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Taking Back Sunday

Taking Back Sunday: Where You Want To BeWhere You Want To Be (2004)
Victory Records

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Contributed by: colincolin
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It wasn't too long ago that I was thinking that Taking Back Sunday could do no wrong. A guilty pleasure of mine, their emo-post-popcore (or whatever you want to call it) sound struck a chord with me, and after being introduced to an advanced copy of "Tell All Your Friends," I was hooked. I saw them .
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It wasn't too long ago that I was thinking that Taking Back Sunday could do no wrong. A guilty pleasure of mine, their emo-post-popcore (or whatever you want to call it) sound struck a chord with me, and after being introduced to an advanced copy of "Tell All Your Friends," I was hooked. I saw them in concert a few times, enjoyed it all, thought they were a great band with amazing potential for taking the sound of early Saves The Day and driving it through the head with a hammer, bringing more edge and bite to it.

Enter the drama machine. Although the 'official' details are never released, guitarist/singer/songwriter John Nolan and bassist Shaun Cooper leave. I assume, at this point, the band is dead. I guess they proved me wrong... to some extent.

As it turns out, the band is very much alive and have produced a valiant sophomore effort with ex-members of Breaking Pangea attempting to fill in the gaping holes left in the lyrics and music. And I am using "attempting" very, very loosely.

The very first few seconds of the album scream of overproduction. While the production on "Tell All Your Friends" was noticable, it actually helped the dual vocals, equalizing them very well with the guitars and amazing drums. This time around, no such luck. The introductory track is a perfect mock up for what the rest of the album will contain: painfully bad, overly repetative lyrics trying too hard to be written by someone who did not write them ("Go on, just say it/You need me like a bad habit"), an overly obvious verse/chorus/verse/chorus/breakdown/chorus formula, poppy and radio-ready guitars which don't carry half the same melody and individuality as what they used to, and the often off key and some times just plain awful ("New American Classic") vocals of Adam Lazzara.

I will repeat this now, before the "Oh, you're biased" comments ensue... I was a huge fan of this band.

"Bonus Mosh Part 2" is one of the stronger tracks on the album, not falling too much into the failures of repetition and simplicity, with a unique duality of guitar work. Unfortunately, it's all downhill from there.

By the time the aforementioned "New American Classic" begins with an acoustic guitar, the album is already a simple formula, to which an intervention is needed. So, what better way than an acoustic, Dashboard Confessional-esque chart topper? Nice try. "New American Classic" has to be one of the worst songs I've ever heard, especially for the now booming acousticapellaemo genre. Such a bold title for such a letdown of a song.

"One Eighty By Summer" is probably my second favorite track on the album. The first minute and a half is painful to listen to, the song structure is normal and the key/guitar/notes are just plain awful and the lyrics are subpar. However, the breakdown and ending of the song remind me of the days when this band had members with talent, a nice buildup and explosion at the end, good production on layered vocals. Nothing outstanding, however on this disc, it sounds pretty good.

The next two songs drag through, with the introduction to "Number Five With A Bullet" making me wonder if the band could have written these songs in keys that Lazzara's voice could actually hit. Throughout the album, he seems uninterested, almost as if he knows he's singing the next big emo disaster.

And now, the grand finale. "...Slowdance On The Inside." When I first listened to this, my reaction was, "Wait, I've heard this before." Most people who saw the band live before the infamous break up might remember this as a faster paced, harder hitting song (a live mp3 was leaked on Kazaa, go find it if you can.) This slowed down, almost perverse version is still the standout track on the disc. It's obvious Nolan's musical ability came into play here, as the overall orchestration of the song is on par with old TBS; catchy, poppy, with a bit of an edge and a fantastic ending. However, the lyrics seem to be ripping from Brand New, something that was probably a Nolan influence as well.

Suffice to say, I am extremely disappointed with this album, but somehow not surprised by the total lack of originality, talent, or even decency. The writing took a complete nose dive, the music is strained, but still radio ready, and even the artwork is amateurish. Skip this one, folks.

 

 
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Anonymous (June 1, 2006)

this is good album, and if you think about it the lyrics actually are very good. first of all tell all your friends was actually written by nolan and lazzara who got togethor with lacey and came up with ideas for songs then went and took them and made them into their own thing. thats why you notice huge similaritys in lyrics. on tayf and your favorite weopon. then from what iv gathered lazzara thought michelle nolan (who he was dating) was being really mean and controllive and cheated on her. he told lacey who he thought he could trust. lacey went straight to nolan who told michelle who broke up with adam and wanted john to quit the band, who was split on the decision until lacey intervened and told him to quit and start something new. so him and shawn went since they had written songs that werent suited for tbs anyway and then straylight run blah blah blah. and when you look at it most of the songs on this album and some on the new one could really back this story up. just like in there's no i in team where nolan took lyrics from brand new lazzara does the same thing to catch their attention. including playing soco amaretto lime and half step higher and taking the lyrics and changing them a little bit to catch lacey and nolans attention. i would think the most obvious are bonus mosh to michelle, the union goes to the friendship between lacey and nolan and alot of others,looking at it this way the lyrics make way better sense.from the new album, whats it feel like to be a ghost basicly saying, what it feel like to not be famous anymore nolan, liar refers to them all as choir boys which is also a familiar line, make damn sure is a reply to brand news okay i belive you but my tommy gun dont (which disses lazzara hard) switching the lyric ' i am all you ever wanted (brand new) to ' you are everything i want bc you are everything im not' (tbs) also the song existentialism on prom night is most likely talking to lazzara saying 'sing what you think nooone is listing, and sing me something soft sad and delicate or loud and out of key..' which would explain while this album is softer compared to tayf and then louder now is obviosly louder. that is what iv picked up reading forums and ect. tbs is way more skilled then you givve them credit for. just listen to most of brand new straylight run and tbss music.

and if you want proof their is hate go to brand news merch shop and check out the shirt that reads ' bc mics are for singing not swinging' an obvios insult to lazarras stage presence and tbs shirt ' proudly swinging since 1999'

Anonymous (June 1, 2006)

this is good album, and if you think about it the lyrics actually are very good. first of all tell all your friends was actually written by nolan and lazzara who got togethor with lacey and came up with ideas for songs then went and took them and made them into their own thing. thats why you notice huge similaritys in lyrics. on tayf and your favorite weopon. then from what iv gathered lazzara thought michelle nolan (who he was dating) was being really mean and controllive and cheated on her. he told lacey who he thought he could trust. lacey went straight to nolan who told michelle who broke up with adam and wanted john to quit the band, who was split on the decision until lacey intervened and told him to quit and start something new. so him and shawn went since they had written songs that werent suited for tbs anyway and then straylight run blah blah blah. and when you look at it most of the songs on this album and some on the new one could really back this story up. just like in there's no i in team where nolan took lyrics from brand new lazzara does the same thing to catch their attention. including playing soco amaretto lime and half step higher and taking the lyrics and changing them a little bit to catch lacey and nolans attention. i would think the most obvious are bonus mosh to michelle, the union goes to the friendship between lacey and nolan and alot of others,looking at it this way the lyrics make way better sense.from the new album, whats it feel like to be a ghost basicly saying, what it feel like to not be famous anymore nolan, liar refers to them all as choir boys which is also a familiar line, make damn sure is a reply to brand news okay i belive you but my tommy gun dont (which disses lazzara hard) switching the lyric ' i am all you ever wanted (brand new) to ' you are everything i want bc you are everything im not' (tbs) also the song existentialism on prom night is most likely talking to lazzara saying 'sing what you think nooone is listing, and sing me something soft sad and delicate or loud and out of key..' which would explain while this album is softer compared to tayf and then louder now is obviosly louder. that is what iv picked up reading forums and ect. tbs is way more skilled then you givve them credit for. just listen to most of brand new straylight run and tbss music.

and if you want proof their is hate go to brand news merch shop and check out the shirt that reads ' bc mics are for singing not swinging' an obvios insult to lazarras stage presence and tbs shirt ' proudly swinging since 1999'

Anonymous (June 1, 2006)

this is good album, and if you think about it the lyrics actually are very good. first of all tell all your friends was actually written by nolan and lazzara who got togethor with lacey and came up with ideas for songs then went and took them and made them into their own thing. thats why you notice huge similaritys in lyrics. on tayf and your favorite weopon. then from what iv gathered lazzara thought michelle nolan (who he was dating) was being really mean and controllive and cheated on her. he told lacey who he thought he could trust. lacey went straight to nolan who told michelle who broke up with adam and wanted john to quit the band, who was split on the decision until lacey intervened and told him to quit and start something new. so him and shawn went since they had written songs that werent suited for tbs anyway and then straylight run blah blah blah. and when you look at it most of the songs on this album and some on the new one could really back this story up. just like in there's no i in team where nolan took lyrics from brand new lazzara does the same thing to catch their attention. including playing soco amaretto lime and half step higher and taking the lyrics and changing them a little bit to catch lacey and nolans attention. i would think the most obvious are bonus mosh to michelle, the union goes to the friendship between lacey and nolan and alot of others,looking at it this way the lyrics make way better sense.from the new album, whats it feel like to be a ghost basicly saying, what it feel like to not be famous anymore nolan, liar refers to them all as choir boys which is also a familiar line, make damn sure is a reply to brand news okay i belive you but my tommy gun dont (which disses lazzara hard) switching the lyric ' i am all you ever wanted (brand new) to ' you are everything i want bc you are everything im not' (tbs) also the song existentialism on prom night is most likely talking to lazzara saying 'sing what you think nooone is listing, and sing me something soft sad and delicate or loud and out of key..' which would explain while this album is softer compared to tayf and then louder now is obviosly louder. that is what iv picked up reading forums and ect. tbs is way more skilled then you givve them credit for. just listen to most of brand new straylight run and tbss music.

and if you want proof their is hate go to brand news merch shop and check out the shirt that reads ' bc mics are for singing not swinging' an obvios insult to lazarras stage presence and tbs shirt ' proudly swinging since 1999'

Anonymous (April 24, 2006)

alls im gonna say is tbs rock ass and matt who plays bass is one friggen HOTTIE! and he knows he loves me. k bye

TBS ROCK!

