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Against Me!

As The Eternal Cowboy
2003
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Published on November 7th 2003

If six strings ever had a chance to liberate – this is it.

With 6 cylinders of sweat drenched aggression Against Me! delivers the most pivotal release since “London Calling” and, therein lies its importance: uncompromised progress. By straying from their solitarily acoustic roots, much as Strummer strayed from his mold, Against Me!’s musical step forward is going to disenfranchise a few with its unparalleled progress. Essentially, this will serve as the transition chapter of a musical trilogy. There is already the amazing beginning (self-titled 7” and Crime 7”), and now with The Eternal Cowboy there is an amazing middle, perhaps the future holds a closing chapter that will transcend all the others.

As a band, the most flattering quality of Against Me! is that they aren’t preaching from a high plateau. Rather, they are in the trenches with us. With this release you get the feeling that you’re plotting the revolution with them, as opposed to numbly following along. Despite their musical reach, they still feel romantically close; almost like something that is too good to let go. But, with The Eternal Cowboy, the wolves are set free.

Musically, Against Me! rises above labeling; ‘folk’, ‘punk’, and ‘rock’ all fit. Quintessentially they are music: pure emotion with a beat. Perhaps Best Buy has it right when they call them “pop”, as in popular, as in you can throw away your Good Charlotte CD and join the revolution. As painful as it may be, this music is too urgent to not be heard. And, with any luck it won’t go unheard.



People who liked this also liked:
Against Me! - is Reinventing Axl RoseThe Lawrence Arms - Oh! Calcutta!Against Me! - Searching For A Former ClarityThe Lawrence Arms - The Greatest Story Ever ToldOperation Ivy - Operation IvyNOFX - The DeclineAlkaline Trio - GoddamnitThe Clash - London CallingThe Lawrence Arms - Apathy and ExhaustionRefused - The Shape of Punk to Come



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    Posted by scientistrock on 2008-05-10 18:16:52

    This review is quite prophetic. That is all.

    Posted by TommyPickles on 2008-04-04 22:45:26
    My Score:

    Not my favorite Against Me album but it's still pretty fucking good.

    Posted by Cire on 2008-01-06 01:28:06
    My Score:

    I don't really like how clean the vocals are on here. It ruins the album for me.

    Posted by CobraSkullsFan on 2007-12-13 23:58:24
    My Score:

    you guys can dump on my chest. one of my favorite AM! records, but not amongst the best rock records of all time.

    Posted by benz on 2007-04-28 03:18:43

    "As painful as it may be, this music is too urgent to not be heard."

    What does this sentence mean?

    Posted by ABedForLiars on 2006-09-02 16:15:49
    My Score:

    I am in love with this album. Against Me! is one of the greatest band of all time. I love how they bring all these musical influences together. They don't care what anyone thinks and they shouldn't. This is punk rock at it's best.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 at 4:39 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    i dont own this n havent heard any of it...
    but i hate it
    simply for the reason that it appears at th bottom of my screan for pretty much every review i read on this site
    tho someone did have a very good diea of removing his head it still pisses me off

    Posted by nikko on 2006-07-06 12:34:47
    My Score:

    I definitly see how they sound like the clash..especially on this album but dont be stupid and call it the next london calling. It's a good album but not that good.

    Posted by peaceonmars on 2006-06-08 20:50:59

    I love this album!
    But, my friend saw them with Alkaline Trio recently and all they played was new shit. So that sucks.

    Posted by TIGHT on 2006-05-23 22:01:39
    My Score:

    Definitely an excellent album

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 at 1:34 AM (EST)

    I'm really sorry but i had to chime in, because there is alot of nonsence and i can talk some nonsence. First, the album, because that is why people are reading this shit. I'm no hard core AM fan or anything, but this album is simply just an easier listen than RAR. I think i do agree that RAR is a better album, but it's hard to jump right into it. But i like simply think the album is good. A better start for new fans. Now, The Clash. There is alot of the clash's music that i havn't heard and i couldn't tell you what songs are on what albums. The clash have some really good songs, such as white riot but they aslo have some very poor songs. There are much better "punk" bands out there. If you are looking for older stuff, i would sugest Stiff Little Fingers, or the Buzzcocks. As far as newer things, just as good or even better than anything by AM, try the lawrence arms, and none more black. I really doubt that AM are anarchists as some say. I believe i saw one of thier videos on cable, which just seems like something anarcists would frown on. ok i'm bored.

    Posted by warningdevice on 2005-12-22 23:45:36
    My Score:

    As the first track indicates... THIS SHIT RULES!

