I really like the music....

Nikole

With the exeption of like 3 songs this album fucking kills it, best songs...we dance, under my feet, zing pong, who crosses state lines and opinions and assholes

Psh, dumb review. I can't get enough of this album. Every song is extremely addicting. None More Black is my new obsession.

Immensely underrated band.

Okay, I didn't really give the rest of the record a fair go when I last posted in here. After a few more listens I think the rest of it is pretty good too.

When This Is Satire came out, i found it terribly boring and way too sloppy. I decided to give it another chance a month ago or so, and i was simply blown away by the brilliance of this record. It's one of the finest of the first half of 2006, no doubt.

Come on, this album is great.

I have only heard a few tracls off of this...but I really like what I have heard. I was never so into Kid Dynamite and I dislike Paint It Black, so I'm pretty surprised by how much I dig this.

Under My Feet to Opinions & Assholes would make a fucking killer EP

Other than those songs this album is kind of blah

"We dance on the ruins of the stupid stage" = written on Jay and Silent Bob's blueprint in Mallrats. I noticed that last night and thought "wow. That's random and cool."

I really, really like this album. One of my top 3 of the year so far, for sure.

3 stars for the 3 out of 13 songs I liked. Too many slow songs. If they whole CD sounded like "You suck! But your peanut butter is okay" or "With the Transit Coat on" it would be good but I just don't think jayson has the same energy with this album as he did with the previous.

this record is good, but it gives you the feeling the next one will simply be better.

I got this about a month ago and it took me awhile to really get into it but now I love it. Great song writing.

What a dumbass the album was fuckin awesome i have been listening to it all the time

the only thing is it makes me a little sad and reminds me of one of the greatest punk bands Kid Dynamite

this cd is WAY too much fun. it's real catchy and i can't stop listening to it. i'm satisfied.

I disagree with the review , great record! I like it alot more than "File Under Black".

you guys are gay, this album kicks ass.

different...but i like it a whole lot

i don't know how this album will be live but i really enjoy listening to it

This album is a big letdown. I returned it immediately in exchage for an old Naked Raygun CD. Ah, much better.

you have a terrible way of judging people. i'm glad i dont know you.

An opinion on this album is my new way of judging people. I think it's one of the best albums I've ever picked up, all the way through. If someone I meet doesn't like it, I don't I like them either.

first time ap.net had a better review.

good for you punk

In addition to my previous comment, I also like how they pulled a Social Distortion and threw in some really good country-esque tunes.

Wow. I picked this up yesterday, and it's blown me away. At first, I was skeptical about a few songs such as "Wallpaper" and "I see London" because initially, they sound awkward and avoid conventional melodies and such. But everything that first sounded sketchy is growing on me fast.

"Zing Pong" steals the show in this album. Brilliant song. Great record.

"Peanut Butter is mocking the fans, not the band. Read the lyrics more carefully with that in mind and it'll be clear."

i see the fans thing, but it still seems like there are some jabs at AM!

so when crooky drops an album, will you be giving it 8 stars or 9?

Probably neither, since our scoring system doesn't go that high.

EXCELLENT record.

Peanut Butter is mocking the fans, not the band. Read the lyrics more carefully with that in mind and it'll be clear.

In other news, this is really good stuff.

mediocre at best

Meant 3 stars, my bad...

Ok, I've given it the dozen listens. Under My Feet is really good. Opinions and Assholes has its moments. A few other songs do too. Overall, though, very few songs are consistantly great, and some (Majestic and holy crap I See London) are just awful. Overall not unpleasent to listen to, because the good moments are as good as any band around now, but yeah... if you liked File Under Black (which I absolutely did), you might be disappointed.

i've come to the conclusion that at first listen it isn't that great. But after probably 10 or so listens it gets better, and then add in the lyrics and it gets reeeeaaaaally good. Not great, but it gets probably a 9.5 at best, but you really have to listen and let it grow on you.

alright serious, You Suck! But Your Peanut Butter Is OK, is it critizing Against Me! or their fans?

and fucking We Dance On The Ruins Of The Stupid Stage is such an awesome song. And yeah, to a point i'm getting tired of bands complaing about being in a band and how hard it is. It just seems like they are singing about it more, but musically this song is awesome and they lyrics kick ass so its great.

