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Taking Back Sunday

Where You Want To Be
2004
Victory

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Review by: colin
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Published on July 27th 2004

It wasn't too long ago that I was thinking that Taking Back Sunday could do no wrong. A guilty pleasure of mine, their emo-post-popcore (or whatever you want to call it) sound struck a chord with me, and after being introduced to an advanced copy of "Tell All Your Friends," I was hooked. I saw them in concert a few times, enjoyed it all, thought they were a great band with amazing potential for taking the sound of early Saves The Day and driving it through the head with a hammer, bringing more edge and bite to it.

Enter the drama machine. Although the 'official' details are never released, guitarist/singer/songwriter John Nolan and bassist Shaun Cooper leave. I assume, at this point, the band is dead. I guess they proved me wrong... to some extent.

As it turns out, the band is very much alive and have produced a valiant sophomore effort with ex-members of Breaking Pangea attempting to fill in the gaping holes left in the lyrics and music. And I am using "attempting" very, very loosely.

The very first few seconds of the album scream of overproduction. While the production on "Tell All Your Friends" was noticable, it actually helped the dual vocals, equalizing them very well with the guitars and amazing drums. This time around, no such luck. The introductory track is a perfect mock up for what the rest of the album will contain: painfully bad, overly repetative lyrics trying too hard to be written by someone who did not write them ("Go on, just say it/You need me like a bad habit"), an overly obvious verse/chorus/verse/chorus/breakdown/chorus formula, poppy and radio-ready guitars which don't carry half the same melody and individuality as what they used to, and the often off key and some times just plain awful ("New American Classic") vocals of Adam Lazzara.

I will repeat this now, before the "Oh, you're biased" comments ensue... I was a huge fan of this band.

"Bonus Mosh Part 2" is one of the stronger tracks on the album, not falling too much into the failures of repetition and simplicity, with a unique duality of guitar work. Unfortunately, it's all downhill from there.

By the time the aforementioned "New American Classic" begins with an acoustic guitar, the album is already a simple formula, to which an intervention is needed. So, what better way than an acoustic, Dashboard Confessional-esque chart topper? Nice try. "New American Classic" has to be one of the worst songs I've ever heard, especially for the now booming acousticapellaemo genre. Such a bold title for such a letdown of a song.

"One Eighty By Summer" is probably my second favorite track on the album. The first minute and a half is painful to listen to, the song structure is normal and the key/guitar/notes are just plain awful and the lyrics are subpar. However, the breakdown and ending of the song remind me of the days when this band had members with talent, a nice buildup and explosion at the end, good production on layered vocals. Nothing outstanding, however on this disc, it sounds pretty good.

The next two songs drag through, with the introduction to "Number Five With A Bullet" making me wonder if the band could have written these songs in keys that Lazzara's voice could actually hit. Throughout the album, he seems uninterested, almost as if he knows he's singing the next big emo disaster.

And now, the grand finale. "...Slowdance On The Inside." When I first listened to this, my reaction was, "Wait, I've heard this before." Most people who saw the band live before the infamous break up might remember this as a faster paced, harder hitting song (a live mp3 was leaked on Kazaa, go find it if you can.) This slowed down, almost perverse version is still the standout track on the disc. It's obvious Nolan's musical ability came into play here, as the overall orchestration of the song is on par with old TBS; catchy, poppy, with a bit of an edge and a fantastic ending. However, the lyrics seem to be ripping from Brand New, something that was probably a Nolan influence as well.

Suffice to say, I am extremely disappointed with this album, but somehow not surprised by the total lack of originality, talent, or even decency. The writing took a complete nose dive, the music is strained, but still radio ready, and even the artwork is amateurish. Skip this one, folks.



People who liked this also liked:
My Chemical Romance - Three Cheers For Sweet RevengeHawthorne Heights - If Only You Were LonelyFall Out Boy - From Under The Cork TreeTaking Back Sunday - Tell All Your FriendsThe Used - In Love And DeathUnderoath - They're Only Chasing SafetyFall Out Boy - Take This to Your GravePanic! At the Disco - A Fever You Can't Sweat OutTaking Back Sunday - Louder NowFrom First to Last - Heroine



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    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 1, 2006 at 9:16 PM (EDT)

    this is good album, and if you think about it the lyrics actually are very good. first of all tell all your friends was actually written by nolan and lazzara who got togethor with lacey and came up with ideas for songs then went and took them and made them into their own thing. thats why you notice huge similaritys in lyrics. on tayf and your favorite weopon. then from what iv gathered lazzara thought michelle nolan (who he was dating) was being really mean and controllive and cheated on her. he told lacey who he thought he could trust. lacey went straight to nolan who told michelle who broke up with adam and wanted john to quit the band, who was split on the decision until lacey intervened and told him to quit and start something new. so him and shawn went since they had written songs that werent suited for tbs anyway and then straylight run blah blah blah. and when you look at it most of the songs on this album and some on the new one could really back this story up. just like in there's no i in team where nolan took lyrics from brand new lazzara does the same thing to catch their attention. including playing soco amaretto lime and half step higher and taking the lyrics and changing them a little bit to catch lacey and nolans attention. i would think the most obvious are bonus mosh to michelle, the union goes to the friendship between lacey and nolan and alot of others,looking at it this way the lyrics make way better sense.from the new album, whats it feel like to be a ghost basicly saying, what it feel like to not be famous anymore nolan, liar refers to them all as choir boys which is also a familiar line, make damn sure is a reply to brand news okay i belive you but my tommy gun dont (which disses lazzara hard) switching the lyric ' i am all you ever wanted (brand new) to ' you are everything i want bc you are everything im not' (tbs) also the song existentialism on prom night is most likely talking to lazzara saying 'sing what you think nooone is listing, and sing me something soft sad and delicate or loud and out of key..' which would explain while this album is softer compared to tayf and then louder now is obviosly louder. that is what iv picked up reading forums and ect. tbs is way more skilled then you givve them credit for. just listen to most of brand new straylight run and tbss music.

    and if you want proof their is hate go to brand news merch shop and check out the shirt that reads ' bc mics are for singing not swinging' an obvios insult to lazarras stage presence and tbs shirt ' proudly swinging since 1999'

