haven't changed much in 2 years huh anchors? from the undying review.

Posted by Anchors on 2004-08-26 14:39:30
My Score:

The fact that a singer is a girl makes them suck more.

Score is for female singers.

Oh i see what you did there.

Stop being such a girl.

Countering sexism by telling someone to "grow some balls" is hugely amusing.

Posted by Archangel on 2006-09-11 22:22:00
My Score:

Score is for Kevin Spacey.

Posted by rinjonjori on 2006-09-11 15:49:19
My Score:

THis was pretty week when compared to the Original Sinners debut album. 3/5 of the band is new and come from a Rockabilly band. Their sound is much lighter. There is a couple of good songs but...

Lets face it, the reviewer dude likes to look at bros on stage, not vag. whatever, it's cool bud..

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 11:39 PM (EDT)
My Score:

Anchors. What the fuck?

-GreenVandal

While this cd is far from spectacular, basically calling Exene a Hynde/Smith wannabe is incredibly ignorant. Exene's vocal and lyrical styles are significantly different than the aforementioned singers, and too be honest, I think her vocals combined with John Doe have much more depth than Hynde ever had.

There are a crazy number of great punk and indie bands with female vocalists...if you dismiss them just because "they have a chick singer," you're seriously missing out.

Scruffy and joeg have pretty much hit the nail right on the head in regards to the sexism found in this revew (whether intentional or not), and in the subsequent comments. It's pretty disappointing to read what most people are saying here.

Hahaha! I'm not a huge fan of X, so I don't know from her very much, except that her guest vocals on The Old 97s' "Four Leaf Clover" are wicked rad.

can we all agree that exene sucks ass?

The difference is:
It's not sexist to say you dislike most female singers. That can be true, and not an opinion. It is sexist to be automatically skeptical of a band when you hear that the singer's a girl.
I've said that I don't think what Anchors meant was sexist, just worded so that it could come off that way. What prompted my original post was mostly FuckYouOiOiOi's statement, which is undeniably sexist.

he basically said he doesn't personally care for female singers. That isn't sexist, that's a preference. If he had said "female singers don't belong in punk bands" or "chicks can't sing" or something, that would be sexist.

Personally, I love it when bands have a good male/female dynamic, a la Fifth Hour Hero or One Reason

Posted by Kursk on 2006-09-10 09:52:28
My Score:

I like X to a pretty good degree and I like female singers in general especially Aimee Echo of The START, Ashley of Red Knife Lottery, Maura Davis of Denali/Bella Lea/Ambulette, and Laura Nichols of Light This City (even though Light This City are a thrash metal band, she is still the vocalist and d amn fine one at that) but I can't get into this. I heard a couple of songs before the album came out and said to myself "ok, meh"

Wow, way to post anonymously and not counter ANY of my arguments. Why not get some balls, register a name and try to use logic instead of insults next time.
And I wasn't using gay people as anything more than an example of a smaller minority group that is more largely represented in anyone's CD collections. The word "gay" is not a swear word or a holy word. I was merely referring to statistics. I don't see how what I said could be interpreted as homophobic, and if that's not what you meant, I have no idea why you're complaining.

scruffy is a peice of shit.

and the casualities suck. I can dig women singing when it's good stuff, this is not good stuff. Pretty awesome to drop gays into this conversation too.

X sucked. hard.

there. i said it.

Posted by 1234go on 2006-09-09 10:32:56
My Score:

You used "gravitas" twice. You lose.

See, if you expand your definition of "punk" beyond "irritating noise coming out of dogpile jeans and Sex Pistols shirts", then you'll find it's not all shrieking.
Also, isn't the Casualties vocalist the definition of "shrieker"?

high pitched shrieks are annoying to listen to and thats what most female punk singers are. like x-ray-spex.

but crass, conflict, the distillers all have good female singers that work really well (especielly with crass and conflict).

i think the "funny" links are getting out of hand a little bit

use it when there's something legitamately funny, don't abuse it

anchors, why did you even review this? Brian, why did you post this?

