Fordirelifesake - Dance.Pretend.Forget. Defend (Cover Artwork)


Fordirelifesake: Dance.Pretend.Forget. DefendDance.Pretend.Forget. Defend (2004)
Thorp Records

Reviewer Rating: 4

Contributed by: theundergroundscenetheundergroundscene
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One of the worst tragedies in music is when something like filler brings down an album's score that would otherwise be perfect. Such is the case with Fordirelifesake's Dance.Pretend.Forget.Defend. The absolutely crazy technical metalcore found on Dance.Pretend.Forget.Defend. is without a doubt s.
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One of the worst tragedies in music is when something like filler brings down an album's score that would otherwise be perfect. Such is the case with Fordirelifesake's Dance.Pretend.Forget.Defend.

The absolutely crazy technical metalcore found on Dance.Pretend.Forget.Defend. is without a doubt some of the best in the genre, chock full of time changes, guitar noodling, breakdowns, and brutal screaming (with some tasteful melodic vocals). Fordirelifesake have done the near-impossible in metalcore; they've coined a sound that is, at its core, their own. Don't ask me what it is; it's just something that sets Fordirelifesake apart from the rest of the pack. It could very well lay in the immense talent the band has, or the extremely tight songwriting, or it could be somewhere else, but Fordirelifesake's sound is distinct. Regardless, the music found here is top-notch, and Matthew Wedge's throaty screams are as brutal as ever.

However, the problem does not lie in the songs themselves. There are twelve tracks on Dance.Pretend.Forget.Defend., but essentially, there are only eight, including an acoustic song and a cover, which some would consider to bring the count down to six. The six Fordirelifesake-esque songs are absolutely fantastic, and the acoustic song isn't half bad either (with female vocals al all), but when coupled with four instrumentals, it almost feels a bit‚?¶cheap. I feel like there should be so much more material on here, but there isn't, and that disappoints me. Granted, the 50-second opener "Exhale" is a nice lead into the blistering second track "Recover," and there are some all right moments (like the techno break) in "From Tragedy To Imaginary," but I can't help but feel like there could be some great songs in place of there with a little more work from the band. The Nine Inch Nails cover of "March of the Pigs" is nice for a few listens (it is played particularly well), but shortly becomes novelty. One more thing is that after a few tracks there is a nothing more than a tiny muted guitar part that lasts for an extra minute after the song is done, and it makes for an aggravating experience whilst you keep reaching for the skip track button. All in all, I feel like the effort to put out a real full-length was a little on the lesser side, and I also feel like I could be listening to the album of the year, had there been two or three real songs instead of cheap interludes.

I'm done hating for now. As for the good songs, "Recover" is the metalcore song of the year, hands down. From the sweet dual melodic vocals in the intro to the rip-you-a-new-asshole breakdown at the end, this track is absolute heaven for any fan of the genre. "Something Missing" starts with a pretty unusual yet satisfying drum machine beat, and then tears into another blistering metalcore anthem which leads into "Dependant On Affection," which boasts some pretty damn technical riffage and a very pretty outro (which, might I add, needs to be cut down a good two minutes, since it drags on for three and a half). "We Are the Company We Keep" starts of dangerously close to an emo-punk song, but steers clear of that genre with off-kilter beats and huge breakdowns. The middle of the song brings back the outro from "Four Letter Lie" (off of the band's fantastic Breathing in Is Only Half the Function re-release) and it makes for a nice touch. The two songs towards the end of the album, "Ammunition For Your Conversation" and "Twenty-Nine Minutes Defend Twenty-Two Years," seem to be random parts thrown together at first with little transition, but end up making themselves into decent songs in the end, with major points going to "Twenty-Nine Minutes‚?¶"'s awesome guitar solo. The album ends on a sour note with "The End of the Beginning," a repeated riff for five minutes with no vocals, ten more minutes of silence, and a shitty recording of God-knows-what at the end. An upsetting end to what could've been a fantastic album.

Dance.Pretend.Forget.Defend. had potential to be a defining metalcore disc. Instead, through too much filler, we've got one of those albums that make people wonder "If only‚?¶" If you can avoid the shittier songs, there is lots and lots of great music to be found here, but as a whole, the filler takes away from the amount of stars this gets.

Standout Tracks:
"Something Missing"
"Dependant On Affection"
"We Are The Company We Keep"


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Tangy (May 13, 2008)

holy nuts this album is good

moneenerd (April 25, 2005)

this is their worst release, which is a shame, because they were one of my all time favorite bands. maybe becuz of so many line-up changes? all the real metalheads in the band are gone?

Anonymous (November 12, 2004)

How come nobody pointed out the hidden track on the end that sounds like the Darkness? I think this review is absolutely dead on. Great 5 1/2 song CDEP, but contracts are contracts.

Anonymous (October 18, 2004)

This CD is freaking awesome. I don't care what anyone else says. :)

Anonymous (October 15, 2004)

The subtleties of this album highlight the depth and diversity of this band as musicians. To ignore the instrumentals and interludes would be like reading only the first and last sentences of every paragraph in a great book. True, some of the songs are slightly long to the point of pretentiousness but the interludes serve a vital role in the general tone of this album. A more discriminating ear would have noticed that while the outro appears to be rather repetitive, there is actually some excellent bass work being done. Remember everything is done for a reason.

