very average

you sir, are such a fucking dumbass. do your fucking research before you critisize a perfectly good album.

"i dont know if they're trying to be funny..."
-have you seen their videos dumbass? yes they are. thats what they're all about.

"most of you are in your 20's, act like it."
-once again, Deryck is the oldest in the band and when they came out with this album, he was 18. dumbass.

"most of the songs seem like they were written in 3 minutes to fill um the CD"
-God damn... how stupid can one human being be? fuck... ITS AN EP!!!! its not a actuall ALBUM!!! its an EP!! of course the songs arent going to be as long of as well written. good god.

this shows Sum 41 back in the day when bands had fun with there music. it is up there for their best release to date.

i got this album from my friend i traded this for a crappy compilation i made and some cd with a hole in it

First off I'm a big fan of Sum 41 but yeah this cd is pretty awful except for a few tracks. The only reason i bought this cd was for "Makes no Difference".

Sum 41 have changed a lot since this abysmal poorness.
Makes No Difference is definatly the best track, but I don't even like that song.

The harder stuff on DTLI is much better, and the day they said
"Hey, our old stuff is actually about as good as contracting genital herpes" was a great day for punk lovers everywhere

This cd is ok, not there best, so what if its not straight between the eyes punk, im sure they wouldnt claim they were, but its closer to punk than metal or jazz or country etc, its in-between punk and pop, ie pop-punk, so its still punk and yes its also pop, but the most important fing is, its good

i think this is the best album of sum41

You dumb fuck, punk hasn't been around for 42 years. I guess you meant that you are 42, so in my books that makes you one sad individual since you are still listening to bands like this and dissing them on the net. Get off your unemployed arse, find a job, put the bottle down and grow the fuck up!!
Oh yeah, this EP isn't that bad

Hello im into punk for 42 years and when i went to shows like the misfits and black flag when it was dangerous that was punk. Now this isnt punk no way. This is poopy doo doo.

Man I'm sick of hearing about people who have been listening to """""punk""""" for like 85 years. they try to make us think that they have the authority on what we are all supposed to be listening to because they happened to be older. I can't help how old I am. why would sinority factor into a culture that is based the everlasting youth? I for one will not respect these people any more because they are old enough to have seen X or the Weirdos or Husker Du live. I love Punk rock because it's not pretentious and egotistical.

Oh and by the way yes SUM 41 suck, but not as much as TSOL

fucked up album score system... i always forget that shit

well that's not true... i ignore them... that works quite well for me

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(i'm not going to abuse anymore of my typing skills to explain the greivance and pain in my mind and heart that bands like sum41 are feeding...)

I used to be pretty in to Sum 41, but then I realized that they were pretty "poppy," but they were still OK. Then some fuckwit kid in my school was like "SUM 41 RULES MAN PUNK FOREVER" and started throwin up the horns every chance and I was like "Hey Craig, you ever listen to Pennywise?" His response: "Naw, man, I don't like that old school stuff." I couldn't help but laughing in his teeny bopper face. Holy christ, it was so funny.

But I digress. Sum 41 was OK, but then they sold out, in my opinion. They have taken every possible chance to make appearances on MTV. I mean, FUCK. God damn MTV ruins music sometimes. Hell, most of the time.

One awesome CD. I don't think it's much better or worse then "All Killer No Filler," but I will say that this CD seems to be more straight punk rock, and very slightly more hardcore then "AKNF," which is more on the poppier side.

Yeah Its cool...I didnt try to piss anyone off....just wanted to have a more diversified look at the record..I knew it would get some crazy comments, but some took it a little too personally. Oh well, Its all cool with me man. We all have our own opinions.

To me it just seemed like you were taking an easy target (sum 41) and just slagging them off for no reason. Only after I commented on this review did I see the other review for 'Half Hour of Power' in which it was given 5 fucking stars. I suppose with someone else on this site saying that 'Half Hour of Power' is a 5 star record that there was some need to re-review this album. I jumped to conclusions a bit too quick. Sorry mate. icK still has respect and love (not like that perverts) for you ColdJuly.

- icK-x-Strife

I had heard everyone bitching about how no one writes reviews on albums they dont like...So i figured I would be the first and look what happened, now a lot of you suddenly took offense...oh well...what you say is your opinion If you were to write a bad review...I wouldnt say anything about how Im dissapointed in you and what not. I would comment on the review itself...and not the person who reviewed it.

I'm not exactly sure how half of my response ended up in bold italicized .... oh well.

- icK-x-Strife

Frankly ColdJuly I'm a bit disappointed in you. I have enjoyed nearly all of your other reviews; however this one seemed pointless. Why even bother to review a band like Sum41 which you seem to not consider "punk" on PUNKnews.org ... Commenting on bands like Sum41 , Blink or GoodCharlotte is just asking for trouble. I don't see how reviewing this album gave anyone a better perspective on it. While I agree that this album is shit, basically all you did was help to escalate the hostility on this site. Adding fuel to the fire is stupid to say the least. Next review an album worthy of some attention.

