yeahhhhhh......!!!

I miss song's like "Carry On" and "At the end of the day". I wish there was a band out there that played stuff like that.

"Goldfinger was never good live. they always fuck up and aside from that
john fledman already destroyed the band"

Dude...Even though their music sucks now...Goldfinger are still an amazing band to see live. They have a lot of energy. And their drummer is amazing to watch...not just his drumming, but his crazy antics. He's the only reason I still go see them play.

And yeah...John has ruined that band. He doesn't seem to get that though. They should just pack it in.

Goldfinger was never good live
they always fuck up and aside from that
john fledman already destroyed the band
he wrote all the stupid lame ass songs that dont make sense aside not just shoving his vegan beliefs inton our faces and well they just suck
period
i feel sorry for my childhood friend he named his son: timothy john
which is timothy of rancid and
john feld man of fucking goldfinger
what a lame ass
wel;l what can i say
he's a dumb filipino/

Dont you hate it when you like a band, and then they became famous and all over the mtv,media and shit and then your lame ass neighbor started getting into them too and what's worst he started singing along to it early in the morning and it bugs you waking up to it, it does happen to me
i have this beaner neighbors back then and i have the stupide sublime cd like 2 years before brad died and then i use to play it so loud in the day and my beaner neighbor asked what the hell am i listening to and i said sublime and the following week he started playing that dman same cd which kinda pisses me off and well i think i kinda lost my cool factor.
so the moral of the story: suck my dick/eat my poop yOU
scumbugs

RBF's newest is much more like their old stuff, more than Cheer Up was, Less Than Jake's new songs sound very much like something off of Losing Streak, and a Match and Some Gasoline is a like a mix between Destruction By Defintion and Battle Hymns.

The RBF statement is arguable, and they did have a period where it could very much be said that they were a basic pop-rock outfit.

Less Than Jake haven't put those songs to record, yet.

Suicide Machines definitely had their more overtly poppy period. I'm not talking about A Match... in this context.

LTJ played 2 new songs at their recent show in cleveland and YES they did sound like rockview/losing streak songs. both had ska verses.

paul
kappa delta rho fratboy

"was that supposed to be a joke?"

No, I'm not talking about Anthem/ B Is For B-Sides, I'm talking about the new stuff they played on the recent, the stuff that's going to be on the new album. Those sound like their old stuff.

"Less Than Jake's new songs sound very much like something off of Losing Streak"

was that supposed to be a joke?

I don't understand why the reviewer put LTJ, RBF, the Suicide Machines in with Goldfinger. RBF's newest is much more like their old stuff, more than Cheer Up was, Less Than Jake's new songs sound very much like something off of Losing Streak, and a Match and Some Gasoline is a like a mix between Destruction By Defintion and Battle Hymns. Goldfinger is the only one that really plays pop-punk.

"This is how rumors get started.. you have "heard from a few people." Whoever told you that pulled it out of their ass, because there's no truth to that ridiculous statement at all. Darrin loves the new stuff.. not to mention that their most punk album (Stomping Ground) was released AFTER Hang-Ups."

Um...he thought Stomping Ground was good. But he does NOT love the new stuff. You don't know him. Don't put words in his mouth.

haha, i didn't mean verbose...i mean...whatever that word is that means you have a large vocabulary and can intelligently convey ideas. nofx seem to lack whatever that word is...and so do I !!

paul

" and not verbose (if thats the word i'm lookin for)"

I hope that was intentional, because its funny as hell.

haha, thanks KERMIT, but before you praise me too much go look and see what I said about fall out boy....I took a soaring leap off the cred cliff on that one.

paul

"also, anyone who says "nofx shouldnt be political" is either a complete moron, or just somehow unaware that nofx put out albums before the year 2000(including liberal animation which is composed mostly of songs condemning vegan preaching, but thats another tangent altogether.)"

ironically, fat mike became a vegetarian in 1999 or 2000...and has openly admitted the hypocrisy of 'vegetarian mumbo jumbo' and apologized...funny.