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 1, 2006 at 9:16 PM (EDT)

    this is good album, and if you think about it the lyrics actually are very good. first of all tell all your friends was actually written by nolan and lazzara who got togethor with lacey and came up with ideas for songs then went and took them and made them into their own thing. thats why you notice huge similaritys in lyrics. on tayf and your favorite weopon. then from what iv gathered lazzara thought michelle nolan (who he was dating) was being really mean and controllive and cheated on her. he told lacey who he thought he could trust. lacey went straight to nolan who told michelle who broke up with adam and wanted john to quit the band, who was split on the decision until lacey intervened and told him to quit and start something new. so him and shawn went since they had written songs that werent suited for tbs anyway and then straylight run blah blah blah. and when you look at it most of the songs on this album and some on the new one could really back this story up. just like in there's no i in team where nolan took lyrics from brand new lazzara does the same thing to catch their attention. including playing soco amaretto lime and half step higher and taking the lyrics and changing them a little bit to catch lacey and nolans attention. i would think the most obvious are bonus mosh to michelle, the union goes to the friendship between lacey and nolan and alot of others,looking at it this way the lyrics make way better sense.from the new album, whats it feel like to be a ghost basicly saying, what it feel like to not be famous anymore nolan, liar refers to them all as choir boys which is also a familiar line, make damn sure is a reply to brand news okay i belive you but my tommy gun dont (which disses lazzara hard) switching the lyric ' i am all you ever wanted (brand new) to ' you are everything i want bc you are everything im not' (tbs) also the song existentialism on prom night is most likely talking to lazzara saying 'sing what you think nooone is listing, and sing me something soft sad and delicate or loud and out of key..' which would explain while this album is softer compared to tayf and then louder now is obviosly louder. that is what iv picked up reading forums and ect. tbs is way more skilled then you givve them credit for. just listen to most of brand new straylight run and tbss music.

    and if you want proof their is hate go to brand news merch shop and check out the shirt that reads ' bc mics are for singing not swinging' an obvios insult to lazarras stage presence and tbs shirt ' proudly swinging since 1999'

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 1, 2006 at 9:16 PM (EDT)

    this is good album, and if you think about it the lyrics actually are very good. first of all tell all your friends was actually written by nolan and lazzara who got togethor with lacey and came up with ideas for songs then went and took them and made them into their own thing. thats why you notice huge similaritys in lyrics. on tayf and your favorite weopon. then from what iv gathered lazzara thought michelle nolan (who he was dating) was being really mean and controllive and cheated on her. he told lacey who he thought he could trust. lacey went straight to nolan who told michelle who broke up with adam and wanted john to quit the band, who was split on the decision until lacey intervened and told him to quit and start something new. so him and shawn went since they had written songs that werent suited for tbs anyway and then straylight run blah blah blah. and when you look at it most of the songs on this album and some on the new one could really back this story up. just like in there's no i in team where nolan took lyrics from brand new lazzara does the same thing to catch their attention. including playing soco amaretto lime and half step higher and taking the lyrics and changing them a little bit to catch lacey and nolans attention. i would think the most obvious are bonus mosh to michelle, the union goes to the friendship between lacey and nolan and alot of others,looking at it this way the lyrics make way better sense.from the new album, whats it feel like to be a ghost basicly saying, what it feel like to not be famous anymore nolan, liar refers to them all as choir boys which is also a familiar line, make damn sure is a reply to brand news okay i belive you but my tommy gun dont (which disses lazzara hard) switching the lyric ' i am all you ever wanted (brand new) to ' you are everything i want bc you are everything im not' (tbs) also the song existentialism on prom night is most likely talking to lazzara saying 'sing what you think nooone is listing, and sing me something soft sad and delicate or loud and out of key..' which would explain while this album is softer compared to tayf and then louder now is obviosly louder. that is what iv picked up reading forums and ect. tbs is way more skilled then you givve them credit for. just listen to most of brand new straylight run and tbss music.

    and if you want proof their is hate go to brand news merch shop and check out the shirt that reads ' bc mics are for singing not swinging' an obvios insult to lazarras stage presence and tbs shirt ' proudly swinging since 1999'

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 24, 2006 at 6:57 PM (EDT)
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    alls im gonna say is tbs rock ass and matt who plays bass is one friggen HOTTIE! and he knows he loves me. k bye

    TBS ROCK!

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 24, 2006 at 6:53 PM (EDT)

    i love taking back sunday to death and i would do anything to meet them and i think their music is the best and they are my favorite band so all TBS haters you need to go get checked..in the the begining i wasnt into like the music that they play now i was into that like rap shit an now i hate it and i would never trade TBS for any other band cause they rock and they are my friggen idols =)

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 at 9:35 PM (EST)
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    I personally dont know too much about singing "in tune" or sounding perfect when singing, so I dont really care how their voices sounded because the lyrics are what grabs my attention. I loved this CD and I also loved " Tell all your friends" too...Taking Back Sunday is my all time favorite band and I wouldnt change anything about them. Im a girl, but I love Adams hair, so Im cutting it like his tomorrow..I cant wait. At first I didnt really like or understand their music, but the more closely I listened to it and the more I understood the lyrics the more I came to admire and respect Taking Back Sunday...So...Good luck Taking Back Sunday, I hope in the future you guys will become a rock legend!!!! ~abbie

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 at 9:34 PM (EST)
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    I personally dont know too much about singing "in tune" or sounding perfect when singing, so I dont really care how their voices sounded because the lyrics are what grabs my attention. I loved this CD and I also loved " Tell all your friends" too...Taking Back Sunday is my all time favorite band and I wouldnt change anything about them. Im a girl, but I love Adams hair, so Im cutting it like his tomorrow..I cant wait. At first I didnt really like or understand their music, but the more closely I listened to it and the more I understood the lyrics the more I came to admire and respect Taking Back Sunday...So...Good luck Taking Back Sunday, I hope in the future you guys will become a rock legend!!!! ~abbie

    Posted by sk8rchic on 2006-02-01 17:58:12
    My Score:

    love the little kids butt. anyways this cd rocked but it got broke in my stero when it got knocked over. a friend got me to listen to them and now i can't syop listening to them.

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2005-07-25 13:28:29

    another dumbass review

    Another dumbass!