Anonymous (April 24, 2006)

i love taking back sunday to death and i would do anything to meet them and i think their music is the best and they are my favorite band so all TBS haters you need to go get checked..in the the begining i wasnt into like the music that they play now i was into that like rap shit an now i hate it and i would never trade TBS for any other band cause they rock and they are my friggen idols =)

Anonymous (March 7, 2006)

I personally dont know too much about singing "in tune" or sounding perfect when singing, so I dont really care how their voices sounded because the lyrics are what grabs my attention. I loved this CD and I also loved " Tell all your friends" too...Taking Back Sunday is my all time favorite band and I wouldnt change anything about them. Im a girl, but I love Adams hair, so Im cutting it like his tomorrow..I cant wait. At first I didnt really like or understand their music, but the more closely I listened to it and the more I understood the lyrics the more I came to admire and respect Taking Back Sunday...So...Good luck Taking Back Sunday, I hope in the future you guys will become a rock legend!!!! ~abbie

Anonymous (March 7, 2006)

I personally dont know too much about singing "in tune" or sounding perfect when singing, so I dont really care how their voices sounded because the lyrics are what grabs my attention. I loved this CD and I also loved " Tell all your friends" too...Taking Back Sunday is my all time favorite band and I wouldnt change anything about them. Im a girl, but I love Adams hair, so Im cutting it like his tomorrow..I cant wait. At first I didnt really like or understand their music, but the more closely I listened to it and the more I understood the lyrics the more I came to admire and respect Taking Back Sunday...So...Good luck Taking Back Sunday, I hope in the future you guys will become a rock legend!!!! ~abbie

sk8rchic (February 1, 2006)

love the little kids butt. anyways this cd rocked but it got broke in my stero when it got knocked over. a friend got me to listen to them and now i can't syop listening to them.

crazytoledo (July 25, 2005)

another dumbass review

Another dumbass!

Anonymous (July 21, 2005)

another dumbass review

crazytoledo (May 19, 2005)

Whiny vocals = Suck

Decent vocals = Ok

More Whiny, Less Singing = Suck

Do the math...

Anonymous (May 7, 2005)

john left the band because adam cheated on his sister michelle, and then he got shaun to come, and origianlly mark to, mark recorded the drums for the demo but then decided to stay in tbs. adam is a heroine addict, and a total moron, he forgot his "roots" (hes not really from the 516). he is a total loser and a shame to our scene. all i know is that one day the original tbs lineup will come back and play at the local 7.
eddie, mark, jesse lacey, john nolan. and antonio

.516.for.life.

AV

Anonymous (April 8, 2005)

mediocre at best

Patio (February 14, 2005)

taking black sunday back* isnt all that grood. Lyrics suck they blow there repatative and very very very boring. they have no grood guitar riffs noo hard anything. noo groo dbreak downs

Anonymous (February 11, 2005)

TBS needs musical talent and orginalness. and not look like a retard on stage. In liek all there popular songs they say "wishful Thinkers" in three of the 3 songs i was listening to. how he clamps up and bends over and looks like a idiot and that kind of music is boring sorry i dont liek boring music theres nothing to be noticed

literature (January 28, 2005)

a letdown if you have "tell all your friends". if not, your expectations may not be as high and you'll probably like it

Anonymous (January 7, 2005)

ok, lets think. hmm.... new taking back sunday has complete ownage over the old album, even though i own and love both. the new bass player, matt, is about 2935075892694875 times better than shaun, and fred, is a fuckin amazing musician in general. yea, adam lazzara cant sing, but neither can geoff rickly of thursday. think about it. YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON.
DerRanGeD DuGgiE

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

Whomever it is that mistankingly gave this genious album a negative review is rediculously wrong and should be fired.
Taking Back Sunday rock sooooo much both on their 1st album and most definitely on this one.

Anonymous (November 3, 2004)

I think that this Cd's release was a little to hyped up.

As everyone already knows, john nolan was in taking back sunday, and co-wrote the songs on tell all your friends, and when john nolan left everyone said taking back sunday was a sinking ship and john nolan was the only thing that had held it together with his oh so wonderful wrighting skills.

Well now that they have both let out their new CDs i can safely say that taking back sunday did fine without john, and this CD was overrhyped because the lyrics didnt have the complexity i thought they would.

Anonymous (October 24, 2004)

I seem to be one of the only ones that enjoys this album.

Although i do agree that john nolan made taking back sunday and they have slightly lost their touch without him.

Anonymous (October 13, 2004)

Wow, TBS fans are complete idiots. That's fine; we'll need lots of people to clean our public institutions once the spics, chinks, and japs are shipped back to where they belong.

-sickboi

Anonymous (September 25, 2004)

Although I agree that the lyrics on this album are repetitive, the songs slower, and that "New American Classic" is just embarassing, there are still some undeniably phenomenal aspects to this album as well. There are still plenty of intuitive, poetic lines and singing from the gut/heart, from Adam at least-- even if it is off key, shouldn't it be when you're screaming with real emotion? But I really don't like Fred's empty vocals, and the fire between singers that there was on the first album is definitely gone. Still.......I can't help but like this album.....a lot.

Anonymous (September 21, 2004)

whoever is writing bad shit about this album is just a jackass who has nothing better to do than to judge something they have no place to judge. i'd like to see your dumbasses get out there and try to make a decent album. in my opinion the album was great. so you all can kiss my ass and go find something else that is better to judge...assholes

Anonymous (September 7, 2004)

great album...

www.nineballrock.com

Anonymous (August 12, 2004)

this site is trying so hard to be Pitchfork media, it's sad

trying to act as such elitists and stuff

bullshit

get decent reviewers

Anonymous (August 11, 2004)

granted, this band is a guilty pleasure of mine. Tell all your friends caught me singing songs in my head for almost two years now.It sucks that the original lineup is gone, but after listening to this new album its got the same appeal. Face it a band like tbs isnt going to put out a "white album" so ditch the idea of them ever really making it. But the songs are catchy and the flow is there. Just enjoy it like you did the last and zip it

Anonymous (August 9, 2004)

Dude....as far as harsh criticism is concerned..I think your review about covers it! But I happen to think you are completely over looking the fact that this isnt meant to sound exactly like their old stuff!!
I think this is an ace emo album...!

Anonymous (August 7, 2004)

as this cd does have some repitition, it is a great cd. i think adam and fred complement each other better than adam and john(i will prob get hate mail for that). they took lyrics from brand new because those two bands have been fueding. to find out why go to songfacts.com and look up seventy times 7 by brand new. i love this new cd and saw them play an acoustic set in orlando. they rocked. adam and fred sound so well together. they have given me faith in music again.

Anonymous (August 7, 2004)

I still love these dudes. Cmon they rock.

Anonymous (August 6, 2004)

a good album or not, but it sold 180,000 copies on its first week...#3 on billboard, #1 UK

Anonymous (August 5, 2004)

not really a great album, its something that will get old after a while. dont spend your money on this unless your really into this kind of music. i agree with the review, its definatly repetative and hes right about the little equation. o well, i guess if you like it you like it and if you dont, please stop telling the people that do like it that they are idiots. who cares if they have different taste in music.

colin (August 2, 2004)

i think 'anonymous' is 12.

FortyMinutesWest (August 2, 2004)

God, this band certainly brings out the intellectual elite.

FortyMinutesWest (August 2, 2004)

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Anonymous (August 2, 2004)

to my friend colin...it seems that u dont have nothing to do other that post messages on this forum....Come on dude, go do something...suck ur dick, go to church and find peace on yourself, or go lick john nolan's balls...whatever.
by they way, i dont think slowdance on the inside has something to do with Socco Amaretto Lime, sundays best or schools clothes??...even if they took those parts from brand new, they know each other....and if u havent realize, some of Tell All Your Friends songs has parts from other bands, like northstar and even brand new too..... and whats the deal? you loved TAYF....people is so full of shit, talking crap about tbs and im sure ur probably singing cute without the e...SAD, and collin dont write back, cuz i wont read it

Anonymous (August 2, 2004)

i cant believe all i was reading. I agree that this country is free and that u can say whatever u want, but theres a big difference between liberty of opinion and IGNORANCE, cuz thats what im seeing on some people here. I dont know why some people is saying that tbs is nothin without john nolan....and i dont know if u have heard straylight run songs....VERY DEPRESSING AND SAD, i was expecting more from john cuz i really liked his style but wow his new songs are really shit, and sorry to the people that seems to be in love with him, but its true. You CANT compara Tell All Your Friends with Where You Want To Be, cuz theres no sense on that cuz are totally different albums..i would say Tell All YOur friends is a TEENAGER CLASSIC POETRY and Where You want be is something different..you listen to it and u wonder, What that lyrics means???mmm u have to make ur own conclusion.
This album was what i was expecting from tbs, MATURITY and a lot of feeling to it. AND IF U THINK THIS ALBUM IS REALLY BAD, LETS JUST WAIT TO SEE THE SALES, cuz that wont lie...most of the people whos buying the cd, they did hear the songs before cuz they were on kazaa 2 months ago..soo, i feel sorry for all the people who dont appreciate good music and that only like to talk shit. I love TBS and they're the shit......and also theyre amazing and nice people.
LaterSS. Alex HErnandez, LA CAlifornia (alky85@hotmail.com)

colin (August 1, 2004)

Why are you rating and commenting on an album you haven't even taken the time to listen to? That's like going to a nation that has a different form of society and ripping the place apart because you've never lived in that way... are you the president?

although... accurate as an analogy, you're blowing it way out of proportion. a bad pop album and going to war with a country? come on... that's a ridiculously huge gap.

