this is my ode to childhood heroes.

I love it is is one of the best i think i love this band!!!!!

i want a path straight to the van

"Good, now maybe we can get another Nirvana to clean it the fuck up again."

I wonder if Against Me! really blew up...

Great album !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

one of the albums that really got me into music.

"This is ok, but I prefer the Arrested Development unplugged a little more."

Good fucking call. Arrested Development was amazing. I was going to go see them a couple of years ago in DC with They Might Be Giants, but I didn't want to drive 8 hours by myself. And I found out about it a day before the show.

Nirvana is overrated. However this cd fits all of the hype that nirvana has around it. the things nirvana has other than this cd, is the movement towards mainstream alternative artists and the best ironic name in music. That being stated they are still good; and Kurt often said that his band wasnt as good as bands sucha as the pixies so i think thatt that point is moot.

this band sucks hard.

"It's amazing that Dave Grohl has been in the best band of the past 15 years and the worst band of the past 15 years.

Foo Fighters of course being the worst. If you still like the Foo's, you probably need to hang out with your frat brothers less.

And anyone who doesn't, at the very least, respect Nirvana, is either ridiculous, or younger than 16 years old."

Are you forgetting Probot? Weak weak weak ass shit. Almost as bad as CKY's last record.

"Have you heard the vast majority of whats played today? I would describe it as R&B/dance shit and scene bands where the look is more important than the sound. Holy shit we are exactly where we were 20 years ago."

Good, now maybe we can get another Nirvana to clean it the fuck up again.

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 30, 2006 at 1:34 PM (EDT)
My Score:

One of the best CDs ever.

"this review was prompted a few weeks ago after a kid i work with told me he had never heard of nirvana. he was 18."

How the hell can you not hear of Nirvana? They are one of the biggest mainstream defining bands. If you listen to any rock station long, you will eventually hear a Nirvana song. For crying out loud, does anyone in my generation pay attention to any band that was formed--or made music--prior to the year 2000 or so?

Anywho... "The Man Who Sold the World" cover is great...

"how come people always come on here and bitch? dont u guys have ANYTHING better to do?"

No. Sheesh. I would have thought that'd be obvious by now.

"I agree partly, I really dislike todays mainstream radio as much as the next guy, but before Nirvana it was way worse. It was always either hair metel bands or R&B/ dance music shit. "Alternative" bands weren't played on the mainstream radio before Nirvana."

Have you heard the vast majority of whats played today? I would describe it as R&B/dance shit and scene bands where the look is more important than the sound. Holy shit we are exactly where we were 20 years ago.

how come people always come on here and bitch? dont u guys have ANYTHING better to do? if you like the album, and the band, good for you, leave a comment. if not, go somewhere else, and look for bands you DO like. jesus fucking christ. on a good note, i love this cd, and nirvana are, while overrated, legendary. personally i dont think he killed himself. look it up, you'll find why. courtney love is a big enough greedy bitch to do him in. and shes not as stupid as people think. she could have easily gotten away with it. and in my opinion, you have to be about 3 times worse than green day, offspring, AFI, rise against, blink-182 and the like for me to call you a sellout. you want sell outs? go look at fucking jerry only. that guy is using the misfits name to sell everything from shoe laces to teddy bears. and hes the only original member left. they just play shitty covers of their old stuff. thank you, and have a nice day.

Posted by hobojew on 2006-04-29 12:51:51
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Cool, guys!

For people who are saying things about Cobain killing himself, that's in poor taste. When anyone dies, it's a tragedy. I personally hate Nirvana, but Kurt Cobain was really a punk rocker. He happened to do something new, which inadvertantly ruined punk, thus opening it up to dumb suburban kids like me. Without Nirvana, Green Day wouldn't be played sold-out stadiums, and we wouldn't have Blink 182 or Good Charlotte. But, we also wouldn't have so many hardcore and anarcho-punk reissues. I would be listening to shitty hair metal and cock rock like my friends, and I would have nothing to be a music eliteist about. Basically, nothing is black or white. So...I think I'm gonna review more old records. Oh, and if Nirvana counts a punk, then so does Motorhead.

Some of the between song banter here is pretty interesting. Courtney Love likes to claim that by this point, Kurt had really'd had enough of Dave. Well, maybe it's just a coincidence, but every time Dave says something on this, Kurt just completely ignores him. At times, it seems like Dave is even goading Kurt . . . go back and listen to it and see what I mean . . .