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 21, 2005 at 4:34 PM (EDT)
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    another dumbass review

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2005-05-19 10:29:56
    My Score:

    Whiny vocals = Suck

    Decent vocals = Ok

    More Whiny, Less Singing = Suck

    Do the math...

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 7, 2005 at 4:00 PM (EDT)

    john left the band because adam cheated on his sister michelle, and then he got shaun to come, and origianlly mark to, mark recorded the drums for the demo but then decided to stay in tbs. adam is a heroine addict, and a total moron, he forgot his "roots" (hes not really from the 516). he is a total loser and a shame to our scene. all i know is that one day the original tbs lineup will come back and play at the local 7.
    eddie, mark, jesse lacey, john nolan. and antonio

    .516.for.life.

    AV

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 8, 2005 at 11:46 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    mediocre at best

    Posted by Patio on 2005-02-14 15:25:12
    My Score:

    taking black sunday back* isnt all that grood. Lyrics suck they blow there repatative and very very very boring. they have no grood guitar riffs noo hard anything. noo groo dbreak downs

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 11, 2005 at 1:15 PM (EST)
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    TBS needs musical talent and orginalness. and not look like a retard on stage. In liek all there popular songs they say "wishful Thinkers" in three of the 3 songs i was listening to. how he clamps up and bends over and looks like a idiot and that kind of music is boring sorry i dont liek boring music theres nothing to be noticed

    Posted by literature on 2005-01-28 16:35:00
    My Score:

    a letdown if you have "tell all your friends". if not, your expectations may not be as high and you'll probably like it

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 7, 2005 at 9:54 PM (EST)
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    ok, lets think. hmm.... new taking back sunday has complete ownage over the old album, even though i own and love both. the new bass player, matt, is about 2935075892694875 times better than shaun, and fred, is a fuckin amazing musician in general. yea, adam lazzara cant sing, but neither can geoff rickly of thursday. think about it. YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON.
    DerRanGeD DuGgiE

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 at 11:38 PM (EST)
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    Whomever it is that mistankingly gave this genious album a negative review is rediculously wrong and should be fired.
    Taking Back Sunday rock sooooo much both on their 1st album and most definitely on this one.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 3, 2004 at 6:35 PM (EST)
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    I think that this Cd's release was a little to hyped up.

    As everyone already knows, john nolan was in taking back sunday, and co-wrote the songs on tell all your friends, and when john nolan left everyone said taking back sunday was a sinking ship and john nolan was the only thing that had held it together with his oh so wonderful wrighting skills.

    Well now that they have both let out their new CDs i can safely say that taking back sunday did fine without john, and this CD was overrhyped because the lyrics didnt have the complexity i thought they would.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 24, 2004 at 9:54 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    I seem to be one of the only ones that enjoys this album.

    Although i do agree that john nolan made taking back sunday and they have slightly lost their touch without him.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 12:08 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Wow, TBS fans are complete idiots. That's fine; we'll need lots of people to clean our public institutions once the spics, chinks, and japs are shipped back to where they belong.

    -sickboi

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 25, 2004 at 10:45 PM (EDT)
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    Although I agree that the lyrics on this album are repetitive, the songs slower, and that "New American Classic" is just embarassing, there are still some undeniably phenomenal aspects to this album as well. There are still plenty of intuitive, poetic lines and singing from the gut/heart, from Adam at least-- even if it is off key, shouldn't it be when you're screaming with real emotion? But I really don't like Fred's empty vocals, and the fire between singers that there was on the first album is definitely gone. Still.......I can't help but like this album.....a lot.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 at 8:10 PM (EDT)
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    whoever is writing bad shit about this album is just a jackass who has nothing better to do than to judge something they have no place to judge. i'd like to see your dumbasses get out there and try to make a decent album. in my opinion the album was great. so you all can kiss my ass and go find something else that is better to judge...assholes

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 11:32 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    great album...

    www.nineballrock.com

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 10:04 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    this site is trying so hard to be Pitchfork media, it's sad

    trying to act as such elitists and stuff

    bullshit

    get decent reviewers

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 at 4:38 PM (EDT)
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    granted, this band is a guilty pleasure of mine. Tell all your friends caught me singing songs in my head for almost two years now.It sucks that the original lineup is gone, but after listening to this new album its got the same appeal. Face it a band like tbs isnt going to put out a "white album" so ditch the idea of them ever really making it. But the songs are catchy and the flow is there. Just enjoy it like you did the last and zip it

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 9, 2004 at 5:11 PM (EDT)
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    Dude....as far as harsh criticism is concerned..I think your review about covers it! But I happen to think you are completely over looking the fact that this isnt meant to sound exactly like their old stuff!!
    I think this is an ace emo album...!

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 7, 2004 at 8:54 PM (EDT)
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    as this cd does have some repitition, it is a great cd. i think adam and fred complement each other better than adam and john(i will prob get hate mail for that). they took lyrics from brand new because those two bands have been fueding. to find out why go to songfacts.com and look up seventy times 7 by brand new. i love this new cd and saw them play an acoustic set in orlando. they rocked. adam and fred sound so well together. they have given me faith in music again.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 7, 2004 at 2:27 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    I still love these dudes. Cmon they rock.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 6, 2004 at 1:35 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    a good album or not, but it sold 180,000 copies on its first week...#3 on billboard, #1 UK

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 5, 2004 at 3:31 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    not really a great album, its something that will get old after a while. dont spend your money on this unless your really into this kind of music. i agree with the review, its definatly repetative and hes right about the little equation. o well, i guess if you like it you like it and if you dont, please stop telling the people that do like it that they are idiots. who cares if they have different taste in music.

    Posted by colin on 2004-08-02 15:28:09
    My Score:

    i think 'anonymous' is 12.

    Posted by FortyMinutesWest on 2004-08-02 14:53:17
    My Score:

    God, this band certainly brings out the intellectual elite.

