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Thursday: A City by the Light DividedA City by the Light Divided (2006)
Island Records

Reviewer Rating: 4.5
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Contributed by: colincolin
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I always figured this would be Thursday's 'make or break' album. Though they put forward a strong attempt with War All the Time, it wasn't able to match the all-around intensity and drive that made them so incredibly popular with Full Collapse. I thought if they weren't able to do it with this relea.
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I always figured this would be Thursday's 'make or break' album. Though they put forward a strong attempt with War All the Time, it wasn't able to match the all-around intensity and drive that made them so incredibly popular with Full Collapse. I thought if they weren't able to do it with this release, they never would, and would soon fade off into a list of bands that had a strong foundation but never grew into their own voice. Fortunately for Thursday, A City by the Light Divided buries any idea that this band can't reinvent themselves. This seems to be the record the band tried to make with War All the Time, but wasn't ready to.

This isn't an album to be judged by a song. Sure, there are some on here that could be labeled as the best songs Thursday have written (the haunting "Sugar in the Sacrament" or the ferocious "Into the Blinding Light"), but in order to really appreciate how far the band has come since the days of Waiting, this has to be a record listened to front-to-back.

Musically, this is gold. It is simultaneously Thursday's most diverse collection of songs as well as their most coherent. The production of Dave Fridmann (weezer, The Flaming Lips) is well done, but I'd say at times is a little too obvious; the introduction to "Telegraph Avenue Kiss" is great, but I wonder about the ability to reproduce a few of these songs live. Production aside, this album manages to feature the melodic ("Running from the Rain"), the poppy ("Counting 5-4-3-2-1"), and the intense ("At This Velocity"), and still sound like a singluar piece of art.

One of the biggest debates about Thursday has always been lead vocalist Geoff Rickly. He's obviously been practicing, because the vocal range on Divided is great. From the unrelenting "The Other Side of the Crash" to the soft comforting vocals on the sparse introduction to "The Lovesong Writer," Rickly has never been this good. Lyrically, I felt War All the Time to be weak at times, and while Divided doesn't feel as lyrically dominant as Full Collapse, parts like the end of the epic "Autumn Leaves Revisited" showcase Rickly's talent of writing desperate music with an undying sense of hope;

There must be somewhere that cigarettes burn through the night and leaves don't abandon their trees to the light, the sky is always clear and the summer never ends. Won't you take me there?
All praise aside, I don't think this is a perfect record. While Rickly's vocals are better, they're not at an expert level, and in some songs I can hear the familiar strain of passion and tension in his voice, whereas at times on the record it sounds methodical and practiced. "We Will Overcome" seems almost forced, almost too reserved. As gorgeous as "Autumn Leaves Revisited" is, I enjoyed the aggressive quality from the demo that was leaked on to the internet months ago. Obviously you cannot fault a band over their recording choices and leaked material, that's just a bit of personal opinion in there.

Many times when a band releases a record that is radically new and different from their traditional sound, it divides fans and risks losing the foundation that built the band to begin with (with labelmates Thrice being a good example). With A City by the Light Divided, I would say the band has released an album that not only will prove themselves to their oldest fans, but also invite those that wrote them off as a half-talented emo band to think again. I started listening to Thursday when I was 17; now, at 23, the band is able to remind me why I initially loved them, as well as showing they're growing musically, as well.

This is a great release for Thursday, and I'd say that they no longer have to worry about besting Full Collapse. Unfortunately, for a band that set the bar so high on themselves once and have now done it again, they've got a big challenge in making an album better than this. Until then, I'd expect this to be making rounds on quite a few "Best Of" lists come the end of the year.

