it's kind of like the movie Slapshot, sure the owner could sell the Chiefs, but her accountant said she'd be better off folding the team and taking a tax-loss

You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?!

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TheOneTrueBill (July 13, 2009)

You're just a bowl of cereal to him.

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eazyd2 (July 13, 2009)

mate dont cry, heres a link if your other copy ever gets scratched

http://www.amazon.com/OK-Computer-Radiohead/dp/B0000 02UJQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1247501138&sr=8-2

You are the biggest dipshit on this site

now quick make a comment about NZ to get at me

Then what happens?

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ZombieCrush (July 13, 2009)

The few of us that still want physical copies of music will be forced to go to the Targets and Walmarts of the world. "They" will be able to grab the last few remaining free people in the United States and make us mindless purchasing machines.

It's sorta like that Invasion of the Body Snatchers movies, except this time when Donald Sutherland points and screams, Escape the Fate comes blaring out.

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eazyd2 (July 13, 2009)

go to interpunk or amazon you fuckin cry baby

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ZombieCrush (July 13, 2009)

Those options are fine, turd.

I just am hating it that Lou's Records in Encinitas was like a Mecca for awesome music. They had everything from Oi! to African Tribal Music (sorted by country). Now, there is nothing in there.

I like to aimlessly paruse the isles and pick up stuff I wasn't even thinking about. Not as much fun online....Plus, my mind wanders inevitably to boobs when doing anything online and I end up at tube8dotcom or some other smut site before too long.

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ilovelamp (July 13, 2009)

My god, I fucking love Lou's. It is a guaranteed stop every time I visit my cousins in San Diego. Is it really shitty now? Tell me its not true!

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ZombieCrush (July 13, 2009)

It's still there but it is sooo much different. The selection has gone way down. The people that work there remind me of goldfish in a bowl with a leak. Just swiming around watching their ceiling coming closer and closer.

It's been a few months since my last visit. Maybe with this economy the used section is going well.

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MPC (July 13, 2009)

Mailorder?

Agreed with the mind drifting to boobies. I can barely have an online sesh without finding my way to some sleaze.

You must not have any good local record stores around. In Nashville, Grimey's Records is the must successful record store in the city while Tower Records went out of business and FYE rots from the inside out.

nah i think theyre talking bout cd's n shit. some are irreplaceable

What are you talking about?

I know you're joking, but I've actually seen kiosks in large record stores in the past that allow you to hook up your iPod and purchase mp3s. No joke. This was probably four or five years ago, and I don't know if anyone's still doing it.

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LookingForCorpses (July 13, 2009)

More places are than every. Walmart will soon.

And this will drive up the customer cost, or cut the stores profit margin.

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LookingForCorpses (July 13, 2009)

Totally. You're looking at getting titles from mom and pops upwards of 15 bucks most likely.

It is a big deal. EMI sells it to the local indie store for $9-$10, the store can now put it out for $12-$13 and still make money. The same titles at one stops cost about $11-$12, so now YOU THE CONSUMER has to pay $14-$15.
What this means is you will most likely try to buy the same title at Best Buy or Amazon in order to save a few dollars. So this turns into lost sales for indies, meaning when you go back there for the new Gaslight Anthem or Descendents box set they've already closed up shop and you are now screwed because shopping at an independent record store is what it's all about. They need every single sale they can get, and this is just the beginning as the other majors start fucking them in the ass some more and killing off the mom and pop record store for good.

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AmericanRiot (July 13, 2009)

what is this "Descendents box set" you speak of. either way SST Records titles are always expensive as shit.

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anticoast (July 13, 2009)
I don't know. If you support indies in the first place, your main interest would be going to that store versus big boxers no matter the cost to you. When it comes to a dollar here, a dollar there, most people that want to buy from an independent dealer will do so regardless of the price. The people that are really fucking this up are indiscriminate buyers who shop for music on a whim and buy something when they see it at said big box store rather than supporting their local shop. When I worked in a record store, we ordered from one-stops all the time. Our CD's were still cheaper or the same price as anywhere else. Plus, you can order from multiple labels at once using a one stop, so shipping costs are less per purchase and the hours put into buying are lessened because you don't have to shop from multiple sources. The small business would save on those costs

show rest of commentI don't know. If you support indies in the first place, your main interest would be going to that store versus big boxers no matter the cost to you. When it comes to a dollar here, a dollar there, most people that want to buy from an independent dealer will do so regardless of the price. The people that are really fucking this up are indiscriminate buyers who shop for music on a whim and buy something when they see it at said big box store rather than supporting their local shop. When I worked in a record store, we ordered from one-stops all the time. Our CD's were still cheaper or the same price as anywhere else. Plus, you can order from multiple labels at once using a one stop, so shipping costs are less per purchase and the hours put into buying are lessened because you don't have to shop from multiple sources. The small business would save on those costs even if they have to cut their profit margin on product.
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LookingForCorpses (July 13, 2009)

Yeah, that's not really accurate, esp if a distributor handles multiple labels a store orders from.
And, saving $4 bucks on a CD while the economy sucks and sales overall are plummeting is a big deal. The people you're talking about is probably 1% or less of music consumers. This is real fucking bad news for labels, consumers, indie retailers.

They can cut staff who specialize in mom and pops, and shipping and account management to those accounts.

this is just proof that the dinosaur record labels have absolutely no idea how to adapt to the 21st century music industry.

Lucero?

Fugazi

Limp Bizkit?
-Dante

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eazyd2 (July 13, 2009)

and nickelback too ahahahhahahahaha

Ramones.

Lucero, Against Me

Currently or ever? Because that's a broad statement.
-Dante

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ffwoodycooks (July 13, 2009)

currently

Deftones
The Clash
The Ramones
Mastodon
Against Me!