Anonymous (August 1, 2004)

This comment is a retort to the guy who gave it a one and said "I'm not even listening to it."

Why are you rating and commenting on an album you haven't even taken the time to listen to? That's like going to a nation that has a different form of society and ripping the place apart because you've never lived in that way... are you the president?

colin (August 1, 2004)

You can't use the word punk anymore to define a band. It changed so much from anarchy to NFG. Yes, everyband is trying to make money, other wise they would just gather and play for themselves and have a few friends over.

you're right, i wasn't trying to define taking back sunday, of all bands, as punk.

what i was trying to do is say that there are bands out there that don't care as much about money (i mean, bad religion is a good example...) that are still trying to create a change, to take the roots of what punk was founded on and use it for good. bands like this are obviously in it for the money, as everyone does have to make a living. however, some are willing to sacrifice their own potential lifestyle to deliver a message which they think is important, which is the admirable part of punk's roots.

TrainWreck (July 31, 2004)

I hate how peoples opinions are biased because of expectations they had. If you had never heard Tell All Your Friends, and than heard this you would LOVE it. I do agree that it is much worse than tell all your friends but that is not how I would rate it. I am comparing it to other emo/pop punk albums of the time and it isn't too bad.

I'll probably still be listening to it for a month or so... But I will admit it shall be old by than.

thriceequalsgod (July 31, 2004)

Im using caps! do i sound cool now too???

FortyMinutesWest (July 31, 2004)

How does signing up for a user name amount to any sort of accountablity?

pinkpineapples (July 31, 2004)

You know, I find it fucked up that, most of you have don't have the balls to post your name, it's all "anonymously" posted. If your gonna bitch about the band, what-ever freedom of speach, but at least don't be so retarded as to hide, just so no one can tell you to fuck off back.

All the TBS fans, hang in there! With the good comes the bad

Anonymous (July 31, 2004)

FUCK U ALL WHO THINK TAKING BACK SUNDAY ARE STILL NOT GOOD......take awayt john nolan leaving and act like this is taking back's 1st cd.........hmmmm......i would think fuck this band is goood......and if u wouldt your lying!

Anonymous (July 31, 2004)

"go the fuck back to wherever you came from asswipe. it's fuckheads like you that ruin music, punk, and everything that the ethos of do it yourself and not for profit but for social change stand for."
You can't use the word punk anymore to define a band. It changed so much from anarchy to NFG. Yes, everyband is trying to make money, other wise they would just gather and play for themselves and have a few friends over.

colin (July 30, 2004)

man fuck u all, hating a band just because their popularity has gone up. quit hating on them.....they earned this shit by all their hardwork and shit. isn't the main goal of starting a fucken band to get rich? you all can go to hell fucken fags.

this has to be the worst comment ever in the history of comments on a 'punk' site.

go the fuck back to wherever you came from asswipe. it's fuckheads like you that ruin music, punk, and everything that the ethos of do it yourself and not for profit but for social change stand for.

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

Does talent > sound? Or does Sound > talent.
Adam's voice isn't perfect but how can you judge it when we all listen to some bands that scream? If you want a great voice go to the record store and buy some Diana Ross and stop listening to "punk."
Stop saying I could write a better album and go do it. Music isn't easy neither is having you guitar/ back up singer and bassist leave and still come out bring the heat that TBS did.
Swallow your pride your "expert opinion" and you bullshit and listen to this cd.

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

" they took lyrics from brand new because those two bands have been fueding."

You need to step back find out what you are talking about. These kids were friends they wrote their debut albums together. If you knew anything Rufio/TBS toured together you know who they took along? their good friends Brand new.

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

guy below me. shut up and go back to absolutepunk.net not every band do it for the big bucks.

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

man fuck u all, hating a band just because their popularity has gone up. quit hating on them.....they earned this shit by all their hardwork and shit. isn't the main goal of starting a fucken band to get rich? you all can go to hell fucken fags.

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

"as this cd does have some repitition, it is a great cd. i think adam and fred complement each other better than adam and john(i will prob get hate mail for that). they took lyrics from brand new because those two bands have been fueding. to find out why go to songfacts.com and look up seventy times 7 by brand new. i love this new cd and saw them play an acoustic set in orlando. they rocked. adam and fred sound so well together. they have given me faith in music again."

if this is your faith, then you're deffinately going to hell.

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

hey kid, everyone here knows about 70x7, quit acting like you know shit you tit fuck.

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

as this cd does have some repitition, it is a great cd. i think adam and fred complement each other better than adam and john(i will prob get hate mail for that). they took lyrics from brand new because those two bands have been fueding. to find out why go to songfacts.com and look up seventy times 7 by brand new. i love this new cd and saw them play an acoustic set in orlando. they rocked. adam and fred sound so well together. they have given me faith in music again.

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

Eddie Reyes does coke and picks his ass.

colin (July 30, 2004)

I dont know if everyone here is listening to the same album, cause i dont see how you could give it less than perfect.

i'd like to know how old you are.

no offense, but at 21 i had my pop punk years during high school and even then i would have seen through this shit.

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

"if i want auto-tuned vocals i can listen to a britney spears record."
alot of bands use pro-tools, it happens.

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

I dont know if everyone here is listening to the same album, cause i dont see how you could give it less than perfect.

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

ed reyes started mind over matter

mikeinflames (July 30, 2004)

if i wanted to hear from an asshole i'd fart

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

after seeing this band live, there was no need to purchase the album. if i want auto-tuned vocals i can listen to a britney spears record. and at least she realizes she has an awful voice and lip sincs live. i think adam should sport a microphone head set and do the same. the sounds that man produces hurts my ears. the lyrics are just dumb too.

crossed_out (July 30, 2004)

this band is horrible.

jonUSC (July 30, 2004)

Hey

I think TBS may have been onto something with "Tell All Your Friends", aside from the cheesy title. Their new ways may be different but must people be so negative to a band that's merely made a change to their members and sound? In regard to the post that read bands like The Beatles and The Stones blew, go jump out of a bus.

Anonymous (July 30, 2004)

If everyone would readeach others posts more careful we`d have more of an understanding here ... but only time can tell the place of WYWTB ... and ye, somehow TBS borrowed a lot of elements from past bands like Lifetime, but every band does ... and could there be a better band to steal from ;-)) ...

inagreendase (July 30, 2004)

"TBS did not borrow anything from OTMOP, they just ripped off Lifetime."

First, we heard a huge gang of support for this album.

Then we heard from the same person about how Kid Dynamite sucks and Taking Back Sunday is good, especially when based on the merits of this album?

Now Taking Back Sunday rips off Lifetime?

Come on, the Twilight Zone doesn't come up with shit like this.

thriceequalsgod (July 30, 2004)

sorry I'm tired. I meant "explain how i contradict myself"

thriceequalsgod (July 30, 2004)

get a user name, explain how, then come back and talk to me.

I never said anything more than i liked TAYF, This album sucks, and it has a few catchy songs that could have been written better. fuck you.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

to thie kid a few post below who mentioned silent majority gets mad prop for even mentioning them, but i have to say that you're wrong about other LI bands ripping off SM, actually they all ripped off Mind Over Matter including SM.

As for this album I can't get enough of it. It fucking rocks. Every song is good on this album. Once again again TBS proved us all that they can still kick everyone's ass.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

i hate pop bands with instruments too.

the fucking beatles and rolling stones blew. GOD! i wish they'd never form, then music would really have taken off...

oh wait.

theevilmonkey (July 29, 2004)

I took a shit today and was surprised to find this album sitting in my toilet.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

on the might of princes is nothing like any of the other long island bands. silent majority is the epitome of the long island sound, that bands like glassjaw, the movielife, taking back sunday and brand new all took pieces from.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

You all are silly ^__^

Music has always been like this and will always be like this

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

what i was trying to get across is that bands like otmop perfected that sound that long island has become famous for. But what TBS and bands like brand new did was capitalize it and make it a pop style...demeriting it and giving LI music a bad name....

sucks

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

"this is a rip off of an older long island band's cd. "On the might of princes" had an album called, "where you are and where you want to be"...I have read interview and know personally that Taking Back Sunday were peers of OTMOP. The only problem is that OTMOP had the intense sound that taking back sunday wishes they had, they took OTMOP's sound and destroyed it with overcommercialized scream/sing structure that is way too produced to seem sincere. "

what the FUCK are you talking about? yes, TBS and OTMOP were contemporaries up until the recent OTMOP European tour, when the band could no longer go on. and yes, it is probably no coincidence that the title of the new TBS record is strikingly similar to that of the amazing "where you are and where you want to be" record of OTMOP, but there is no musical comparison to be made between the two. TBS did not borrow anything from OTMOP, they just ripped off Lifetime.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

Pop Bands with instruments suck

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

What's sad is being from Long Island and being around this entire music scene it sucks how oversaturated and commercialized it has become.