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 26, 2005 at 4:10 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    First of all I love this god damn record. And whoever said that it would be better without sink, florida, sink needs a helmet.
    My next point is for everyone who bitches about anything they don't consider to be "punk" attached to the "punk" label. The whole fucking idea of punk is dead anyway (sure there is some good punk music out there, but the fight is fucking over). So what's the point in arguing over a word that is now meaningless as far as its original context is concerned? I sense bitterness stemming from the realization that your lives of devotion to a god damn brand are all for naught. You know what's NOT "punk"? Trying to justify your actions and preferences as punk...who cares?? Also, who cares if fucking tom gabel squatted for a while? Your attraction to music should be based on THE MUSIC not what the fucking singer did before he got signed. I am aware that this may just be senseless banter falling on deaf ears but that seems to be a major theme in this stream. peace.
    P.S. to that fucker who had an aneurism on account of an outkast cover and girls in bikinis: you may have been better off unloading your shit and rubbing one out while they danced than taking it up with everyone here. now get the hell outta here i've got booze.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 23, 2005 at 10:15 AM (EDT)

    Against Me! kicked ass with ALL of their early 7 inches, Reinventing Axl Rose, Eternal Cowboy, Disco Before The Breakdown, and everything else they've done. Also, Searching for a Former Clarity is an amazing album. These guys make great noise that is really fun to listen to and very catchy. A lot of people bitch about the "change" in their sound. I prefer to call it a 'development'. I mean, would they be as good if the songs on their new records sounded exactly like the stuff on their first???? I think not. I think development is crucial to a band's success and these guys have yet to do wrong in my book. cheers. PRJ

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 1, 2005 at 11:31 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    This is some of the most original music written in today's over-produced, corporate-fabricated, black nail poish/mascara wearing era of shit they call music today. This music is real and will be around for a long time. To all you morons listed below: You can like more than one band and FEEL how they have been influenced by some of those you all listed. It is not impossible for bands to hear something they like and BUILD upon it. If any of you even know how play an instument (not other band's songs) or have ever written a verse in your life, you will understand where I am coming from.

    Posted by tapam4182 on 2004-11-14 23:21:23
    My Score:

    this is a good album, I'd have to say not exactly their best, but with the new record label and all, it does still have that good vibe coming from the songs... it just sounds a little too... "clean." this album is great though

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 8, 2004 at 5:38 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "This band is to the Clash as Good Charlotte are to the Ramones. You can put them in the same sentence, but you can't put them on the same playing field."

    youre thinking of rancid.

    nah the guy was right

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 6, 2004 at 12:45 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    What i don't understand is where anyone is comparing this band to the pogues, dropkick murphy's, the clash, or any of the above or alike. The comments almost seem to come with disappointment that Against Me! has a unique sound to what is considered "punk rock" today. their folk influence (which is not the same as the pogues, dropkick murphy's, tossers, or flogging molly...all of whose influences stem from inner city irish pub rock) and lack of heavy distortion is what makes this band something special. They are simplistically complicated, intricate, and extremely amazing song writers. Trying to compare them to any of those bands listed is retarded.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 26, 2004 at 2:27 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    this shit rules......how true

    Posted by baaadkitty666 on 2004-05-31 18:26:59
    My Score:

    I really love Against me with all my heat... lol... but i found this album quite disappointing compare to the rest. I do enjoy it, but it was not as good as their others. But Much Love To Against Me! anyways.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 5:09 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    This CD is really good. I love it a lot because the songs are meaningfull and energetic. Although, the downside is that these songs are pretty short. So if your more into quantity instead of quality you may be shocked or dissapointed at this. But for me i'm all for it. If you liked this CD i'd advise you to get "Reinventing Axl Rose" also (it's on No Idea! Records). The singer is really cool too, because he has a cool raspy sound to his voice. Overall, a good action-packed album.

    Posted by magnificent7 on 2004-04-15 05:43:10
    My Score:

    Can someone explain where all the clash references come from, the bands sound nothing like each other, im a huge clash fan and the only possible album that sounds similar is give em' enough rope! It is nothing lke london calling, it sounds very different and london calling is so much better.

    Posted by magnificent7 on 2004-04-15 05:43:10
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    Can someone explain where all the clash references come from, the bands sound nothing like each other, im a huge clash fan and the only possible album that sounds similar is give em' enough rope! It is nothing lke london calling, it sounds very different and london calling is so much better.

