Hot Water Music / Thrice / Coheed and Cambria

Hot Water Music/Thrice/Coheed and Cambria: live in Richmond, VAlive in Richmond, VA (2002)
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Contributed by: sickboiChris
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For a show of this magnitude, to come to Richmond, on the release date of Hot Water Music's new album "Caution", was enough for me to be walking around with a stupid fucking grin all day. I arrived after missing the opening band, I think they were the Start or something, who knows, but did show u.

For a show of this magnitude, to come to Richmond, on the release date of Hot Water Music's new album "Caution", was enough for me to be walking around with a stupid fucking grin all day.

I arrived after missing the opening band, I think they were the Start or something, who knows, but did show up just as Coheed and Cambria started. Now this isn't to mock emo, or whatever you want to call it (I've read your debate Seek), but I honestly thought a chick was singing before I took a gander of the large afro-ish mop atop the lead singer. Hmmm....

At times, he had a pretty interesting voice, and I was shocked to see how many kids were singing along. Yikes. Not my flava.

As Thrice set up I really thought to myself how fucking cool they are. I mean consider this...with their new popularity and major label signing, they could have pushed to headline this tour, but they have respect, and for that I give them all of the cred in the world.

Thrice put on a technically fantastic set, playing a handful of numbers from both 'Identity Crisis' and 'The Illusion of Safety'. Teenage girls swarmed the stage for the California boys (that oddly enough look more and more Gainesville-ish lately) but a few local Richmonders worked impromptu security to help keep the sex-crazed demons at bay while the guys played. (Assistance was even provided by former Ann Beretta member Matt Bedford). Hightlights from the set included the opener "Kill Me Quickly", "Identity Crisis", "Deadbolt" and the closer "T&C".

As Hot Water Music stepped up, I notice Chuck sporting an Avail "Richmond, VA, Vanarchy" shirt. Bomb. They blasted immediately into an incredible rendition of "Position", much faster than the older, and towards the end Chuck went absolutely nuts on the guitar, strumming and twitching like he was having a seizure. From there came "A Flight and a Crash", a great live number. Other mentionable items were the first 3 from Caution, "Remedy", "Trusty Chords" and "I Was on a Mountain". My favorite "Turnstile" was played as usual, along with "Alachua" and "Its Hard to Know". An incredible version of "Radio-Free Gainesville", with Chris screaming the vocals with a magnitude of passion, sent the crowd into a frenzy.

The only negative aspect, as is always the case with HWM, is I never get to hear all of my favorites, because, well, they can't play every song. Although I'd be willing to stay.


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Anonymous (November 4, 2002)

hey dummy,
where you play on a show has nothing to do with what label you're on. it has to do with how many people come to see you. if thrice was headlining in seattle (as there were in portland when i saw them) it was because more people came to see them.

Anonymous (October 30, 2002)

i really hop hwm headlines the seattle show tonight.... i can't imagine legends such as hwm opening for these new guys in thrice *cough*sellouts*cough.... i hate ppl that headline just cause they signed to a major label.

Anonymous (October 27, 2002)

I was able to attend the show in Pittsburgh on 10-17-02. I did not see the first band, but im over it. I was happy that i was able to see coheed and cambria, who put on an amazing show. The band is a little odd but there music is phenominal. Thrice was the down point to the show. I hated it, people were getting out of control punching people in the face(in the pit). There is no need for that shit, there music isn't that moving that you feel the need to punch people. But the best part was Hot water music. I have never been disappointed with them. They played alot of songs off their new album but they played great.

Anonymous (October 25, 2002)

yeah, i got to see this tour in chicago and was completely floored. co&ca was suprisingly good, thrice was the best thing i've seen this past year, and hwm was awesome. i'd never seen thrice before and boy was i blown away.

Anonymous (October 25, 2002)

Saw this show last night in Minneapolis. C&C were cool, but I swear that the singer looks like one of those shaggy dogs when he sings. The two dark sides of his afro, the ears, the blonde, the face, and the mic is it's nose. It's really amusing. Anyways, I had never heard them before and they are a very strong band, but the vocals were tiring. Hot Water was really good, but surprisingly, it was lacking a bit of energy. Thrice headlined and blew the top off the place. Holy crap, they put on one of the best shows I have ever seen! So much energy and they sounded perfect. Not a person in the place was standing still. Huge pit, frickin awesome, everyone should go out and see this show if you haven't already. Very strong lineup.