A)this is a rip off of an older long island band's cd. "On the might of princes" had an album called, "where you are and where you want to be"...I have read interview and know personally that Taking Back Sunday were peers of OTMOP. The only problem is that OTMOP had the intense sound that taking back sunday wishes they had, they took OTMOP's sound and destroyed it with overcommercialized scream/sing structure that is way too produced to seem sincere.

This is a call to anyone who is in a band that has an respect for a scene or movement, respect it. Participate in it and take pieces from it and make it your own, but do NOT rip things off and continue to push the envelope, its the only way a scene or new style of music can retain morals and respectability.

Same goes for Brand New, they couldnt even sell out Long Island before they got signed, and that was their hometown...its stupid how bands are getting gobbled up for no reason when there are plenty of bands with kick ass music and morals to go with it...

and dont get me wrong, i was a huge tbs fan from back in the day when I had their demo tapes, but this CD fails to push the envelope and to me it seems as if they are going in the same direction as Dashboard and cashing in for the buck...it wont be long until we see TBS participating in "emo to go" ad's for Civics just like Chris from Dashboard.

-Happy Rocking
jason

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

"thanks for the intelligent feedback. Buuut i was also trying to refer to them as a 'new' band, something different than TBS w/ Nolan; also trying to not compare this to TAYF"

in that case, i have 6 pros and 4 cons, just subtract out the ones that referred to tayf and John. If you take this album on its own, disregarding their last album and lineup, its a really really fucking good cd.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

It is really sad that you all just jump on the "this sucks" bandwagon. If the reveiw rocked you'd all agree. and you sit there and compare them to other bands... I've never actually heard of something so stupid and immature. The album is fuckin well produced and the new members definitely add to the band. There is no way you can deny that. You're all just a bunch of punks who are pissed off that you liked a band that actually broke through and will inevitably become popular. Stop being suck a bunch of highschool children and stop hating. The album is awesome and you all know it.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

oops i hit the post button and forgot to see what i was talking about, damn it i hate it when that happens.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

everyone is giving john nolen way way way too much credit, you are all acting like the band was him and it by far wasn't. the only thing he can do better than fred was scream and he barely even did that on tayf. as long as they are happy with what they made what the fuck does it matter. its not like they really give a shit about any of our opinions to begin with. and thriceequalsgod yeah um, you have been contradicting yourself pretty much the entire time. so yeah just stop talking.

thriceequalsgod (July 29, 2004)

"thriceequalsgod you keep contradicting yourself. you are a fucking douche bag. you are all "i hate them" "well they aren't too bad" "i guess they are good just different" dude just shut the hell up. where you want to be is right up there with tell all your friends. it sucks that i can only give it a 10."

please, for the sake of your own image: make sure you know what youre talking about before you press that "Post" button.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

these dudes were never good. It was just Victory's way of filling in the space THursaday left.

If you EVER listened to this shit you are a number one PUSSY!

theevilmonkey (July 29, 2004)

I love people who say that if this cd wasn't released by Taking Back Sunday, everybody would give it great reviews. It's a bad cd. Plain as that.

And this band didn't try to do anything different, that's the whole problem. They didn't try to evolve on this cd. Don't kid yourself. They just did a really bad job pretending they still had John Nolan.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

fna buddy, it is a great album. the only song i didn't like is i am fred astaire. i don't know why, i just can't get into that song.
but no one really says anything about that one so it may just be me, but i can listen to it but i can't get into it, and thriceequalsgod you keep contradicting yourself. you are a fucking douche bag. you are all "i hate them" "well they aren't too bad" "i guess they are good just different" dude just shut the hell up. where you want to be is right up there with tell all your friends. it sucks that i can only give it a 10.

thriceequalsgod (July 29, 2004)

"pros
1.new singer guy has a good voice, probably technically better than Nolan's but not as poingnant.
2. songs are still very catchy
3. the outtro's/vocal overlapping is very well done, i think Adams voice is just as good.
4. sorry, but I think 'new american classic' is a great song
5. set phasers to stun, i know you know, the last song, 180 by summer all rule
6. still some very good lyrics in certain songs (little devontional comes to mind)
7. put out a solid sophmore effort despite all thats happned to them and all the hype/drama surrounding them and their first album.

cons
1.overproduced but i've heard worse (blink for example)
2.lyrics lack slightly
3.the single is a bit toooo radio friendly, almost conciously, however 'whos says you'll have to go, i could go all night' is a great line
4.missing Nolans desparate, poingant (sp) vocals
5. not quite as passionate.
6.#5 w/ a bullet is kinda boring, maybe their worst song.
7. too repetitive at times."

thanks for the intelligent feedback. Buuut i was also trying to refer to them as a 'new' band, something different than TBS w/ Nolan; also trying to not compare this to TAYF

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

" singing and the background singing: they intermix way too much and u have no idea who to listen to which equals a total lack of coherence "

i can follow it just fine. maybe you should smoke a bowl first.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

pros
1.new singer guy has a good voice, probably technically better than Nolan's but not as poingnant.
2. songs are still very catchy
3. the outtro's/vocal overlapping is very well done, i think Adams voice is just as good.
4. sorry, but I think 'new american classic' is a great song
5. set phasers to stun, i know you know, the last song, 180 by summer all rule
6. still some very good lyrics in certain songs (little devontional comes to mind)
7. put out a solid sophmore effort despite all thats happned to them and all the hype/drama surrounding them and their first album.

cons
1.overproduced but i've heard worse (blink for example)
2.lyrics lack slightly
3.the single is a bit toooo radio friendly, almost conciously, however 'whos says you'll have to go, i could go all night' is a great line
4.missing Nolans desparate, poingant (sp) vocals
5. not quite as passionate.
6.#5 w/ a bullet is kinda boring, maybe their worst song.
7. too repetitive at times.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

the singing and the background singing: they intermix way too much and u have no idea who to listen to which equals a total lack of coherence

-fuckuaurora

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

I agree with the fact that this cd is not as good as Tell All Your Friends, but to say it sucks is just wrong. I'm a huge fan of Taking Back Sunday, I saw them when they played with Blink-182 and sadly, Cypress Hill. They put on an awesome energetic show. Their second cd, Where You Want To Be, is a lot different then what I expected, but that's a good thing. It would be boring if they were the same. So I like the cd. But hey, that's my opinion listen to the cd yourself and form your own.

thriceequalsgod (July 29, 2004)

well i was being sarcastic, because im pretty sure that he was actually serious. I actually laughed out loud at it, too, because it had to be one of the most cliche responses imaginable

sickboi (July 29, 2004)

THRICEEQUALSGOD:

You gave my prestigious award to that? Please don't insult me. That shit sounds like it was written by a 14 year old.

Oh yeah, I hear this band LOVES the cock.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

Can this band's drummer not keep time or something? Live he plays like three times the speed of the rest of the band.

thriceequalsgod (July 29, 2004)

Pros
1) "Bonus Mosh Pt. II", "The Union" and "Set Phasers To Stun" are all catchy songs with a taste of what the current band can accomplish. Although the lyrics aren't anything special, the songwriting is above par with the rest of the album.
2) Style change from TAYF (even though this is a different band, as this has been stressed)

Cons
1) Overproduced
2) Adam Lazzarra's voice cracking repetitively
3) Repetitive lyrics
4) Unimaginative lyrics
5) "New American Classic" -with its violins and xylophones (It just doesn't work).
6)

thriceequalsgod (July 29, 2004)

I'd actually like to weigh the pros and cons of this album. Copy and paste the following into your comment, adding another number to either list, but if the argument is not a valid one, it will be disregarded.

Pros
1) "Bonus Mosh Pt. II", "The Union" and "Set Phasers To Stun" are all catchy songs with a taste of what the current band can accomplish. Although the lyrics aren't anything special, the songwriting is above par with the rest of the album.
2)

Cons
1) Overproduced
2) Adam Lazzarra's voice cracking repetitively
3) Repetitive lyrics
4) Unimaginative lyrics
5) "New American Classic" -with its violins and xylophones (It just doesn't work).
6)

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

i have been looking forward to this album since the date was set for it to come out. to all you close minded fucks, come outside your box and think expand. which is exactly what tbs did on this album. you all want no change at all in the music industry you are all lost in hell. i was not at all disappointed by this album. so they tried something different, if you don't like the band because they aren't your taste its one thing, but to start disliking them because they went a different angle on this album is just fucking retarded. and as far as repetition goes they are just as repetitious on the tell all your friends. and there are a lot of emo punk bands that have an acoustic song that is far far worse than "new american classic" i really think it is a good song, there are a lot of meaning amd emotion in the lyrics and the acoustic solo is a great "doodle" on the acoustic strings. this is a great album.

thriceequalsgod (July 29, 2004)

okay, okay.. last one

"Taking Back Sunday - Where You Want To Be
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-07-28 02:25:24
My Score:
I give it a fucking 10. I give it a fucking 10 because you're all fucking morons. First off, Emo/Screamo singers aren't supposed to sound like fucking good singers, thats the point of the genre you fucking idiots. Second, who the fuck cares if they took lyrics from Brand New, they're friends, they're allowed to. Third, it's fucking Taking Back Sunday, they're better then ALL the shit they play on MTV or any Radio station. Fourth, did I mention that you're all fucking morons? You pissants probably listen to fucking good charlotte."

Comment of the Day. Hillarious.

thriceequalsgod (July 29, 2004)

"The same fuckers who are on here trashing this, ARE THE SAME FUCKERS WHO SUCKED TBS dicks' when they were on top. You deserve to revel in your shame for wasting your time on this shit. Now Lifetime that is a band."