    Posted by magnificent7 on 2004-04-15 05:40:44
    My Score:

    I admit this album is good, very good infact. We have had plenty of neo emo screamo shoved down our throats recently, but this band is like a breath of thresh air. The album is a bit short ,and some of the songs are a tad samey but apart from that, its great.

    Posted by Sciulli on 2004-03-24 14:05:43
    My Score:

    Dillinger Four and Against Me are keeping punk rock alive.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 4, 2004 at 8:33 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    First off, a mall punk would not be listening to the clash. It has been over a year since Strummer died it just isnt that cool anymore, they would rather listen to afi. Secondly this album is gold. just amazing, it is definetly different from flogging molly dropkick murphys and swinging utters. DKM and flogging molly have to much irish in them, and well they just dont sound like swinging utters. Finally it pales in comparison to the first clash album and london calling but gives give em enough rope a run for its money.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 16, 2004 at 7:47 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Okay first off, all the trendy mall punks out there need to take Joe Strummer's decaying cock out of their mouth long enough to actually listen to the album first before bashing it, no it isn't "London Calling." But it's still a good cd on it's own. The reviewer fucked up by even mentioning the Clash, because posers will jump all over it like stink on shit

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 12, 2004 at 4:32 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Not bad, not bad at all. Not the greatest album I've heard, but I can see and hear the folk influence. Nothing like DKM, Swinging Utters or Flogging Molly though (BTW, the Pogues called, they want you three to stop, now). Like another Fat band, None More Black, definitely a better band to see live.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 5:05 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Ahh damn 2x post.......

    -c22

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 5:04 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    This review is way beyond awful. "You Look Like I Need A Drink", and "Rice and Bread" are by far the best song on the cd, and the only good songs on the damned thing. I was also a happier person before I heard "Cavalier Eternel", and I'm almost 100% sure they ripped off someone on "Cliche Guevara". Such a fucking disappointment, Reinventing Axl Rose destroys this waste of time.

    -c22

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 5:04 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    This review is way beyond awful. "You Look Like I Need A Drink", and "Rice and Bread" are by far the best song on the cd, and the only good songs on the damned thing. I was also a happier person before I heard "Cavalier Eternel", and I'm almost 100% sure they ripped off someone on "Cliche Guevara". Such a fucking disappointment, Reinventing Axl Rose destroys this waste of time.

    -c22

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 5:25 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    by the way, this review is spectacular.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 5:22 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    they sound nothing like swinging utters. they sound nothing like dropkick. there is no clear dead kennedys influence. of course, there's nothing wrong with another's opinion...but you've got to know more about music to be taken seriously.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 at 7:14 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    i am truly and deeply hurt that anyone would ever put these guys down. they are one of the most original, and most talented bands in music today, and anyone who sais otherwise is probably lisening to theyre blink 182 cd right before they catch carson daily on mtv. And radiohead does fucking rock

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 28, 2003 at 2:00 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Swinging Utters called. They want you to stop stinking up their sound.

    This band is easily the most overrated in punk today. The new album is 26 minutes of boring.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 24, 2003 at 4:05 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    They sound nothing like Dropkick.

    That is retarted.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 20, 2003 at 2:18 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    Decent review, but I think this album lacks the drive that reinventing axle rose had towards rebellious sound.

    I would suggest people get that album instead.

    Posted by Jesse on 2003-11-19 10:34:30
    My Score:

    This shit sucks balls. It sounds like angry kids trying to sound like Dropkick Murpheys and Dead Kennedys. Plus, the band name blows.

    Posted by Analog_Boy on 2003-11-17 18:23:35
    My Score:

    " Then I listened to London Calling, and realized that every person who posted about how much better AM is than the Clash is just...wrong."

    Hmm...well anyone who said the alblum is better than london calling was either joking, or retarded. You gotta realize the sarcasm.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 17, 2003 at 4:32 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Absolutely great album by AM this..their best by far.

    And those who don't like Radiohead:ok. Those who bash Radiohead: you're not music fans; you're fucking trendwhores: just stop commenting on music, you have no fucking clue. Die.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 at 12:17 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    But much pricier....

    -sickboi

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2003 at 12:17 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Almost as good as your mother...

    -sickboi

    Posted by blood_brothers_are_good on 2003-11-14 12:12:38
    My Score:

    hey s8r boi, oops i mean sickboi, how's avril?

    Posted by sickboi on 2003-11-13 20:36:37
    My Score:

    Everytime we argue this, I specifically tell you that I UNDERSTAND that some people have no toehr choice, and that I sympathize. My message is to those thinking its cool. What else must I say to get it through your skull?