    Posted by FortyMinutesWest on 2004-08-02 14:52:27
    My Score:

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 2, 2004 at 2:51 PM (EDT)
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    to my friend colin...it seems that u dont have nothing to do other that post messages on this forum....Come on dude, go do something...suck ur dick, go to church and find peace on yourself, or go lick john nolan's balls...whatever.
    by they way, i dont think slowdance on the inside has something to do with Socco Amaretto Lime, sundays best or schools clothes??...even if they took those parts from brand new, they know each other....and if u havent realize, some of Tell All Your Friends songs has parts from other bands, like northstar and even brand new too..... and whats the deal? you loved TAYF....people is so full of shit, talking crap about tbs and im sure ur probably singing cute without the e...SAD, and collin dont write back, cuz i wont read it

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 2, 2004 at 2:26 PM (EDT)
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    i cant believe all i was reading. I agree that this country is free and that u can say whatever u want, but theres a big difference between liberty of opinion and IGNORANCE, cuz thats what im seeing on some people here. I dont know why some people is saying that tbs is nothin without john nolan....and i dont know if u have heard straylight run songs....VERY DEPRESSING AND SAD, i was expecting more from john cuz i really liked his style but wow his new songs are really shit, and sorry to the people that seems to be in love with him, but its true. You CANT compara Tell All Your Friends with Where You Want To Be, cuz theres no sense on that cuz are totally different albums..i would say Tell All YOur friends is a TEENAGER CLASSIC POETRY and Where You want be is something different..you listen to it and u wonder, What that lyrics means???mmm u have to make ur own conclusion.
    This album was what i was expecting from tbs, MATURITY and a lot of feeling to it. AND IF U THINK THIS ALBUM IS REALLY BAD, LETS JUST WAIT TO SEE THE SALES, cuz that wont lie...most of the people whos buying the cd, they did hear the songs before cuz they were on kazaa 2 months ago..soo, i feel sorry for all the people who dont appreciate good music and that only like to talk shit. I love TBS and they're the shit......and also theyre amazing and nice people.
    LaterSS. Alex HErnandez, LA CAlifornia (alky85@hotmail.com)

    Posted by colin on 2004-08-01 18:51:17
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    Why are you rating and commenting on an album you haven't even taken the time to listen to? That's like going to a nation that has a different form of society and ripping the place apart because you've never lived in that way... are you the president?

    although... accurate as an analogy, you're blowing it way out of proportion. a bad pop album and going to war with a country? come on... that's a ridiculously huge gap.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 1, 2004 at 4:12 PM (EDT)
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    This comment is a retort to the guy who gave it a one and said "I'm not even listening to it."

    Why are you rating and commenting on an album you haven't even taken the time to listen to? That's like going to a nation that has a different form of society and ripping the place apart because you've never lived in that way... are you the president?

    Posted by colin on 2004-08-01 02:26:24
    My Score:

    You can't use the word punk anymore to define a band. It changed so much from anarchy to NFG. Yes, everyband is trying to make money, other wise they would just gather and play for themselves and have a few friends over.

    you're right, i wasn't trying to define taking back sunday, of all bands, as punk.

    what i was trying to do is say that there are bands out there that don't care as much about money (i mean, bad religion is a good example...) that are still trying to create a change, to take the roots of what punk was founded on and use it for good. bands like this are obviously in it for the money, as everyone does have to make a living. however, some are willing to sacrifice their own potential lifestyle to deliver a message which they think is important, which is the admirable part of punk's roots.

    Posted by TrainWreck on 2004-07-31 19:12:04
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    I hate how peoples opinions are biased because of expectations they had. If you had never heard Tell All Your Friends, and than heard this you would LOVE it. I do agree that it is much worse than tell all your friends but that is not how I would rate it. I am comparing it to other emo/pop punk albums of the time and it isn't too bad.

    I'll probably still be listening to it for a month or so... But I will admit it shall be old by than.

    Posted by thriceequalsgod on 2004-07-31 17:01:46
    My Score:

    Im using caps! do i sound cool now too???

    Posted by FortyMinutesWest on 2004-07-31 14:58:44
    My Score:

    How does signing up for a user name amount to any sort of accountablity?

    Posted by pinkpineapples on 2004-07-31 10:00:06
    My Score:

    You know, I find it fucked up that, most of you have don't have the balls to post your name, it's all "anonymously" posted. If your gonna bitch about the band, what-ever freedom of speach, but at least don't be so retarded as to hide, just so no one can tell you to fuck off back.

    All the TBS fans, hang in there! With the good comes the bad

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 31, 2004 at 12:46 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    FUCK U ALL WHO THINK TAKING BACK SUNDAY ARE STILL NOT GOOD......take awayt john nolan leaving and act like this is taking back's 1st cd.........hmmmm......i would think fuck this band is goood......and if u wouldt your lying!

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 31, 2004 at 12:28 AM (EDT)
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    "go the fuck back to wherever you came from asswipe. it's fuckheads like you that ruin music, punk, and everything that the ethos of do it yourself and not for profit but for social change stand for."
    You can't use the word punk anymore to define a band. It changed so much from anarchy to NFG. Yes, everyband is trying to make money, other wise they would just gather and play for themselves and have a few friends over.

    Posted by colin on 2004-07-30 22:27:52
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    man fuck u all, hating a band just because their popularity has gone up. quit hating on them.....they earned this shit by all their hardwork and shit. isn't the main goal of starting a fucken band to get rich? you all can go to hell fucken fags.

    this has to be the worst comment ever in the history of comments on a 'punk' site.

    go the fuck back to wherever you came from asswipe. it's fuckheads like you that ruin music, punk, and everything that the ethos of do it yourself and not for profit but for social change stand for.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 9:05 PM (EDT)
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    Does talent > sound? Or does Sound > talent.
    Adam's voice isn't perfect but how can you judge it when we all listen to some bands that scream? If you want a great voice go to the record store and buy some Diana Ross and stop listening to "punk."
    Stop saying I could write a better album and go do it. Music isn't easy neither is having you guitar/ back up singer and bassist leave and still come out bring the heat that TBS did.
    Swallow your pride your "expert opinion" and you bullshit and listen to this cd.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 8:58 PM (EDT)
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    " they took lyrics from brand new because those two bands have been fueding."