Well when they were on top, they had just put out a well written, catchy album. Anyone who liked TAYF before won't dislike it now...

"Fuck the title names of the songs, fuck how Tell All Your Friends sounds, fuck the cover art (for fuck sake), and fuck all you motherfuckers for claiming to have any idea what good music is.
Taking Back Sunday has more talent than each and every one of you will ever imagine embodying.
So, with all of this said, pull your lower lip back from the asshole of which your head has been occupying and smarten the fuck up."

We never denied their talent, just their songwriting.. Why don't you pull your lower lip off TBS' dicks.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

you know what, to all those who believe so, tbs are sellouts. they sold out all shows last week, sold out all shows this week, and will probably sell out all shows next week. so calling them "sell outs" is more true than you think. and also how original would it be to be exactly the same as the last. with new members in the band it would be an insult and a slap in the face to jon and shaun to do the same as the first album. its not like they left on completely bad terms. where you want to be is an excellent album, no it isn't tell all your friends, but really did you expect it to be exactly the same. this album is great.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

I liked tbs last album. but it is like the singer lost all range in his voice. this just isn't good music. period!

thriceequalsgod (July 29, 2004)

the review says it all.

letdown of the year

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

"Taking Back Sunday? Talk about a faggot name for a band. Bunch of idiots trying to be all arty when really they're just lame fucks who love jacking off each other during band practice while listening to an emo CD on their cd player."

whats wrong, did the singer fuck your sister or something?

jacktheskipper (July 29, 2004)

Idiots have had their say ... but perhaps you should all read the words of this old Gameface song:

"hey mister punk rock been a scenester for a decade all it earned you was a headache and some bad tattoos hey kid what's in the backpack? are you planning to stay a while, or just until the new style fades? I know you wanna be different just like everybody else I know you want an alternative as long as it's been picked out for you. it's OK we've established the rules--you've got the clothes, the hair, the shoes and you've got holes in places that your Mom will never know. I know you're worried about selling out like everybody else. You try so hard to take it personal--just have fun, enjoy the show. you don't have to act like it's the end of the world you could have picked a better place to throw your attitude around. it's only music--what's the big deal?"

Sums it up perfectly I think ... by the way, everyone bashing Kid Dynamite and praising TBS deserves to get spanked for days ;-)) ...

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

i think this review hits the nail on the head. definately overproduced and repetitive. palm muted verses and gang vocals which repeat themselves endlessly. but "bonus mosh II" is probably the worst song on the cd.

i still love it.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

[quote]Kid Dynamite sucks. Your music sucks. Other poster has a point, the object of emo/screamo is not to have a good voice, Adam isn't a pop singer... he doesn't have to sound like Tom Delonge. His voice is amazingly terrible. That would be the point, it's raw and it sounds amazing with the music. So fuck off.[/quote]

Your are such a fucking stupid idiot ... Tom Delonge`s voice is even worse, have you ever heard him sing live ... by the way: I didn`t have a point?!? Can`t you read?!? Are you retarded?!? I think a lot of people won`t like Kid Dynamite, that`s alright, it`s not everyone cup of coffee, but at least they had something like lyrics ;-)) ...

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

You fuckers really piss me off.
A year ago I was bitching about these little hipsters. I called them pissing away Wednesday
And a flame war soon ensued. Now! Oh look you little pricks seem to hate them. Go read buddy head you little pricks.
I guess there is no accounting for taste.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

watched 'em on Kimmel the other night, because I have an on/off affinity for them, I never really like em, but I never really hate em. I saw them once with Nolan, and I thought they weren't all that bad, plus I was amused that he and I played eerily similar cheapo, made in Indonesia DeArmond guitars...

Wait, where was I going? Oh yeah, Kimmel, they sucked on it. Damn repetitive chorus, and it's just not the same without Nolan's voice. Not to take anything away from the new guy, because he's got some degree in jazz guitar, but it's not the same.

colin (July 29, 2004)

Taking Back Sunday? Talk about a faggot name for a band. Bunch of idiots trying to be all arty when really they're just lame fucks who love jacking off each other during band practice while listening to an emo CD on their cd player.

it's comments like that that totally take back from any arguement you could have posed.

i might not have liked the cd, but bringing homophobia into it is not only horribly inhumane, but if you want to be cliche and elitist about it, it's also horribly not punk rock.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

No, it's not Tell All Your Friends.
But few bands ever do the same thing twice.
It's call progress, originality if you will.

Number Five With a Bullet is not a rip off of anyone's song.
That song title is incredibly common because many people are inspired by the movie High Fidelity.

And as for the gentleman saying that Taking Back Sunday is a "faggot name for a band."
Well, we're glad that your potty mouth was able to share an opinion,
but we don't feel that your band, the Insand Clown Posse, is very good. At all.

Rock on if you feel it.
Fuck off if you don't.
End of story.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

Taking Back Sunday? Talk about a faggot name for a band. Bunch of idiots trying to be all arty when really they're just lame fucks who love jacking off each other during band practice while listening to an emo CD on their cd player.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

Garbage, it is i wish there was a Zero so i could rate it that.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

If this was a cd from a band no one has ever heard of, it would be getting great reviews. It just doesn't sound at all like old TBS. Look at saves the day, SWYA was totally differnt from everything before it and everyone thought it sucked at first, but now everyone loves it. The same will happen with this.

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

Oh yeah track 9 is a rip off of the song aurthur wrote... You suck tbs go steal more music from other bands

Anonymous (July 29, 2004)

This cd sucks soooo bad! no wonder its under pop punk on a lot of sites... Ever since jon left they been sucking cock... Tbs=sellouts.. And i met adam before hes a real dick. Adam i hate you... Go write some more bad songs...

dazed (July 29, 2004)

I don't want to hear this.

Sellout05 (July 29, 2004)

As many people believed "Where You Want to Be" was a dissapointment compared to "Tell All Your Friends" But who didn't see that coming? However that does not make it a bad record. The lyrics aren't as clever and the music is at a much slower pace, but "Where You Want to Be" is still pretty good. Songs that continue with TBS style would have to be tracks 2-5. Everything else is a B- at best. "Bonus Mosh pt.II" really gives Maschererino a chance to show his skills. Not many other songs on the record give him the chance other than to be backup vocals to Lazzara. There are no "Timberwolves @ NJ" or "Great Romances.." but oh well. Either way "Where You Want to Be" is not to be dismissed.

Some songs to check out (if you haven't heard them already) that TBS recorded before the departure of Nolan/Cooper are "The Ballad of Sal Villanueva" that appeared on the Victory Comp. and "Your Own Disaster" that was on the Warped '03 Comp. Must have songs for the must have fan.

Also TBS is needs alot of improvement live. On a disc it sounds great, but live there just not working together and it sounds like a bunch of noise till the chorus. I've seen them three times now. On the Takeover tour-first time and a big let down. The tour w/ Saves The Day-there only good show and Warped '04-waited 1 hour in the sun for nothing. They need to get there act together. Especially Lazzara (Mics are made for singing not swinging!)

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

yes guys it isnt better than tell all yourfreinds but its a decent album.......i mean we all knew the day would come when TBS would go mainstream...it happens to all the good bands....besides they are by no means an execptional band.........they just had exeptional lyrics with nolan

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

"When TBS lost Nolan Ryan, they lost the best fastball thrower the game has seen."

haha amazing.

theevilmonkey (July 28, 2004)

Whatever happened to Ryan Phillippe, anyway?

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

I'm not listening to it.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

When TBS lost Nolan Ryan, they lost the best fastball thrower the game has seen.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Haters and Lovers, alike - I know you're all listening to this CD.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

"Nolan, Nolan,Nolan you talk like he did everything in this band. You said the same thing that Nolan said about the musical structure of tbs in an interview he did in AP i think. That a good album same if your Nolan is not there."

What fucking language is this?

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Nolan, Nolan,Nolan you talk like he did everything in this band. You said the same thing that Nolan said about the musical structure of tbs in an interview he did in AP i think. That a good album same if your Nolan is not there.

sleepwalk (July 28, 2004)

"They should have let Sal Villanuenva produce it and at least not try to make it so glossy."

I 100% agree.

SethCohen (July 28, 2004)

The firs time I listened to this I was greatly let down. Then I played it again and kind of forgot who it was, and it was actually ok. The problem is the first album was way better than this, but had this been their first effort, or a band other than Taking Back Sunday then I think it would be received a little better, well actually no, but maybe if this was released in late 2001. I think the problem is that TBS will always be compared to Brand New and Thursday. Brand New put out a second record that was innovative for them, and a risk. Thursday signed to a major label, and still put out a stunning record. TBS stayed on Victory, lost their backbone (John Nolan) and then put out Tell All Your Friends II I think. That being said, I still enjoy this album, just not as much as I enjoyed TAYF. They should have let Sal Villanuenva produce it and at least not try to make it so glossy. I think if it had a grittier and faster sound than it would be better.

FortyMinutesWest (July 28, 2004)

I think Ted Nolan could turn this band around.

