That and it sucks.

I agree that the perception of who the victims are has a ton to do with the West's sympathies and priorities, but non-Muslim Palestinians are suffering in Gaza and the West Bank as well. Palestinian Christians are an integral part of Hamas.

That's when I get pulled into the sky in a chariot of chocolate pulled by unicorns.

haha

HA!

This is very well-put. I'd just like to expand on it by saying that artists played a huge role in pressuring the National Party-dominated South African government to negotiate with the ANC and finally concede to a one-person-one-vote election. Artistic boycotts are not the most effective from a purely monetary perspective, but they bring attention to larger boycott movements to music fans who otherwise might not have known about the BDS (Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions) movement.

ya
that's because hamas has only been in power a few years
the PLO had been killing israelis for decades

i'm not saying that israel is entirely right, but if someone kept coming to your backyard, ignoring the international laws of war and used their children to try and blow up yours, instead of upholding an accord that would let them govern themselves, you'd be pissed too.
furthermore, 'palestinians' have their 'bases' set up that these laws protect, such as schools and temples, making it even more difficult for israel to defend itself.

here is some more reading material
educate yourself before you run your run mouth

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/israel.asp
and

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/isrplo.asp

anyway
no ne of this is even the point. boycotting a country (or state, in the case of az) is not productive at all
it just makes innocent citizens suffer even further at the hands of tyrannical gov't
there is lots of global awareness about these and many other conflicting situations, and it really comes down to it's citizens rising up against the wrong doers and really isn't the business of outsiders
theoretically speaking of course

By that logic, you've got a lot of boycotts to champion, and I'm willing to bet your own country. Good luck with that.

Conflicts since 1950 with over 10,000 Fatalities*

1 40,000,000 Red China, 1949-76 (outright killing, manmade famine, Gulag)
2 10,000,000 Soviet Bloc: late Stalinism, 1950-53; post-Stalinism, to 1987 (mostly Gulag)
3 4,000,000 Ethiopia, 1962-92: Communists, artificial hunger, genocides
4 3,800,000 Zaire (Congo-Kinshasa): 1967-68; 1977-78; 1992-95; 1998-present
5 2,800,000 Korean war, 1950-53
6 1,900,000 Sudan, 1955-72; 1983-2006 (civil wars, genocides)
7 1,870,000 Cambodia: Khmer Rouge 1975-79; civil war 1978-91
8 1,800,000 Vietnam War, 1954-75
9 1,800,000 Afghanistan: Soviet and internecine killings, Taliban 1980-2001
10 1,250,000 West Pakistan massacres in East Pakistan (Bangladesh 1971)
11 1,100,000 Nigeria, 1966-79 (Biafra); 1993-present
12 1,100,000 Mozambique, 1964-70 (30,000) + after retreat of Portugal 1976-92
13 1,000,000 Iran-Iraq-War, 1980-88
14 900,000 Rwanda genocide, 1994
15 875,000 Algeria: against France 1954-62 (675,000); between Islamists and the government 1991-2006 (200,000)
16 850,000 Uganda, 1971-79; 1981-85; 1994-present
17 650,000 Indonesia: Marxists 1965-66 (450,000); East Timor, Papua, Aceh etc, 1969-present (200,000)
18 580,000 Angola: war against Portugal 1961-72 (80,000); after Portugal's retreat (1972-2002)
19 500,000 Brazil against its Indians, up to 1999
20 430,000 Vietnam, after the war ended in 1975 (own people; boat refugees)
21 400,000 Indochina: against France, 1945-54
22 400,000 Burundi, 1959-present (Tutsi/Hutu)
23 400,000 Somalia, 1991-present
24 400,000 North Korea up to 2006 (own people)
25 300,000 Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Turkey, 1980s-1990s
26 300,000 Iraq, 1970-2003 (Saddam against minorities)
27 240,000 Colombia, 1946-58; 1964-present
28 200,000 Yugoslavia, Tito regime, 1944-80
29 200,000 Guatemala, 1960-96
30 190,000 Laos, 1975-90
31 175,000 Serbia against Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kosovo, 1991-1999
32 150,000 Romania, 1949-99 (own people)
33 150,000 Liberia, 1989-97
34 140,000 Russia against Chechnya, 1994-present
35 150,000 Lebanon civil war, 1975-90
36 140,000 Kuwait War, 1990-91
37 130,000 Philippines: 1946-54 (10,000); 1972-present (120,000)
38 130,000 Burma/Myanmar, 1948-present
39 100,000 North Yemen, 1962-70
40 100,000 Sierra Leone, 1991-present
41 100,000 Albania, 1945-91 (own people)
42 80,000 Iran, 1978-79 (revolution)
43 75,000 Iraq, 2003-present (domestic)
44 75,000 El Salvador, 1975-92
45 70,000 Eritrea against Ethiopia, 1998-2000
46 68,000 Sri Lanka, 1997-present
47 60,000 Zimbabwe, 1966-79; 1980-present
48 60,000 Nicaragua, 1972-91 (Marxists/natives etc,)
49 51,000 Arab-Israeli conflict 1950-present
50 50,000 North Vietnam, 1954-75 (own people)
51 50,000 Tajikistan, 1992-96 (secularists against Islamists)
52 50,000 Equatorial Guinea, 1969-79
53 50,000 Peru, 1980-2000
54 50,000 Guinea, 1958-84
55 40,000 Chad, 1982-90
56 30,000 Bulgaria, 1948-89 (own people)
57 30,000 Rhodesia, 1972-79
58 30,000 Argentina, 1976-83 (own people)
59 27,000 Hungary, 1948-89 (own people)
60 26,000 Kashmir independence, 1989-present
61 25,000 Jordan government vs. Palestinians, 1970-71 (Black September)
62 22,000 Poland, 1948-89 (own people)
63 20,000 Syria, 1982 (against Islamists in Hama)
64 20,000 Chinese-Vietnamese war, 1979
65 19,000 Morocco: war against France, 1953-56 (3,000) and in Western Sahara, 1975-present (16,000)
66 18,000 Congo Republic, 1997-99
67 10,000 South Yemen, 1986 (civil war)