    You need to step back find out what you are talking about. These kids were friends they wrote their debut albums together. If you knew anything Rufio/TBS toured together you know who they took along? their good friends Brand new.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 5:38 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    guy below me. shut up and go back to absolutepunk.net not every band do it for the big bucks.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 5:34 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    man fuck u all, hating a band just because their popularity has gone up. quit hating on them.....they earned this shit by all their hardwork and shit. isn't the main goal of starting a fucken band to get rich? you all can go to hell fucken fags.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 5:07 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    "as this cd does have some repitition, it is a great cd. i think adam and fred complement each other better than adam and john(i will prob get hate mail for that). they took lyrics from brand new because those two bands have been fueding. to find out why go to songfacts.com and look up seventy times 7 by brand new. i love this new cd and saw them play an acoustic set in orlando. they rocked. adam and fred sound so well together. they have given me faith in music again."

    if this is your faith, then you're deffinately going to hell.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 4:39 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    hey kid, everyone here knows about 70x7, quit acting like you know shit you tit fuck.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 4:26 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    as this cd does have some repitition, it is a great cd. i think adam and fred complement each other better than adam and john(i will prob get hate mail for that). they took lyrics from brand new because those two bands have been fueding. to find out why go to songfacts.com and look up seventy times 7 by brand new. i love this new cd and saw them play an acoustic set in orlando. they rocked. adam and fred sound so well together. they have given me faith in music again.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 4:16 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Eddie Reyes does coke and picks his ass.

    Posted by colin on 2004-07-30 15:36:06
    My Score:

    I dont know if everyone here is listening to the same album, cause i dont see how you could give it less than perfect.

    i'd like to know how old you are.

    no offense, but at 21 i had my pop punk years during high school and even then i would have seen through this shit.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 2:58 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    "if i want auto-tuned vocals i can listen to a britney spears record."
    alot of bands use pro-tools, it happens.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 2:38 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    I dont know if everyone here is listening to the same album, cause i dont see how you could give it less than perfect.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 12:47 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    ed reyes started mind over matter

    Posted by mikeinflames on 2004-07-30 10:28:13
    My Score:

    if i wanted to hear from an asshole i'd fart

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 9:56 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    after seeing this band live, there was no need to purchase the album. if i want auto-tuned vocals i can listen to a britney spears record. and at least she realizes she has an awful voice and lip sincs live. i think adam should sport a microphone head set and do the same. the sounds that man produces hurts my ears. the lyrics are just dumb too.

    Posted by crossed_out on 2004-07-30 06:02:06
    My Score:

    this band is horrible.

    Posted by jonUSC on 2004-07-30 03:32:56
    My Score:

    Hey

    I think TBS may have been onto something with "Tell All Your Friends", aside from the cheesy title. Their new ways may be different but must people be so negative to a band that's merely made a change to their members and sound? In regard to the post that read bands like The Beatles and The Stones blew, go jump out of a bus.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 30, 2004 at 2:55 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    If everyone would readeach others posts more careful we`d have more of an understanding here ... but only time can tell the place of WYWTB ... and ye, somehow TBS borrowed a lot of elements from past bands like Lifetime, but every band does ... and could there be a better band to steal from ;-)) ...

    Posted by inagreendase on 2004-07-30 01:46:48
    My Score:

    "TBS did not borrow anything from OTMOP, they just ripped off Lifetime."

    First, we heard a huge gang of support for this album.

    Then we heard from the same person about how Kid Dynamite sucks and Taking Back Sunday is good, especially when based on the merits of this album?

    Now Taking Back Sunday rips off Lifetime?

    Come on, the Twilight Zone doesn't come up with shit like this.

    Posted by thriceequalsgod on 2004-07-30 00:30:08
    My Score:

    sorry I'm tired. I meant "explain how i contradict myself"

    Posted by thriceequalsgod on 2004-07-30 00:28:28
    My Score:

    get a user name, explain how, then come back and talk to me.

    I never said anything more than i liked TAYF, This album sucks, and it has a few catchy songs that could have been written better. fuck you.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 11:50 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    to thie kid a few post below who mentioned silent majority gets mad prop for even mentioning them, but i have to say that you're wrong about other LI bands ripping off SM, actually they all ripped off Mind Over Matter including SM.

    As for this album I can't get enough of it. It fucking rocks. Every song is good on this album. Once again again TBS proved us all that they can still kick everyone's ass.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 11:18 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    i hate pop bands with instruments too.

    the fucking beatles and rolling stones blew. GOD! i wish they'd never form, then music would really have taken off...

    oh wait.

    Posted by theevilmonkey on 2004-07-29 22:58:58
    My Score:

    I took a shit today and was surprised to find this album sitting in my toilet.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 8:47 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    on the might of princes is nothing like any of the other long island bands. silent majority is the epitome of the long island sound, that bands like glassjaw, the movielife, taking back sunday and brand new all took pieces from.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 8:04 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    You all are silly ^__^

    Music has always been like this and will always be like this

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 7:10 PM (EDT)
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    what i was trying to get across is that bands like otmop perfected that sound that long island has become famous for. But what TBS and bands like brand new did was capitalize it and make it a pop style...demeriting it and giving LI music a bad name....

    sucks

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 7:04 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    "this is a rip off of an older long island band's cd. "On the might of princes" had an album called, "where you are and where you want to be"...I have read interview and know personally that Taking Back Sunday were peers of OTMOP. The only problem is that OTMOP had the intense sound that taking back sunday wishes they had, they took OTMOP's sound and destroyed it with overcommercialized scream/sing structure that is way too produced to seem sincere. "

    what the FUCK are you talking about? yes, TBS and OTMOP were contemporaries up until the recent OTMOP European tour, when the band could no longer go on. and yes, it is probably no coincidence that the title of the new TBS record is strikingly similar to that of the amazing "where you are and where you want to be" record of OTMOP, but there is no musical comparison to be made between the two. TBS did not borrow anything from OTMOP, they just ripped off Lifetime.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 4:08 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Pop Bands with instruments suck

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 3:52 PM (EDT)
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    What's sad is being from Long Island and being around this entire music scene it sucks how oversaturated and commercialized it has become.

    A)this is a rip off of an older long island band's cd. "On the might of princes" had an album called, "where you are and where you want to be"...I have read interview and know personally that Taking Back Sunday were peers of OTMOP. The only problem is that OTMOP had the intense sound that taking back sunday wishes they had, they took OTMOP's sound and destroyed it with overcommercialized scream/sing structure that is way too produced to seem sincere.

    This is a call to anyone who is in a band that has an respect for a scene or movement, respect it. Participate in it and take pieces from it and make it your own, but do NOT rip things off and continue to push the envelope, its the only way a scene or new style of music can retain morals and respectability.

