last guy had it right. except, even when the non major corporations have the cash to put out their adds, they still get veto'd by basically all means of communication. Examples...see www.moveon.org and www.peta.org 's non-offensive super bowl adds that were canned for voiceing an opinion.

Back to the album. Not goldfinger's best work (and by the way...does anyone know why that whenever the word goldfinger is written online, finger comes up as a hyperlink? im baffeled)

Still a good album. But it seems to me, even as i am one of their most loyal fans, that they are trying to turn into a political version of good charlotte (who i cant stand...but thats neither here nor there).

I miss the first album and Hang-ups.
Change is not a bad thing for a band, and i do realize that this is not the same goldfinger from those two albums (charlie and simon have left making way for ben and kelly). But i would love to see another album similar to either hang-ups or goldfinger.

i give a ten based on prior history and their still awesome live preformances.

It may be unfair, but remember...this is my favorite band. So fuck off.

Please tell me that some of you are either 11 years old or just fuckin' trollin' with some of these comments. Go ahead and shoot your grandpa in the back of the head. I'm sure he won't feel pain either.

The difference between plants and animals? Try a central nervous system you fuckin idiots!

Treatment of migrant farm workers? Guess who's working in American meat processing plants: immigrants, most of which can't speak a word of english. Read Fast Food Nation immediately to hear some of the horror stories yourself.

got milk advertising/no tofu ads? That would probably be because these major corporations/industries have an endless supply of cash.

"how is slaughtering living animals different from slaughtering living plants? its all liveing, its just the plants are not cute and they cannot scream. if carrots screamed ill bet you they would not be eaten by vegans"

i've heard the screams of the vegetables, watching their skins being peeled! cut up and steamed without mercy. how do you think that feels?

Some people are vegetarians just because meat actually makes them sick [my friend Terra being one of those people]. She tells me all the time she could care less about the animals.

It always makes me laugh.

On a side note, these comments have been hilarious. I'll be sorry when this review gets bumped off into the archives later today...

-Scott

PS - I like this album some.

plants may not feel pain or have brains.. but they are living oragnisms and they are being killed on a daily basis.

if you shoot a cow in the back of the head.. it wont feel pain... so is that ok? it didnt suffer so theres no problem? becasue thids is what youre basing your plant arguement on

I eat meat and i think its fine... but youre saying if it feels pain we shouldnt kill it.

also i would liek to ask how vedgetarians can not be vegans.. if theyre doing ti becsue they are against animal curelty, then why are they drinking milk and eating cheese.

you should be either a vegan or nothing... being in between makes you a hypocrite

Horrible. This band hasn't put out a good album in years.

It's still not okay to be a human. Eating is still wrong. Like the worms as our ancestors we will continue to eat and sh!te until we die. Live to consume.

That below comment reminds me of "Tale of Two Cities" from S/T. That's good stuff.

never, ever, ever put goldfinger in the same sentence as propagandhi. Goldfinger is another band jumping on the trendy band-wagon of annoying acts that pretend to stand for something but really don't. John Feldman is a fag.

worst cd ever

I wasn't trying to piss you off waste. Apparently I did anyway. Lighten up.

"the best argument against being a vegetarian/vegan ive come across is that the conditions that migrant workers toil under every day in order to provide us with our glorious vegetibles is just as bad as anything we do to cows. you get 10 year old kids working all day in fields and not getting a chance to go to school. never get to fall in love. never get to be cool........sorry, just had to throw in some neil young. how can somebody sit there and preach to you about treating animals in a humane way when they themselves are inadvertantly supporting the inhumane treatment of people?"

that's actually a very weak argument for several reasons. just think about it for a while. do you honestly believe that if we stopped eating vegetables these conditions would stop? no, these people would be out doing other miserable jobs for shitty pay. you have to get to the root of the problem, and boycotting vegetables is far from being the root. poverty is the problem here.

