Riot breaks out at free Trash Talk show in LA

Contributed by alex101. Posted by aubin on Friday, August 3, 2012 at 6:00 PM (EDT)

A riot broke out at Trash Talk's free Los Angeles, California date this past Wednesday night. The fights began when fans were turned away by security due to the venue hitting capacity, and police arrived and began pepper-spraying the crowd. While the band hasn't addressed the fight, they are asking people to remove videos and photos of the incident saying:

We'd really appreciate it if you kept photos/videos from last night off of the web. We don't need any issues..

Other fans commented on their "experience" with security, including saying:

Got fucken pepper sprayed for jumping over the fence to attempt to see Trash Talk. Fuck that security guard.

Kids getting tazed and maced outside the show. Wilding. Very punk to me

Trash Talk was fucking insane. Riot control and shit. If you weren't there you fucked up.

Some instagram shots are here and here.

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Dante3000 (rich) (August 3, 2012)

Yeah son, we got pepper sprayed in the face! How could you afford to miss that!

misterspike (August 3, 2012)

"We're gonna totally be on youtube and instagram!"

eggainst (August 3, 2012)

R.I.P Rodney King

bumS_lie (August 3, 2012)

Who's got the videos. POST EM UP

skibz777 (August 3, 2012)

"Dude, I was just illegally jumping over a fence to get into a venue so I could put peoples lives at risk by exceeding the max capacity! Can't believe that fucken cop pepper sprayed me."

Honestly, if I was a cop (or if I become one if this optician gig doesn't work out), I'd mace him on the basis of spelling "fucken" alone.

skibz777 (August 3, 2012)

...or I could be both: I mace the kids, their eyesight is fucked up and then I get them glasses. I can start saving up for a Jetta!

Ravnos (August 3, 2012)

Never stop reaching for the stars.

MN_DrNick (August 3, 2012)

I don't understand why people can never accept it when a venue is at capacity that there's a need to break in.

skibz777 (August 3, 2012)

Punks aren't really the most intelligent of subcultures. I can honestly say this kind of stuff doesn't happen at the sold out free jazz shows I go to.

waffleIron (August 6, 2012)

Says the guy on a punk website....

shred74 (August 8, 2012)

I hear ya, here in Denver, they just start shooting and shit at free jazz concerts. Not sure if they are all sold out though, maybe thats the difference. I'll look into it yo.

skibz777 (August 3, 2012)

Also, they're punks. The law (and common sense) doesn't apply to you when you have more jacket studs than brain cells.

franchise (August 3, 2012)

Fucken hardcore kids fucken have too much fucken testosterone and shit fuck.

nickvicious (August 3, 2012)

u dont know! you wiz not their!

misinterpreter (August 3, 2012)

I love Trash Talk's records, but the stuff I've heard about their live shows makes me not really want to see them.

cheesetits (August 3, 2012)

If you weren't there you fucked up

Tudor (August 3, 2012)

Generic comment about how kids these days are dumb and don't respect rules and such..

ReelBigMike (August 3, 2012)

I'm amazed at the amount of common sense shown in these comments so far.

If you're gonna break the law, you run the risk of getting pepper sprayed. You also run the risk of me laughing at your expense since you clearly deserved a good mace shot to the eyeballs.

Tudor (August 3, 2012)

Generic comment about how if you don't follow the rules you deserve the full brunt of bodily harm that police/security can inflict..and such

ReelBigMike (August 3, 2012)

Since when is pepper-spray "the full brunt of bodily harm that police/security can inflict?" They could just beat the shit out of them.

Tudor (August 3, 2012)

Have you ever been pepper sprayed?! It aint like getting tickled.

Tudor (August 3, 2012)

As a matter of fact, I would RATHER have the shit kicked out of me than be peppered sprayed. It is seriously, one of the most painful and horrible things you can physically inflict on someone.

skibz777 (August 3, 2012)

I've been pepper sprayed. It totally sucks, but the pain subsides after a while and doesn't leave nearly the damage of physical assault. I'd rather be maced again than beaten bloody and bruised.

Tudor (August 3, 2012)

Yes well, I don't think either of these things should happen to kids, no matter how dumb you perceive them to be.

hashbrowns (August 3, 2012)

kids? I'm 100% sure that it wasn't a dozen 8 year olds jumping that fence.

Tudor (August 3, 2012)

Yeah...I meant 8 year olds. I meant teenagers, young adults, whatever the fuck you want to call them.

hashbrowns (August 3, 2012)

ones who can easily weigh over 140 lbs, are muscularly developed etc. yea.

Tudor (August 3, 2012)

I didn't realize that 140LBS was the acceptable weight from which it's ok to beat or mace someone.

Cormstorm (August 3, 2012)

That's pretty common knowledge dude

skibz777 (August 3, 2012)

It should happen if it's justified. We don't know the whole story, but if I was a cop and saw someone jump a fence despite a warning not to, on the brink of a full riot, I wouldn't take any chances.