I think what Anchors meant isn't sexist, but the way he said it came off that way. This:

"Female singers are for synth-pop and pop"

however, is sexist.

It depresses me when I look at my CD collection and see almost no bands with female singers. That's 50% of the population whose perspective I am not getting. It's attitudes like that that cause a lot of girls to think they can't sing punk, or cause them to imitate the few who already have.
Why are girls always the people who sell the merch while guys are always on stage? It shouldn't be that way.
The fact that about 50% of the population is female and only about 10% is gay, yet I can guarantee you, out of the approximately 20 days worth of music I have, there are ten times as many gay artists and/or musicians as females, makes it obvious that sexism is one of the biggest problems in punk rock. I refuse to believe that there is something inherently "male" in punk rock that attracts mostly guys. Maybe there is, but if not, even the makeup of this site's regular commenters signifies a problem.

Loelz, Anchors is getting ripped for stating the truth. Female singers are for synth-pop and pop, unless they have angelic voices that somehow mesh into any genre, which is rare seeing how angelic voices rarely ever pair with ambition.

He doesn't sound like a sexist. Sexists are usually blunt with their beliefs.

I agree with "Scruffy," what a disgusting review. I haven't heard this album (and have little interest), but the idea that you basically separate female-sung from male-sung bands on the basis that one is inherently inferior? Not cool, man.

the back up band on this is the seven shot screamers. that is why this album is called seven. she saw them play in st.louis and invited them to back her up. in return she would put their next album out on her label. the seven shot screamers fucking rock. what an exciting thing she offered these local st louis kids. chris powers......congradulations. i love you, your band , and your whole fucking family (if i could of only married your sister). ill be forever supporting you!

The Vincent Black Shadow is a band with a fantastic female singer.

Posted by lushj on 2006-09-08 15:48:47
My Score:

Exene is one of my favorite vocalists, hands down. I was really excited about this record but as a fan, it just doesn't do it. Maybe when I come back to it in a few months...

And yeah, I think the review is pretty lame even though I agree with your score for the record.

Yeah, but you don't need to make that statement. For every 1 Jawbreaker or Clash or whatnot, there are 10,000 bands with male singers that suck.
Also, FuckYouOiOiOi's statement, sheesh.

Let me state for the record -- when there is a good female singer, I can definitely enjoy the record. There are just very few instances where I actually do enjoy bands with female singers.

Discount, Pohgoh, Holy Roman Empire, Denali, Rainer Maria, The Anniversary, all of those are bands with the lead, or one of the lead singers being female, that I enjoy.

But for every Discount, there's 100 bands with female singers that are absolutely awful.

Wow, you could cut the sexism in here with a knife.

wow i thought it was pretty cool

While I think Anchors is completely nuts about the female singers thing, I have to agree this is a pretty boring record.

-adam

I haven't heard this, but Exene is awesome and I love female voices. X is one of my favorite all-time bands and there are many great female vocalists out there. Whoever can't hear that, it you that is missing out.

you may not be sexist in the chauvinistic implication we all associate it with, but that was still a poor and unfair review because you prefaced it by stating you had bias against female singers presumably before you even heard the record. if you're going to say exene's singing on here sounds boring and dead, independent of any preconceptions, then fine. you're entitled to your opinion. but those statements don't carry any credibility because you've already held female singers to this insurmountable plateau only achieved by a select few. why even review it if you're going in with that approach?

oh and I agree there are lots of great female singers, exene isnt one of them

Posted by TheNightProwler on 2006-09-08 01:04:29
My Score:

I dig female singers a large majority of the time.

score is for her work in X because I haven't heard anything from this album

Epoxies, The Sounds, Distillers, Be Your Own Pet, New York Rel-X, and Vice Squad are all good bands with female singers.

Posted by Mute98 on 2006-09-08 00:59:03
My Score:

ive completely loathed everything exene has done, this included

i completly agree with female singers in punk bands. its annoying.