also, the vast majority of vegetables we receive here in the United States are not picked by migrant workers slaving under a hot sun. maybe 50 years ago, but not today.

the funny thing is goldfinger know people don't like any way they have never gone plantinum. what do you people listen to here any way. Least they enjoy what they do

the best argument against being a vegetarian/vegan ive come across is that the conditions that migrant workers toil under every day in order to provide us with our glorious vegetibles is just as bad as anything we do to cows. you get 10 year old kids working all day in fields and not getting a chance to go to school. never get to fall in love. never get to be cool........sorry, just had to throw in some neil young. how can somebody sit there and preach to you about treating animals in a humane way when they themselves are inadvertantly supporting the inhumane treatment of people?

gold finger are really, really old.

you're not an asshole for liking meat, you'are an asshole for attempting to piss me off with your ignorant comments.

i don't eat meat because i am poor. i am on the fucking computer at the library. now thats poor. i can afford a dollar sandwich at carls jr, which is the shit, if you can afford it. and this album is lame. my friend burned it for me. (cd's cost too fucking much). yeah and thats another thing about goldfinger is they are signed to mojo. mojo charges 18 dollars for their cds. that pisses me off. everyone needs to be poor.

I was unaware that enjoying meat qualified me as an asshole.

And on an unrelated note, I love that chicken from popeye's.

You can eat humans if you want. I am not gonna stop you. In fact I just bit my fingernail.

why would i give props to someone who got a shitty band signed

It's not ok to eat humans? Shit.

"and why is it ok to eat plants? i dont get it.. please explain"

well, i'll spare you any philisophical ramblings on what constitutes life and what does not. to simplify, animals have a brain and animals feel pain, plants do not.

if you have trouble differentiating between plants and animals, you've got some issues.

here's a question, why is it ok to eat animals but not humans?

Regardless of how much this guy tries to be punk or not, noone will ever respect him because he got Mest signed to a label and brought them on tour. God help us all.

it's not okay to eat plants. Its not okay to eat anything. In fact, unless you are being fed the dead introveniously, then the only thing that is okay is to point a gun at your own head after signing all your worldly posessions over to greenpeace and other such charities.

the human race should have ended long ago. don't eat.

i eat meat becasue i liek the taste.. if i didnt liek the taste i would eat soemthing else. im hungry so i eat

and why is it ok to eat plants? i dont get it.. please explain

I like this album even though I usually hate pop punk...

"how come we see commercials for got milk and beef it's what's for dinner, but no catchy tofu commercials?"

because the massive meat and dairy industry can afford the catchy advertising.

"Reel Big Fish still plays plenty of ska, and very little pop-punk."

HA! Cheer Up is pretty bad, and there's barely any real ska on there

hey wasted elite if we didn't eat the cows they'd eat us so that is if they had opposable thumbs

i heard tofu speeds up cancer growth

if being vegan is so dead awesome, how come we see commercials for got milk and beef it's what's for dinner, but no catchy tofu commercials? just wondering

i like goldfinger but this cd is poop.

With all this talk about meat...have you guys tried dots?????????? Man it's like the best candy. Ever. You all gotta try--i'm addicted. oh yeah, the record has some good music, very cheesy lyrics, and lacks ska. "woodchuck" is hilarious, the rest of the songs get boring after 2 listens however. "dad" is the most annoying song (think "bro" from stomping ground). oh yeah the guy who said "this is what i give the steak i just ate" was funny so was the guy who said the stuff "i was a longtime goldfinger fan..." i agree 100%
peace

Did I read that post correctly...you went to fuck cows?

It's funny, because everyone that hates this new album, also posted that they like the early ska stuff the best, and that they sholdve stayed in the style of the first two albums. The same people then go on to say that Charlie was the best part of goldfinger, we miss him yadda yadda yadda...
Charlie left goldfinger because he heted the slow ska stuff he wanted a harder style, a very un-ska style. It's just kinda funny how that works..
goldfinger rawks charlie rocks john rocks brian rocks darrin rox kelly rocx and simon (remember simon) he rox tooo

you, my prepubescent friend, are missing the point entirely.