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2003 at 8:32 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    I'm not saying it's rebellion. It's actually the opposite. I was correcting your dumb generalization that squatters are trying to "glorify" their lifestyle... I mean, you try living in a squat, then call someone lazy trash. The truth is it's much harder than actually having a place to stay at night. Try living on the concrete floor of an abandoned factory... Or begging to get by, or working 15 hours just to LIVE. Squatting is NOT easy, and you seem to have some bands' explicit documentation of it mixed up with left wing propaganda...

    -BSD

    Posted by sickboi on 2003-11-13 19:45:27
    My Score:

    See BSD....I have nothing against those attempting to do something....but do you have any clue how many fucking lazy pieces of trash there are that just want to get by doing nothing?

    We've had this argument before, and you can argue the "rebelling against corporate American" all you want, but; I have no degree, I work for a non-profit organization, and I pay rent. I understand that sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, but you can you look me straight in the face and say some of these fucks don't try to glorify it? Din't think so.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2003 at 7:27 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "So, kids, tell me what is so cool about squatting and making noise and shit?

    You see, some of us actually WORK, and pay rent or mortgage. Pretty punk, right? Not really, but I take a little fucking pride in paying my own way. I tell ya, if I was trying to get some sleep, and some retarded fucks wanted to bang on shit just to make noise and be "anarchists", I'd punch em right in their anarchist throats.

    -sickboi"

    Idiotic... Someone could easily say "well I take pride in not selling out to corporate America, if I see a punk get a job, I'll punch him in the face!" just like you... Personally, the jobs that MOST of us get can't pay for rent alone... Most of the squatters I know hold one or two low paying jobs. The truth is, most squatters don't do so for "the lifestyle". They do it cos they're poor and are part of the population that will always BE poor, no matter how manny hours they get payed 5 dollars for cleaning up the mess some kids made in the bath room at the 711... And by the way, AM! aren't anarchists, Ithink they're socialists.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2003 at 7:00 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Awesome album. Lame review.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2003 at 3:35 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "ARGLE, ARGLE, ARGLE"....

    This my friends, is the sound of Against Me!'s collective cocks in the mouth of this reviewer...

    -sickboi

    Posted by blood_brothers_are_good on 2003-11-13 13:29:09
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    "none of your comments are valid. you all lose scene points for discussing the deeper meaning of punk"

    you lose scene points for discussing who has scene points.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2003 at 1:07 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    you tell it!!!!

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2003 at 11:36 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    So, kids, tell me what is so cool about squatting and making noise and shit?

    You see, some of us actually WORK, and pay rent or mortgage. Pretty punk, right? Not really, but I take a little fucking pride in paying my own way. I tell ya, if I was trying to get some sleep, and some retarded fucks wanted to bang on shit just to make noise and be "anarchists", I'd punch em right in their anarchist throats.

    -sickboi

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 at 10:44 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    none of your comments are valid. you all lose scene points for discussing the deeper meaning of punk

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 at 10:35 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    1) Yes, Against Me! are the real deal. They are real anarchists and the original guitarist and drummer lived in a squat for some time... keeping the locals awake with their screaming and banging on various boxes and bins.

    2) London Calling is GOOD but not AS GOOD as thier second album with songs like, "Safe European Home" but that's another story...

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 at 10:18 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Yeah, they're anarchists.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 at 4:58 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    call me whatever, but is against me anarchists? im just wondering.

    Posted by vien on 2003-11-12 03:27:32
    My Score:

    "The first time I listened to this record I said Man, this shit is good, but there's no way it could be Against Me!."

    That's what I thought too. After hearing RAR, the singer screamed the hell out of that record, and hearing him harmonize on "As the Eternal Cowboy" kind of surprised me. The lyrics weren't as challenging and as sarcastic as I hoped it would be like RAR, but it was yet a different approach taken by them. It's a decent album I would say.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 at 12:19 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    This Bike Is A Pipe Bomb. End of story.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 8:33 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    haha i love this. it's the dumbest conversation ever. retracts most of my faith in mankind.

    as for this album, am! has been my favorite band for a while now. while this is a step in a different direction from what made me fall in love with am!, i still think it's a great album. it is more melodic and less raw than their older stuff, but the guitar melodies and tom's incredible voice show that am! is still going very, very strong.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 3:33 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    The first time I listened to this record I said "Man, this shit is good, but there's no way it could be Against Me!." But the more and more I listen to it, the more and more it starts to sound like Against Me!, musically and lyrically.

