Viva Death - Viva Death (Cover Artwork)

Viva Death

Viva Death: Viva DeathViva Death (2002)
Vagrant Records

Reviewer Rating: 5
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Contributed by: needtobefreeneedtobefree
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After reading Scott's review of this album, I thought it was totally relevant to submit another review as he's obviously biased against Trever Keith and Scott Shiflett. I'm looking at this record objectively, as friend recommended it to me, saying it was "weird and kinda spooky". Following that .
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After reading Scott's review of this album, I thought it was totally relevant to submit another review as he's obviously biased against Trever Keith and Scott Shiflett. I'm looking at this record objectively, as friend recommended it to me, saying it was "weird and kinda spooky".

Following that description, I figured I'd read up on the band a little before buying the CD. I had heard that face to face had a side project going, but I never quite expected this.

As an on again off again listener of face to face, I was acquainted with their sound and this sounds nothing like face to face. I must say it was a welcome blast of fresh sounds from a punk scene that has become almost irrelevant.

The record starts off with "Fundamentalist" which introduces you immediately to the type of sound the band has. The baritone guitars growl throughout as Trever Keith's voice belts out lyrics in a hardened bark. This song sets the stage for a musical assault to the senses.

"The Start Up" does not only have Keith singing, it also has Shiflett singing as the baritone's fly through some surf sounds.

The record slows down and speeds up and different intervals, keeping you intrigued with songs like "Rigor Mortis Shake" - a jaunt into camp with Evil Wilhelm and the Bauhaus-like "Crosses".

In the listing of the band credits, Chad Blinman (recording engineer on the last 4 face to face records as well as a slew of other albums), is listed as "other". Well, his contribution is well noted as there are plenty of ambient sounds and vocal recordings that wouldn't normally shine through on his previous work. Its pretty obvious to me these guys are experimenting with recording techniques and it held my grasp for the entire record.

For my ears this was an escape from the racket on the radio and the typical current "punk rock" stylings of so many bands. Be your own judge.


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Anonymous (October 4, 2002)

Go to Scott's webpage and tell me if you think he looks like Michael Moore in that picture...

Anonymous (October 4, 2002)

Dude, Scott owns. He's down with more types of music than punk. He doesn't have to like what everybody else likes. At least he's pretty much never wrong and mostly always gramatically correct. He backs up his shit. This other dude/girl/lesbian/dumbass/whatever, just shut up.

Anonymous (October 4, 2002)

i am not taking sides in this arguement, but that description of scott made me ejaculate twice.


maverick (October 3, 2002)

I like how you make fun of me because I'm fat, yet I've admitted that I'm fat on numerous occasions.

It's really quite the pointless insult.

And I bet my sucky band is better than your band, since it doesn't seem like you have one. So nyah.

This album still blows.


Anonymous (October 3, 2002)

jocko doesnt work it sounds like your trying to call him michael jackson, jacko, its just not working for me.

abileneINlove (October 2, 2002)

I think Jocko actually fits better than Maverick. Perhaps a handle change is in order?

Seriously Scott, your band does kind of tank. No offense Jocko. At least the Mp3's don't do you justice.

I can just picture Jocko's face turning red to purple as he furiously types his numerically organized posts, excess saliva gurgling in his trunk-esque throat, taking time out to listen to the new PROMISE RING thinking its cool, letting his sausage fingers slide over his manbreasts, caressing the stretch-marked love handles.

Stimulating visual, eh?

maverick (October 2, 2002)

Damn, all this support in my favor scared this little girl off. Come on back and throw more contrived insults at me, you were so good at it!

Rats, with her gone, I guess I have no other choice but to do homework. Bah.


Anonymous (September 30, 2002)

you know, i don't like to take sides, but scott's the only one here who's being intelligent and witty,oh....
to anonymous mr. superior, if scott found that information of a site of ht webster that YOU worked on, don't you think you're just a little bit stupid for spelling "milquetoast" wrong? (i don't want to butt in where i dont belong, but that contradiction was SO blaring i had to point it out.)
scott-you should listen to ignorance is bliss, its great, everything after that was downhill for face to face.
oh yeah-boxcar1, jason swearingen, boxcar001101(aim)

Anonymous (September 30, 2002)

someone give the man a taco

Anonymous (September 30, 2002)

Again this CD has promise but fails to expectations. I agree with Scott but I still like this than the new Face To Face album but only by a little bit. Finally, what is with the sandwich? I rather have a taco. Later.


Anonymous (September 29, 2002)

Hey Scott, Use your admin powers find and find where that ass lives and give them a purple mushroom stamp, or I'll do it, i distribute them at a fair and resonable price. That'll shut em up.