Retard.

"just eating it cos u like the taste bugs me"

You are the dumbest person in the world. What do you want people not to do stuff they enjoy. Retard.

"fuck cows what else can they do but eat grass, and give us milk/meat"

yeah, then what good are kids, the handicapped, and old people? i mean all they do is whine and shit themselves, why not kill em and eat em? you sound like a nazi.

i don't have a problem with eating meat when it's a matter of survival. just eating it simply because you like the taste really bothers me.

my buddy has a why vegan video we watched it for kicks and then went out for some hamburgers and fuck cows what else can they do but eat grass, and give us milk/meat

why is it that people rarely bitch about intensely political bands (dead kennedys, propagandhi, crass, etc.) but they are always up in arms over vegan bands? fuck, i RARELY eat meat but i'm not vegan. assholes like you make me want to become one though.

"This score is for the steak I had for dinner tonight. mmm good."

point proven

track down a documentary or do some research on the meat industry and see how much you enjoy your fuckin steak next time.

This score is for the steak I had for dinner tonight. mmm good.

waste_elite

I dont care if someone is vegan/vegetarian/sXe whatever it just pisses me off when these people have their strong opinions and try and force them onto other people and make them change.

PS - I know where u can shove that aspargus

"if the GF guy keeps ehoving his vegan opinions down my throat in an attempt to gain more "punk" cred, I am gonna shove a big raw steak down his throat"

and the second dumbest man alive...

god forbid a band take a strong stand on an issue. whoa! we wouldn't want to offend anybody! nobody forces you to listen to GF, buddy. i'm gonna shove a big piece of asparagus down your throat.

Does anyone have the "Darrin's Coconut Ass" video? It contains the video for (I believe) "Only A Day" in which the band goes to Burger King, shoves Whoppers in it's face and then goes around stomping on flowers. I know that was awhile ago, but quite a change it attitude since then I'd say.

I eat meat

and if the GF guy keeps ehoving his vegan opinions down my throat in an attempt to gain more "punk" cred, I am gonna shove a big raw steak down his throat

On another note, I watched the drummer on the TSN show "OTR" and he is possibly one of the dumbest men I've seen.

Steak is pretty much the single best thing you can do for body building without doing drugs. Look at the diet of anyone who has put on a lot of muscle in a short time and then look at their diet...STEAK, BRUTHA.

The idea isn't eating about eating cows....it's about health. Eating vegetables, tofu and fish is much better for you than eating beef or pork- which are trash for your body. Fish and chicken are high in protien, especially fish- therefore they are good for building muscle. But beef and pork are death for it. If you don't wanna eat the animals then fine, there is nothing wrong with that, I love animals too, I only eat fish and i respect and appreciate the sacrafice that fish made so that i could eat it. If you dont wanna eat it fine. You guys should stop bagging on other peoples way of life it's not like they're attacking you!

"how is slaughtering living animals different from slaughtering living plants? its all liveing, its just the plants are not cute and they cannot scream. if carrots screamed ill bet you they would not be eaten by vegans"

ladies and gentleman, the dumbest man alive

Reel Big Fish still plays plenty of ska, and very little pop-punk.

bought the cd for 25$ for HMV sold for five the next day it hurt my ears to listen to. I hate the cover art

I really can't stand looking at that cover art, for some reason.

