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NOFX / the Lawrence Arms / the Loved Ones

NOFX/the Lawrence Arms/the Loved Ones: live in Washington, D.C.live in Washington, D.C. (2006)
Fat Wreck Chords

Reviewer Rating: 4.5


Contributed by: ScruffyScruffy
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It seems that my experience seeing the Loved Ones, the Lawrence Arms and NOFX is one shared by fans all across the country: The bands were amazing, and the NOFX fans tried their hardest to ruin everyone else's time. The Nation in D.C. is an enormous place. My wife and I were standing in the room .


It seems that my experience seeing the Loved Ones, the Lawrence Arms and NOFX is one shared by fans all across the country: The bands were amazing, and the NOFX fans tried their hardest to ruin everyone else's time.

The Nation in D.C. is an enormous place. My wife and I were standing in the room with the merchandise when we heard the Loved Ones begin. Apparently, shows at the Nation start on time, not something I'm used to. They started off with "Suture Self" off of their recent Fat Wreck debut, Keep Your Heart. For the first song or two, no one was moving. Dave Hause was interacting with the crowd, trying to get them into it. The problem was that a legion of NOFX fans showed up early and planted themselves in the front, resolved to insult the other bands (and their fans), stand completely still and boo anyone on stage that was not NOFX. That didn't matter. Those of us there for the opening acts got the crowd moving, and by the end of the Loved Ones' set, I was sweaty and sore from being beaten and shoved around, like you're supposed to be at a good show. Hause mocked the kids up front, one of whom thought it proper to announce his hatred for the act of reading. Hause also mocked the security guards relentlessly.

The Loved Ones tore through "100K," "Chicken," "Jane," "Hurry Up and Wait," "Please Be Here," "Living Will (Get You Dead)," and "The Sickening" among others (I'm pretty sure they played "Benson and Hedges"). I know they didn't play "The Odds" or "Player Hater Anthem," because that would've made me ecstatic. The band was seriously amazing. I had wondered how they would duplicate their sound live, since there are so many layers of guitars on the album, but it sounds even tighter, louder and catchier live. They closed their set with "Candy Cane."

Then, the Lawrence Arms came out. From the audience, Chris was on the left, Brendan on the right. Chris's shirt read "Hoof!," and Brendan's read "Hearted!" They launched into their set immediately, and barely took time to breathe. Normally, their shows are full of jokes, but they seemed to be less talk, more rock that night.

When the Lawrence Arms played Cleveland last Spring, it was gloriously sloppy. Most of the set, Brendan strummed every string on the bass. It didn't sound too good, but it was amazing. In D.C. last week, they were ON. This was one of the tightest shows I think I've seen a band play. They blasted through "Turnstyles," "100 Resolutions," "Quincentuple Your Money," "On With the Show," "The Devil's Takin' Names," "Cut It Up," "Great Lakes / Great Escapes," "Presenting the Dancing Machine" and a few more I can't remember. When they came to "Porno and Snuff Films," Brendan introduced it by saying "If any of you know one song by us, it's probably this one!" They ended the show with "Necrotism," and left me drooling at the thought of seeing them again on March 8th.

Then, NOFX. I'll be honest: I didn't really care to see them by this point in the show. I don't mind people insulting bands. I'd be a hypocrite if I did. But there's something that really bothers me when people who don't like the opening acts act amazed that other people are there to see them. If you get there early to secure a spot at the barrier for the main act, accept the fact that there will be people excited to see the openers. At least expect that the openers will play.

Ranting aside, NOFX played a good set. I'm not familiar with their entire catalog, but I recognized quite a few songs. If I recall correctly, they played "I Wanna Be an Alcoholic" before launching into "The Decline" with an "If you're not familiar with our stuff, you're going to be bored for the next 18 minutes!" They did a good job with "Soul Doubt," "Stickin' in My Eye," "Linoleum," "Perfect Government" and "There's No Fun in Fundamentalism." They even played a song about D.C. that they had "written that day," which clearly means "We wrote the music a while ago and Fat Mike changes the lyrics for each town we play in." The song is hilarious though, as it was basically Fat Mike saying D.C.'s great, but "California has better cocaine." The songs sounded great, but they talked too much between. Also, for anyone wondering, they did break out the trumpet on a handful of songs.