I had the most fuckedest dream ever last night. I got the Kid D DVD that day and watched it three times.... and then in my dream Jason Shevchuk died in a car crash, I was really sad :(

Albums not tooooooo bad, but NMB in general are not my thing.

Posted by Anonymous:

"The Refreshments rock. Everyone here should download Refreshments "Banditos""

Hey dipshit, did you ever go to brush your teeth and have it taste funny, like somebody took a shit in a pile of toothpaste?

Yes, unfortunately I remember The Refreshments. Some dickbag who lived in the same hall in the dorms as I did freshmen year played whatever single they had repeatedly. That's OK, though, because I put his toothbrush in my asscrack one day, so he got what was coming to him.

eh, just ok

best record of 2006 so far. Such a progression from File... they're incredible

Hot damn this CD is good.

This album sucks, and this band is filled with liberal fags.

I pray for their death.

Jason said "It's about how Against Me's fans get really pissed off at them and for some reason they still take favors from the band and pay to go see them."

"this will be the dear you of our generation... trust me kids, in a few years you will agree"

Sorry but no. Nothing against this album but that statement couldn't be further from the truth.

Stuhl sez, this shit was a waste of time to download. i'd rather hear a kd demo.

Bacardi and Cola...they get the job done

This didn't grab my attention right away, but neither did File Under Black. My favorites so far:

Zing-Pong
Who Crosses State Lines...
10 Ton Jiggawatts

Nah it's cool, I was just giving you kudos for some good writing.
Let's agree to disagree.

Haven't heard this one yet but this band has always been right on the edge of me feeling like it was worth getting their stuff. Score's for each of their previous 2 CDs, I don't know that I'll be getting this anytime soon but I probably will eventually.

CantSitStill

R3venge_Therapy: your review is much better than mine.

On the progression thing, I'm listening to it again, right now, for maybe the 20th time this week.
It just sounds (to me) like the same approach to songwriting as there was on FUB and LAL.
Again, that's just me.

musically, it's a huge progression. they sound entirely different musically, and that's what i'm talking about. it's more mid-tempo and less based on fast-as-fuck songs that move a mile a minute. i wasn't trying to say my review was better, but i was trying to say that they don't sound like the same band musically. the score doesn't piss me off, it was just a couple things that were mentioned seemed like you hadn't listened enough. i understand if you don't think it's that great.

so i havent picked this up, only heard the song on fat and am a huge fan of their last two efforts. after saying that, should i be worried?

-David Ward

this will be the dear you of our generation... trust me kids, in a few years you will agree

oh god please tell me that was a joke.

R3venge_Therapy: your review is much better than mine.

On the progression thing, I'm listening to it again, right now, for maybe the 20th time this week.
It just sounds (to me) like the same approach to songwriting as there was on FUB and LAL.
Again, that's just me.

Would I recommend this album? Absolutely.
Am I going to trade it in at the local store? Hell no.
Do I think it's good? Yes.
Do I think it deserves a perfect score? No.

this will be the dear you of our generation... trust me kids, in a few years you will agree

Posted by Anchors on 2006-05-02 17:52:27

Posted by Crookedsuperhero on 2006-05-02 17:44:57
Yeah, the reviewer is wrong. They have progressed.
Into a boring shell of what made the first three releases great.

Man, you whine like my fucking 6 year old sister couldn't even dream of.
so when crooky drops an album, will you be giving it 8 stars or 9?

I meant to give it 4 stars, not a 4. Yes, I'm an idiot.

This was my preseason #3. It hasn't disappointed.

I KNOW THIS GUY WITH AN AGENDA TO HIS NAME
HE CALLS ME HIS FRIEND BUT I DON'T WANNA KNOW HIM NO NO

best album this year so far.

Posted by Crookedsuperhero on 2006-05-02 17:44:57
Yeah, the reviewer is wrong. They have progressed.
Into a boring shell of what made the first three releases great.