Anonymous (October 25, 2002)

Thrice headlined the St.Louis show..and like half of the people left.

Anonymous (October 25, 2002)

I fucking love Rush.

Anonymous (October 24, 2002)

I was at the show in Chicago lastnight, it was really good. All the bands played well, and HWM was awesome. Too bad they didn't play anything old really, just shit off the last 2 albums. I like them, but I wanted more of their older shit. C&C was awesome and whoever says they're emo is a boner.

Anonymous (October 24, 2002)

Just wait until you hear it....very "Over the James" ish. Really, really, good.


Anonymous (October 24, 2002)

This has nothing to do with your review, but seeing the mention of Richmond VA only bring one thing to mind and that's the new Avail CD!! I can't wait!!

WussEmoRock (October 23, 2002)

Thrice fucking owns! They are one of my favorite bands. To the loser below me, it is awesome how he goes from screaming to his poppy voice, it fits in perfectly with every song and that is what makes them that much more special. It changes the flow, and adds a lot to the band...and hey..if you don't like screaming, then you will at least like half of every thrice song.

damn, think about that


Anonymous (October 23, 2002)

Thrice is great until the singer starts singing like a pop singer

Anonymous (October 23, 2002)

be glad you missed the Start. They suck. a lot. They should do everyone a favor and die. Or at least quit the music business.

Anonymous (October 23, 2002)

hot water music is so fucking terrible... i cant understand why anyone likes them...

Anonymous (October 23, 2002)

i have always consider hot water music to be the best live band ever. when i saw coheed with from autumn to ashes i thought they gave hot water music some competition. the two together makes up a great tour.

Anonymous (October 23, 2002)

just caught the detroit show...thrice owns. so much energy, so much emotion. one of the best live shows i've ever seen. hwm only made it that much better!! i cant believe i got to see those two bands on the same bill again.

Anonymous (October 23, 2002)

hum, I tried to like C&C, but damn if that singer isn't the most annoying thing I've ever heard...I swore it was a girl when I heard him too...

As for Thrice and HWM, that's gotta be a killer show...I've never seen Thrice live, but i'm sure they blew everyone away...as for HWM, they are one of the best live bands I've seen...so much emotion...


Anonymous (October 22, 2002)

Sorry guys, but once you get used to C&C's singer's voice, they are very enjoyable, and actually quite hard. Listen to "Hearshot Kid Disaster". That song kills all.

Anonymous (October 22, 2002)

I saw them in DC. My opinion was that Hot Water Music had the best set of the show. Coheed and Cambria put on a great show, though I think the other two or three times I saw them before this were better. Thrice were good. I wish they would have played more than the first two tracks from Identity Crisis, considering their latest release was a disappointment to me.


Anonymous (October 22, 2002)

Thrice and HWM are sharing headlining spots on this tour. I think its along the lines of HWM headlines on the East Coast and Thrice headlines the West. Kinda makes sense.

Anonymous (October 22, 2002)

money is going down for the crows. Thrice is being sold as the headliner in alot of the dates, which is a little annoying.

Should be a good show.

Anonymous (October 22, 2002)

Maybe I drank too much....


Anonymous (October 22, 2002)

just for clarification purposes, i was at the show in richmond and thrice closed with to awake and avenge the dead. If they had played T C it would have been amazing, but they didnt. Regardless they still delivered an amazing set.

Anonymous (October 22, 2002)

I got the Crows cd, it is indeed the shiznit.


Anonymous (October 22, 2002)

Anyone who sees this tour pick up the cd The Cro(w)s (it's for sale at the shows). They're a Hot Water Music/As Friends Rust side project & it's a great cd.

chimericalburst (October 22, 2002)

thrice played t&c???? fuck you! i've seen them three times this year, yelled t&c everytime, and got nuthin'! t&c is an awesome song, and the best video game ever! (tony hawk can suck it!)


4131 (October 22, 2002)

Seriously, how did Geddy Lee find his way into an emo band? Just force yourself to listen to one Rush song right after a C&C song. That is the strongest argument for why a band sucks I have ever come up with.

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