Anonymous (September 29, 2002)

What is everyone's problem with Scott? I really don't agree with most of his musical opinions, but they're just as valid as everyone else's, and usually more intelligently worded. His "This sucks" statements often go against the popular opinion, but they're no less welcome than saying "This rocks." At least he's being mature and not personally attacking anyone who isn't attacking him.

And come on, fat jokes aren't even funny.

Anonymous (September 29, 2002)

i agree with waste elite. Jocko indeed.

waste_elite (September 29, 2002)

you guys are pretty amusing

Anonymous (September 29, 2002)

Ignorance Is Bliss is one of Face To Face's best albums

maverick (September 29, 2002)

And we begin again...
1. The name's not jocko, it's Scott. S. C. O. T. T. It's starting to become a frequent occurance on your part to misspell this, you might want to get your shit together before your midterms pull around.
2. You say I'm "disturbed by being wrong" - what am I wrong about? My opinion on the Viva Death CD? I didn't know I had to get my opinions cleared through you, my apologies.
3. Why do I review these records? Because labels send me their CDs expecting a review. I figure bad press is better than no press at all - I mean, look at the whole Viva Death mess. My bad review convinced someone else to write a review praising the band, and it got all sorts of controversy on the boards here. Not a bad idea, eh? Anyway, I review it because it is given to me with that intent. Answer your question?
4. You say I never addressed the content of the record itself - umm, I'm pretty sure I did [as well as talk about the band itself]. I mentioned songs I liked, and why I liked them. I mentioned songs I didn't like, and why I didn't like them. What else do you want?
5. Why am I a meathead? Because I won't roll over and play dead on this? If I'm a meathead, what does that make you?
6. I'm an idiot to presume that you were male? Wow, that's stretching it, since [sadly] the majority of people on this site are males, and you have never given any indication otherwise. Don't blame me for your lack of estrogen, honey.
7. And to turn the tables on you for a second - I'm an idiot for assuming you were a male. Wouldn't that make you an idiot for assuming I'm a jock [which, trust me, I am the farthest thing from]?
8. Nice potshot about my band. Why would it be a joke? You make all these blanket statements and hide behind your scenester anonymity - why not just come out? Enough of this pussyfooting bullshit.


Anonymous (September 29, 2002)

oh jocko.

it's nothing more than sheer amusement for me. you're so easily disturbed by, well, being wrong, it's fucking hilarious.

why exactly do you review these records? you clearly don't like the bands, have absolutely no grasp of how to review AN ALBUM (only to talk about how much you hate the band in general, never addressing the content of the record), and have really shitty taste in music. you like jimmy eat world. nuff said.

honestly. why, meathead?

and to assume that i am a guy...yet another jock move. nice one, brah...awfully presumptious. idiot.

by the way...is that band of yours supposed to be a joke? dear God...

maverick (September 29, 2002)

Aw, it looks like my anonymous flamer pal ran away.

What new release could I pan to bring him back? Any suggestions?


Anonymous (September 28, 2002)

well no wonder your so fat. All that does is ruin all the healthy exercise you've been getting. Unless she goes on top. Lazy bastard.

Anonymous (September 28, 2002)

its like a death match in here...i love it

maverick (September 28, 2002)

I don't know much about him, my grandpa was a fan of his and told me about it over one of his and my lengthy conversations about nothing in particular.


Anonymous (September 28, 2002)

expound on your knowledge of webster's comic strip...i'd love your in depth analysis... or just give me the link to the website you found. it was probably one i worked on...dumbass.

maverick (September 28, 2002)

Again, to the guy 2 posts down:

1. My name isn't Chunk, it's Scott. Honest mistake, it's okay.
2. I never said I didn't understand the word "milquetoast," I said I didn't understand the phrase "bro down, jocko." For the record, HT Webster is a cartoonist [for the New Yorker, or the New York Tribune, or something - I can't recall exactly], and his famous character was Casper Milquetoast. Any other brain busters, boss?
3. Dude, that was an awesome alliteration I just made. Go me.
4. I'd just like to point out to everyone that this guy *still* has made no attempt to contact me by any other means than on this website. Sure, I spend all my time on here, too, but I do it because it's my job; what's your excuse?


PS - I'm listening to the new Calvin Johnson CD, and it's highly bizarro. Nothing like Dub Narcotic.

THAT_GUY (September 28, 2002)

Fried Bologna,mmmm,good.Or,grilled cheese and ham,again,mmm,good.Also,Scott,you're actually giving people your phone number on the internet ? Take that shit off man,you're gonna get constantly tortured.I agree with your stand on Viva Death,gets old fast,but I love Face to Face,but I din't get to see them with Thrice and Midtown,too bad.