Man, you whine like my fucking 6 year old sister couldn't even dream of.

Yeah, the reviewer is wrong. They have progressed.

Into a boring shell of what made the first three releases great.


i don't even know you anymore.

I can see the whole "Peanut Butter" being about Against Me!, but is it critical of the band, or is it mocking the people who criticize the band? In a lot of ways, I see comparisons between this album and Former Clarity. They have both traded in intensity on their former albums/bands for more melodic, slower songs. On both albums, there are songs about the struggles of being in a band. (Stupid Stage and Unprotected Sex). I don't see how NMB can rightfully give AM! shit for doing lots of the same things they are doing.

Yeah, the reviewer is wrong. They have progressed.

Into a boring shell of what made the first three releases great.

shit, the comment below this post was mine.

and the link works. go figure.

CantSitStill
I encourage anyone who is patently offended by my review to submit their own review to the editors.

here's my review. I still think it was dumb to say they haven't progressed in their sound.

http://www.scenepointblank.com/reviews/779

damnit, the link won't work. copy/paste if you wish.

I like this album a lot. More than the new Thursday at least...

letmego: i'd probably have given this an 8. it's a really strong album that is still growing on me. i love loud about loathing, but this has a different vibe altogether and it's really great.

however, comparing hte two isn't really possible - they're two totally different genres of music.

letmego: possibly because different reviews are written by different people.
its like how crazytoledo gives every posthardcoremoshscreamosweaterrock5000 album a 9 or 10, even when we all know they're not worthy of more than a 3.

Fuck it, I'm ordering this anyway. "Under Your Feet" is a really great song.

-Chinatown

Why the new thursday get a near perfect score when NMB get a 3/5 ?

I cant understand people calling NMB records "just ok". I think everthing they have done has been exellent and this record may be the best yet.

I'd think it'd be about the jackass kids who shit on Against Me! the second they got big, but I could be wrong?

5 stars.

"Peanut Butter is about Against Me!, Jason said so himself."

like being critical of there band? thats the way i see it.

I disagree on the progression statement. There definitely is progression. File under Black was a full on straight forward punk cd... Satire has a lot of new flavor some of which carried over from the Load About Loathing EP, which I thought was a big step forward musically. Either way, I think this CD is better than FUB and LAL.... maybe it's because I played those two out, but it is a really really excellent CD.

Sickboi, you can never have to many "Whoah-oah"s.

I dig this album alot. It's full of great catchy tunes. Jason's lyrics on this one feel like a punk rock Bruce Springsteen.

"woah woah woah? NMB fanboys? I wasn't expecting this to be nearly as good as it was, in fact I was almost expecting to be let down"

That's another problem with this album. Whoah on the fucking whoah's.

their new drummer is nowhere near as good as dave w. i dont think there are any unique/difficult drum parts on this entire album.

woah woah woah? NMB fanboys? I wasn't expecting this to be nearly as good as it was, in fact I was almost expecting to be let down.

three stars!?!?!?

this album really grows on you, and while it's taken more than just a few listens for me to enjoy it, i now realize just how amazing it truly is.

Honestly, the only part of the review I really take exception to is the claim that they haven't progressed musically. This sounds nothing like FUB, and it's a further exploration of the classic rock influences that were at the forefront of LAL. i honestly can't say what my score is, because I never know how I feel about a NMB album until about a month after I got it.

I like it.

i like how its equal part rock and punk. they bring out a more rock'n'roll feel, like the EP, then on file under black.

these guys can only get better.

Hey, adults can say "suck" too.

joeg: also, its not like 6 is that bad a score. the kids are revolting like it was giving a 3 or something. i myself wouldve put this at a 7.

wow the none more black fanboys are getting mighty testy with the all powerful scoring system. this record isn't bad but ultimately i struggled to get through the entire thing and that's not a good thing either. meh. i'll split the difference.

I encourage anyone who is patently offended by my review to submit their own review to the editors.