 

 
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swellersfan7407 (March 27, 2009)

If you dont like this record, listen to the song "We Will Overcome" its so solid

discostew42788 (January 8, 2009)

I think the songs are genuinely good... I just think the recording quality is bullshit. Thursday kicks fuckin' ass, don't get me wrong... they are still awesome. But I think they should have stood with the recording quality they had with WATT... or even Full Collapse for that matter...
There is wayyy too much clipping in the drums. I thought that if I bought it, I could stand to listen to it above the streamed internet versions. I was wrong. I think it's listen-to-able because it is written well. I am not gonna hate on them because they did something different, because they did it pretty well... they still sound like Thursday. I think that recording wise... this was a step wayyyyy backwards.
I am a bass player, and I will be the first to say that the bass is too loud in most of the album. Geoff's awesome voice is buried deep in the mix for most of the album, which really sucks, because I just want to know what he's saying.
Now that Kill The House Lights is out, and we have Panic On The Streets Of Health Care City compared to The Other Side Of The Crash... I think it is a little bit ironic that the more primitive version of the song is the one that got the better recording quality.
I can't wait till the new Thursday album... because if i'ts going to go in the direction that the split with Envy, or KTHL went... It should "sound" amazing atleast.

To sum up my opinion: Great writing, great ideas, it's Thursday... but it sounds like an amateur recorded it in a garage. I am aware that there are garages that sound amazing... but not this garage... this garage isn't so hot.

ludichrisspeed (September 20, 2008)

I still don't like this album. A few songs are listenable, but Rickly's voice is starting to hurt my ears and while his voice is distinct, it distinctly does not fit most of the tracks for me.

Tangy (March 19, 2008)

Bleeeuuuuggggggggggggggghhhhh

tmfxjohn (January 28, 2008)

maybe i just didn't "get" it. but i simply didn't enjoy acbtld nearly as much as full collapse or war all the time. perhaps it was the overabundance of atmospheric interludes, or perhaps it simply wasn't as good as their past two albums.

Satelliteyrs (January 16, 2007)

top 10 fav of last year

draterami (November 30, 2006)

definately grew on me... its not an easy listen
i think that Thursday definately changed their sound for this record... they didn't have any epic soaring songs like "autumn leaves revisited" and "the lovesong writer" (incidentally, my fave songs on the album)
the song that started out as being my favourites (We Will Overcome), i like less now... but its the songs that require a second listen to get the full effect that become more rememberable

hail_stone (August 15, 2006)

I really like this record but Thursday sold out in a big way. I mean, running from the rain is in a car commercial for chissake.

coldwaffles (August 14, 2006)

Wow.

I think I finally "got" this album. It's incredible.

Some of the tracks are iffy, but 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11... Awesome.

I thing The Lovesong Writer and Autumn Leaves Revisited are my favorites...

bman420 (July 17, 2006)

This band has been my favorite band since '02. But....I'm having trouble getting into it like I did with the other three albums. It's not easy to make it through the whole thing with out wanting to put somethin else in my cd player.

Anonymous (June 7, 2006)

"honestly, one of the things that i liked so much about thursday back in the day was the fact that geoff couldnt sing. now that he can, its just boring. it doesnt have that same sense of urgency."

honestly, it was better when i used a diaper cause like, not knowing how to take a shit, it added certain adrenaline rush to the mix, but now that i know how to crap into a toilet, it's like, so fucking boring

fucking retard

jumptheshark (June 1, 2006)

Really good album. "Sugar in the Sacrament" is one of the best songs I've heard in a while.

Anonymous (May 18, 2006)

"That being said, can thursday stop using 5-4-3-2-1, countdown, or new years eve metaphors? And fucking car crashes.

Do they write with a tiny dictionary?"

5-4-3-2-1 isent a new years eve countdown. the song is actually about getting out of new jersey and actually doign somthing. and i think it was a good idea witht he other side of the car crash. seeing how understanding in a car crash really was they song to get them started..and "the other side of the crash" is a great idea since this cd was obviously going to be under so much critisim.

Now when i first listened to the ablum i just thought it was a good album. i dident think it was as good as full collapse. but it grew on my after listening to it a few times and now im in love with the cd. def. outdoes full collapse.
good cd.

Anonymous (May 18, 2006)

"That being said, can thursday stop using 5-4-3-2-1, countdown, or new years eve metaphors? And fucking car crashes.

Do they write with a tiny dictionary?"

5-4-3-2-1 isent a new years eve countdown. the song is actually about getting out of new jersey and actually doign somthing. and i think it was a good idea witht he other side of the car crash. seeing how understanding in a car crash really was they song to get them started..and "the other side of the crash" is a great idea since this cd was obviously going to be under so much critisim.