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 29, 2006 at 3:19 AM (EDT)
My Score:

most overated band of all time

Posted by Not-To-Regret on 2006-04-29 02:33:18
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"If you still like the Foo's, you probably need to hang out with your frat brothers less."

I'm don't know any frat boys, yet I love the Foo's latest album, the first disc is okay but disc 2 is amazing. Sure, they have some generic moments, aside from that; some great classic rock.

Score's for this album making some solo acoustic artists look like complete pussies.

Take this all with a grain of "Scruffy's drunk" brand salt:

"NIrvana is also "legendary" because of the lead singer's 'martyrdom'...ie Sublime... Both bands immortalized by death. Stupid. Both would still be heavily influential and respected, but both are overrated due to death...."

No. Just no. As I said in the post you're responding to, Nirvana would be immortalize with or without Cobain's death. The only reason Sublime even got big is because of his death, and even then they didn't change anything. They may be a good band, but they did not have the monumental lasting impact on music that Nirvana did.

Also....

"It's amazing that Dave Grohl has been in the best band of the past 15 years and the worst band of the past 15 years."

Hey, shut up. The Foo Fighters are rad. There are enough similarities to Jawbreaker and Nirvana alone to make them listenable. Granted, if they only recorded their good songs, it'd take them about 8 years to make a CD. But Grohl is an awesome guy, and when they're on, they're on. Hey Johnny Park, Hero, Best Of You, Breakout, Learn To Fly, and that one single off of One By One. Man, how can you ignore those songs? The palm muting part on the One By One single alone is worthy of praise.

yeah, a lot of people arent old enough to remember...
before they hit the scene, the spin doctors were big
ugh, 'nuff said.

"And what, mind you, is so fucking fantastic about rock music today? Every time I turn the radio on I tend to cringe."

I agree partly, I really dislike todays mainstream radio as much as the next guy, but before Nirvana it was way worse. It was always either hair metel bands or R&B/ dance music shit. "Alternative" bands weren't played on the mainstream radio before Nirvana.

I love this CD.

And the kid who asked "what bands show obiovus Nirvana influence" (or whatever he said. that was the gist of it.) made me laugh out loud. Heres your answer kid. 99% of the music on rock stations. That is not a exageration. I dont like anything by them exceot for this record, but their influence is staggering.

It's amazing that Dave Grohl has been in the best band of the past 15 years and the worst band of the past 15 years.

Foo Fighters of course being the worst. If you still like the Foo's, you probably need to hang out with your frat brothers less.

And anyone who doesn't, at the very least, respect Nirvana, is either ridiculous, or younger than 16 years old.

Posted by dazed on 2006-04-28 22:03:57
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This is a really enjoyable CD. All of Nirvana's stuff is classic, though, I think I like Incesticide the best. As for over/underratedness I'm sure a lot of people place more importance in Nirvana than they really deserve but the fact that so many people haven't heard of them or lump them in with all the mediocre grunge that followed is just about to the point of evening that out.

NIrvana is also "legendary" because of the lead singer's 'martyrdom'...ie Sublime... Both bands immortalized by death. Stupid. Both would still be heavily influential and respected, but both are overrated due to death....

1. nevermind
2. in utero
3. bleach
4. incesticide

only reason people say in utero is the best is because they want to be different....well, maybe not, but i think nevermind is the better album

"Ok yea, nirvana is over-rated but fuckin' Sublime? There is no that claim holds any water."

See, I don't say bands are overrated very often, but I'd be tempted to say it about Sublime. Nirvana is legendary because of Nevermind. Sublime is legendary because the dude died. Sublime is slightly better than average frat rock.
I still like some Sublime, but to put them on a level (or above) with Nirvana is ludicrous.

The radio on the music tends to always be the same a handful of bands that "shake the conerstone" and the rest jock on that style. No doubt nirvana was amazing but lets not get carried away.

"And what, mind you, is so fucking fantastic about rock music today? Every time I turn the radio on I tend to cringe"

I was actually alluding to their lasting legacy and the imprint they left in the early 90s rather than the actual bands they've spawned in 2006 such as nth generation grunge rock like puddle of mudd, etc. Kurt would be spinning in his grave listening to the shit heard on rock radio today.

My comment below should say anyone born after 85 couldn't comprehend...

point is, before nirvana, music was totally different. they shook the cornerstone of rock and roll - even though they were ripping off ______ (insert the pixies, melvins, whoever here)... they just had a combination of right time right place right sound.

point being, 90% of alternative music today would be drastically different if it wasn't for "smells like teen spirit." you can say they're over rated, you can say they're bad, but to deny their influence is to be arrogant to the history of rock.