Tudor (August 3, 2012)

You didn't wait for the whole story before condemning them as a bunch of moron punks. I mean considering you want to give the cops the benefit of the doubt here..

bastard_squad (August 3, 2012)

I used to jump fences to skate in closed school grounds. I was wrong in doing that and knew it was trespassing. There was no benefit of the doubt. I was just a shitty kid.

Tudor (August 3, 2012)

Well reading the eyewitness accounts, it does seems like they had a good time, despite the macing and beatings. So maybe it was a little added spicey icing to the cake.

skibz777 (August 3, 2012)

To be fair, I always condemn punks as morons, but trespassing is trespassing.

Tudor (August 3, 2012)

Haha, fair enough I guess.

RaganYouth (August 3, 2012)

In my experience, if you mind your own business and behave like an adult, the cops will leave you alone most of the time.
I know it makes me a bad liberal to say that.

ReelBigMike (August 3, 2012)

^ Truth. For as much shit as cops get because, like any other profession, a small minority are assholes, they will generally only mess with you if you broke a law or you did something else to deserve it (like hop a fence to get access to a place you were already denied access to).

givemeamuseumandillfillit (August 4, 2012)

Dumb People are prone to Dumb Actions, right? Soo....

bastard_squad (August 3, 2012)

It's not that bad.

Skibz777 (August 4, 2012)

Have you been pepper-sprayed? I would love to know the story behind that. I could easily see airport security taking you down like a sack of potatoes after you try stealing corndogs from a Starbucks or something.

givemeamuseumandillfillit (August 4, 2012)

I've been. I had a period in my early 20's when I always assumed that authorities would know that I wasn't the one doing something wrong if I just acted calm and natural while trying to talk to them.

If they believe that the situation is worse than it actually is - it's the absolute worst thing you could ever do. They'll think you're "the leader".

I got sprayed, tazed and arrested due to them believing that I was a part of an extreme leftist attack group. I was simply trying to catch a train and therefore had a spring in my step, making them think that I was a main person, carrying all the gear. Wrong place at the wrong time.

It's pretty bad, but I have to assume that there are different degrees of pepper spray since it definitely did not have the same effect on me as I've seen it have on others. It's quite a distraction, though, so it is definitely effective for crowd control if you need to take down a select few individuals.

Skibz777 (August 4, 2012)

....wow. Huh, I was merely pepper-sprayed because I wouldn't stop banging my head against the partition in the back of a police car. I, uh...I thought the officer was bluffing, but I guess he wasn't. I was 18. Good times?

I need to come up with a better story. I'd want to say something like I was at an Occupy joint, but since I have a job and don't have dreadlocks, people probably won't believe me. In 2007, I shouted at Leonard Maltin on the streets of LA, so I'm just going to tell people that he did it to me.

givemeamuseumandillfillit (August 4, 2012)

Hahaha, that sounds interesting. I'd like to meet this 18-year old Skibz person.

I've also been maced twice from being a suspected rapist. Brilliant, eh? It wasn't even a bluff thing where I got robbed or attacked. Both of them happened in New York during the same week in broad daylight. I never, ever talk about it because I come off even more badly than I do on here when I do it! There's something about it that just makes you want to go the "don't flatter yourself, honey"-route about it, because it is mainly what it chalks up to. A man who happens to walk behind you is not automatically a threat.

Skibz777 (August 4, 2012)

Well, you should at least take just a *bit* of flattery from that. It's better than being like the Skibz, a scrawny, lispy, effeminate scarecrow boy who couldn't threaten a woman if his life or his collection of novelty dragon paintings depended on it. :/

givemeamuseumandillfillit (August 4, 2012)

Add being 6'5 and hormonal disorders that makes me discharge large quantities of pheromones and that's me.

Yeah, growing up was weird, dudes didn't know if they wanted fight you or fuck you... That's my stand-up line.

bastard_squad (August 4, 2012)

Your version is better. Just go with that.

Skibz777 (August 4, 2012)

You can't just attempt to brush off the subject with a pseudo-macho "It isn't that bad" and then clam up on the details. Spill the beans, Birkenstock Boy. You're constantly wading knee-deep in braggadocio, let's see if your tall truths are as beefy as your tall tales.

ozmanx (August 3, 2012)

That totally punx rawk, brah

damnitsderek (August 3, 2012)

Well, their fans sound just as stupid as I would expect them to be.

NotPatriotic (August 3, 2012)

Good shit.

Going to shows where absolute insanity broke out is what makes punk so awesome. Glad to see the kids these days are still experiencing wild punk rock times.

If you don't remember how much fun you had during shows like this you're remembering it wrong. The energy sometimes just got (gets) a little too wild.

xherojuanax (August 3, 2012)

As much as I think that the use of pepper spray is inexcusable in probably all instances in which the target isn't carrying a weapon, I just can't feel any sympathy for those kids.