Anonymous (October 15, 2004)

I don't see a problem with the "instrumental tracks." They're interludes, and I don't think they disrupt the flow of the record. The NIN cover, however, disrupts the flow because NIN is such a terrible band, and it was the mistake of the century to choose that song to cover. However, FDLS clearly made the most palatable rendition of anything Trent Reznor's ever done.

I also don't see a problem with the final track, as if a band has never had an outro loop for an extended period of time, followed by a hidden track of some sort. So they did a hair metal song, it's a joke. Get with it.

Overall, I see no issue with an instrumental song, considering the strong point of this band is clearly the instruments. With the most ridiculous guitarists in metalcore, with the tightest rhythm section to back them up, I don't see why you would be opposed to a track without the not-as-impressive vocalist.

Metalcore is 99% shit. Fordirelifesake are part of the other 1%.

bogey4 (October 15, 2004)

Did the use of "metalcore" five times in this reveiw seem excessive? That having been said, great review, the filler definately pisses me off as well and the NIN cover is no where near as good as the original.

Anonymous (October 15, 2004)

"Dude, I'd be careful if I were you. Last time there was a poster using the name Scott, Kirby killed him and hid the body under a bunch of H20 CDs."

ok dick cheney

that's some fucked up shit

using scare tactics on my ass

-the other scott

FortyMinutesWest (October 14, 2004)

Dude, I'd be careful if I were you. Last time there was a poster using the name Scott, Kirby killed him and hid the body under a bunch of H20 CDs.

Anonymous (October 14, 2004)

"on my copy that i downloaded, there are no instrumentals."

That's why you should buy records.

Anonymous (October 14, 2004)

Best record by a heavy band in a long time.

Anonymous (October 14, 2004)

dear kirby,

after nearly two years of posting anonymously, i have decided to start using my name, which happens to be scott, i also happen to be a big guy, like the other scott

i hope its not asking too much to use the moniker "the other scott", and what the fuck do you need two names for? that's bullshit

anyways, i hope you'll consider

-the other scott for now

Anonymous (October 14, 2004)

it bothers me when people put down a cd when their copy is clearly a pre-release promo, when in actuality the cd is genius.

Anonymous (October 14, 2004)

on my copy that i downloaded, there are no instrumentals.

Anonymous (October 14, 2004)

everyone that says this band sucks clearly has no opinion or has never heard them.

Anonymous (October 14, 2004)

Fordirelifesake is an awesome band. I am a fan and I have seen them more times than I can count on my fingers.
First of all I think this cd is one I despise the most. I enjoy the intro a lot and then after recover I just get bored and pop in another one. Check out their split with Deluge. That cd has probaly the best songs ever created. Also their first cd selt-titled ep and their split with Wafflehouse is good. As far Breahing in is only half the function. It contains some great songs in there but I wouldn't put them at the top like their others. Give these guys a try out if you have time. Instead of making comments about how you hate metalcore do something more important with your time. Music isn't the same in a particular genre.

Anonymous (October 14, 2004)

metal sucks, metalcore isn't cool you stupid fucks, the bands are only in it for the bucks, and if you don't believe me you're a schumck

yaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh hoooooooo

-the other scott

ooooh no!

You've got to get a new name.

I'm the other Scott. You're 3rd on the list, back up and get your own handle brah!

- Kirby/Scott_2

Anonymous (October 14, 2004)

Holy shit! I didn't know this had come out. I am picking this bad boy up today!

FDLS is fucking fantastic.

Anonymous (October 13, 2004)

metal sucks, metalcore isn't cool you stupid fucks, the bands are only in it for the bucks, and if you don't believe me you're a schumck

yaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh hoooooooo

-the other scott

slippy (October 13, 2004)

What sets Fordirelifesake apart from other metalcore bands is that one guitarist who is in constant shred mode.

FortyMinutesWest (October 13, 2004)

This album is pretty disappointing, their older stuff is much better.

Anonymous (October 13, 2004)

This album blows. Anybody want a free promo of it. Oh wait too bad I threw it in the trash a couple of weeks ago.

Anonymous (October 13, 2004)

this record was suppose to be an ep at first and then their record label just add some shit to it.

Anonymous (October 12, 2004)

The track "Something's Missing" is absolutely essential (the REAL best track onthe CD!). There IS way too much filler on this CD! The intro track sounds almost identical to the worse song (that VERY emo one) on that Nevea Tears CD!

Anonymous (October 12, 2004)

fordirelikesake.....more like fordyeyourhairblack

punkcorekid (October 12, 2004)

i rather liked this cd.

Anonymous (October 12, 2004)

"Uh, or the Presbyterian Church."

hahaha. Good one.


maverick (October 12, 2004)

Uh, or the Presbyterian Church.


Anonymous (October 12, 2004)

That giant flame logo on the cover belongs to Hot Water Music.


musical-monkey (October 12, 2004)

i had liked the stuff i had heard from this band on their earlier albums but i was not too impressed by this. the female singing threw me off on the second or third track (dont remember)

Jesse (October 12, 2004)

This band sucks solely on it's name and the name of it's album. There's no reason to cover "March of Pigs." That song is just fine the way it is.

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