The only thing that bothered me about their set is that, in contrast to all of Fat Mike's progressive politics, lyrics and involvement in Punkvoter, El Hefe still made quite a few close-minded jokes that a junior high schooler would make. All in all, this is still one of the best shows I've been to. Anyone who missed it, you really did miss something wonderful.

 

 
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kingofsuck (June 18, 2006)

I'm over three months late on this, but the lyric is "he loves Dick but he hates homosexuals."

Anonymous (March 19, 2006)

Don't call douche-bags douch-gays, they're just fags.

FuckYouOiOiOi (March 13, 2006)

don't call gays gays, they're gender non-conformists.

Anonymous (March 13, 2006)

Don't call midgets midgets, they're dwarves!

Scruffy (March 13, 2006)

Okay, I'll give you that. There are contexts in which it can be appropriate. The examples you used were ones mocking someone who uses that word to describe black people.
That's not the way El Hefe used the word "fag".
You know what? I don't care. There's a huge difference between being politically correct and just not being a douchebag. Most of you kids probably just can't tell the difference.

Anonymous (March 13, 2006)

Scruffy said:
"So, if you use the "N word" but you're not being malicious to black people, it's okay?"

Dead Kennedys said:
"Braggin' that you know how the niggers feel cold
And the slums got so much soul"
and
"Nigger knockin' for the master race
But still you put on a happy face"

MDC said:
"Whatcha gonna do
The Mafia in blue
Huntin' for queers
Niggers and you"

... so the short answer is, yes.

Anonymous (March 13, 2006)

"So, if you use the "N word" but you're not being malicious to black people, it's okay?"

Nigga, Please!

Scruffy (March 12, 2006)

I think you must have a different dictionary than I do.

I really can't even begin to comprehend, I mean, wow.

So, if you use the "N word" but you're not being malicious to black people, it's okay?

There's a difference between being provocatively offensive and/or harmless and being a frat boy dressed like a punk.

FuckYouOiOiOi (March 12, 2006)

goddammit, i really don't wanna start this argument here but there is nothing closed-minded about saying fag if you aren't being malicious towards gays. in fact, by definition, its more closed-minded to cast off anybody who uses that word as an insult.

Scruffy (March 12, 2006)

Dude below, I am the farthest thing from PC.
There's a big difference between being PC and noting the hypocrisy in singing lyrics like the ones found in "Leaving Jesusland" and then using the word "fag" onstage.

Anonymous (March 12, 2006)

In Cleveland nothing like this happened at all. Everyone I met was totally awesome, and all of the bands were respected, and had a great time. NOFX were amazing, as expected. Loved Ones and Lawrence Arms were incredible as well.

NOFX's "close minded" jokes only offended people that have no buisness being there in the first place. Check your PC shit at the door, this is punk rock....

Anonymous (March 12, 2006)

I believe the actual joke is "for a man who hates gays, he sure loves Dick." As in Cheney, his vice president. Not Cock Cheney.

-Scott

Anonymous (March 12, 2006)

"The Nation in D.C. is an enormous place. My wife and I were standing in the room with the merchandise when we heard the Loved Ones begin. Apparently, shows at the Nation start on time, not something Iâ??m used to. They started off with â??Suture Selfâ?ť off of their recent Fat Wreck debut, Keep Your Heart. For the first song or two, no one was moving. Dave Hause was interacting with the crowd, trying to get them into it. The problem was that a legion of NOFX fans showed up early and planted themselves in the front, resolved to insult the other bands (and their fans), stand completely still and boo anyone on stage that was not NOFX. That didnâ??t matter. Those of us there for the opening acts got the crowd moving, and by the end of the Loved Ones' set, I was sweaty and sore from being beaten and shoved around, like youâ??re supposed to be at a good show. Hause mocked the kids up front, one of whom thought it proper to announce his hatred for the act of reading. Hause also mocked the security guards relentlessly."