I also don't understand why anyone is personally put off by a "good score" (i.e. 3 stars) for this album. I would've given the new Thursday 3 stars as well, but I didn't write that review, so Colin has the right to give it 4.5 if he wants.

I'm not going to defend anything I said in the review, but if you don't like it, submit your own. My review is just my 2 cents.

apply below...

This is a very good album. As for the reviewer, he's entitled to his own opinion, I just don't agree with it. Don't sleep on this one!

P.S. - Are the lyrics in the liner notes of the retail version?

so you disagree with a score.

what makes a bad review is not describing what the album sounds like and trite writing style.

"Brian and I determined we are the only people on Earth that prefer File Under Black over Loud About Loathing..."

no, i'm going to have to agree with you there. I love File Under Black, and when i heard Loud About Loathing i was like, yeah this is really good, but not File Under Black. which is a good thing, i don't want the same thing over and over, but i liked File Under Black more.

Everyone'll think I'm an idiot, but...
None More Black>>>Kid Dynamite.

Anyway, is there some real, obvious Lucero influence I'm not hearing, or is everyone on here just comparing it to Lucero because it's the only stuff they listen to that's even slightly country?

"Brian and I determined we are the only people on Earth that prefer File Under Black over Loud About Loathing..."

No way dude, tons of people prefer File Under Black to Loud About Loathing! I thought I was in the minority prefering Loud about Loathing.

Yeah, fair score i think. Really, pretty poor after Loathing.

Peanut Butter is about Against Me!, Jason said so himself.

give it a few more spins... and you won't be able to stop.

I originally had this pegged as a "meh" album, but after a couple of extra listens, this is one of my favorite punk albums to come along in a long time. The songwriting is odd, unique and eventually endearing.

Maybe I'm crazy, but is "Opinions and Assholes" a jab at those bitching that NMB doesn't sound like Kid Dynamite?

As for this album, the good songs are REALLY good, whereas there is some filler.

Brian and I determined we are the only people on Earth that prefer File Under Black over Loud About Loathing...

"Interestingly, the instrumental fade takes a good minute before ending, something NMB isn't really known for."

What's Inside Bone from their first Seven Inch had a 2 minute instrumental ending. Both songs are first track and both of them are amazing.
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Don't forget, "Drop The Pop", "Never Heard Of Corduroy", "Banned From Teen Arts", "The Affiliates", "Nods To Nothing", "Peace On Mars Cuz You Ain't Gonna Get It Here", and "I'll Buy You The Fucking Single".
I don't know what you'd call the exits to all those songs, but they're all pretty similar (not the actual notes of music and such, but with the longer musical outro).

This reviewer did a piss-poor job at reviewing this great album. I like it better than their last two releases, and better than everything Kid Dynamite.
Actually, I'd give everything Kid Dynamite and NMB (before this) a 9, and this a 9.5.

Fuck y'all.

agreed, this is one of the best records this year. with the exception of that thing in the middle of the album, its fucking great. if you think this is just mediocre, you probably havent listened to it enough, or are to dense to get with the lyrics

"Interestingly, the instrumental fade takes a good minute before ending, something NMB isn't really known for."

What's Inside Bone from their first Seven Inch had a 2 minute instrumental ending. Both songs are first track and both of them are amazing.

Not a very good review. Those first couple tracks are straight out amazing.

Score is for this album. Tied for best of '06 with the Souls.

" It's a real grower."

the only thing this album is going to be growing is dust on my shelf
it's such a disappointment
half of the thing is just boring as shit

You Suck, but Your Peanut Butter's OK is a killer song. I think for better or worse, NMB finally came out of Kid Dynamite's shadow for me with this disk and subsequent live show. (Yes, I'm still talking about that performance, it's been the only one I've seen in a loooooooong time.)

Oh, and the Loud About Loathing EP is amazing.

Brilliant album. It's a real grower.

Six? A fucking six?

Fuck you, asshole!!!

This album is fucking fantastic! Whoever reviews your None More Black albums is a douche.

The problem I always seem to run into with NMB is this, It's Jason, and his voice always conjurs images of Kid Dynamite, and it is so unfair to think of that greatness when compared to NMB's standardness.