Exactly. Nirvana's status as legends is not up for discussion. Only someone born after 85 could possible comprehend what music was like prior to '92, and there is no way any of us could make them understand. The words "alternative music," for example, was foreign.

All I'm gonna say is Trixter.

Ok yea, nirvana is over-rated but fuckin' Sublime? There is no that claim holds any water.

Tied with Sublime for "Most Overrated Band Ever". Good band, but c'mon, what was so great? They made the 'grunge' sound popular. So? Alice in Chains was the best Seattle band of that genre anyway, in my opinion.

Just to everyone saying think of all the bands Nirvana influenced today, I'm just curious what mager bands today in the alternative music state nirvana as a mager direct influence on their desire to form a band. examples please.

assuming you mean "major," then you probalby were born after 1991.

point is, before nirvana, music was totally different. they shook the cornerstone of rock and roll - even though they were ripping off ______ (insert the pixies, melvins, whoever here)... they just had a combination of right time right place right sound.

point being, 90% of alternative music today would be drastically different if it wasn't for "smells like teen spirit." you can say they're over rated, you can say they're bad, but to deny their influence is to be arrogant to the history of rock.

that being said, i'll say while i didn't like nirvana much, kurt cobain was an amazing social commentator with using brevity. i'm hoping htis returns because these long winded assholes in modern music annoy me.

i'd be glad to answer your question, but i'll first need to know what "mager" means?

Just to everyone saying think of all the bands Nirvana influenced today, I'm just curious what mager bands today in the alternative music state nirvana as a mager direct influence on their desire to form a band. examples please.

Posted by Dumbloserme on 2006-04-28 17:51:12
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This record is pretty damn good. My favorite posthumous release. Regardless, this band opened me up to music I didn't even know existed when I was 14. I.E. Nofx, Supersuckers, Mudhoney.

To the people who call Nirvana overrated, understand that music is subjective, but think about how many people they influenced to write the shit you are singing along to today. To deny their influence is just plain ignorant.

I don't know enough to talk about whether it was suicide or murder.
But, remember on top of the "inexcusable" reasons to kill yourself, like drugs and fame, Cobain had that constant almost crippling stomach pain.

"you cannot deny the enormous effect they had on rock music, the effects of which are still felt today and will be felt for years to come."

And what, mind you, is so fucking fantastic about rock music today? Every time I turn the radio on I tend to cringe.

This is ok, but I prefer the Arrested Development unplugged a little more.

i honestly didn't know people still believe it was a suicide

Actually the Doors own that title.

And saying overated is overated.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 28, 2006 at 2:13 PM (EDT)
My Score:

most overated band ever

It's hard for me to comprehend what it must be like being born in a post Nirvana world. I grew up in the 70s-80s so I had the chance to witness first hand the grunge explosion and how it changed the way rock music will be perceived forever.

The idea that today's high school kids are too young to have witnessed this blows my mind. It feels like just yesterday.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 28, 2006 at 2:05 PM (EDT)
My Score:

Kurt was murdered.

"As such, I have never heard this album, and this review makes me want to. That's why people should review old albums. Besides, it's not like it's hurting anyone. If you think more current bands should be reviewed, review them."

i think that's one of the most poignant points anyone has ever made on here. i think i'll go through my records/cds this weekend and write a couple myself. everyone else should do the same. one of the things i love about the 'net is that it gives you a chance to find music you wouldn't otherwise.

Re: "not one of you has addressed the fact that he abandoned his own daughter"

i am not going to address something i know nothing about. kurt cobain had drug problems, he was depressed, and clearly not in his right mind. did i know the man? no. do i know what was going on inside his mind? no. all i have is the music. i'm just tired of people focusing on all the negativity instead of what he did. as i already said below.

I like the old reviews. I see it as a way to make sure that if someone unfamiliar with a CD stumbles upon a review of it, it'll make them like it.
I've never been an enormous Nirvana fan. I would never underestimate their influence, they just don't do it for me. As such, I have never heard this album, and this review makes me want to. That's why people should review old albums. Besides, it's not like it's hurting anyone. If you think more current bands should be reviewed, review them.

"They knew that they were overrated and that's why they paid homage to their influences so explicitly. They were true to their roots when they could have pretended that they were originals and no one in mainstream america would have known the difference. You have to respect that."

good point.

I love how much people think Nirvana sold out and then they talk about how overrated they were. They did sell out but not intentionally; they are overrrated. But they were as surprised as anyone when they got their fame because countless other bands like them had not made it and then suddenly Nirvana was the center of the music world. They knew that they were overrated and that's why they paid homage to their influences so explicitly. They were true to their roots when they could have pretended that they were originals and no one in mainstream america would have known the difference. You have to respect that.