Now when i first listened to the ablum i just thought it was a good album. i dident think it was as good as full collapse. but it grew on my after listening to it a few times and now im in love with the cd. def. outdoes full collapse.
good cd.

Anonymous (May 14, 2006)

Best thing they've ever done.

Full Collapse was half amazing tracks, and half pretty boring songs.

War All The Time had the best song they've ever written (For The Workforce, Drowning) and was better musically, but unfortunately that song was the only standout and the rest kind of blended together

this kinda combines that

Anonymous (May 12, 2006)

thursday are back!!!

Anonymous (May 12, 2006)

questoalbum e' bellissimo e i thursday sono ilmiglior gruppo !!!

Mixhail (May 11, 2006)

i bought this yesterday and i am digging it so far. just like Menos El Oso, this cd takes awhile to grow on you. This is the equivalent of "Vheissu" for Thursday except some how Thursday succeeded in their "new" direction because it seems as if they kept alot of the energy and passion from the "full collapse" days intact despite the fact that there is a consistent emphasis on mood and atmosphere that hangs over the entire cd.
I also thought that "war all the time" sucked balls with exception to a few songs (Steps Ascending and the Title track), so its good to see them rebound from their first major label try.

I like "We Will Overcome", "Telegraph Avenue Kiss" and "Autumn Leaves Revisted" the most so far. "At This Velocity" reminds me of Converge ALOT.

Anonymous (May 10, 2006)

uhhhh i'd say telegraph avenue kiss is the "blatant u2 influence" track

running from the rain doesn't strike me as u2-esque at all

crazytoledo (May 8, 2006)

Posted by aahhhh on 2006-05-04 13:12:18

you'll spend...all of your money in there!


Gotta love that line... But wasn't it 'Be careful...you could spend all your money in there.'

Hostel was great.

Anonymous (May 7, 2006)

I'd just like to comment that the guy below who said this doesn't sound like U2 is a moron. You've got to pick up the influence, at least on Running From The Rain. Sure, it's not as blatant of a U2 wannabe as the Angels and Airwaves album, but it's obviously there.

Anonymous (May 5, 2006)

hahahha

Anonymous (May 5, 2006)

The 7 inch is "Counting..." with a B-side "Even the sand is made of seashells" and that was no secret. Anybody with google could've found that out.

Thursday is lucky enough to say they have minigenerations of fans that have album preferences and hold individual releases close to their hearts for separate reasons. And some fans, like myself, who look forward to each release in a major way, because they believe it'd be hard to be let down with such a lineup.

What's unfortunate is how many of you seem to have failed fourth grade english class. No wonder the only criticisms you can come up with involve album art and thank-you's.

As for the question of "being pulled off live", I was at the free show in Asbury Park, Wednesday, and the only choice I questioned was "Running from the Rain", which is absolutely beautiful but not too crowd-rousing. "Lovesong Writer" was just as amazing as I'd expected it to be live. The end of "Sugar in the Sacrament" had everyone going nuts.

GreenVandal (May 5, 2006)

"devils takin it all"

Couldn't agree more!

Anonymous (May 4, 2006)

is it a joke to list the name of your vocal couch on the booklet?

What is a vocal couch?

pdlawry (May 4, 2006)

really good album. cover art is shitty, but inside is actually really nice.

Anonymous (May 4, 2006)

background music. nothing sticks out. very boring.

fucking flames had to lose, i was so hoping for calgary/edmonton, what a fucking series that would be.

i think the oil can take care of the sharks

Anonymous (May 4, 2006)

the artwork does suck shit though.

Anonymous (May 4, 2006)

takes a couple songs to get going but then i think it's brilliant.

definately up there with Full Collapse

Telegraph Avenue Kiss and At This Velocity are standouts.

domotime (May 4, 2006)

Beautiful album? That's the only way to describe the album...they're fast song aren't very impressive, and are lacking in excitement. It's a VERY instrumental album...and it's a great album to listen to by yourself.

Anonymous (May 4, 2006)

Your Shit and you're only bored coz u have stopped batting off to avril lavigne for the first time in 2 years you ignorant bell-end. This album is good, and kudos to thursday for a constant stream of albums. They might not win a huge amount of fans with this one. But at least they are keeping them happy!.

aahhhh (May 4, 2006)

you'll spend...all of your money in there!