- icK-x-Strife

pat41 obviously worships his radio. tht is NOT a punk song. its 'tables have turned' on the warped comp 2001. the reviewer called it a pathetic attempt at hardcore, so dont try to bullshit us by trying to say you know what punk is, you dumb fucker. if youve even LISTENED to nofx, rancid, bad religion, or the other founders of contemporary punk, you'd know this is shit. turn off your fucking radio and switch off fucking eMpTyV and listen to some real punk you stupid shit.

Ok let me clear that right up, that last comment I didnt write at all. long story short, I had a shitload of friends over And showed them the site and wrote the comment under my name. It dosent matter how long you have been in the scene to me, As long as you appreciate it and be thankful of the music it has brought to you. I am however, NOT thankful of music such as this....who take punk and exploit it into something its not even remotely close to being. Its a harsh review yes I know, But were all entitled to our own diverse opinion. Thas why I knew this would get the comments it did And I accept them.

OK Coldjuly, you started off informing everyone how long you've been in the scene, so why would you question anyone else informing their "tour of duty" to the punk community? That seems somewhat hypocritical. I usually agree with what you say and consider you an intelligent person but that is fuckin absurd man...

ok what is it now....a competition to see who has listened to punk the longest??? who fuckin cares If we all had a debate in one big room on what punk is...we would all kill each other..we all have our own definitions and thats fine. As we all have our opinions, But at least talk about the album.....I swear to god..they need to start a forum section on this site so everyone can go argue on their punk beliefs.

good cd, bad review.

I don't like the album much.

Their shows are OK.

But hey. Guys. Whats the problem wiht kids at shows? they grow up, they become the teenagers adn men at your shows. I have been into Punk for about 15 years now, adn yes, i went to shows when i was a preeteen , adn have ever since. Tho there was no big "punk" trend then, I was never calleda poser, I was never yelled at for likeing a band. If the kids like it, let them go to the shwos. If they are posers, they wont have that much fun, they'll stoip coming to the shwos, especially since the trend will blow over, as has every trend since...well, every trend.

Second, all the "sellout" bands arent jsut trying to jump in on the fame. They were around long before the trend and got lucky. And cheers to whoever said that you always bitch about certain "punk" bands not getting enough recognition adn wehne they do you call them ssellouts and claim to hate them.

And, By the way, I consider Public enemy punk, even tho they are hip hop. so then tell me, what exactly IS punk anyway???

I've been listening to punk/hardcore for about 12-13 years now and honestly do not understand how kids canbuys this in mass amounts. Maybe its MTV or commercial radio, I don't know. But if this introduces you to punk, ok. We all can't start off listening to the best bands because quite frankly they aren't the easiest to access. However, if you have come to this site or others, you would have a sense of some of the more musically inclined bands. So come, don't be so closed minded just because Carson Daily is pushing this shit down your throat......sickboi

Ive been in to punk for 10 years now...and there is a lot of stuff I have heard that I just couldnt handle. This is on its way to the top of that list. But 20 years??? whoa how old are you? You could be like me and have gotten started at an early age....Its good to have punk rocker neighbors.

READ this kids and guys in the their 20's(words of a wise old punker). I've been into punk for about tweenty years and I Still dont know what punk is all about and dont think I am stupid. So I just stated to laught when all you kids know what punk is about. Sum 41 is crapy compare to all the U.K. underground stuff I have listen to. But what you kids dont understand is that punk evolves just like everything else. I was there went NOFX and Rancid got big in the underground world and I hated them, but I learn to evolve, I would strongly recommend you define punk again. Punk is to put out a message about politics, society, girls, overcoming an obstacle, and anything Religious. Nazi punk are what you guys are suppose to be hating because that does harm the society in general. Sum 41 sents out a message that my grandchildren can relate to and I got them Half Hour of Power and All Filler and No killer and I thougth it was good but I still preferred PINK TEDDY BEAR CREW(a band you never heard of)-Grandpa

Calling us posers???? who the fuck do you think you are? If anyone is a poser its you. Yeah I gave a bad review well so fuckin what...it was a bad album, and it deserved the comments I gave it. Its bands like them and people like you who just make punk...(and even though there not) look really lame. So take your shitty whiny so called punk, and fuck right off.

Oh yeah....The nofx album isn't called linoleum you moron, its called punk in drublic.

This cd is fucking awesome, i dont care what anyone says. Its up there with that one N-ofx cd, Linoleum. fuck all you punk posers, go listen to n-ofx or sum41.