    Posted by blood_brothers_are_good on 2003-11-11 15:17:20
    My Score:

    the clash = good
    against me = awesome
    AFI = one of the worst bands on the planet? i wouldn't doubt it
    the blood brothers = the king of all that is music

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 2:40 PM (EST)
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    Look, I read all your comments, and then I decided to walk over to the record store and buy the damn thing. Then I listened to London Calling, and realized that every person who posted about how much better AM is than the Clash is just...wrong.

    PS Radiohead is stupid, AFI is cool, and this record, while decent, is not even close to my top five records of the year.

    PPS. This review blew. That's all.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 2:31 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    The clash sucked, don't drag these guys down to the horribleness of the clash

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 2:02 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    yeah they are good..but the hype is too huge..I don't think they are the best band of the moment, but they sure are talented.

    Posted by samnorth on 2003-11-11 12:20:10
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    i don't know if someone has already said this and i'm not going to read all the comments to check, but did the reviewer call this their third release? crime, acoustic, reinventing, disco. and now cowboy. my math says five.

    Posted by hein on 2003-11-10 19:18:00
    My Score:

    Am I the only one who thinks there's a bit of a resemblance with Ann Beretta's sound here?

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 7:07 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    listen to music

    Posted by Analog_Boy on 2003-11-10 17:40:40
    My Score:

    "1. Masturbating with sand paper; the bood and semen forms a fry sauce looking substance(for those of you outside of Utah, fry sauce is mayonais and ketchup mixed"

    ahh weird...

    that is all.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 5:34 PM (EST)
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    What is the big deal? I heard RAR and I thought it was good...but nothing special or anything that really caught my attention. Havent heard this yet, but it can't be as groundbreaking as you people say it is. Best thing since the Clash? The Clash were amazing...and there have been plenty of other amazing bands since then...many bands far more amazing than these guys....I'm not knocking them, but I just need to break the hype down a bit....these guys arent the savior of punk rock....but they are good.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 5:04 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "Against Me! delivers the most pivotal release since “London Calling”

    Fuck this comment.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 5:03 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Well it's not all gold :)

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 4:45 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "I just noticed the anti-"Urgh! A Music War" comment. Them's fightin' words. Klaus Nomi alone makes it badass."

    What about the Surf Punks? Hahahaha.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 4:42 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "The Clash had no feelings?"

    Punk music has always been about real emotions, from the start, but the general "attitude" of its followers has always been the whole "no matter who you are I hate you" thing... Kind of immature, and old fashioned by today's standards. And yes, GreenVandal, punk rock isn't supposed to be long and drawn out, because you can't make rock songs that long and not become prog, which is what punks hated...

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 3:31 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    I like this record, I liked the last record. Against Me! seem to remind me of Husker Du way more then the Clash.

    Posted by sfbarker on 2003-11-10 15:22:05
    My Score:

    Against Me!>Clash

    Posted by FortyMinutesWest on 2003-11-10 15:11:51
    My Score:

    "Jesus saves, Lemieux taps in the rebound"

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 2:53 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    to everyone who has posted below me:

    this guy's full of shit

    you're over it, go listen to some music instead of arguing about it

    Posted by Mr_Pink on 2003-11-10 13:50:12
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    I just noticed the anti-"Urgh! A Music War" comment. Them's fightin' words. Klaus Nomi alone makes it badass.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 12:42 PM (EST)
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    Hey, here's a question:

    I always see bumper stickers that say "Jesus is Lord", or "Jesus is King", well which is it?

    -sickboi

    Posted by blood_brothers_are_good on 2003-11-10 12:25:06
    My Score:

    against me rules. but the blood brothers are god.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 9:40 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    "Of course the attitude (no future, no feelings, no fun - in the U.K., at least) was a tremendous part of the movement."

    The Clash had no feelings?

    Posted by Greenvandal on 2003-11-10 08:32:14
    My Score:

    just tried to hard to showoff* and not to show emotion.

    typo!

    Posted by Greenvandal on 2003-11-10 08:29:25
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    Well, thye songs werent show offy wank fests just because they were long. They were wank crap because they just tried to hard to show and not to show emotion. Refuseds New Noise is about 6 minutes long, and there isnt a boring seconde in it, where as I would say the locust entire catalog bores me and there songs are about 20 seconds long (give or take a second) so timing doesnt really matter to me. It just seems everyone gets pissed off and says things are boring if they arent angry. there are more emotions than anger. Radionhead is a band I dont like...but I do understand there merits and there ideas, and can see no reaosn why anyone would hate them.