Anonymous (May 4, 2006)

shit artwork! shit sticker on the inside of tray! shit lyrics! shit thank yous inside! is it a joke to list the name of your vocal couch on the booklet? im bored with this and im not going to give it another try! fuck this band!

Anonymous (May 4, 2006)

"Thursday needs to go acoustic. Or atleast make a whole acoustic cd."

I can't make up nightmares like that.

Japanese horror can't. I asked takashi miike, he was like 'thats fucked up'.

wyzo

Anonymous (May 4, 2006)

this is boring

Anonymous (May 4, 2006)

sabres in 6 over san jose.

Scruffy (May 3, 2006)

"a city that is divided by light would make more sense but then again it doesnt sound out of the ordinary and strange"

Wow, has anyone told you that you have absolutely no sense of poetry? And, by the way, the title makes perfect grammatical sense, it's just inverted a bit.

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

i got this cd about a week ago and after listening to it for about a week im not as disappointed as all these people seem to be...i was a big fan of war all the time...this cd is still def worth listening to even though the vocals seem a little weak at times but still a great cd

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

devils takin it all

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

i just got it and its not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. its boring at parts but theres still a few songs worth listening to. although Geoff's voice does get annoying after u listen to it for 20 min.

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

So i got a city by the light divided today and was disappointed. Am I the only one that thought War all the time was a good cd? To me they stuck out more from most bands out there because of the lyrics in that album and Geoff's distinct voice. Now its filled with simple lyrics and Geoffs voice buried behind.
(Its still a good cd though, they are still great)

boba_fett (May 3, 2006)

jersey wins the cup.

eleanora (May 3, 2006)

Good release...if not progressive in any respect.

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

a city that is divided by light would make more sense but then again it doesnt sound out of the ordinary and strange

Kidswhowearmakeuprgay (May 3, 2006)

This band has alot of talent. Full collaspe was wow and war all the time was ok. What thursday need to realize is that they shouldnt be taking themselves serious expecially political cuz lil emo kids like you guys are just buying their record not actual intelligent people. I'll prob just dl some songs counting 54321 is a good pop song.

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

Thursday needs to go acoustic. Or atleast make a whole acoustic cd. The acoustic version of "A Hole In The World" is the best thing the bands ever released. They were always decent, but that song in acoustic form just totally blows me away. Geoff's voice is so amazing acoustic. It just works better. Not to mention, "This Song Brought To You By A Falling Bomb" is also amazing....not acoustic, but piano...and almost as great. Seriously, an album of all acoustic, piano songs would be freagin great. Atleast a full acoustic/piano album of their best songs. God that would be amazing.

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

FCUIK YOUR GRAMMAR. IF PEOPLE DON'''''''''''''T KNOW THEIIIIIIIIIIIIR GRAMMAR....FUCK THEM

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

sabres vs sharks

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

Not bad, I may need a few more listens. The good thing is that I got this at my local indie store for only 10 bucks, which is a steal considering CDs are usually 15 bucks there.

DC

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

they're = they are, as in they're coming here in a few months.
there= place, position, as in set the shit sandwich over there.
their= posession, as in their sound is blah blah blah.

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

I bought this from iTunes last night. The production on the iTunes version sounds like shit. It's all "fuzzy" and trebled out. What's up with that?!

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

I am fucking SHOCKED SHOCKED SHOCKED that any of you ass mongers are taking this band seriously. Shame on you! Seriously, SHAME ON YOU!

GreenVandal (May 3, 2006)

Sens are going down. Carolina is going down. Jersey will beat Buffalo. The West is anyones guess at this point.

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

i loved full collapse back in high school.
i thought war all the time (save for the first song) sucked horribily.
i'm listening to this album now..we'll see how it goes.

the flyers got flat out embaressed.
sens/buf next round.

boba_fett (May 3, 2006)

honestly, one of the things that i liked so much about thursday back in the day was the fact that geoff couldnt sing. now that he can, its just boring. it doesnt have that same sense of urgency.