Wilco(new album is great)
Ryan Adams(and the cardinals)
The old 97's

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eazyd2 (July 13, 2009)

they are all horrible. especially fuckin wilco.

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TheSandwiches (July 13, 2009)

I agree they are no sublime....there can never be a new sublime.
or a new copy of your warped record.

Spice Girls

Mastodon.

Proved wrong. now go shave your fucking beard and wear a shirt that isnt plaid or against me.

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these_parks_are_lakes (July 13, 2009)

I agree with you, but couldn't you say the same thing about a Mastodon fans sans the AM! shirt?

... maybe I am just thinking about a guy in Mastodon

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I_Rock_Hard (July 13, 2009)

actually mastodon is horrible. they're on a major label yet every release is a commercial flop. shouldn't such an awesome band with millions of dollars of funding behind them at least have some sort of marginal success. not with mastodon. MASTODON BLOWS.


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Tudor (July 13, 2009)

They've only had 2 releases on a major label and crack the skye is the biggest metal release this year. So exactly what the hell are you talking about? Oh you don't know what you're talking about, that's good, piss off now.

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I_Rock_Hard (July 13, 2009)

you say that as killswitch engage's new album is currently #7 on the billboard top 200. is crack the skye even in the top 100? no. where did crack the skye debut? number 11, selling 45,000 units. and it has sold 125,000 units to date. the new killswitch album? 58,000 albums in the first week.

biggest metal release this year? you lose. worst metal release year? potentially.

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Tudor (July 13, 2009)

Mastondon entered the billboard top 200 at number 11 actually, and to almost universal praise by reviewers, you cannot say the same for Killswitch engaged, if they were ACTUALLY considered metal at all.

Does the volume of albums sold represent the talent of the band? If it does then maybe you should find a different genres of music to listen to.

Mastodon is 10 folds more talented then anything you listen to guarenteed (Terror? are you for real?).

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14theroad (July 13, 2009)

He got you on the Terror.

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I_Rock_Hard (July 13, 2009)

killswitch not considered metal? killswitch was nominated for a GRAMMY FOR BEST METAL PERFORMANCE. you're the only one who doesn't consider killswitch metal, buddy. unfortunately you're outvoted by people who's opinions matter much more than you. if i remember correctly, mastodon was nominated as well. but that's irrelevant to this argument.

you said mastodon's shitty album was the biggest metal release of the year. i proved you wrong. the end.

and no, i'm not for real with terror. lolz.



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Tudor (July 13, 2009)

You're a fucking idiot beyond words can express.

You know nothing.

That is all.

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I_Rock_Hard (July 14, 2009)

Your first sentence made no grammatical sense.

...Idiot.

The Roots.

your statement confuses me

he is not part of EMI, he is a journalist.
sounds like he was being snide

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655321 (July 13, 2009)

oh - I get it now

wreeden komprahinshin iz gud

I totally thought that was in german when I first saw it.

you are just as retarded as the 66513 guy

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mill83 (July 13, 2009)

How boring is your life? I ask because I'm certain all you do is jump from story to story on the org all day long and just shit-talk random people like a douchebag for no reason.

Not from Walmart. From one stops, which aren't retail, but will jack prices.

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Dante3000 (rich) (July 13, 2009)

Ah, I figured (because he mentioned those stores) he was referring to them as one stops (as everyone calls Wal-mart). So, now I understand less than before.
-Dante

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AmericanRiot (July 13, 2009)

re-read it, he is saying that certain titles in a band's catalog are not going to be accessable because they don't sell entire catalogs from bands at big box stores such as walmart or best buy and it is only mom and pop shops who will have even the shitty albums available. not to say all less popular albums from all bands are shitty. kind of like if you do find stiff little fingers in best buy you may see inflamable material and nobody's heroes, and maybe even go for it, but now then... will never make it to shelf.

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LookingForCorpses (July 13, 2009)

One stops are for lack of a better description distributor middle men. Some smaller distros also serve as one stops. It's basically a place that buys a bunch of titles from mulitple distributors, and sell to retail.

if you are talking about EMI, they are actually a British company, so i don't really understand the "classic American big business" part. big business has gotten so big, it's become worldwide, go figure!

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HeyBarmold (July 13, 2009)

Owned,

Really? British? Who woulda thought.

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LookingForCorpses (July 13, 2009)

Terrible company, anyway.

you're cool?

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fox82 (July 13, 2009)

Probably not. I still live with parents and don't know how to drive a car at the age of 27.

I was surprised the sandwich thing wasn't mentioned earlier on.

I did however pick up 'Nerve Damage' last night at a squat party.

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I_Rock_Hard (July 13, 2009)

nope, not cool. FAGGOT.

You, as many people, are drastically overestimating how much vinyl is selling. It's still a very small percentage.

That makes sense.

You can add the fucking Clash to that list too. Most overrated band in punk EVER.

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ZombieCrush (July 13, 2009)

Agreed.

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mill83 (July 13, 2009)

Alright, break it up you two. Tradition states that you pay respect to the elders who brought you here (kinda).

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Hey_Asshole (July 13, 2009)

well, for me personally, that would be Ramones and Dead Kennedys.

Sex pistols not at all, and i only think The Clash have one good album (the first one). nothing against them, but their other records just feel too bloated with poorly adapted influence. i hold that Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros was way fucking better than The Clash, because he fit all the "world music" (i hate that term) influence into something cohesive rather than random (insert genre here) songs all thrown together into an hour long clusterfuck of whatever.

just sayin'

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jacknife737 (July 13, 2009)

No.

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PoliticsOfStarving (July 13, 2009)

Fuck off. If you listen to a Clash record and don't instantly love it, then you're not human. At least, not by my standards.