CrankWillDestroy (July 28, 2004)

Shitty, shitty, shit band

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Alright, I have something to say. And I really don't care if you think i'm wrong or right. Some people have their own opinions like Colin here. I think that everyone has the right to say what they want to say. Colin says that this is a bad album, an in his head he thinks he's right. Well, in my opinion I think that this album is very good. Well, i'm not going to bitch about people not liking the album or not.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

haha yes! a score that fits the band

colin (July 28, 2004)

its better to try and change and fail than to write the same boring, cliche garbage.

spot on.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Bad review. I think you are in love with John Nolan

pinkpineapples (July 28, 2004)

While I agree with most upset fans, this was a bit of a let down. I read in Alternitive Press, that this would be an outstanding album, and they rated it a 5 out of 5 stars. When I did the first run through of the album I was upset. But I've listend to it a couple of more times, and slowlt one by one songs stand out, and in due time TBS might redeem themselves. I just want to say to fans who are upset, it's been a day!! Relax a little, you never know what will happen with this cd, a kick ass video may result from a song you hate. Just give them a chance. And to those who are posting about how much the band sucks, and how you hate them bla bla bla. This is a review for the album, so to say you haven't even heard it yet, and then bashing them, is pure ignorance.
Fans hang in there, give the album more time to grown on you

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

while it's cool that this site allows people to submit reviews, the one downside to it is that the reviews are written by all different types of people, so its hard to compare reviews since there's no constant foundation

whatever- cd is good- first one was over hyped and i'm glad its different than the first

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

this album's really not that bad. some people forget how overrated their first one was. i don't think this one is much of a step down.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

"but i am glad they didn't try to "grow" and "experiment" as everyone else is trying to do to no AVAIL"

its better to try and change and fail than to write the same boring, cliche garbage.

SilentStorms (July 28, 2004)

I feel privileged to know that I hated this band from the first time I heard them (back with their first ripoff album). Thank god for me.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Excellent album. As good as TYAF? No... but how many albums in this genre are? I too miss John, and prefer him to Fred, but Fred does a damn good job and people should just accept the album and stop jumping on the bashing bandwagon.

Stop bitching.

theevilmonkey (July 28, 2004)

"This is a phenomenal record and an outstanding sophomore effort for a band that less than a year ago was about to implode. Most bands fall hard with their sophomore record, not release what is guaranteed to be a huge commerical hit and Victory Record's first Gold album.

This review on the other hand is terrible. It criticizes the band for writing half assed songs and the singer for appearing unenthusiastic, but this review is the most disingenuous and half assed reviews ever posted on this site.

Incredible, incredible record."

Hahahahahahaha. Stupid comment.

1) They did implode.

2) It wasn't half-assed. This guy clearly states he likes Taking Back Sunday. I have no reason not to believe him, seeing as I like Taking Back Sunday but think this is a terrible effort by the band. I don't think Adam Lazzara is unenthusiastic- but I don't think the music comes across as sincere. I remember hearing You're So Last Summer and hearing the desperation in Adam's voice as he sings "All I need to know is if I'm something that you'll be missing?" (not sure those lyrics are exactly correct). There's none of that on this record.

3. I don't consider the Backstreet Boys good because they had a few gold albums. I could care less about this album going gold. Or being a commercial success. Blink sold out and became a commercial success and now half of their original fans hate them. I congratulate them if they go gold, but it doesn't mean I want to listen to the album.

colin (July 28, 2004)

It criticizes the band for writing half assed songs and the singer for appearing unenthusiastic

isn't that what you're supposed to do when you review an album? weigh the pros and cons, analyze the song structure, originality, musicmanship, lyrics, and energy?

again, i'd like to second aubin (and thank you for the post) and ask someone to please review this record positively, while analyzing these points and not just saying... well, that it's going to be a commercial hit. justin timberlake is a commercial hit too.

www.youhavebadtasteinmusic.com

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

What's to be said that hasn't been said yet, excpet..... Taking Back Sunday.....hey at least their not Hawthorne Heights!

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

This is a phenomenal record and an outstanding sophomore effort for a band that less than a year ago was about to implode. Most bands fall hard with their sophomore record, not release what is guaranteed to be a huge commerical hit and Victory Record's first Gold album.

This review on the other hand is terrible. It criticizes the band for writing half assed songs and the singer for appearing unenthusiastic, but this review is the most disingenuous and half assed reviews ever posted on this site.

Incredible, incredible record.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

"I happen to think TBS is a fucking awful band and was made for teenie boppers"

lame

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

i like how everyone disrespects others' opinions...i love TBS but I respect anyone's disdain for them just as much as anyone's affinity for them...take a day off people.

Marlon (July 28, 2004)

I honestly don't see why Colin should die for thinking this CD is bad... I happen to think TBS is a fucking awful band and was made for teenie boppers. At least Colin used to like them, so I'll do Colin a favor and tell you all to direct your hate to me. Cause if you like TBS chances are I couldn't give two shits for what you think.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

"It appears that a lot of people have way too much of themselves invested in this band. Let's all calm down a bit shall we?"

I like how that guy said that and then ended up saying as much, if not more, of the same crap as everyone below him...douche.

kirbypuckett (July 28, 2004)

I love the comments in this thread.

...seriously though, I saw Scott waiting in line to get their autographs at the Warped Tour. Don't listen to his lies, he even hung out on their tour bus!

- Kirby

boba_fett (July 28, 2004)

wow. i dont like this band at all...

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

"I concur, Slowdance on the Inside is too Brand New for Taking Back Sunday"

jesus christ...

sleepwalk (July 28, 2004)

It appears that a lot of people have way too much of themselves invested in this band. Let's all calm down a bit shall we? I really like Tell All Your Friends, at the time it came out I felt it was catchy, somewhat original, and fun to listen and sing along to. And they put on a good live show. Lazarra however seems to be somewhat of a prick.

Then this cd comes out. First listen, and I'm a bit disappointed. Further listens, I start liking it a bit more. I really prefer the first album's production and mixing a lot more. I cannot stand the line "I got a bad feeling about this" - it's used OVER and OVER and OVER with no real purpose; I really hate over-repetitve lyrics. Doesn't even make sense, then the song has to end with screaming "I got it bad!". Pretty lame. Also, that slow song/'ballad' New American Classic, it's SUCH a massive attempt at being a prom theme (I agree with whoever said such further down below). The vocals are timid, it's a very mild, 'beautiful', lazy lovers' song. Unnecessary and formulated only to be exactly that. "We danced to Taking Back Sunday under the blue moon and then made sweet love as lovers do. And then she left me and now I'll cry and slit my wrists to dance in blood (or some 'shockingly' horrific line)".

One Eighty by Summer is a pretty sweet song - no complaints there. I also like the opener, and some of the others are only decent as of now. I concur, Slowdance on the Inside is too Brand New for Taking Back Sunday.

Regardless, besides a few complaints, I'm enjoying it a little more with each subsequent listen. I am a fan of the band so my mind is probably slightly biased so that I'm conforming to liking it more than I usually would. Sad but true. Oh well.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

I really, really, really like this album.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

John nolan did not write any of the music on tayf. Ed wrote and still writes all the music so to say john leaving ruined the music is bullshit.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

You know that people on this site are losing IQ points when you can't tell if half the comments in a review are trying to be sarcasticly stupid (i really hope your all joking), or maybe they are just REALLY that stupid.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

the first emo/screamo one hit wonder (but not the last)

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Tell All Your Friends was okay. Definately NOT as good as everyone thoughts.

I saw Taking Back Sunday two nights in a row when they played with Saves The Day. Terrible, terrible set.

From what I've heard of this album, they've gotten worse (if that's possible).

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

You people get too caught up in the whole Nolan-TBS series

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

You could see this crash coming from a mile away. i think everyone who is a tbs fan knew that nolan was very influential in the writing process and now it shows.

theevilmonkey (July 28, 2004)

Anybody who could ever consider Set Phasers To Stun a good song is completely devoid of all ability to think about music without bias. Sorry, guys, I'm a huge TBS fan, but even I can see that most of this is pure emotion-less garbage. But that opening track butchers all.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

if you didn't like the old album were you expecting to now become a fan?

if you don't like the old one nor this one...it shows they didn't go changing there style

chrisafi (July 28, 2004)

Agree with this review completely
TBS are now dead in my opinion.

I didn't even like the old album very much as it lacked a bit of punk kick, but this album is just sugar coating on everything.
It's... poor.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

good album...not as good as the first ...but i am glad they didn't try to "grow" and "experiment" as everyone else is trying to do to no AVAIL

inagreendase (July 28, 2004)

7/10- Not the best CD, but not as big of a letdown as say....War All The Time

Two questions: what are you on, and can you give me some?

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

I actually think this is damn near as good as the first one. Its not That overproduced and theres only 1 or 2 sub par songs on it. I think the lyrics are just as good too, they are a little more abstract and mature but I don't notice any 'gaping holes' and the song's structure's and musicianship doesn't seem any worse either. like the dudes in breaking pangea can't replace TBS's rhythm guitarist and generic bassist. I can't think of one standout bassline from the first album so who cares if they got a new one. And the new backup singer guy sounds as good as Nolan did, in a slightly cleaner way.

I don't know. "i know you know" "new american classic" "little devotional" the last song are all sick. "180 by summer" has a sweet ending, the first song is pretty good.

If you liked the first one i don't see how you couldnt like this.

#5 w/ a bullet is the only lacking song IMO

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

As my last post and as a fan of TBS- stop bashing the reviewer, not everyone listens to the same music- it was a good review- just b/c I may not agree with it doesn't give me, or anybody for that matter, the right to bash the guy

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Make your own decision. AP gave it 5/5, acclaimed punk gave it 8/10 and pastepunk is raving about it.... Kerrang gave it 3/5, here gave it 1/5, and ap.net, in the most blatantly personal bitter review of all time, gave it a zero I think- there's obiously not one clear aggreement as to how this CD actually is- download it, buy it, borrow it.... make up your own mind

aubin (July 28, 2004)

If you really disagree with this review and think that Where You Want to Be is the greatest thing ever, please submit a review. We'll gladly run a positive review if someone writes one (and it is legible.)