thats most peoples gripes w/ nofx...theyr'e just too sarcastic and not verbose (if thats the word i'm lookin for) to pull off political punk. it just comes off as well intentioned but not educated. 'war on errorism' was just an overkill. 'the decline' pulled off political views much more subtely and better. man the decline is good

paul

"well left wing politics are certainly more wide spread in the punk/emo/hardcore/whatever community than is veganism. while being a vegan is certainly accepted in these circles, its not as wide spread, and thus, being preached to about it seems to stand out mroe than 'fuck bush's imperialism' cuz A. 90% of punks are liberal and agree while i'd say maybe 10% of punks are vegan... see what i mean?"

But why preach to the choir?
Thats what so many of these bands are doing these days. The vast majority of their fans already agree with them, so its safe to do what they're doing.
What John does, on the other hand, takes guts. And I respect him for that. Look at how much shit he gets from people.

"I've heard from a few people that he hated the direction their albums went in after Hang-Ups because he's a huge punk rock fan...but he refused to quit in the hopes that they'd eventually go back to their original sound."

This is how rumors get started.. you have "heard from a few people." Whoever told you that pulled it out of their ass, because there's no truth to that ridiculous statement at all.
Darrin loves the new stuff.. not to mention that their most punk album (Stomping Ground) was released AFTER Hang-Ups.
Way to go kid.

also, anyone who says "nofx shouldnt be political" is either a complete moron, or just somehow unaware that nofx put out albums before the year 2000(including liberal animation which is composed mostly of songs condemning vegan preaching, but thats another tangent altogether.)

This score is for: As far as I've heard from my buddy Matt who goes on their forums..

but i agree with SkolarX, goldfinger was never very good, but they were decently known, so when you told people that you liked ska, they assumed you like goldfinger, & that made me want to take a lye-shower.

damn score's for paul, he is PWNING feldman left and right. FUCK THAT OVER THE HILL PIECE OF SHIT. HE GIVES US VEGANS A BAD NAME.

-KERMIT

i don't criticize vegans or anything, i think its a potentially very humane and healthy lifestyle...but that doesnt mean shove it in my face how fucked up i am cuz i eat meat. thats just rude.

I mean I go to the gym several days a week, because it helps me stay in shape. I don't go up to my friends who don't lift and get in their face and preach to them about hte benefits of working out. if they asked me, then fine, i'd tell them whatever info they want. just like if i want to try being a vegan , i'll ask about it. don't shove it in my face and yell at me to 'wake up wake up!!!' like feldman does. fuck you. you wake up you fat fuck, and go to the gym.

paul

Ok, somebody made a good point someplace below so here goes: Score is for Anti-Flag, Goldfinger, and Fat Mike.

Phew. Covered all my bases...kind of like the speedy trio of Carl Crawford, Rocco Baldelli and Joey Gathright. GO DRAYS!! WOO!

have you ever seen meet your meat?
www.meetyourmeat.com

i don't see how people can criticize vegans after watching that.

these guys are the tampa bay devil rays of punk rock.

"Consider someone else...go vegan or go fuck yourself"

-Propagandhi

"yea i feel bad for darrin being stuck in that band, but whatever, it pays the bills and it seems like it was fun up until feldman lost his songwriting ability and became a producer"

yeah. I feel bad for Darrin too. Everyone who has ever met him says he's the nicest fucking guy in the world. He must also be the most patient to deal with that crap.

yea i feel bad for darrin being stuck in that band, but whatever, it pays the bills and it seems like it was fun up until feldman lost his songwriting ability and became a producer

"i think most of us know that...but they're guilty by association w/ the dork."

That's not fair. Especially to their drummer who has been there from the beginning. I've heard from a few people that he hated the direction their albums went in after Hang-Ups because he's a huge punk rock fan...but he refused to quit in the hopes that they'd eventually go back to their original sound. I feel sorry for the guy. 10 years of his life wasted. That's gotta feel shitty.