    Same goes for Brand New, they couldnt even sell out Long Island before they got signed, and that was their hometown...its stupid how bands are getting gobbled up for no reason when there are plenty of bands with kick ass music and morals to go with it...

    and dont get me wrong, i was a huge tbs fan from back in the day when I had their demo tapes, but this CD fails to push the envelope and to me it seems as if they are going in the same direction as Dashboard and cashing in for the buck...it wont be long until we see TBS participating in "emo to go" ad's for Civics just like Chris from Dashboard.

    -Happy Rocking
    jason

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 2:53 PM (EDT)
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    "thanks for the intelligent feedback. Buuut i was also trying to refer to them as a 'new' band, something different than TBS w/ Nolan; also trying to not compare this to TAYF"

    in that case, i have 6 pros and 4 cons, just subtract out the ones that referred to tayf and John. If you take this album on its own, disregarding their last album and lineup, its a really really fucking good cd.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 1:45 PM (EDT)
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    It is really sad that you all just jump on the "this sucks" bandwagon. If the reveiw rocked you'd all agree. and you sit there and compare them to other bands... I've never actually heard of something so stupid and immature. The album is fuckin well produced and the new members definitely add to the band. There is no way you can deny that. You're all just a bunch of punks who are pissed off that you liked a band that actually broke through and will inevitably become popular. Stop being suck a bunch of highschool children and stop hating. The album is awesome and you all know it.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 1:43 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    oops i hit the post button and forgot to see what i was talking about, damn it i hate it when that happens.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 1:43 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    everyone is giving john nolen way way way too much credit, you are all acting like the band was him and it by far wasn't. the only thing he can do better than fred was scream and he barely even did that on tayf. as long as they are happy with what they made what the fuck does it matter. its not like they really give a shit about any of our opinions to begin with. and thriceequalsgod yeah um, you have been contradicting yourself pretty much the entire time. so yeah just stop talking.

    Posted by thriceequalsgod on 2004-07-29 13:36:51
    My Score:

    "thriceequalsgod you keep contradicting yourself. you are a fucking douche bag. you are all "i hate them" "well they aren't too bad" "i guess they are good just different" dude just shut the hell up. where you want to be is right up there with tell all your friends. it sucks that i can only give it a 10."

    please, for the sake of your own image: make sure you know what youre talking about before you press that "Post" button.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 1:36 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    these dudes were never good. It was just Victory's way of filling in the space THursaday left.

    If you EVER listened to this shit you are a number one PUSSY!

    Posted by theevilmonkey on 2004-07-29 13:32:18
    My Score:

    I love people who say that if this cd wasn't released by Taking Back Sunday, everybody would give it great reviews. It's a bad cd. Plain as that.

    And this band didn't try to do anything different, that's the whole problem. They didn't try to evolve on this cd. Don't kid yourself. They just did a really bad job pretending they still had John Nolan.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 1:31 PM (EDT)
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    fna buddy, it is a great album. the only song i didn't like is i am fred astaire. i don't know why, i just can't get into that song.
    but no one really says anything about that one so it may just be me, but i can listen to it but i can't get into it, and thriceequalsgod you keep contradicting yourself. you are a fucking douche bag. you are all "i hate them" "well they aren't too bad" "i guess they are good just different" dude just shut the hell up. where you want to be is right up there with tell all your friends. it sucks that i can only give it a 10.

    Posted by thriceequalsgod on 2004-07-29 13:01:43
    My Score:

    "pros
    1.new singer guy has a good voice, probably technically better than Nolan's but not as poingnant.
    2. songs are still very catchy
    3. the outtro's/vocal overlapping is very well done, i think Adams voice is just as good.
    4. sorry, but I think 'new american classic' is a great song
    5. set phasers to stun, i know you know, the last song, 180 by summer all rule
    6. still some very good lyrics in certain songs (little devontional comes to mind)
    7. put out a solid sophmore effort despite all thats happned to them and all the hype/drama surrounding them and their first album.

    cons
    1.overproduced but i've heard worse (blink for example)
    2.lyrics lack slightly
    3.the single is a bit toooo radio friendly, almost conciously, however 'whos says you'll have to go, i could go all night' is a great line
    4.missing Nolans desparate, poingant (sp) vocals
    5. not quite as passionate.
    6.#5 w/ a bullet is kinda boring, maybe their worst song.
    7. too repetitive at times."

    thanks for the intelligent feedback. Buuut i was also trying to refer to them as a 'new' band, something different than TBS w/ Nolan; also trying to not compare this to TAYF

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 12:47 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    " singing and the background singing: they intermix way too much and u have no idea who to listen to which equals a total lack of coherence "

    i can follow it just fine. maybe you should smoke a bowl first.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 12:46 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    pros
    1.new singer guy has a good voice, probably technically better than Nolan's but not as poingnant.
    2. songs are still very catchy
    3. the outtro's/vocal overlapping is very well done, i think Adams voice is just as good.
    4. sorry, but I think 'new american classic' is a great song
    5. set phasers to stun, i know you know, the last song, 180 by summer all rule
    6. still some very good lyrics in certain songs (little devontional comes to mind)
    7. put out a solid sophmore effort despite all thats happned to them and all the hype/drama surrounding them and their first album.

    cons
    1.overproduced but i've heard worse (blink for example)
    2.lyrics lack slightly
    3.the single is a bit toooo radio friendly, almost conciously, however 'whos says you'll have to go, i could go all night' is a great line
    4.missing Nolans desparate, poingant (sp) vocals
    5. not quite as passionate.
    6.#5 w/ a bullet is kinda boring, maybe their worst song.
    7. too repetitive at times.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 12:38 PM (EDT)
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    the singing and the background singing: they intermix way too much and u have no idea who to listen to which equals a total lack of coherence

    -fuckuaurora

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 11:46 AM (EDT)
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    I agree with the fact that this cd is not as good as Tell All Your Friends, but to say it sucks is just wrong. I'm a huge fan of Taking Back Sunday, I saw them when they played with Blink-182 and sadly, Cypress Hill. They put on an awesome energetic show. Their second cd, Where You Want To Be, is a lot different then what I expected, but that's a good thing. It would be boring if they were the same. So I like the cd. But hey, that's my opinion listen to the cd yourself and form your own.