" it's fine to not like a band, but an embarassment? if you think music would be where it is today without nirvana, you are wrong."

agreed. i'll stop short of calling nevermind one of the top 5 records of all time or call nirvana one of the greatest bands of all time. but you cannot deny the enormous effect they had on rock music, the effects of which are still felt today and will be felt for years to come.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 28, 2006 at 11:24 AM (EDT)
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no one has a right to judge his death. he fucking killed himself. daughter or not he had reason to do it and did. no one should be praising his death or anything but we should feel remorse. its an awful thing when someone can actually do that to themselves. im sure mr. cobain thought about his daughter before he offed himself. he chose to do it for some reason and none of us have any right to put our two cents in on the matter. leave it alone.

this is a good album. score for the meat puppets

two things. i find it interesting how you all lambaste the other scott for saying kurt cobain was an embarrasment. yet not one of you has addressed the fact that he abandoned his own daughter. and skaboom, nobody has to know who nirvana is to be able to stay in your illustrious car. and i have to say i was surprised that that came from you.

oh, also. i don't want to sound like a dick-hole or anything, but...

"Nirvana were overrated. Kurt Cobain is an embarassment to American Pop Culture. the dude was a heroin addict who killed himself leaving behind a wife, a daughter, and millions of confused and depressed youth, yet he's martyred and idolized everday."

i'm assuming (or praying) that someone is just overstating the case. it's fine to not like a band, but an embarassment? if you think music would be where it is today without nirvana, you are wrong. and as for the man's suicide? yes, it was stupid. yes, it was tragic. but these things happen. too many people (well, not many actually, but some) can' seperate what the man did, from what he created. their loss.

Posted by lostcausegiveup on 2006-04-28 10:35:18
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wow, there really is no review for this? that's a tad insane in the old membrane.
to me, this album showed a lot of people what nirvana were capable of. i loved them since i first heard them, but this showed people that they could do just as well in a different kind of setting, and that it wasn't all about distortion and smashing their instruments. i rarely use the word "soul" when discussing music, but the emotion on this album makes it hard not to. the definitive acoustic album.

remember how big the OFFSPRING WERE!?@?!!@?#

ITS COOL TOO HATE POPULAR BANDS.....

speaking of which...why did someone review this....why does anyone review albums that were released more than 5 years ago? When people review older albums, they only review ones like this. No one would review an album from 1995 of a medicore green day ripoff type band and no one would review an album from 1983 of some shitty hardcore band from middle america that sold 10 lps total. Wait....maybe some one would. Point is: STOP REVIEWING OLD ALBUMS BECAUSE YOUR PERFECT SCORES MEAN NOTHING UNLESS YOU REVIEW MORE ALBUMS FROM THE PAST.

Im in the middle of my simon & garfunkel review now. Such an amazing album. Oh and this old band from my area that were around in 99 called "XCaustic AssaultX. They were so brutal and so heavy and its a shame not more people got to see them live...BUT EVERYONE CAN HEAR THEIR ENTIRE DISCOGRAPHY ON THIS DISC RELEASED ON VLADAMIR RECORDS.

stop relishing in the past

I bet these same kids who don't know who Nirvana is get impressed when they read Rolling Stone: "Oh, the guys in Velvet Revolver were in some other band? Maybe I'll check it out sometime. Guns N Roses? That's a silly name."
When they ask who Nirvana is, just tell them it's the guy from the Foo Fighters' old band.

Wait i just forgot that this was released in like 1998, a few years before breakdowns were invented.

Posted by givemeamuseumandillfillit on 2006-04-28 09:49:37
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Nirvana was alright, would be better if they had breakdowns though.

this review was prompted a few weeks ago after a kid i work with told me he had never heard of nirvana. he was 18.

A few months ago I found out my brothers girlfriend (shes 20) doesn't know who Nirvana is. We were in the car, I was playing a Mountain Goats song where he had a lyric about Kurt Cobain killing himself. The conversation went something like this:

Her: That's kind of gross
Me: It's about Kurt Cobain
Her: Who?
Me: The singer from Nirvana
Her: Who?

I nearly kicked her out of the car.

"Nirvana were overrated."

You sure like that word, don't ya?

>>>yet he's martyred and idolized everday.