    I never saw punk as music, but as a idea. The idea was to be completely different from what was prevelant then, and that idea still holds true today. but at the moment, what was once punk is the big deal...so what are you into? Punk the idea (be as different as possible) or punk the music (whatever the fuck that is..who knows anymore)?

    Just some early morning thoughts...

    boy do I love the blood brothers.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 7:37 AM (EST)
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    I'm not saying that's all it was about, but from a musical standpoint, yes. Of course the - in the U.K., at least) was a tremendous part of the movement.

    Well, sorry people. Some reason my last sentence got cut off. What I meant to say was this:
    Of course the attitude (no future, no feelings, no fun - in the U.K., at least) was a tremendous part of the movement.
    -Janelle

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 7:35 AM (EST)
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    "Punk is about many different things. but i shudder to think that someone actually thinks its about something as petty as 'no more 6 miute songs'"

    Hey man, just saying one of the factors that contributed to the movement. The kids were fed-up with that. They in turn shortened songs, went back to basics, and technical ability wasn't important. Back in the mid-to late-70s, punk was a rebellion against the music that was popular. They brought it back to how it was in the '50s and '60s, pure, flat-out rock 'n' roll. It was ramshackle, no virtuoso musicians flaunting their skills.
    That's my two cents. Just telling it like it was, my friend. I'm not saying that's all it was about, but from a musical standpoint, yes. Of course the - in the U.K., at least) was a tremendous part of the movement.
    -Janelle

    Posted by vien on 2003-11-10 03:21:32
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    I still like RAR better.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 10, 2003 at 1:39 AM (EST)
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    While we're off topic here...I just saw Saves The Day with Moneen tonight in Myrtle Beach, as an encore STD covered "Hey Ya" by Outkast, not only this but merch girls and members of Taking Back Sunday and Moneen all put on bikinis and danced...

    Posted by ElVaquero on 2003-11-10 00:09:23
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    some things:

    there's nothing wrong with liking music about killing your girlfriend. dammit.

    Three Feet High And Rising and Straight Outta Compton are the reason that rap is good and popular (repsectively, not together dumbass). NWA and Public Enemy remain the only gangster rap groups/artists that i like.

    Radiohead while not necessarily "good" were and are very influential. However, that sucks for us because we now have 20 bands that sound just as bad.

    Who gives a shit if there's a non-punk record reviewed on this website. This isn't an absolutely punk website. That's right, this isn't AbsolutePunk.net.

    My jokes are bad, live with it and the non-punk reviews here, if you can't, I might have to review the new Atmosphere album just to piss you off.

    That record was released on Epitaph.

    6 minute songs are hereon restricted to Power Metal and bands from the midwest. No one else.

    i like afi. i don't hate them. i don't love them. i do love to prove people rong though.

    making jokes intended to go over people's heads isn't always a great idea.

    i don't like nirvana or the pixies. deal.

    against me! gets better with every instrument you take away. except tom's guitar. never get rid of that.

    stop arguing about the death of punk and genre-classifying bullshit. just listen to the music you assholes.

    -El Vaquero
    this has been yet another procrastination session from your friend, the cowboy. this review still sucks.

    Posted by dignin on 2003-11-10 00:00:04
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    also radiohead sounds NOTHING like rent or any "new wave" band

    Posted by dignin on 2003-11-09 23:33:25
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    I agree punk was originally to rebel against six minute songs and such. But now most of punk rock has become unbelievably stale, so I think since punk has been raped by the main stream and alo is a simple way to play music, maybe we should rebel against it? Just a thought.

    Radiohead may be more boring to people with short attention spans, or maybe their not your thing. But if you ask me, most hardcore(directed at forty) and its related genres are EXTREMELY boring. Although there are some good bands in hardcore it is mostly generic crap. Just cause you dont like them doesnt mean they suck

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 11:15 PM (EST)
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    I've only listned through it about 4 times, but still, I don't think it'll get much more than a 7. They did too much work on the vocals, they're too well produced, not the harmonic screaming I'm used to. I know that's progress, but it didn't click as well with me well as "Crime" did. There's nothing wrong with going a bit more mellow, and their lyric intensity is still amazing. In any case, this is still an amazing band to see live. That was the best 25 minutes of my life, Wichita KS. All in all it wasn't as good as I had expected, but they are still my favorite band, unless the new Blood Brothers cd is as good as their last. and to the one talking about "godspeed you black emperor" that was really great.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 10:21 PM (EST)
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    punk is "Godspeed You Black Emperor!" all these other bands are trash compared to them. you know it's true.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 10:20 PM (EST)
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    This album is amazing if you skip "Sink, Florida, Sink."