*All figures rounded. Sources: Brzezinski, Z., Out of Control: Global Turmoil on the Eve of the Twenty-first Century, 1993; Courtois, S., Le Livre Noir du Communism, 1997; Heinsohn, G., Lexikon der Völkermorde, 1999, 2nd ed.; Heinsohn, G., Söhne und Weltmacht, 2006, 8th ed.; Rummel. R., Death

It's an out of date list but it makes the point. Palestinian fatalities since 2000 are around 6,000. Deaths in Iraq are around 100,000. I guess you'll be moving soon? Or boycotting a shitload of bands, at least?

It seems like hes repeating the obvious talking points to me...

The famed political philosopher that is Frank Turner asserts:

1. Attempts to connect issues and recognize intersectionality are tantamount to "hijacking" a cause.

2. People who oppose both the war in Iraq and Israeli oppression are anti-Semites

Give me a break.

again, the reason so many palestinian children have been killed, is because that's who the suicide bombers are.
the children of palestine. children aren't just 5 yr olds. they're the 16 and 17 yrs olds that strap bombs to their chests and blow themselves up on buses and in markets

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YIq5Q15L1o

She looks like she knows what she's talking about. Do I need any more proof?

...also Israel being surrounded by countries that would like Israel to not exist. So, I guess that factors into things too.

I take issue with you claiming that the flotilla activists attacked soldiers who weren't firing. Both activists and international journalists who were there claim that Israel fired stun grenades and rubber bullets from helicopters prior to trying to board the sixth ship, which was the one on which the activists used the iron bars. Given that one slain activist aboard the ship had a bullet wound on the top of his skull, there seems to be merit to the claims that the Israelis attacked with lethal force prior to boarding the ship.

Furthermore, even if the Israelis weren't firing, boarding a ship with Turkish flags in international waters is an act of war, and is illegal under international law.

Lastly, the video of the Palestinian "attack" as provided by the Israeli media and government lacks any context. What happened before or afterward? If the Israelis didn't attack with force, either with lethal or less-than-lethal arms, then why would they be afraid to show the rest of the tape that shows what happened before the Palestinians responded with iron bars? Really, if you can't see that this is an obvious example of propaganda and prestidigitation, you're a moron.

i second that. loving an intelligent concept being put forth on the 'org -- is this a new day?