No different than any other stop on this tour. Congratulations NOFX, your fans are all assholes.

And as far as Fat Mike's "Progressive Politics," I seem to recall lyrics of his about Bush that says "For a man who hates gays he really loves cock." Oooooooh, real progressive.

Anonymous (March 11, 2006)

I missed every NOFX song until The Decline because I passed out and had to be dragged to the bathroom. But, from what I remember, it was an awesome show.

TheNightProwler (March 11, 2006)

Speaking of the Methadones, they are currently putting up tracks from their upcoming cover album on their myspace page...
http://www.myspace.com/themethadones
Right now at this very moment they got Elvis Costello's "Welcome To The Working Week" on there, such an amazing song to cover!

Anonymous (March 11, 2006)

i'm glad people are talking about the methadones. they are really awesome. so are the riverdales too.

Anonymous (March 11, 2006)

Yeah seriously the Methadones are the shit. I saw them in 2001, great band. They need to tour more. O and fuck nofx, they fucking suck and all their songs sound the fucking same.

The best lineup would be: The Bouncing Souls, BIGWIG, Dillinger Four, The Methadones

Anonymous (March 11, 2006)

NOFX - seriously, how many other punk bands totally hit their stride in the dead middle of their career? Usually the early stuff is great and then the band tends to go to shit. Nofx went from crappy (for like 6 years) to a period of greatness from 91-99 and then got really really old and tired.

TheNightProwler (March 11, 2006)

You know what would a good trend that started popping up in theses comments? Talking about The Methadones!

Anonymous (March 11, 2006)

from www.myspace.com/cbgb
5. "CBGB didn't treat us like rockstars and bring us drinks and towels to the stage." (I've heard tons of "big" bands gripe about this one... but never to us directly. They'll bitch about it to their managers or in their online blogs or whatever. What, are you mute? We have drinks and towels. Ask us for them and we'll provide them for you. We're not mind readers and you're not invalids. You want to be a primadonna and play "rock star" at nice neat white walled venues being catered to, go do that, but don't pretend you're a real rock band. CBGB is a club for musicians... and some of them have gone on to be real rockstars.

Ya got that Loved Ones?

Anonymous (March 11, 2006)

supposedly the loved ones bitched about not getting the godly treatment they think they deserve at cbgbs, at least there's a reference to it from cbgb themselves on their myspace lol. something about not getting water and towels and they actually bitched to cbgbs about it

Anonymous (March 10, 2006)

what's a good room with bots to download punk cds on the irc?

Anonymous (March 10, 2006)

sorry, I really like the Lawrence Arms and I think the Loved Ones are good, but i think nofx is better than either of em.

BTown (March 10, 2006)

Score's for the opening bands and all the shit Scruffys getting thrown at him from NOFX fans in this review.

Anonymous (March 10, 2006)

what a bad review. when u review a nofx show you should actually like nofx.

CUAPUNKRADIO (March 10, 2006)

i know alot of the nofx crowd can be dickheads but i guess the solution to this so called problem is to get unbelievably fucked before the show
it worked for me and i still kinda remember quencituple your money

Scruffy (March 10, 2006)

I envy your drunkenness. I had to drive all the way home to Ohio. Well, part of the way. More like two hours. Then a friend drove while I slept in the back. But still.
I got real good and drunk at the Arms show this Wednesday in Columbus. That show was legendary.

sickboi (March 10, 2006)

Scruffy is right. A lot of NOFX fans are dickheads. They think they are sooooooo above radio rock, yet afraid to actually listen to other types of music.