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 10:19 PM (EST)
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    against me is tate-core

    Posted by Greenvandal on 2003-11-09 21:31:58
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    Good to know that such old school hard rockin punkers can have a petty "what should I label this band?" discussion just like the prog/metal/emo kids on this site alwats do. Shows some unity.

    Punk is about many different things. but i shudder to think that someone actually thinks its about something as petty as "no more 6 miute songs" Theres a whole lot of things to be pissed about besides music you find "boring".

    I usually concentrate on talking about music that makes me hate.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 8:44 PM (EST)
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    The review is a bit over the top, but i saw them live last night and they rocked the shit out of me. The energy they bring to the stage is also evident on this record. Go out and buy now.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 6:58 PM (EST)
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    I've been comparing Against Me! to the Clash for a while now. They really are "the new only band that matters."

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 6:26 PM (EST)
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    bold fucking review

    ...a little too bold, really. after your orgasm you'll calm down and retract a couple of those statements.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 6:17 PM (EST)
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    Am I only one here who sees that everybody on this site either hates AFI and Davey or loves them? I just think they suck. Oh well.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 5:58 PM (EST)
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    ok i am the guy who did the cds below, i just want to specify that i said all of these albums are awful. i said they were "punk" albums becuase thats what they are labelled as. not becuase thats what i think they are. the only label they deserve is crap.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 5:49 PM (EST)
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    to the person below me, avril isn't punk rock? get the fuck out of here! well that's news to all of us. and afi's sing the sorrow is about as good as hootie and the blowfish's follow up. yep, THAT good.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 5:34 PM (EST)
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    to the person below me, simple plan, avril lavigne, and those other bands that i've never ehard of (not afi) are not punk bands

    sing the sorrow is an amazing album, and if you don't like it you're wrong, end of story (think of it as a davey side project when you listen instead of an afi album and its a lot better)

    yep

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 4:00 PM (EST)
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    i love this cd. that said:
    5 albums LESS important than this album since londan calling (actually 5 albums less important this year):
    1. simple plan - no pads no helmets, jsut balls
    2. avril lavigne - let go
    3. AFI - sing the sorrow
    4. story of the year - page avenue
    5. Rufio - 1985
    (these are basically the msot awful recent albums that i could think of, i tried to stick with only punk albums, avril is not, but some idiots think she is so i stuck her up there. simple plan is still worse)

    Posted by jwinter on 2003-11-09 15:33:36
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    I'm gonna have to say I like RAR more. I really liked how different it was. This CD is gettin dangerously close to soundin like all the rest of the punk stuff out there.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 3:22 PM (EST)
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    The last album was Against Me! is 'Reinventing Axl Rose'. The new album is Against Me! as 'The Eternal Cowboy'.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 3:18 PM (EST)
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    Hmm...good point. Hey Blondie played with The Ramones a lot and is considered punk - I always thought of Blondie as New Wave/pop-type stuff. But all the bands that came through the ranks at CBGBs get put under the Punk moniker. And Talking Heads for that matter...speaking of which I'm off to CBs for Kill Your Idols.
    -Janelle

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 2:31 PM (EST)
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    "speaking of radiohead, what the fuck are they doing reviewed on PUNKnews.org? last time i checked, the ramones and punk rock were all about rebelling against these types of bands who wrote boring prog rock 6 minute songs that supposedly scream creaviity but really amount to a pile of horse manure. they shoulda put on some radiohead, not metallica, when the u.s. was trying to torture those al quaeda terrorists"

    Don't ask me... Half the kids who read this are metalheads or prog rockers, evidently. The first wave bands and their original causes get no respect on this site...

    But just to play the devil's advocate, what about Television? They had long songs, and played lots of gigs with the Ramones.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 1:52 PM (EST)
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    yeah the 'as' is just like a gimmick, the cd itself is titled the eternal cowboy

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 1:51 PM (EST)
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    it is just the eternal cowboy, go to fat's web site, it's not as the eternal cowboy

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 1:43 PM (EST)
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    Good point about punk being a movement that railed against the "6-minute" song - so true - it was a rebellion against the drawn-out guitar solos, the superflous drum fills, all the extraneous factors.