I have to admit the reason why I used to like this CD is because I was 13 when I bought it. I thought this was what punk was. However, I can kind of thank Sum for introducing me to punk because there was a link to this site on a Sum 41 site, and I have since listened to the bands that are in high regard here, and I have really learned what punk is. Looking back, Sum 41 is so mediocre compared to the likes of NOFX, Rancid, etc. Now it sickens me that they have gotten so popular and that everyone else still has the ideas that I used to have about Sum 41. It sickens me that when I tell someone I like punk, they say, "Oh, like Sum 41 and stuff?" So what I'm saying is, I definitely cannot be anywhere as punk as you guys in your 20's, but I just think that Sum 41 should not be in the musical library of any real punk fan.

-Senor Potpourri

So what, theres a review of a sum 41 album on this website. Boo-Fucking-Hoo.
I liked "Makes no difference" so I guess i'm not punk. Oh well, I guess i'll go listen to some other type of music cause the Punk rock scene obviously doesn't want me here anymore.
Grow up dudes.

Hah well I never thought I would really post on here.

Well simply put this band was not created by Def Jam/ Island. I have seen them for years up here in Toronto. All the songs on the Half Hour of Power are the same as the set they use to play at small shows. And they would play anywhere to. Not just punk shows. Nore did they seem to care about being punk.

Simply put they were just a bunch of kids in a band who lucked out got a huge record deal and have become rock stars.

Thats it. And now there playing stages accross North America touring with tons of great bands.

And me. Well I'm in Toronto. Working the 9-5. But hey at least I got a cubicle.

Now if I could only learn how to sing.

Peace.

ED

Blah, Blah, stop defending this band and stop bashing this band, don't even waste your time when theres a thousand other bands that deserve your attention.

This band sounds like thier trying to rip off as many good bands as possible. Dont the rap parts in that song on mtv sound just like the beastie boys (great band) and the rest sounds like a bad version of every pop punk/alternative band out there

wow...this guy did a good review...were any of you impressed?...i know i was...i think i just shit my pants...this guy did a good review...

goddamnit these guys aren't pop punk when the fuck are you people gonna get this through your head. Pop punk bands tend to be more influenced by the Ramones and have more of a Ramones sound. Listen to a fucking record by The Queers or Screeching Weasel to hear pop punk the way it should be played.

Yes, we all know this is pop punk. I can appreciate lotsa types of music, and as a pop punk CD, this one isnt bad. The band doesnt deserve their success, but i think blink does cause theyve been making tunes for 10 years. Anyways, the CD is pretty decent, its got some good tunes, but the sad fact is that the newest sum41 cd is even MORE pop than this one... Almost emo..

All my other reviews are of albums I thought were good....ehh its good for a change. sum, mest, good whatever they all suck...truthfully I dont like blink either, and sum sounds nothing like them...yeah blink sellouts or not actually have some talent. and have punk credibility too. which means they were cool at one time...sum has always sucked.

Yeah he is right, Its like when they came on, All these preteens went rushing over like there was a sale at the gap or something...I watched from far away and people were throwing buckets of water at them....and the the singer slipped in the water and busted his ass. Funniest thing I have ever seen.

whatever style of music sum 41 is they aren't that good, it's bands like that that made warped tour really fucking lame this year, their song writing is awful and to the guy who said that no 12 year old listen to them Ha!!!, the whole crowd was full of elementry schoolers and little 12 year olds, i don't think a sum 41 review belongs on this site

Sum poopy 1! thee worst. my grandma can do better. thee crummiest. worse than good charlotte and nothing gets worse than that believe me. a word of advice to sum 41. dont waste your time your just a casualty in society. they are. thee worst

One time I took a shit that looked exactly like Sum 41, really....

Saying that the songs sounded like they were written in five minutes was right on. Both this album and their new one have a couple of songs that are catchy at best. Like 'em if you want, I couldn't give two shits. But talented they are not, that I CAN say. Listen closer. And stop using the word punk in brackets.

Ha Ha, Im not trying to get attention or anything...Just trying to see how many people I can piss off with my comments...Its working pretty good so far.

Oh yeah dont wack me with a sack of doorknobs...golf balls work better.

I dunno. This cd might not be punk, but I wouldn't call it teeny-bopper, besides the 1 song they released. The rest is a pretty fucking hard album man. I can't really see 12 year olds listening to it. And though I'm not a huge fan, I'll give them credit in that they can really fucking play! Those kids are talented (excpet for vocals).

its better then the newer one whatever its called but it still isnt worth it.