s/t was really good, hang-ups was OK, Stomping Ground was fucking amazing and one the best albums i own, open yours eyes was ok. If they keep this pattern up, the next one shoudl be really good. But its not bad considering the circumstances. 1. year strait of touring, its real hard to write an album on the road. 2. There label went under, so they didnt even know if there would be a next CD and where and when that would be. 3. charlie, one of the most insane lead guitarists ever, left the band 4. its the first album goldfinger recorded without a producer and in John's Home studio. 5. when the new deal went down with JIVE records, all record contracts were all of a sudden valid again. And the contract with MOJO said they have to release a Full length every 2 years. So they took whatever new songs they had, and everything that didnt make it on Stomping Ground, and taught it to there new guitarist during recording. I dont think many bands would be able to weather that storm and still come out with a decent album and get right back on there greuling tour schedual.
So in the end, its an ok album, nothing great. But i dont hate them for it, im sure the next one will be better.
And the vegan thing, how come whenever any vegiterian or vegan tried to say somthing about what they belive in, they are automatically an asshole? Theres no good way to word it because no matter what your telling people what tehy dont want to hear. Theres nothing wrong with eating meat, thats the way the world is set up to work, but people shouldtake a little more responsibilty into how animals are rasied and cared for. Im not going to get into thsi shit now though.
One last thing, if you like the "Stomping Ground" style of hard rock punk, fast, loud, fun instense punk/hard rock, check out 12cent. Youll really like it.
www.12cent.com

i dont get vegans.. i mean what the hell

how is slaughtering living animals different from slaughtering living plants? its all liveing, its just the plants are not cute and they cannot scream. if carrots screamed ill bet you they would not be eaten by vegans

meat is good and tofu is the most vile CRAP put on this earth. genetically engineer some meat for me and ill concider not eating real meat from animals, but untill then bring on the bloooood.

and i agree... ske was the thing they were best at... but they are going the way of all the bands such as reel big fish/ mad caddies and phasing out the horn section only to add more pop punk. well BOOOOOOOOO. we need more ska

holy shit, the guy who posted right b4 me was right on. ahhaha. hahaha. oh yea this cd sux. and mr. reviewer , i know u desperately want to still like this cd and hte band. but seriouly. half the songs on it are less than a minute long. woodcuck? ftn? liar? the opening song? wtf? this is shit! shit! fuck u feldmen, i want my money back. this cd feels like he wrote it in a weekend. or less. FUCK!

i was a longtime goldfinger fan (well i got the s/t cd when it was new, adn i was about 17, just starting to really get into punk) and so i have a soft spot for them. BUT this album changed all that. it is shit. it is pop punk crap, still no ska cuz i guess its not cool, but when it was they made albums that consisted of 50% ska tunes, and they were good at ska. but not anymore. maybe if feldmen didnt spend so much time making bad 9/11 songs w/ gc, or producing albums by mest and the used he would have time to write another 'mabel', 'here in your bedroom' super man, this lonely place, etc. but no. this album is shit, save maybe one or two OK songs. and i am a lenient reviewer of music. i always am optimistic. i like pop punk. i like mest, gc, nfg. and this is still shit, anyway u cut it. and whats up w/ the sudden transformation into a militant vegan band, pumping his beliefs of not eating meat not only into the single, but the artwork, and a pathetic condecending essay in the linear notes? fuck u feldmen and fuck goldfinger. they just played a show here(pittsburgh) and guess who wasnt there?
Cawknocker
ps. fuck goldfinger for being an old man shell of their former selves.
pps. charlie was so good. so good.

it's funny there are cd's i'll buy and cd's i'll burn and this is a burner cause i just need one more cd to finish my soldout vegan loser collection

Well Charlie, I don't know what the hell that video's about, but it sure seems preferable to being in Goldfinger. Well done.

WOOHOO! My review referenced in another review! I'm famous and shit. =P

As for Goldfinger pushing the vegan lifestyle, I don't really dig it either, but at least he's singing about something he believes in.

I miss the ska and Charlie too. Too bad Charlie's gone a little wierd.

Not bad and not that great, but it does grow on you after awhile. Open your eyes,january,dad are great songs. Spokesman is crap

why do vegans (at least the ones i know) feel the need to push thier lifestyle on everyone else? if they weren't so goddamned pushy then maybe people would listen to them

Very mediocre. I miss the days when Goldfinger kicked ass..

I'm a goldfinger fan but this album is pure shit, damn i miss charlie