    But, really, they played Metallica to torture prisoners?
    -Janelle

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 1:30 PM (EST)
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    speaking of radiohead, what the fuck are they doing reviewed on PUNKnews.org? last time i checked, the ramones and punk rock were all about rebelling against these types of bands who wrote boring prog rock 6 minute songs that supposedly scream creaviity but really amount to a pile of horse manure. they shoulda put on some radiohead, not metallica, when the u.s. was trying to torture those al quaeda terrorists.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 11:51 AM (EST)
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    How about this, any of those ugly skinny guy new wave bands of the early 80s. Like I know their names? Just in general boring new wave music. Don't deny it. Rent "Urrgh" (I think that's the name of it) if you can find it. To be honest I taped it off of USA 15 years ago, I think, so I don't know if it's still in print. It has DK (recorded without permission and edited!), Chelsea, X, and about 2 other good bands (Burning Spear and UB 40 I think but can't rightly remember) on it. The rest of it is new wave crap. That's what I'm talking about. Enjoy.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 9, 2003 at 9:58 AM (EST)
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    Good album, bad review.

    Posted by Greenvandal on 2003-11-09 08:33:56
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    Dude. Your talking about a band with actual creativity on this website. What do you expect? If the songs arent about killing your girlfriend or how fuckin rockin anarchy is, then no one here likes it. Now go put that back in the POPular section where you found it.

    This review is the essence of crap. I have written some high flying over praising reviews in my time...but not give a single example of the sound or even mention a single song title, standout track, or lyric you enjoyed?

    Did you even listen to this yet?

    Posted by theycallmejesus on 2003-11-09 02:06:10
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    um, correct me if i'm wrong, but this is a review for against me! not radiohead...

    i haven't heard the album, so i'll give it a one. if i don't own it, it can't be good. or something.

    Posted by FortyMinutesWest on 2003-11-09 00:45:42
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    Radiohead is really boring..

    Posted by dignin on 2003-11-09 00:44:24
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    "Radiohead are terrible. "Oh, look at us we're so misunderstood." No you're not, but you are boring.
    Radiohead are not important, never will be."

    Never heard them say that. As a matter of fact that seems to be the theme of any punk...ever. And I never said they were the most important band out there, but they are more important/revolutionary/influential than against me. Although I like against me

    Posted by dignin on 2003-11-09 00:42:13
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    "Radiohead is if shitty new wave bands got the idea to do prog... And they aren't the first, but they're definitely the most famous. Boring shit, really."

    Your ignorance keeps shining through, and please name these bands that came before radiohead.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 8, 2003 at 10:48 PM (EST)
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    if someone is reading this and has this cd, please make a new review of it since this review doesn't tell me too much of the cd its self.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 8, 2003 at 8:41 PM (EST)
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    Radiohead are terrible. "Oh, look at us we're so misunderstood." No you're not, but you are boring.
    Radiohead are not important, never will be.

    ...evildeadalive

    Can't wait to see these guys with None More Black and Rise Against. Oh yeah, and that other band...

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 8, 2003 at 7:17 PM (EST)
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    pretty cool record

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 8, 2003 at 7:07 PM (EST)
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    Radiohead is if shitty new wave bands got the idea to do prog... And they aren't the first, but they're definitely the most famous. Boring shit, really.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 8, 2003 at 6:44 PM (EST)
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    just because its new, doesn't mean its good

    Posted by dignin on 2003-11-08 18:07:50
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    "No need to get personal, dignin. It's just all your favorite music is very fitting for the casual elevator ride... Nothing wrong with that, it's just just not no London Calling!"

    Well, at least you got a new argument for why radiohead sucks, cause last time all you could come up with is "I say Radiohead has been done before is, because, frankly, they have...", but you never got around naming those bands radiohead copied. And I never said it was London Calling, thats the point, Ok Computer was a highly original and influential album. So your right, "its just just not no London Calling"

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 8, 2003 at 5:49 PM (EST)
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    wow...i'm really surprised by your review just because after listening to the whole cd i felt like it clearly fell apart after the first three songs.

    i like against me! and think they have a lot going for them. but, this release just falls off--it starts great and goes straight down.

    fat didn't "ruin" them...they've been moving in a faster, more distorted direction on their own. "as the eternal cowboy" just isn't that great.

    Posted by vien on 2003-11-08 17:37:41
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    I still like RAR better.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 8, 2003 at 5:32 PM (EST)
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    i appreciate the writing in this review.

    yep

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 8, 2003 at 5:32 PM (EST)
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    i think its very fitting to place them in the same league as the clash. theyre following up on a musical tradition that went from the clash to operation ivy and now against me!
    theyve got the potential to be one of the most important punk bands of our time.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 8, 2003 at 5:25 PM (EST)
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    "This band is to the Clash as Good Charlotte are to the Ramones. You