GreenVandal (May 3, 2006)

Geoff is the worst singer ever.

colin (May 2, 2006)

The review says that Thursday no longer have to worry about "Besting Full Collapse," but it also says "Divided doesn't feel as lyrically dominant as Full Collapse."
This doesn't make any sense. In order to be better than another album, Full Collapse in this case, it would have to be, at a minimum, as lyrically dominant as that release or more dominant. By not being as dominant, it stands to reason it cannot "best" Full Collapse.


uh... no. lyrics are only part of an album. every other aspect of this record beats full collapse - even if just by a margin. overall it's a better record.

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

The review says that Thursday no longer have to worry about "Besting Full Collapse," but it also says "Divided doesn't feel as lyrically dominant as Full Collapse."
This doesn't make any sense. In order to be better than another album, Full Collapse in this case, it would have to be, at a minimum, as lyrically dominant as that release or more dominant. By not being as dominant, it stands to reason it cannot "best" Full Collapse.

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

was anyone else disappointed with the production? Especially with the vocals? they have a singer with such a distinct voice as his and they buried it behind the rest of the music. i can barelly hear what he's saying. This is just first impressions as I've only listened to it in my car so far. This has potential to be a great live album

mattp330 (May 2, 2006)

to the fool below me: you have to be kidding, in no way, shape or form does this sound like U2, taking back sunday don't compare, and tom delonge is going to fall on his face without mark hoppus, i hope "the adventure" isn't the best he has to offer

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

i cant belive this douche bag gets to review records. the new taking back sunday is way better this peice of shit u2 rip off record. fuck i would even say angels and airways is better at this sort of crap and that is saying a lot.

SlackMFr (May 2, 2006)

I think it's hilarious that people on this site always rate how the reviewer rates an album. Are you that pathetic and bored? Or do you like to constantly bitch like a 4 year old? Everything doesn't need to be butchered down to your size? Reviewing a review, go outside a bit, it's spring and you're a pasty patsy of the internet.

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

there is a bonus 7 inch with some pre-orders, but no one ever lists whats on it, like I'm going to fucking buy it because its 'special' and a 7 inch, so fucking underground. A blank 7 inch of wax with no songs.

Anyway, i'm sure this review is a bit overhyped.

I'll listen to this a few times like I did with war, great occasional pop music.

That being said, can thursday stop using 5-4-3-2-1, countdown, or new years eve metaphors? And fucking car crashes.

Do they write with a tiny dictionary?

wyzo

greyicewater (May 2, 2006)

did anyone buy the deluxe edition? what is special about it? just the digi-pak?

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

I am still warming up to the new album, but I saw them in Allentown last night and they were fucking amazing. Great Show.

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

I'll be buying this today.

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

Full collapse was amazing, and really set the tone when it came out. I have heard most of this record and it is great. I remember seeing Thurday on warped tour maybe 4 years ago when they played on a small stage and they were one of the best bands I have ever seen live. So much energy! Can't wait to see them again this year on mainstage at Warped!

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

Horrible review. "Musically, this is gold"

What do you know?

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

brilliant album.

and the flyers blow out the sabres tonight at the former FU center.

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

this cd is pretty good. when i compare these to all the other bands i listen to in high school (tbs, alk3, brand new) these guys are the only ones that seem to have grown for the better.

p-fresh (May 2, 2006)

I haven't heard this yet, and I actually forgot it came out today.

I was trying not to spend much money but I'll probably go out and get this today or tomorrow.

crazytoledo (May 2, 2006)

There coming to my city in less than two weeks.

This album's insane.

rinjonjori (May 2, 2006)

This album is great, head and shoulders above War All the Time. Rickly's vocals and the bands music really give those Smith's comparison'd credence.

http://rnanothersunnydayinpop.blogspot.com

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

I'm still happy I spent my money on None More Black instead.

Allular (May 2, 2006)

One of Colin's best reviews.

I'll probably check it out today.

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

score is for how many goals the sabres will score tonight

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

Score is for how many goals the flyers will score tonight

tylerdurden8136 (May 2, 2006)

hey g-dawg, he judges it on the genre, as well.

I judge the record against hte past works of the band (which I think this bests) plus the works currently out there in their niche (in this case, popular post-hardcore).

tylerdurden8136 (May 2, 2006)

i haven't listened to this enough times to give it a fair score, so i won't.

my initial reaction is that i'm not enjoying it all that much, but i really need to get a good copy of this so i'll probably go out and get it in the next few days to see what it truly sounds like.

either way, nice review colin.