"It's not GOLDFINGER'S choice to have songs about veganism...It's JOHN FELDMANN'S! Jeez. C'mon people...ask anyone who knows the band. They'll tell you. He's ruined that band"

i think most of us know that...but they're guilty by association w/ the dork.

well left wing politics are certainly more wide spread in the punk/emo/hardcore/whatever community than is veganism. while being a vegan is certainly accepted in these circles, its not as wide spread, and thus, being preached to about it seems to stand out mroe than 'fuck bush's imperialism' cuz A. 90% of punks are liberal and agree while i'd say maybe 10% of punks are vegan... see what i mean?

also its the source...its one thing for a political band like rise against to 'preach' to me or propaghandi...when it comes from john feldman and a band like goldfinger, it just seems so much more cocky, condescending and trite.

and btw, there ARE a lot of people who bitch about politics in music....see the review for the last nofx album for evidence...there is many a 'nofx shouldnt preach politics cuz fat mike is dumb as dirt' posts in response to their last album and its political overtones. the same goes for other poli-punk bands. i mena really, there are just as many punk music fans who hate anti-flag as there are those who love them

hope that cleared things up

paul

It's not GOLDFINGER'S choice to have songs about veganism...It's JOHN FELDMANN'S! Jeez. C'mon people...ask anyone who knows the band. They'll tell you. He's ruined that band.

someone please explain to me why its ok for other bands to preach about politics (mostly left-wing) in over half their songs, but its not ok for goldfinger to have one or two songs about veganism? whats the difference?

oh and 'stomping ground' despite being ska less (although the verses to 'carry on' are kinda ska tinged) is still worlds better than 'disconnection notice' which has like 3 good songs on it. throwing 2 ska songs (one of which has that dumb bitch talking about animals the whole time over it) on their new album does not redeem them.

rbf came back much stronger after the spotty 'cheer up' (which is still better than the last 2 goldfinger albums) w/ 'we're not happy til your not happy' which is a true return to form (even if the production is very raw)

paul

yea, the fact is, Feldman still had that huge rant in the liner notes about being a vegan and it was very condecending (in the album 'open your eyes'). i remember a line along the lines of 'you can learn more in the time it takes you to watch the real world or whatever you retarded kids do w/ your time instead of learning how sick you are for eating animals'. he also let those politics directly influence a few songs that also had condescending themes (you can't tell me 'open your eyes' the song isn't directly preachy and rude, cmon 'a gun to the head just so you can be fed'? fuckin guilt trip and stupid).

fuck him

paul

"As for his vegan preaching, he only made mention of being a vegan during the last song of the encore, Fuck Ted Nugent. And to anyone who's ever heard the song before they would understand why"

Well yeah, it's part of what's made them so massively unliked by their old fanbase, of course he cut most of that shit out, but the label stuck.

This score is for a possible Best of Goldfinger where half the songs are from the s/t, there's a decent selection from Hang-ups, and just one or two apiece from each release since then. Oh and scratch that 9/11 song with Good Charlotte and Mest too.

that was a good laugh.

The ONLY reason Brian pretends he is vegan is because he is a fucking pussy who is afraid of losing his job...so he sucks up to John and pretends to be vegan. A friend of a friend of mine was on the road with them and saw him eating stuff that had milk and egg products ALL the time. And when he was asked about it he said..."please don't tell John." Pussy.

I saw them on their most recent tour with The Start and they still put on a sick show with lots of oldies thrown in.

As for his vegan preaching, he only made mention of being a vegan during the last song of the encore, Fuck Ted Nugent. And to anyone who's ever heard the song before they would understand why.

I believe I've said this before but fuck Ingrid Newkirk and her extremist views. There's plenty of other ways to support treating animals more humanely than being associated with a group with such ridiculous outlooks as PETA.