I don't know why you even bothered to write this. There is already a review of this album on this site. This isn't a new release. You don't really review the music. One sentence? Christ. In the future, please don't try to pass off your need to be the center of attention as a CD review.

duhh, i have spiked hair

So they may not be the most "punk" band around but does that really matter? Yea this sight is called punknews but if the webmaster posted the review he obviously considers this punk. Notice when someone wrote a review of the new Blink album he put it on the sight but did not put it on the main page where it could be easily accessed. This album has about 4 different types of genres all in it and I dont see how you could categorize this album into the pop punk stereo-type. The first song, Grab the devil by the horns and fuck him up the ass, is a great metal song, THT is a typical "punk" song with fast drums hard guitar riffs and loud screaming vocals, Makes No Difference is a great pop punk song probably one of the best Ive heard and then of course the one everyone will rag me for is the rap song, Its What We're all About. There new album may be extremely pop punk and have all the makings of the next Blink 182 and there is nothing wrong with that in my mind but I think that Half Hour Of Power deserves some recognition. And saying that Sum 41 was "created" by Island Def Jam is a load of horse shit so why doesnt that person just shut his fucking mouth before i whack him with a sack of doorknobs.

So this is crap cuz you dont like the style? so what! This is Fucking music! you cant judge a band by it's style or genre. if you dont like the genre to begin with, shure you'll say it sucks. Music is music, if they like playing that kind of music than more power to them. sellout sellout, god you people are so anoying with this. if they want to make a living off making music and having fun, they're just that much more lucky. I would love to get paid to do something i love doing. Now for the people who cry out that they copy blink. First off it's not like blink is the only band that can play that style of music. If there would be only one band playing one kind of music we would have like 3 punk bands, one emo band, one pop-punk band. wow that would be fun. If you dont like it, doesnt mean it sucks.. it's just not to your liking. personnaly I like it. It's not a masterpiece but still, for entertainment value, it's worth it.

Reviews like this piss me off. I don't care if you like the band or not, like the music or not, but saying it's not punk enough for you? When you review albums on this site, you should review them if you consider them punk... and then that should be that. It should be a yes or no answer, not a "it's not quite punk enough so I'm going to give it a lower score" - no, stop. If it's NOT punk enough for you, then don't review it on a site called PUNKnews.org!

By the way, this is a cute pop-punk album. Nothing I'd listen to over and over again and become a huge fan of, but not horrible.

Ok, I dont care what you label sum 41, but blink, good charlotte, NFG and others bands are on the same bandwagon trying to get in on the fame..and attmepting to be "punk" while doing so. This little temporary success will come and go just like other trends and crazes.

Soon all these bands will be nearly forgotten about...and yet another trend or style of music will be ready for the masses.

Yeah Im definitley NOT the punk authority...but all this is getting old. Really old. and soon these bands will find their newly found fame, gone.

Man I knew I would get a shitload of comments out of this one.

it wasnt that bad.......

defenatly better then their new album

it must be another case of blink 18itus

damm

Honestly, you are correct. However you should have wrote this as a comment under the album's review(s), not create a seperate review for it.

Second...I think this band was created by Island to fuel the minds of the oncomming punk trend...However! As popular as you guys think pop-punk really is...it isn't! I'd hate to break your heart, but the trend is still rap/hip-hop/boy-bands. Sure this stuff is all over MTV and such, but don't get your panties in a rubble, no one really cares about this stuff, it'll come, and go soon...

Another thing I've wanted to comment on...I always see people talkin' about how they think band should get more recognition that don't get as much. However when a band does get bigger, then you all bitch about selling-out and shit. Seriously, shut the fuck up! Like I said before, the mainstream doesn't care about what greatness we have to offer. And if it does break into their stereo for more than a few times, then good! Punk has a message guys...We need to spread it! Punk is a partial movement to make our little eyes aware of things!

So in conclusion...Quit whinning, if you don't like it, don't listen to it! It's not your band, it's their's. And no matter how much you bitch, they're going to do what they want to do! Not what you want them to do!

Eh pointless review, but I have to agree. I think this band is pretty lame. I actually prefer bands like Blink and Good Charlotte to them.

Can you just stop to say some shit about Sum 41? I know it's not really good but have you heard Good Charlotte, Mest and all these crappy bands? Compared to them, Sum 41 is the punkest band on earth... Also, how can they be sell out if they've always been pop... maybe they never wanted to be a punk band but just a pop band. Anyway, since 2 years, it looks like if you're punk and you say that a band is selling out, you're cool... is that punk attitude? I don't think.

stop refering to this shit as pop-punk, its pop-rock and it sucks.

albums like this don't belong here.- fathead

this cd is good. not great, but good. better than the new cd i'd say, too. sure it's not super punk, but it can be fun to listen to, in moderation of course...

Killer musicians, decent production, but piss-poor songwriting that blatantly is trying to be something it is not. If these guys had served a little time and didn't take instructions from label hotshots who constantly look over their shoulder, they'd be ok in my book. Too bad they screwed it up by taking the high road right off the bat.

Crazy

No but seriously, its so obvious you were having a pop off this just for the sake of it, it really came across in the review, you picked an easy target and went for the easy pot shots. I honestly think this review is a waste of a php file... Next time, write an honest review, don't just pander to the crowd.