    Posted by thriceequalsgod on 2004-07-29 11:44:15
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    well i was being sarcastic, because im pretty sure that he was actually serious. I actually laughed out loud at it, too, because it had to be one of the most cliche responses imaginable

    Posted by sickboi on 2004-07-29 11:38:53
    My Score:

    THRICEEQUALSGOD:

    You gave my prestigious award to that? Please don't insult me. That shit sounds like it was written by a 14 year old.

    Oh yeah, I hear this band LOVES the cock.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 11:18 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Can this band's drummer not keep time or something? Live he plays like three times the speed of the rest of the band.

    Posted by thriceequalsgod on 2004-07-29 11:04:03
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    Pros
    1) "Bonus Mosh Pt. II", "The Union" and "Set Phasers To Stun" are all catchy songs with a taste of what the current band can accomplish. Although the lyrics aren't anything special, the songwriting is above par with the rest of the album.
    2) Style change from TAYF (even though this is a different band, as this has been stressed)

    Cons
    1) Overproduced
    2) Adam Lazzarra's voice cracking repetitively
    3) Repetitive lyrics
    4) Unimaginative lyrics
    5) "New American Classic" -with its violins and xylophones (It just doesn't work).
    6)

    Posted by thriceequalsgod on 2004-07-29 11:03:00
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    I'd actually like to weigh the pros and cons of this album. Copy and paste the following into your comment, adding another number to either list, but if the argument is not a valid one, it will be disregarded.

    Pros
    1) "Bonus Mosh Pt. II", "The Union" and "Set Phasers To Stun" are all catchy songs with a taste of what the current band can accomplish. Although the lyrics aren't anything special, the songwriting is above par with the rest of the album.
    2)

    Cons
    1) Overproduced
    2) Adam Lazzarra's voice cracking repetitively
    3) Repetitive lyrics
    4) Unimaginative lyrics
    5) "New American Classic" -with its violins and xylophones (It just doesn't work).
    6)

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 9:53 AM (EDT)
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    i have been looking forward to this album since the date was set for it to come out. to all you close minded fucks, come outside your box and think expand. which is exactly what tbs did on this album. you all want no change at all in the music industry you are all lost in hell. i was not at all disappointed by this album. so they tried something different, if you don't like the band because they aren't your taste its one thing, but to start disliking them because they went a different angle on this album is just fucking retarded. and as far as repetition goes they are just as repetitious on the tell all your friends. and there are a lot of emo punk bands that have an acoustic song that is far far worse than "new american classic" i really think it is a good song, there are a lot of meaning amd emotion in the lyrics and the acoustic solo is a great "doodle" on the acoustic strings. this is a great album.

    Posted by thriceequalsgod on 2004-07-29 09:51:45
    My Score:

    okay, okay.. last one

    "Taking Back Sunday - Where You Want To Be
    Posted by Anonymous on 2004-07-28 02:25:24
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    I give it a fucking 10. I give it a fucking 10 because you're all fucking morons. First off, Emo/Screamo singers aren't supposed to sound like fucking good singers, thats the point of the genre you fucking idiots. Second, who the fuck cares if they took lyrics from Brand New, they're friends, they're allowed to. Third, it's fucking Taking Back Sunday, they're better then ALL the shit they play on MTV or any Radio station. Fourth, did I mention that you're all fucking morons? You pissants probably listen to fucking good charlotte."

    Comment of the Day. Hillarious.

    Posted by thriceequalsgod on 2004-07-29 09:44:44
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    "The same fuckers who are on here trashing this, ARE THE SAME FUCKERS WHO SUCKED TBS dicks' when they were on top. You deserve to revel in your shame for wasting your time on this shit. Now Lifetime that is a band."

    Well when they were on top, they had just put out a well written, catchy album. Anyone who liked TAYF before won't dislike it now...

    "Fuck the title names of the songs, fuck how Tell All Your Friends sounds, fuck the cover art (for fuck sake), and fuck all you motherfuckers for claiming to have any idea what good music is.
    Taking Back Sunday has more talent than each and every one of you will ever imagine embodying.
    So, with all of this said, pull your lower lip back from the asshole of which your head has been occupying and smarten the fuck up."

    We never denied their talent, just their songwriting.. Why don't you pull your lower lip off TBS' dicks.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 9:42 AM (EDT)
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    you know what, to all those who believe so, tbs are sellouts. they sold out all shows last week, sold out all shows this week, and will probably sell out all shows next week. so calling them "sell outs" is more true than you think. and also how original would it be to be exactly the same as the last. with new members in the band it would be an insult and a slap in the face to jon and shaun to do the same as the first album. its not like they left on completely bad terms. where you want to be is an excellent album, no it isn't tell all your friends, but really did you expect it to be exactly the same. this album is great.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 9:37 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    I liked tbs last album. but it is like the singer lost all range in his voice. this just isn't good music. period!

    Posted by thriceequalsgod on 2004-07-29 09:36:43
    My Score:

    the review says it all.

    letdown of the year

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 8:58 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    "Taking Back Sunday? Talk about a faggot name for a band. Bunch of idiots trying to be all arty when really they're just lame fucks who love jacking off each other during band practice while listening to an emo CD on their cd player."

    whats wrong, did the singer fuck your sister or something?

    Posted by jacktheskipper on 2004-07-29 08:12:54
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    Idiots have had their say ... but perhaps you should all read the words of this old Gameface song:

    "hey mister punk rock been a scenester for a decade all it earned you was a headache and some bad tattoos hey kid what's in the backpack? are you planning to stay a while, or just until the new style fades? I know you wanna be different just like everybody else I know you want an alternative as long as it's been picked out for you. it's OK we've established the rules--you've got the clothes, the hair, the shoes and you've got holes in places that your Mom will never know. I know you're worried about selling out like everybody else. You try so hard to take it personal--just have fun, enjoy the show. you don't have to act like it's the end of the world you could have picked a better place to throw your attitude around. it's only music--what's the big deal?"

    Sums it up perfectly I think ... by the way, everyone bashing Kid Dynamite and praising TBS deserves to get spanked for days ;-)) ...