Anonymous (September 28, 2002)

chunk -

if you were familiar with ht webster, from who the word Milquetoast is derived, you'd understand the insult. but clearly you're not, so you don't. shocking. as evidenced by your reviews, you don't seem like much of a reader of anything other than your own crappy reviews and the deserved bashings they incur.

maverick (September 28, 2002)

Oh, and the sandwich is usually bologna and cheese - you can't go wrong with that shit.


maverick (September 28, 2002)

Again, the continually anonymous person 2 comments down:
1. I'm perfectly comfortable with my review. The reason I keep posting is the same reason you keep posting: to continue debating. And if I'm "clueless" about my opinions because I keep adding comments, what does that make you for responding to them?
2. For the record, it's "milquetoast," not "milktoast." Just wanted you to have the correct spelling for future usage.
3. If my reviews aren't good, then write your own. I'll happily run them. This is sort of saying "put your money where your mouth is" nicely.
4. What the fuck does "bro down, jocko" mean? I guess I'm not scene enough to know. Maybe all that black hair dye is going to your brain.
5. Do you revel in your anonymity? Are you proud of your cowardice? "Hey everybody, look at me, I'm cool because I can insult someone and they'll never know who I am!" Why are you too afraid to email, IM, or write me? Fuck, you can call me if you want, I'd love to hear how moronic you would sound on a phone. If you want my number, it's in my IM profile.


Anonymous (September 28, 2002)

what kind of sandwich?

Anonymous (September 28, 2002)

look at that pathetic diatribe. see? you have no integrity because you can never let your reviews stand. ever. why?

you always have to post additional opinions once comments are made; we've all read (or scanned) the review, thus we're well aware of your opinions. great we know. neato. yet, you seem compelled to keep adding, like someone who deep down knows how utterly clueless they are. HMM.

stand your ground, milktoast, and let the reviews -as poorly written as they are - speak for themselves. ya ain't good at em anyway, so any subsequent comments usually makes it worse.

its pretty amusing, actually. you're like courtney love - incoherent, constantly grandstanding, and usually dead wrong. except she isn't fat. she used to be though.

and plenty of fatties play sports,and they also listen to 30 degrees of everywhere, so continue to bro down, jocko.

Anonymous (September 28, 2002)

People should buy Suicide Invoice by Hot Snakes instead. Hehe.

Anonymous (September 28, 2002)

does she make you eat it or are you always hungry?

maverick (September 28, 2002)

To the guy 2 comments below:
1. I have no intregity? Please tell me why. I thought I did, but I guess you know me better.
2. You say my opinions aren't based on music, then what are they based on?
3. You say I have biases against bands. Who doesn't? I don't like Face To Face. It is Face To Face's job, essentially, to make me like them. In the grand scheme of things, it's every band's job to make everyone like them - why else would they be a band? If Face to Face [or Viva Death, or anyone else] made an incredible album, I would recognize it. As it stands, both the new Face to Face and Viva Death CDs did absolutely nothing for me. Oh yeah, I've never even *heard* "Ignorance Is Bliss," so there goes your theory.
4. I am not a jock. Again, I am fat. Fat people don't play sports. C'mon, dude, pay attention.
5. Actually, the new Dave Matthews album bores me, it's way too vanilla. It's been all downhill for that band since 1998. Everyone should own the Dave Matthews/Tim Renyolds acoustic live 2xCD - that shit is gold.
6. Anonymous bashing on a site is so punk rock. Why don't you email me [scott@punknews.org] or IM me [toko2000], or write me a letter [Augustana College Box 804, 639 38th Street, Rock Island IL 61201-2296]. I'd love to hear your mindless blabber in different forms.

Oh, and you know why I'm so fat? Because every time I fuck your mom, she makes me a sandwich.

This album is still weak.


Anonymous (September 28, 2002)

Ignorance Is Bliss Is one of Face To Face's best records.

Anonymous (September 28, 2002)

hey Squat -

no one gives a flying turd. period.

honestly, you have no integrity, and certainly know that you are wrong. if your 'opinions' were actually based on the music, then cool, but they're not. that's why you couldn't control yourself and posted as a means of passively admitting you really have no opinions of music, only biases against a band. why? because you were offended by ignorance is bliss? get over it, jocko.

leave good music alone; i think your dave matthews CDs are calling for you.

Anonymous (September 27, 2002)

what do you guys think about straight edge...tee hee

Anonymous (September 27, 2002)

Scott is right, weak. - Jonathan @ Truepunk.com

Anonymous (September 27, 2002)


You had your say...this is someone else's opinion. Let it stand.

maverick (September 27, 2002)

I don't care what you say, this CD is still weak.


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