Crookedsuperhero (May 2, 2006)

I've looked at some of your reviews before but never really paid any attention. You don't like the stuff i do, which is fine. I don't care, and neither do you.

But this was just one of those times where i saw the band name, looked at the score and thought 'what?' I still don't see how you can just judge an albums score based on the how it compares to the bands previous efforts only though.

colin (May 2, 2006)

You judge it by that? So....the last Hawthorne heights album was a ten?

It would be foolish of me to judge Thursday against, say, Bad Religion. I judge the record against hte past works of the band (which I think this bests) plus the works currently out there in their niche (in this case, popular post-hardcore). I don't see other bands reaching out beyond their screams and wailing guitars and chants of death and impending tragedy. Most are still trying to figure out what Thursday did to get Full Collapse to sell so well.

As for your Hawthorne Heights comparison, I've never heard them but I assume they're either pop punk or a Taking Back Sunday-ish half screamy band. Either way, I'd probably judge their album based on the fact it's a re-hashing of a copy of a mostly unoriginal effort to begin with, and probably give it a poor score.

If you don't agree with my score, that's fine and I respect that. Howver the fact I've been reviewing albums on this site for three years and suddenly you start questioning how I review them? Come on, give me a little more credit than that.

Crookedsuperhero (May 2, 2006)

You judge it by that? So....the last Hawthorne heights album was a ten?

That's the stupidist thing i've ever heard. Well, almost.

boba_fett (May 2, 2006)

full collapse was amazing, war all the time wasnt. ill have to hear this one first, but i dont have high hopes.

colin (May 2, 2006)

A 9?

Please.


a 9 for thursday - i really don't think they'll be able to beat this. is it a 9 in the entire spectrum of music? no, but i think if you look at it in the context of thursday and thursday-like releases, it's really high up there.

and re: jesse: thanks for pointing that out, really. i always like someone to point out my writing faults so i can try and eliminate them. i'll work on that in my future reviews.

benz (May 2, 2006)

"This review doesn't tell me anything about how this album sounds. You just say they re-invented themselves. Bowie re-invented himself with each album, so did Madonna. You have to tell us how they changed."

the main problem is they haven't changed at all. i do not hear anything that the reviewer is talking about.

-benz

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

i heard it about a week ago. im on my way to pick it up now. fine album by my favorite band.

steve

rubyx (May 2, 2006)

War All The Time is clearly Thursday's best album. This isn't as bad as Waiting though.

Crookedsuperhero (May 2, 2006)

A 9?

Please.

joeg (May 2, 2006)

jesse is correct. for someone who has never heard the band, words like "epic" "intense" and "poppy" are nice but you still have no clue what the band sounds like. having said that, i've heard thursday before and while seeing that they are a step above the bands that try to ape their style, this band does absolutely nothing for me.

Jesse (May 2, 2006)

This review doesn't tell me anything about how this album sounds. You just say they re-invented themselves. Bowie re-invented himself with each album, so did Madonna. You have to tell us how they changed.

Scruffy (May 2, 2006)

"MARiTIME REVIEW, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

How about you review it, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

Fantastic album from the best band of a really shitty, watered down genre...it sucks when people pass them off just because of the company that they find themselves in sometimes

9/10

Otter (May 2, 2006)

I listened to this yesterday and the musicianship is top notch. I really like it

OzmanX (May 2, 2006)

These guys don't do it for me, the record is meh.

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

I thought this was the secret page to get the The Refused DVD torrent link.

Bastards.

greyicewater (May 2, 2006)

i am extremely anxious to hear this record. this review made me excited to hear it. i'll be picking it up tomorrow. i'll give a score then.

benz (May 2, 2006)

This is not a 4.5 star album. This is the same album thursday has been releasing for years. i like thursday, don't get me wrong, but its about time for that promised change and experimentation.

-benz

colton (May 2, 2006)

Ignite isn't out till May 16th so the review won't run till then. But the short version is that it's amazing and possibly the best thing they've ever done.