Also my friend saw Goldfinger headlining live a couple years back and he said John Feldmann preached so much "think of the animals" talk between the songs that their own fans started to heckle him about it and the album booklet for "open your eyes" was filled with vegan propaganda. Just because they only dedicate one or two songs to it doesn't mean they aren't preaching a little excessively.

Heh. The song only "hinted" at his vegan views? It had Ingrid fuckin' Newkirk on it. That song wouldn't have been so bad if I didn't have to hear her dumbass talking the entire time.

Don't worry guys, I'm here to translate that last comment. Here goes:

"I love Copeland. Everything else is unimportant. I suck."

"But the only one in Goldfinger who is vegan is John."

wrong. Brian, the guitarist, is vegan.

their newest album only had one song on it that even hinted that factory farming is cruel (which it is), so i would hardly call that "preaching".

let's see.. one song on the new goldfinger cd is about veganism, while more than half of the songs on most punk albums coming out today are political. yet i dont hear nearly as many people whining about how bands like Bad Religion are constantly "preaching" and alienating their fans.
grow up. if you dont agree with the lyrics, then big deal. its not the end of the world.

and to the people who said GF completely abandoned their ska roots - Disconnection Notice was the first album since Hang-Ups that had horns in it. not that horns automatically qualify a song for being ska, but its more than what Stomping Ground had.

they pound meat and then eat it. or vice versa.

why is it bad to eat meat?

It's because gay people do it.

If you think about it, if this "god" really does exist, he must have put Bush in power, meaning all religious people would have to support him, otherwise they'd be going against the will of their god. Just like any other bad event in the world.

When the president talks to God, are his conversations brief or long?

Score is for the movie "Goldfinger"....now if oddjob would only perform his magic on this band we'd be all set.

-Ken

Meat is bad for you or something. And they have to kill animals in a bad way to get you that meat.

But the only one in Goldfinger who is vegan is John. It's his beliefs that he's pushing on people. As far as I've heard from my buddy Matt who goes on their forums...the guitar player is a vegetarian, and the bass player eats meat and the drummer only eats chicken or something like that.

why is it bad to eat meat?

vegans make the best sounds ever ;)

The s/t is a damn good fun album, I listened to it all the time for my first few years of high school. Since then this band has been on a steady decline (hang-ups - good; ep - pretty good; stomping ground - ok; open your eyes - poor; that new one - I dunno, the mp3s and losing the logo made this band way too dead to me to bother checking it out)

Anyway the allotment of songs is all wrong although it's hard to blame them for refusing to admit they've gotten progressively worse. I find it funny that this album even exists.

i've met the band a couple times after some shows, and it seems to me like john is the ringleader......it's more the john feldmann band now rather than a group effort. the other members don't get credit for their efforts.

Don't blame anything Goldfinger does on the rest of the band. Blame it all on John Feldmann. He runs that band like a dictator. It's his way or no way. The other members either do what he says...or they quit. Hence their first bass player and guitar player quitting. The other band members are just innocent bystanders. This band will break up...and it will be very soon...and it will be all Feldmann's fault. Don't hate the other three members for the shitty music Goldfinger now puts out....they have absolutely no choice in the matter.

i'm so high

much be a short dvd

heh, vegan reich.

Score is for ANYONE, ANYONE, who turns all preachy and all up in your face ABOUT ANYTHING, especially when they decide to get zealotous about something later on into their lives coughbecauseitwastrendycough after playing shitty poppy shitty shit.

Remember the dude from Vegan Reich? His father was like the mayor of some city in California, then he advocated killing all non-vegans, got bored of that became a Muslim and now backs the stance of Al-Queda?

Just a hint Goldfinger. Planting seeds.

S/T and Hangups on one cd, thats a best of, man if only Feldmann could understand that if he goes back to the way they sounded then, they would sell much more than they do now, they are probably the only band around that literally deserves no respect.

Has anyone heard a band called Malkovich? Is it good?

Man, I saw this album in the record shop and pointed it out to my friend who's a big Goldfinger fan. "Man, that's got to be one short CD."