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 7:33 AM (EDT)
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    i think this review hits the nail on the head. definately overproduced and repetitive. palm muted verses and gang vocals which repeat themselves endlessly. but "bonus mosh II" is probably the worst song on the cd.

    i still love it.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 7:02 AM (EDT)
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    [quote]Kid Dynamite sucks. Your music sucks. Other poster has a point, the object of emo/screamo is not to have a good voice, Adam isn't a pop singer... he doesn't have to sound like Tom Delonge. His voice is amazingly terrible. That would be the point, it's raw and it sounds amazing with the music. So fuck off.[/quote]

    Your are such a fucking stupid idiot ... Tom Delonge`s voice is even worse, have you ever heard him sing live ... by the way: I didn`t have a point?!? Can`t you read?!? Are you retarded?!? I think a lot of people won`t like Kid Dynamite, that`s alright, it`s not everyone cup of coffee, but at least they had something like lyrics ;-)) ...

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 5:03 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    You fuckers really piss me off.
    A year ago I was bitching about these little hipsters. I called them pissing away Wednesday
    And a flame war soon ensued. Now! Oh look you little pricks seem to hate them. Go read buddy head you little pricks.
    I guess there is no accounting for taste.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 4:40 AM (EDT)
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    watched 'em on Kimmel the other night, because I have an on/off affinity for them, I never really like em, but I never really hate em. I saw them once with Nolan, and I thought they weren't all that bad, plus I was amused that he and I played eerily similar cheapo, made in Indonesia DeArmond guitars...

    Wait, where was I going? Oh yeah, Kimmel, they sucked on it. Damn repetitive chorus, and it's just not the same without Nolan's voice. Not to take anything away from the new guy, because he's got some degree in jazz guitar, but it's not the same.

    Posted by colin on 2004-07-29 03:03:24
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    Taking Back Sunday? Talk about a faggot name for a band. Bunch of idiots trying to be all arty when really they're just lame fucks who love jacking off each other during band practice while listening to an emo CD on their cd player.

    it's comments like that that totally take back from any arguement you could have posed.

    i might not have liked the cd, but bringing homophobia into it is not only horribly inhumane, but if you want to be cliche and elitist about it, it's also horribly not punk rock.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 2:07 AM (EDT)
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    No, it's not Tell All Your Friends.
    But few bands ever do the same thing twice.
    It's call progress, originality if you will.

    Number Five With a Bullet is not a rip off of anyone's song.
    That song title is incredibly common because many people are inspired by the movie High Fidelity.

    And as for the gentleman saying that Taking Back Sunday is a "faggot name for a band."
    Well, we're glad that your potty mouth was able to share an opinion,
    but we don't feel that your band, the Insand Clown Posse, is very good. At all.

    Rock on if you feel it.
    Fuck off if you don't.
    End of story.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 1:50 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Taking Back Sunday? Talk about a faggot name for a band. Bunch of idiots trying to be all arty when really they're just lame fucks who love jacking off each other during band practice while listening to an emo CD on their cd player.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 1:28 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Garbage, it is i wish there was a Zero so i could rate it that.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 1:04 AM (EDT)
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    If this was a cd from a band no one has ever heard of, it would be getting great reviews. It just doesn't sound at all like old TBS. Look at saves the day, SWYA was totally differnt from everything before it and everyone thought it sucked at first, but now everyone loves it. The same will happen with this.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 12:55 AM (EDT)
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    Oh yeah track 9 is a rip off of the song aurthur wrote... You suck tbs go steal more music from other bands

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 29, 2004 at 12:54 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    This cd sucks soooo bad! no wonder its under pop punk on a lot of sites... Ever since jon left they been sucking cock... Tbs=sellouts.. And i met adam before hes a real dick. Adam i hate you... Go write some more bad songs...

    Posted by dazed on 2004-07-29 00:51:23
    My Score:

    I don't want to hear this.

    Posted by Sellout05 on 2004-07-29 00:03:05
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    As many people believed "Where You Want to Be" was a dissapointment compared to "Tell All Your Friends" But who didn't see that coming? However that does not make it a bad record. The lyrics aren't as clever and the music is at a much slower pace, but "Where You Want to Be" is still pretty good. Songs that continue with TBS style would have to be tracks 2-5. Everything else is a B- at best. "Bonus Mosh pt.II" really gives Maschererino a chance to show his skills. Not many other songs on the record give him the chance other than to be backup vocals to Lazzara. There are no "Timberwolves @ NJ" or "Great Romances.." but oh well. Either way "Where You Want to Be" is not to be dismissed.

    Some songs to check out (if you haven't heard them already) that TBS recorded before the departure of Nolan/Cooper are "The Ballad of Sal Villanueva" that appeared on the Victory Comp. and "Your Own Disaster" that was on the Warped '03 Comp. Must have songs for the must have fan.

    Also TBS is needs alot of improvement live. On a disc it sounds great, but live there just not working together and it sounds like a bunch of noise till the chorus. I've seen them three times now. On the Takeover tour-first time and a big let down. The tour w/ Saves The Day-there only good show and Warped '04-waited 1 hour in the sun for nothing. They need to get there act together. Especially Lazzara (Mics are made for singing not swinging!)

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 at 11:30 PM (EDT)
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    yes guys it isnt better than tell all yourfreinds but its a decent album.......i mean we all knew the day would come when TBS would go mainstream...it happens to all the good bands....besides they are by no means an execptional band.........they just had exeptional lyrics with nolan

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 at 11:04 PM (EDT)
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    "When TBS lost Nolan Ryan, they lost the best fastball thrower the game has seen."

    haha amazing.

    Posted by theevilmonkey on 2004-07-28 22:59:11
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    Whatever happened to Ryan Phillippe, anyway?

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 at 10:09 PM (EDT)
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    I'm not listening to it.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 at 10:08 PM (EDT)
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    When TBS lost Nolan Ryan, they lost the best fastball thrower the game has seen.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 at 10:01 PM (EDT)
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    Haters and Lovers, alike - I know you're all listening to this CD.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 at 9:58 PM (EDT)
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    "Nolan, Nolan,Nolan you talk like he did everything in this band. You said the same thing that Nolan said about the musical structure of tbs in an interview he did in AP i think. That a good album same if your Nolan is not there."

    What fucking language is this?

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 at 9:25 PM (EDT)
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