I... I love you. I just wanted to say it.

colin (May 2, 2006)

i'd also like to add i just heard the unused b-side, "even the sand is made of seashells" (which was on the 7" and itunes bonus)... and it's really, really strong and totally different than anything thursday has ever done. it makes me really intrigued as to what was left off the disc.

UncleFunkyPants (May 2, 2006)

I'm picking this thing up later today. It will be good. I'm sure of it.

maverick (May 2, 2006)

I've been listening to this record all day, and while I'm not freaking out about it, it's definitely solid. Dave Fridmann made this band sound incredible -- it's like the Flaming Lips gone post-hardcore.

-Scott

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

[Sorry for the spam]

Anyone have an extra ticket for the Alkaline Trio / Against Me show at the Metro on Thursday? I just got screwed out of one.

If so, email me at ftacos@hotmail.com. Thanks.

Anonymous (May 2, 2006)

Is this the band with that CHEESY ass video where they're on the train and there's some guy in a hat falling around?

If so, they blow and this album is trash.

-Will

colin (May 2, 2006)

i'm not listening to this until i have the full cd in my hands, but i have a feeling it will be a dissapointment, especially lyrically.

there are parts lyrically that are poor... while i know what he's saying metaphorically in "we will overcome," i wish it was a less awkward chorus. but there are some really gold lyrical moments too.

elvaq - in regards to counting, i didn't like it until i heard it with the album, and then it seemed to fit right in and make sense.

RRK (May 2, 2006)

Hmm, just from listening to the stream, We Will Overcome has become my favourite song so far. That will probably change, but it doesn't seem forced at all to me.

LevitateMe (May 2, 2006)

Where's the Sunset Rubdown review? That's the question.

Pitchfork will review it tomorrow and give it a really high score and it will lose all of it's mystique.

I'm just kidding, but I like it when my reviews go up a couple days after I submit them.

ElVaquero (May 2, 2006)

I still don't get why everyone thinks the new Ignite is any good. Am I getting out of touch with punk? A lot of it seems really cheesy and lame.

Scruffy (May 2, 2006)

Also, I didn't mean that to sound as contrary as it does. I'm just so psyched for that show.

Also, I never really liked Thursday, but in dealing with colin (he's doing the art for my band's album), his enthusiasm for this CD has me intrigued.

aubin (May 2, 2006)

Where's the Ignite review?

Ignite isn't out till May 16th so the review won't run till then. But the short version is that it's amazing and possibly the best thing they've ever done.

TheOneTrueBill (May 2, 2006)

So Colin, are you on staff now?

Scruffy (May 2, 2006)

"Also totally stoked to see them tonight with mewithoutYou and Minus the Bear. Now THAT is how you put a lineup together."

No, how you put a lineup together is Lagwagon, The Lawrence Arms and A Wilhelm Scream. I cannot wait for this show.

ElVaquero (May 2, 2006)

Also, am I the only one who thinks "Counting (5-4-3-2-1)" is possibly the most annoying song ever?

nietzsche (May 2, 2006)

i'm not listening to this until i have the full cd in my hands, but i have a feeling it will be a dissapointment, especially lyrically.

songs about car crashes are so '99.

ElVaquero (May 2, 2006)

Are you kidding? this album is sub-par and the worst thing they've done since their debut. It sounds incredibly uninspired and bored.

DarrenMcLeod (May 2, 2006)

I listened to the album a couple of times but wasn't really feeling it. Judging from your review it might grow on me, though.

colton (May 2, 2006)

Where's the Ignite review?

Godfather (May 2, 2006)

good album...i need a few more listens before i can judge it fairly though...right now i give it 8/10

RondoMondo (May 2, 2006)

The stream was amazing, this cd has blown me away.

InaGreendase (May 2, 2006)

I've only heard "Counting..." and "Running from the Rain" (Dear Appleseed Cast, Hey!) and the 5 leaked demos, but decided to avoid the shitty myspace stream and just wait to have the full thing in my hands. I'm pretty much convinced this will be amazing, as was War.

Also totally stoked to see them tonight with mewithoutYou and Minus the Bear. Now THAT is how you put a lineup together.

danperrone (May 2, 2006)

colin you're great but i disagree

very good review, but i can't give this more than a 6

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