I shouldn't need to be said that we'll accept any coherant review, but with all the people attacking colin so viciously, I figured it needed to be repeated.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

I think people put too much personal emphasis on this band- While the CD is obviously not up to par as their last, it's not that bad. And when the criticism for a song is based soley on the title of it, that's just plain weak. As for sounding like Brand New? Stop sucking Brand New's dick. Stop sucking Taking Back Sunday's dick. It's music people, not a soap opera- Their cover art is bad? Who cares, what do you do, read it all day long?
Point is, if the CD sounded just like their last, they'd get bagged for being unoriginal. If it sounded different, which it did, they'd get bagged for being too different from the last.
Put all non-existant personal issues behind you and play the fucking cd
7/10- Not the best CD, but not as big of a letdown as say....War All The Time

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Some TBS fans have alot of hostility. Telling the reviewer he doesnt deserve to live because he doesn't like your favorite bands new cd? Jesus, grow up. Also, when you trash Kid Dynamite while praising TBS, you lose any & all credibility you may have had. You still deserve to live a long and happy life. Hey, it takes more muscles to frown than it does to smile! SO cheer up little buckaroo, & just remember that life is more than shaggy hair & tight t shirts.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

"I like what Fred has brought to the band on this cd. His voice works better with Adam's than John Nolan's did"

you are fucking retarded. That is part of what made Tell All Your Friends so good, was the way johns backups complimented adams, and the fact that john nolan is an awesome songwriter and the band sucks without him. Plus Michelle Nolan is hot.

Straylight > *

actually this cd isn't bad, i like every song except for the first one, but this album is no where near as good as tell all your friends. I didn't expect them to top that one though. Take what you can get, TAYF was too good for them to come out with something better.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

I love how when you don't like a pop-punk record it's always automatically attributed to the fact that you're too punk for the band.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Good god, I thought people could be civil and objective about this band/album for at least a day.

But anyway, this is a pretty good CD. I don't know if it's quite on par with TAYF just yet but we'll see after a few listens. I like what Fred has brought to the band on this cd. His voice works better with Adam's than John Nolan's did and you can sound the harder Breaking Pagnea influences all over the album. Set Phasers to Stun is an awesome song. No Adam's voice isn't always perfect pitch but that's fine by me. These guys remind me of a punk-ish (wouldn't want to offend you hardcores) version of the Rolling Stones (hey, a classic rock band, that'll piss them right off), not always perfect musically but they pull it off.

And, yes, I have developed a man-crush on Adam Lazarra, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

yeah, I agree about the jimmy kimmel performance, they wern't that good.

but hey, still an awesome band.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

"I've got a bad feeling about this" TV performance on Jimmy Kimmel !!

How crap they suck live, SOTY can play better than them.

colin (July 28, 2004)

normally i wouldn't respond to the purely idiotic comments that have been popping up in support of the record, but this one i have to:

he could careless about the music, he's getting paid to write reviews

excuse me? i went up to "reviews", clicked "submit review" and uh... "wrote the review." other than my poster contribution to the punknews.org tour, i have no affiliation with the website, don't know any of the admins, and certainly don't receive any sort of compensation for doing this.

as far as this being a "good album"... if you compare it to, say... avril lavinge, it's a "good album" because the band members can play their instruments and (most of the time) sing on key. even compare this album to largely popular screamo albums such as "war all the time" and it pales in comparison. this is not an emo album... it is a pop-punk record. it has no sense of compassion and lazarra seems bored with his vocals half the time. any words sung lose their meaning in the repetition, as honesty can't really shine through when it's the only goddamn thing you say in an entire song. in fact, i can't think of a song offhand that doesn't repeat a phrase over ten times on the whole album.

seriously folks, if you're 15 and under, i can understand why you're enjoying the melodies... but this is a bad, bad album. it's hardly listenable. the best part is, of all the "defense" this album has recieved in comments, i have yet to find a ligitimate one that doesn't involve an anonymous (and hence, very scary) death threat, or some 'witty' comment about my lack of musical knowledge.

keep it comin, kids.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Wow, this Colin kid really needs to sop trying to be cool, cause serisouly, it's not working whatsoever.

"maybe if I say the new tbs album is shit..maybe people will think i'm a rebel! OOOOOO"

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

What the fuck? If you're deticated to tayf, and don't like the new album cause of Adam's vocals, then you're not a real tbs fan. Kill yourself.

killyouridols (July 28, 2004)

generic.
no tbs typical melodies, no nothing, just generic emocore or whateveryouwanttocallitcore.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

shit band, shit music, shit lyrics, shit guitars, shit bass, shit drums

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

people really are tending to compare this to TAYF.. which i knew that tbs would have no chance of topping. but i really do think this release is good, though Fred really should have played a larger part in the vocal section.. he alone is fucking amazing and it seems like he was held back in his writing/singing. BP was a great band.. they'll be missed. and BP and old TBS is waaaaaay better than new TBS and Straylight Run

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Why does a cd NEED to have anthems? Just because every single song on the new cd doesn't have one liners like the old one had.("You could slit my throat....""Literate, stylish, kissable quiet""don't call my name out your window....""best friends means i pull the trigger, best friends means you get what you deserve...etc") It's still an awesome cd regardless. Colin is just a little ass monkey... he could careless about the music, he's getting paid to write reviews. Kid Dynamite sucks. Your music sucks. Other poster has a point, the object of emo/screamo is not to have a good voice, Adam isn't a pop singer... he doesn't have to sound like Tom Delonge. His voice is amazingly terrible. That would be the point, it's raw and it sounds amazing with the music. So fuck off.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Whoever wrote the last comment seriously needs to be a little bit ashamed of his stupidness ... every singer recording some vocals needs to somehow be a good singer and somehow hit the right note ... since when emo/screamo singers aren`t supposed to be good?!? If shitty music is alright for you then go ahead ... I also think this isn`t a bad record, but nothing compared to the brilliance of TAYF! This doesn`t suck, it`s just boring after listening to it for the third time and it lacks the anthems ("this is me with the words ...") ... and to put it straight, this year has already seen much more energetic releases like A Wilhelm Scream ... for now I`m off to my Lifetime, Kid Dynamite and Grey Area records ...

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Serisouly, you ass fucks have no idea what music is anymore. Alright just because they use "mosh"..? what the fuck? what does that have to do with the music? You obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Drink some bleach and die.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

"I should hang you from a ceiling fan while skinning you slowly then throw you into a pool of cyanide. No, you aren't worth the blood on my knife. I'll just shoot you and make it quick."

I am emo, hear me cry.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

It's Taking Back Sunday... you gave it a 1? I should hang you from a ceiling fan while skinning you slowly then throw you into a pool of cyanide. No, you aren't worth the blood on my knife. I'll just shoot you and make it quick.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

if you guys enjoy good music instead of getting so into being cool and trendy and going with the norm, then you could actually enjoy this record because it is good music. morons

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

I give it a fucking 10. I give it a fucking 10 because you're all fucking morons. First off, Emo/Screamo singers aren't supposed to sound like fucking good singers, thats the point of the genre you fucking idiots. Second, who the fuck cares if they took lyrics from Brand New, they're friends, they're allowed to. Third, it's fucking Taking Back Sunday, they're better then ALL the shit they play on MTV or any Radio station. Fourth, did I mention that you're all fucking morons? You pissants probably listen to fucking good charlotte.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

one word collin........die, thatd be all i waste on your pitiful excuse for a review

colin (July 28, 2004)

as for the last song, not only does it start like an electric guitar version of the Brand New acoustic song "soco", but like the song, the first words are "passed out"....and it also includes the term "sunday's best", just like the other song. now, this is obviously Brand New related, or taking back sunday are fucking idiots that let that seep into their brains thinking it was an original tune.

yes, you're right... it was one of those play-along parodies on brand new, because it was written when john was still in the band. chances are, he wrote it in there, not adam. and the old version is superb compared to the one on the disc... it's faster, has a different second guitar melody, and better backing vocals, and a speedier and nicer breakdown.

mikeinflames (July 28, 2004)

great album
i like it

ps someone review the new Terror .. it's fucking amazing

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

GrEaT aLbUm, AwFuL rEvIew...adam is like so hott, like almost as hott as chris from saves the day.

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

Anyone who didn't see this disaster coming is a fucking idiot.

ElVaquero (July 28, 2004)

great review, awful album

Anonymous (July 28, 2004)

However, the breakdown and ending of the song remind me of the days when this band had members with talent,

oh come the fuck on, you don't have to go that Goddamn far. If you knew anything, you'd know that their new bassist Matt is 80 times better than that other fucking shit head.

as for the last song, not only does it start like an electric guitar version of the Brand New acoustic song "soco", but like the song, the first words are "passed out"....and it also includes the term "sunday's best", just like the other song. now, this is obviously Brand New related, or taking back sunday are fucking idiots that let that seep into their brains thinking it was an original tune.

-Costanza

notfeelingcreative (July 28, 2004)

No, I don't think we need any more of this.

bemused (July 27, 2004)

I loved the first album, and will still buy this one. Hopefully it doesn't prove to be the equivalent of Atreyu's second Victory record (man, that band took a giant nosedive).

However, both bands are laughing in a bathtub full of cash right now.