(Not all, but a lot of them)

CUAPUNKRADIO (March 10, 2006)

umm i was this show and i remember alot of shit talking from the fans and i was up at the front, im was drunk as fuck tho. but i really dont remember that much booing. i do remember dave hause making fun of that huge security guard and that kid who wasnt a reading fan

Scruffy (March 10, 2006)

Hey FuckYouOiOiOi, just in case you care to know. I was singing along in my friends beat up car to "I Heard They Suck Live" back when most of the fans at the show I was at were listening to boy bands, or possibly not even listening to music yet.
It's not that I'm "unfamiliar with NoFX". It's just that their early stuff sucks, and right after The Decline, I quit caring. Maybe if I'd hear a new NoFX song that didn't sound either gimmicky or overly offensive, you know, something with the passion of "The Cause" or "Soul Doubt", I'd care. But nothing is as passionate and catchy and, well, good, as the stuff on Punk In Drublic or White Trash.
Of course it's a NoFX show, that's why I wasn't mad that they played. Likewise, it was also a Loved Ones and Lawrence Arms show, yet those kids got mad that they were playing. But the punk scene doesn't need that close-minded attitude, and it was a huge part of the show. To report on the show I saw, it needed mention. If the openers sucked and the kids yelled, whatever, but the kids were mocking them before they started, and they were mocking the other fans.
Yeah, good job kids. You're so cool because you listen to NoFX. So much cooler than those of us who ALSO listen to NoFX and happen to listen to the other bands playing as well.

The review isn't weighted as heavy to NoFX because I didn't care about their show as much. You got a problem? Write your own.

Also, about the Methadones show last Spring in Cleveland...
Yeah, their guitar player was awesome. I grabbed one of the picks he dropped on the ground. I don't know where it is now. I know I use it to play guitar. Just grabbed it because it was a free pick and the exact kind I use. They were rad guys though. Once, when he wasn't playing during a part, the guitarist rubbed my head. Weird, but cool.

hubitcherkokov (March 10, 2006)

The Methadones were amazing at that show. I recall their one guitar player being completely wasted, dropping his pick all the time, downing shots between songs, and spitting his pick in the air, catching it, and then continuing to play. That was my favorite Lawrence Arms show, too. There was so much older material in their set - it wasn't so splits/Fat Wreck heavy.

jumptheshark (March 10, 2006)

i'm going to the lawrence arms show in madison on march 18, when they play with latterman and the blackout pact, and i was planning on writing a review, but given that there have been several recent lawrence arms reviews i might not bother

Anonymous (March 10, 2006)

Bigwig > NoFX

Steve Cole

FuckYouOiOiOi (March 10, 2006)

Yeah, they were just standing there for Loved Ones but you know how much fucking energy they had during NOFX? maybe this should tell you something about the bands and not the kids...

CUAPUNKRADIO (March 10, 2006)

score is for me for being the drunkest one at the show
and for hoof! and hearted!

FuckYouOiOiOi (March 10, 2006)

the reviewers first problem is that he was there to see loved ones and lawrence arms and is unfamiliar with NOFX. ITS A FUCKING NOFX SHOW. nofx are punk legends, the kids are desparately waiting to see them and, yeah, some of them are douchebags. big fucking deal. the shit-talking of the loved ones actually heightened my enjoyment because the loved ones shit-talked them right back. all in all it was the best show i've ever been to. seeing nofx play the decline was a dream come true. 18 minutes of moshing....wow.

Scruffy (March 10, 2006)

Yeah, but the crowd wasn't witty. And they weren't nearly as intent on making the band suffer as they were to make everyone around them have a bad time. They were vindictive about having to listen to the openers.
And just because you should expect Fat Mike and El Hefe to never stop talking doesn't mean that's a good thing.

Anonymous (March 10, 2006)

And, yeah, I complained about the audience. It severely distracted from my enjoyment of the evening. Ask people who went to any date on this tour to see the openers, and they'll probably agree.

agreed.

TheNightProwler (March 10, 2006)

C'mon, it's a NOFX show, you got to expect the crowd to give EVERY band a hard time, even NOFX. Loved Ones got shit-talked but they shit-talked right back and did a awesome job doing so. The Lawrence Arms didn't talk much and since it was Chicago people didn't say bad things about them, at least from where I was.