Also, fans buy tickets.

lookingforcorpses (August 4, 2012)

Were no tickets. It was a free, promo event.

thepasswordistaco (August 4, 2012)

Man this never happens at ninja gun shows

happynolucky (August 4, 2012)

i definitely prefer Ninja Gun shows

atomicgarden89 (August 4, 2012)

Yeah. I think this band is alright, and I've enjoyed watching a few of their set's over the years, but their fans are fucking stupid. I mean... Most hardcore kids are fucking stupid, but Trash Talk fans are the fucking cream of the idiot crop.

givemeamuseumandillfillit (August 4, 2012)

No, fuck you for jumping the fence.

Fucking idiots. I hope they just fully ruin it so we can start from square #1 again when the internet has been restricted. No sarcasm what so ever. It'd be the best thing, in my eyes.

givemeamuseumandillfillit (August 4, 2012)

Also, I gotta say that I enjoy this situation.

They're on a major label now, so it's fucking awesome to see them go "please don't show anyone! please! we don't need a lawsuit".

This will hopefully continue and hopefully lead to some hilariously stupid drama.

kidecono (andrew) (August 4, 2012)

Astonished that private security guards are able to pepper spray kids. They should be banged up.

givemeamuseumandillfillit (August 4, 2012)

Really? You are? Why?

Do you know how big of a deal it is when people start finding alternative ways to enter a place when it's at max capacity? Maybe it's just the fact that I've got experience in the field, but even 99% of bands will support this, because they know the consequences, hence the message from the band.

kidecono (andrew) (August 4, 2012)

I don't like the idea of private companies being allowed to legally attack citizens. At least the police are nominally answerable to the public.

givemeamuseumandillfillit (August 4, 2012)

You don't like shows then, do you? Because you seem to have no idea how little it'd take for states or entire countries to enforce a policy that would make 95% of shows not happen.

Bottomline: Behave yourselves, idiots. Be thankful that shows even happen.

kidecono (andrew) (August 5, 2012)

Right, because overzealous security and banning most live music are our only two options, as a species.

Skibz777 (August 5, 2012)

Things are different in America.

givemeamuseumandillfillit (August 5, 2012)

...That's kind of the point, dude who thinks 8 words on a napkins constitutes an "essay".

The third option is to not be a fucking careless idiot and instead realize that there are consequences to your actions. A sub-genre is not a safe haven.

lookingforcorpses (August 4, 2012)

They're being hired to defend either private property or specific people. I have no issue with it, whatsoever.

ReelBigMike (August 4, 2012)

What do you want them to do when things get out of control? Get all of the punks together in a circle and try to talk it out?

morbo_09 (August 4, 2012)

I had 5 ribs broken by a private security guard a few years back - A pepper spraying would of been much nicer!

endnote (August 4, 2012)

Found some video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j9j9XdYhr8

bigposer (August 4, 2012)

Actually, this is fucking bullshit. The cop sprayed several guys (who aren't using any violent force) from a distance as if hes getting rid of a bunch of roaches. The act seems more motivated by irritation rather than necessity. Fuck the cops. ANARCHY.

ReelBigMike (August 4, 2012)

Tasers and pepper spray are perfectly reasonable forms of crowd control. It's not like a gun where you need to feel as if your life is being threatened to use one. If a cop tells you to move away from a private place of business, and you actively choose to do the exact opposite, you've given up any right to bitch when you get shocked of sprayed with mace.

Tudor (August 4, 2012)

Police apologists are the reason why cops act like animals and get away with it

skibz777 (August 4, 2012)

Yo, dawg, don't blame the police force. They're just doing their jobs...and doing it effectively. >:]

flydebs (August 4, 2012)

"Let's test the police by doing what they tell us not to do, get mad when they stop us, and give everyone who likes punk music a bad name."

Good idea

ReelBigMike (August 4, 2012)

holy_balls (August 4, 2012)

i fucking hate instagram.

ireviewmusic (August 4, 2012)

The pepper spraying was dumb, given that very little had been done to provoke it (see video someone linked to down below). But it did seem to have its intended effect. People went from screaming at them and crowding the door to relatively docile and moved into a less confrontational area.

As for the "riot" -- is this what passes for trouble nowadays? The kids mill around. You can see multiple 17 year old girls checking their makeup and hair out of boredom. Two folding tables get thrown into the street and some guy does a skate trick over one of them (which people cheer for). The security guard who did the pepper spraying looks totally bored and even has a conversation with one of the skaters. A couple people hop the fence and tell security inside the show to fuck themselves.

This is a non-event.

morbo_09 (August 4, 2012)

You guys are really using the word riot very loosely here.

This is how you riot http://youtu.be/AjK-2xJLoT4

AlphaKennyBuddy (August 5, 2012)

Everytime I read a story like this, I consider myself blessed that I dont live in America.

Over here in Eatsern Europe, at least in Croatia, most punk shows either dont have security at all or are secured by the bartenders and backstage guys. Yet Ive never had a problem or got into a fight.

test (August 5, 2012)

understand: we're fighting a war we cant win. they hate us. we hate them. we can't win.

porksoda (August 6, 2012)

Who the hell is Trash Talk and how do they have enough fans to fill a venue to capacity and incite a 'riot'?

overdefined (August 7, 2012)

This will help their image as being "crazy" and "out of control" so all of the Pitchfork snobs can have their one hardcore band they like.