-chris-

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Tate actually did not like the album either..... so I figured the album would be amazing if he disliked it. This band had always been a dirty little pleasure for me, but this cd just doesn't click for me like the other one.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

I think this album is decent enough. True, they no longer have the sound that made them TBS, and they have definetly lost all the emotion that filled their songs before. But it isnt horrible. Theses are still decent songs played admiably well. If this was there freshmen release I would have said that it wasnt horrible and the band showed potential. Sadly, comparing it to their last and it does seem dissapointing.

colin (July 27, 2004)

dude, just cause you knew the band doesn't mean they're still a good band.

seriously, this album is repetative pop shit, i would have just submitted that as a review but generally punknews reviews need to be a little more in depth. if i thought scott would have posted it, i would have had this be my review:

"repetative pop punk, bad music, worse singing, rock bottom songwriting. will be on trl."

to everyone else... i'm glad that everyone else hates this as much as i do, whether or not you used to like the band. i seriously thought the absolutepunk reaction of "OMG ITS LIKE SO GOOD" was gonna be the general consensus.

horrible album.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Let me get this straight I live on Long Island and I have been a fan of this band since Antonio was in the band singing and Adam was playing bass. They fucking ruled then and they still fucking rule today. I bought this album knowing that Taking Back Sunday never put out a bad tune, and what I got on "Where You Want To Be" is 11 fucking amazing songs that sound better than any other bands out there ay this moment in time. Ede Reyes to me deserves so much respect as he has been in alost every other band on Long Island until he formed Taking Back Sunday. Ed has been in some of the best to come out of Long Island such LIHC legends Mind Over Matter, Clockwise, early days of Inside, at one point The Movielife and to me Ed is finally getting the respect he deserves.

gladimnotemo (July 27, 2004)

2 out of 10.

Fantastic.

FortyMinutesWest (July 27, 2004)

But I can't spell.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

I wonder what these kids are thinking: http://www.interpunk.com/item.cfm?Item=14380&CFID=6878603&CFTOKEN =45588667

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

LiveJournal is a website.

Everyone's jumping the MySpace bandwagon lately.

FortyMinutesWest (July 27, 2004)

I'm ahead of the curve, I've always though this band sucked.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Oh, oh..
what do you cal the place wherel Spiderman eats, sleeps, and tells others of his personal life?

a website.

ha ha..a website.
get it?

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Sure, not as good as TAYF, but I love it.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Good Will Hunting.
Now that's a movie.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

I'd second that..but then I'd be a critic

inagreendase (July 27, 2004)

The same fuckers who are on here trashing this, ARE THE SAME FUCKERS WHO SUCKED TBS dicks' when they were on top.

Actually, TBS is poised to be more on top after first-week sales than they ever have.

And if this was released three months ago, "New American Classic" would be the theme song to everyone's junior prom. Pathetic.

There's a few good songs. That's it.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Definition of a critic: Someone who never gets laid, never creates anything of his/her own into the public, expert bitcher & whiner. Record reviews are useless. Listen to an album and use your own mind to decide if you like it yourself, don't rely on someone else to influence your thinking.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Where You Want To Pee?

In Adam Lazzara's mouth !!

ZING!

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Wait a minute, I'm 18. I'm also a male, who considers himself to listen to great music. I also enjoy playing sports.
Does this still put me in the stereo-typical catergory of the under-aged, defending teen?

- Adam

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

heh, if you wanna see how much talent Mr. Lazarra possesses, check out Jimmy Kimmel
..I mean, if you're in the mood for laughter (Pt. 2)

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Boring. Next.

lol

This review will receive more replies/comments than the others that are up now combined. The interest in this album is insane.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

i would bet my life that the only 2 people here defending this pathetic excuse for a band are both younger than 16. this band is so terrible they almost arent worth the 15 seconds of my life it is taking to type this.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

I apologize for swearing.
It's lazy, I know.

- Adam

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

can someone please post the old version of "slowdance on the inside" or where to get it.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Breaking Pangaea was a fantastic band. Then the members decided to split so they could be on MTV. Bad decision. BP was a million times the live band that TBS is. I love those dudes as people but Straylight Run can suck it and TBS is to emo what Winger was to hair metal. Lazarra is the problem. Someone should do his sister and kick him the fuck out of the band.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Fuck the title names of the songs, fuck how Tell All Your Friends sounds, fuck the cover art (for fuck sake), and fuck all you motherfuckers for claiming to have any idea what good music is.
Taking Back Sunday has more talent than each and every one of you will ever imagine embodying.
So, with all of this said, pull your lower lip back from the asshole of which your head has been occupying and smarten the fuck up.
- Adam

lostinthecrowd13 (July 27, 2004)

Nowhere near the old album. There are a few bearable songs but for the most part this cd is boring and the lyrics have lost a lot of their originality since Tell Your Friends.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Boring. Next.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

can someone spell Breaking Pangaea's name right?

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

this bands blows. my guess is next month the used bin with be overflowing with these.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Don't you dare say they lack talent, If you've ever heard Breaking Pangea then you'd understand how much those guys had to hold back and what they are actually capable of.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

Seriously folk, get a grip. This is a GREAT album. Losers. All of you.

opivykid (July 27, 2004)

What the hell is up with the cover?

TheMarc (July 27, 2004)

The production isn't at fault here; the shitty songwriting is. Major disappointment.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

I'm still waiting for the review of hazen st.

I already know that it's terrible, but I just want someone to give me a good chuckle.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

How can you be serious? I love this album, and i'm a pretty recent TBS fan. I love tell all your friends, and where you want to be sounds really great. I guess people either love it or hate it

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

I'm with Scott, Breaking Pangaea needs to get back together.

theevilmonkey (July 27, 2004)

I think you absolutely have to include The Union with this albums two or three good tracks- it's faster paced than most of the stuff TBS has done, and is one of the few tracks that makes me believe that TBS doesn't want to be caught pretending it still has John Nolan. It's a catchy as hell song.

You can't complain about the artwork. That's a stupid argument.

One thing I can say is that Fred's voice occasionally works really well with Adam's- they just have no idea what they're doing as far as tailoring a song to their respective abilities. One Eighty By Summer shows them bouncing off each other vocally very well , but sometimes it seems like the band believes Fred can't do anything more than have one line that he gets to repeat over and over- I understand, Fred, you have a bad feeling about this. So do I. But I think some criticism is undeserved- New American Classic is just a nice song, nothing special, but nothing horrible either- I don't see what's so bad. Sure, it's a pop song. But it's a very nice pop song.

The only thing I have left to say is that I hate how they do their lyric booklet. I want the lyrics, not a f*cking pretend diary. Just give me the goddamn lyrics as they were written. None of this fancy bullcrap. And that Victory Records sampler that came with the CD was even more atrocious than the actual album itself. And for the records, the new Straylight Run track sucks absolute balls.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

"Slowdance On The Inside" is the only good track. i heard john nolan was still in the band when they wrote it. maybe that's why it is much different from the rest of the album. it actually sounds like old tbs.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

actually, i thought this band sucked from the start, and suck even more now. i would be embarassed to let my friends hear my music if i was in a band this lame.

who wants to be known as the band that "brought screamo to the masses" ? you'd be nothing but a joke, which they are.

shraps (July 27, 2004)

I didn't think it was that horrible. I mean it is obvious they lost some of the intelligent lyrics with the leaving of Nolan, but I thought that New American Classic was a pretty good song, as well as a couple others... Not nearly as good as TAYF though.

-shraps

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

The same fuckers who are on here trashing this, ARE THE SAME FUCKERS WHO SUCKED TBS dicks' when they were on top. You deserve to revel in your shame for wasting your time on this shit. Now Lifetime that is a band.

Barkley"Turnpike Gates"Barkster

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

People need to stop comparing this album to TAYF.

Sure, it's different, but it's still damn good.

threechordsandthetruth (July 27, 2004)

Good review.

Adam Lazarra has the smug look of a guy who can give himself a blow job.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

how did Lifetime come up in this?

I mean they do beat the living shit outta Taking Back Sunday

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

its going to be funny when the only fans this band has left are 12 year old girls who dont know any better. or did that already happen?

mykindofmurder (July 27, 2004)

also, the artwork reminds me way to much of the Cure's "Galore" album. fuck this band.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

yeah the old version of ...slowdance on the inside is nothing like the new one, so you're way off the mark.

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

terrible band, planes mistaken for stars is way better

they get the five star review http://punknews.org/reviews.php?op=albumreview&id=3144

Anonymous (July 27, 2004)

i'm sure the overproduction on the vocals was due to the fact that this guy can't really sing. He's the kelly osbourne of indie.

also i'm pretty sure the other dudes quit cause the singer is a total dick.

sciulli (July 27, 2004)

I listened to the whole thing on MTV.com, and it's because a forgetable version of "Tell All Your Friends."

I still think you'd really like it though if you like their first one.

mykindofmurder (July 27, 2004)

my favorite Liftime song would have to be Turnpike Gates.

jacobe (July 27, 2004)

Early STD had more to it when it was done by the band Lifetime.

mykindofmurder (July 27, 2004)

HORRIBLE REVIEW.

first of all, i didnt want your opinion on their 2002 effort. so yeah, scratch the first half of your review.

new american classic is not all that bad of a song, but it shows how little adam knows about singing. slowdance on the inside is the BIGGEST BRAND NEW RIPOFF TO DATE. that song is so incredibly similiar to Socco Amaretto Lime. sucks.

maverick (July 27, 2004)

I've only heard two tracks off this - "Bonus Mosh Pt. 2" and whatever the single's called - and they were awful. Absolutely awful. Fred, please bring back Breaking Pangaea!

-Scott

stevejonestherealbones (July 27, 2004)

i havent heard this, but this shit deserves one star to no stars for using the word "mosh" and also for using it in such a lame way. Bonus mosh part 2? so gay

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

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