I don't know about you people but I enjoy witty crowd banter, especially when it's a band and crowd making smart ass remarks to each other. I wasn't a fan of the Loved Ones but I enjoyed their set and their crowd interaction was the highlight for me.... the thing with NOFX is that you should expect to hear Fat Mike drunken ramble about stuff on and on with Smelly just in the background wondering if he's ever going to stop talking and play the next song. I enjoyed it, I guess some not as much.

Scruffy (March 10, 2006)

Yeah, it was the Wilhelm Scream/ Methadones show. Made me fall in love with the Methadones. It was sweet.

And, yeah, I complained about the audience. It severely distracted from my enjoyment of the evening. Ask people who went to any date on this tour to see the openers, and they'll probably agree.
Anyway, the show you should have given your left nut to see was the Lawrence Arms show two days ago (Wed the 8th) in Columbus, OH. Best show ever.

Anonymous (March 10, 2006)

So Scruffy here you were at a show I would gladly sacrifice my left nut to see (and let me tell you the left is the good one) and you spend the night bitching about the kids?

Anonymous (March 10, 2006)

The Loved Ones Sucked
Fucking shitty band

The Lawrence Arms were fucking awesome
there set was fucking great

Guards were dumb for yelling at people in the crowd smoking pot

NOFX was fucking awesome playing in Bras
playing the full Decline
also D.C. stands for Dick Cheney
NOFX always talks and has pauses
I am actually suprised they didn't talk a whole lot more!
since they were in D.C.

I can't wait to see them again at the Warped Tour
The Warped Tour should get rid off dumb ass emo or pop punk what ever that yellowcard and fallout boy crap is those bands fuckin suck!

siropsycho (March 10, 2006)

this was a great show...first time i saw the Lawrence Arms and Loved Ones

Lawrence Arms were amazing...'huge' was the best way i can describe their sound

i couldn't believe some of the asshole NOFX fans though, that was really surprising...i don't remember that the last time i saw them

P-Fresh (March 10, 2006)

Dude, American Steel was sweet.

joeg (March 10, 2006)

Nation is a shithole but it's also going to be one less place to see shows (not that they have many) once the baseball stadium is built and they clean out that area. 930 club and Sonar in Baltimore should be picking up what's left.

hubitcherkokov (March 10, 2006)

Scruffy -

Who played with The Lawrence Arms when you saw them last spring? Was that show with A Wilhelm Scream and The Methadones or am I getting my dates mixed up? I haven't missed them since they first came through in support of "Apathy and Exhaustion," and I SHOULD have made it to their show during the summer of 2001 with American Steel but my girlfriend at the time was being a jerk...I should have just dumped her and gone to the show anyway.

Anonymous (March 10, 2006)

I've heard other people comment on El Hefe's offensive jokes as well, anyone care to enlighten me on some of the things he said?

TheNightProwler (March 10, 2006)

For the Chicago song he said that Matt Skiba moved from Chicago to California for better cocaine. Oh what glorious comedy that was.

I'm going to try and write a review for that show during the weekend.

SalsaShark (March 10, 2006)

Fat Mike did the same "California has better cocaine" thing for Cleveland, but it still was pretty entertaining.

I have to say, NOFX were amazing live.

clamum (March 10, 2006)

"...if no one else does it I'll give it a fair shot though because more people need to know about how Fat Mike was wearing nothing but a bra & panties for the majority of that show with his nutsack hanging out for a good 5 or 6 songs."

Hahahah

Awesome.

Anonymous (March 10, 2006)

I just got back from Loved Ones w/ None More Black - also in D.C. - and they were playing with a second guitarist (from Paint it Black). Holy crap... that's what their sound was missing. A vast improvement over the last time I saw them, and I hope they'll add a second guitarist permanently.

TheNightProwler (March 10, 2006)

Someone write a review for the 18 and over NOFX show in Chicago... I don't want to do it because I suck at writing reviews.

...if no one else does it I'll give it a fair shot though because more people need to know about how Fat Mike was wearing nothing but a bra & panties for the majority of that show with his nutsack hanging out for a good 5 or 6 songs.

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