I loved the Refreshments. Fizzy Fuzzy Big And Buzzy is a killer rock album that can probably be found in every cutout bin in America. The follow-up, The Bottle And Fresh Horses, wasn't bad, either.

-Scott

the peanut butter song.........is that about against me!!!???

While this isn't nearly as amazing as File Under Black, it is still a very enjoyable album after you give it a few listens.

"i absolutely love this album. one of my favorites of the year. it has a "searching for a former clarity" ness to it."

That's probably why I don't like it. SFAFC was AM!'s worst release and this is easily NMB's worst release. I really like when NMB do fast aggressive songs but this "lets slow everything down" deal isn't working for them in my opinion. When I saw these guys in Feburary, they played a couple newer tracks and i was not pleased with it as like I am now after hearing the album. Well, atleast Paint It Black's recent release totally kicks ass.

Score for Defiance, Ohio's show on Saturday.

i see london is my favorite drinking song these days. just great depresso punk.

I like this album. True there are some Lucero vibes in this one that might make fans a little bit puzzled. But it's not that bad a record to be called a disappointment.

However, I wouldn't be hailing this as the best Fat release out this year. They went towards a positive direction and maybe the next record would step it up a notch.

Ramo

i think the best songs are the opener, i see london, and 10 ton jiggawatts

i love the end to 10 ton jiggawatts

I disagree with this review as well! The album really sinks in after a few weeks and you have to give it time to sink its hooks into you. I really like this band now.

The Refreshments rock. Everyone here should download Refreshments "Banditos"

i absolutely love this album. one of my favorites of the year. it has a "searching for a former clarity" ness to it.

While None More Black may not have "progressed" musically from their first album (and Jason's lyrics are still hard for me to follow)

HAVEN'T PROGRESSED?!!! are you nuts?!! man, i never get mad about reviews, especially on this site, but this is so far off base that it's almost insulting.

and you can't understand his lyrics? why not? i think they're very cleverly written, as they always have been, even in Kid Dynamite, and they convey his feelings prettly clearly, just in a unique style. man. whatever.

"Best album of the year so far, reviewer's got his god damn head up his ass if he can't see it."

I disagree, best album of the year by far is Defiance, Ohio's The Great Depression. I believe the reviewer did a very nice job, its just that the album was lacking overall.

I can't wait to get this tommorow. Jason is definatly one of my favorite vocalists.

Not horrible, not very good either. I was expecting a much better release than this one especially after Load About Loathing. COuld be worse though.

it took me forever to finally get into file under black. il still try this out though. the artwork is badass

Best album of the year so far, reviewer's got his god damn head up his ass if he can't see it.

What would you expect though from a jackass who rated the new Some Girls higher than this though?

kinda boring

good review of this one. my favorite song on this is "under my feet".

This cd actually is neck and neck with Oh Calcutta for me.

not what i was hoping for, but not entirely bad. the question of the day is: where's the rock?

The Lawrence Arms are my favourite band (that are still playing), but I listen to this album way more than Oh Calcutta for some reason.

I wasn't expecting much from this, because the new songs I've been hearing live had bored me, but surprisingly, I find myself really enjoying this album. I'll probably be into the songs more live now.

i also agree 100% with the score

this review is far off. this is the best record so far this year. how many times did you listen to it?! After listening around 60 times (not exaggerrating) this is five fucking stars, no more, no less.

10 Ton Jiggawatts is one of the best songs I've heard in years.

You know, the new alt-country-via-Lucero vibes, I'm not minding them at all. But this entire middle section is really just...flat. The songs are drastically missing that energy and conviction of the earlier stuff like "Banned from Teen Arts," "Everyday Balloons," and the RAB track you mentioned. Most of the songs are decent, a few legitimately good ("We Dance...," "You Suck!," "Majestic"), but there's just very little fun and fire otherwise.

I'd call this a disappointment, but Loathing was only inches ahead. Totally agree with the score.

This album is great. I think they've progressed drastically since the first album.

I thought that this was pretty weak. I still kinda like it but it's not really what I was hoping for