"I loved the s/t and 'hang ups'....but 'open your eyes' and 'disconnection notice' tarnished my memory of them, and feldman's vegan preaching and shitty band producing ways have pretty much ruined what were once some of my favorite cd's. i just can't even make it through 'superman' w/o thinking 'this is the same asshole who brought us the used, story of the year, and yelled at me for eating meat in their shittyest song 'open your eyes'. add to that list of complaints the fact that they mostly abandoned their ska roots after their second album (when it became 'uncool' to be ska) and I just can't take it. fuck you feldman. "

That pretty much hits the nail on the head.

-adam

I already own this, its called "S/T".

-sickboi

fuck this out of touch, horrible, old bald dude band. fuck it.

The best of goldfinger is like releasing the Best of Yanni.

"my guess is that the label is putting it out so that they will have fulfilled their contract and they can drop goldfinger without having to pay them anything. the band probably isn't getting a dime from the best of, much like what happened with the suicide machines. "

i'd put bank on that too...

paul

I loved the s/t and 'hang ups'....but 'open your eyes' and 'disconnection notice' tarnished my memory of them, and feldman's vegan preaching and shitty band producing ways have pretty much ruined what were once some of my favorite cd's. i just can't even make it through 'superman' w/o thinking 'this is the same asshole who brought us the used, story of the year, and yelled at me for eating meat in their shittyest song 'open your eyes'. add to that list of complaints the fact that they mostly abandoned their ska roots after their second album (when it became 'uncool' to be ska) and I just can't take it. fuck you feldman.

even in his latest AP interview feldman admits he considers his primary job producing now and goldfinger is now secondary. what an asshole. fuck you and fuck your band you 40 year old sellout.

seriously, no one band defines sellout quite like goldfinger in my eyes. offspring are close. i really can't think of many others...(good charlotte et al. don't count cuz those types of bands were never underground or had punk ethics to begin w/)

paul

"that came out fast. if it wasnt for this site, i wouldnt have even known it was in the works...
their website makes no mention of it. weird.
they must have put it out quickly to make some sales after that aweful 'disconnection notice" "

my guess is that the label is putting it out so that they will have fulfilled their contract and they can drop goldfinger without having to pay them anything. the band probably isn't getting a dime from the best of, much like what happened with the suicide machines.

that said, i don't like this band. i was huge into the ska scene when they first came out and i remember getting stuck having to see them a few times when they opened for less than jake and again when they opened for the voodoo glowskulls and thinking they were horrible. the first 2 records had a couple of decent songs but that was it. mable is probably the only song that could make me dig through my cds to find a goldfinger cd anymore. needless to say, i'll be passing on this one

goddamn, pack it up boys.

So does this album consist of one song?

What the Best of Finch hasn't come out yet?

I'll buy it.

Remember the good times, folks, remember the good times.

Joe

has anybody ever listened to satelitte radio? the dousche on the punk station plays brownfinger all fucking day long. sucks.

These guys make vegans sound bad

score is for the person who had to listen to every shitty goldfinger song to compose a best of and still managed to not kill himself. you got my sympathy

-Oli

"Everything after their first couple of records has been progressively worse. Feldmann blew it big time when he decided to stop writing fun ska-punk and started down the preachy vegan road. Ick.

-adam"

That's pretty harsh coming from you, Adam. You usually give everyone the benefit of the doubt.

i don't like this band.

vegans suck.

that came out fast. if it wasnt for this site, i wouldnt have even known it was in the works...
their website makes no mention of it. weird.
they must have put it out quickly to make some sales after that aweful 'disconnection notice"

...and that just may be the least creative cover art ive ever seen...
what happened to these guys? im finding less and less to like about them these days...

Thanks, fixed.

Everything after their first couple of records has been progressively worse. Feldmann blew it big time when he decided to stop writing fun ska-punk and started down the preachy vegan road. Ick.

-adam

I think it came out on the jive label.

I liked Superman and Here in Your Bedroom back in 1997. I will admit that. But since then? Utter crap.