No he isn't. The teenage Kurt Cobain cult is all growed up now.

i'm with the other scott.

except he forgot to mention that Courtney Love killed Kurt.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 28, 2006 at 3:42 AM (EDT)
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this is the only nirvana release i like. Its a great record. Everything else seemed to be too overblown, but this is as solid a set as possible. This is more impressive than all the 'rock' they ever recorded.

"the dude was a heroin addict who killed himself leaving behind a wife, a daughter, and millions of confused and depressed youth, yet he's martyred and idolized everday."

One, his wife aint exactly an angel. Two, the confused and depressed youth never asked kurt before making him unwantingly famous, and Three, he didn't exactly go out in a blaze of hendrix/joplin glory, he shot himself in the head, the guy was in pain.

Unless Courtney love hired il duce to kill him, but thats a whole other thing.

wyzo

i remember posting this argument a long, long time ago in anotother Nirvana thread, but i'll post it again.

Nirvana were overrated. Kurt Cobain is an embarassment to American Pop Culture. the dude was a heroin addict who killed himself leaving behind a wife, a daughter, and millions of confused and depressed youth, yet he's martyred and idolized everday.

oh yeah, and if any of you out there ever want to call bands like Rise Against and AFI sellouts, you better remember that Nirvana did it first. (not that i wouldn't, but i rarely call out a band on selling out)

C;mon now, tis is classic and all, but was a review even necessary. Are there really people out there that have no idea about this album?...I must be getting old.

this review was prompted a few weeks ago after a kid i work with told me he had never heard of nirvana. he was 18.

C;mon now, tis is classic and all, but was a review even necessary. Are there really people out there that have no idea about this album?...I must be getting old.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 28, 2006 at 3:09 AM (EDT)
My Score:

classic.

Sorry to burst your bubble man, but in 1994 "Dookie" WAS RADIO POP!!

i should have clarified that dookie, and later this record, got me in to musci that wasn't radio pop - i'm not saying that dookie wasn't considered radio pop, but rather the music i listened to after it wasn't.

sorry bout the mix up

Nirvana are the only punk rock band to go mainstream........Green Day, Offspring...that's just pop music.

A timeless classic

Kurt cheated on this. That geetar ain't "unplugged" on "Man Who Sold the World"....

Posted by dusticles on 2006-04-28 01:55:16
My Score:

blah

wow this takes me back to middle school. great record. this and in utero i can consistently still listen to till this day. green day may have introduced me to punk rock but it was nirvana who got me into rock period.

Posted by iconoclast on 2006-04-28 01:45:15
My Score:

score is for colin and the album!

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 28, 2006 at 1:20 AM (EDT)
My Score:

This is the first band I got into by myself when I was about 9 years old,about 14 years ago. Before them, I just listened to crap like the Black crows and Guns 'n roses.
I haven't listen to Unplugged in a long time, now I want to though.

Posted by Godfather on 2006-04-28 01:18:13
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wow, colin, i think i love you....this deserves a perfect score

Great album. I got this record the same Christmas morning that I got NBA Jam for SNES in grade 6, and each listen takes me back to those days. I can still listen today with the same interest as I did back then when I was growing my hair long and wearing flannel trying to look like a grunge rocker.

i fucking love meat puppets II like no other.

in utero is the only nirvana album i listen to regularly.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 28, 2006 at 12:41 AM (EDT)
My Score:

Maybe it's the fact that I'm not getting any younger, but this is the only Nirvana I ever listen to any more. It's so moody and mellow as opposed to loud and abrasive.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 28, 2006 at 12:30 AM (EDT)
My Score:

The instument that Kurt Cobain was best at working was not the guitar, it was a shotgun!

LOLZ flamebait!

colin, EXCELLENT review. and thanks for reminding me of this album. i just pulled it out of my collection.

its so true. so many bands try to capture "depression" and "emotion" in such overproduced, contrived ways, that when you come accross something raw and real, its so much more powerful and sincere.

"how many reviews on this site open up with someone talking about looking through the reviews and not seeing one for "insert album here"?"

sixty eight, give or take one or two.

"Dookie was the record that hooked me away from radio pop"

Sorry to burst your bubble man, but in 1994 "Dookie" WAS RADIO POP!!

Posted by notfeelingcreative on 2006-04-28 00:13:58
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While this is my least favorite nirvana album I always respected the bands descisions to not do any of their big hits (sans "come as you are") on the show.

how many reviews on this site open up with someone talking about looking through the reviews and not seeing one for "insert album here"? now that im done being negative ill say this is a great album

"how bad is it that you look worse than kurt does right now"
-jeffery ross to courtney love pamela anderson roast