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Fall Out Boy: Infinity on HighInfinity on High (2007)
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Reviewer Rating: 1.5
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Contributed by: colincolin
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A great man once said, "Nobody ever lost money from lowballing the intelligence of the average American." The new Fall Out Boy record, Infinity on High, is a guaranteed example of this. I will admit that about a minute and a half into listening to this album, I was thinking to myself, "Oh no, is .
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A great man once said, "Nobody ever lost money from lowballing the intelligence of the average American." The new Fall Out Boy record, Infinity on High, is a guaranteed example of this.

I will admit that about a minute and a half into listening to this album, I was thinking to myself, "Oh no, is this band actually going to break the rules of mediocrity and produce a really great album?" Over the next 45 minutes I was proven wrong, but I will say that the first song, "Thriller," is pretty great.

However, it seems the band had a really great first track and then just used that as a template for the rest. I know that the 'R&B'-influenced single, "This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race," doesn't sound just like it, but every song on this album seems pretty standard. Most of the songs on the record average the three minutes and change mark. They're the epitome of predictability in their verse-chorus-verse structure. And you still can't understand a damn thing the lead singer says.

Now, you might be saying, "But Colin, this is pop music. This isn't supposed to be anything innovative. It's made for a general populace that has little to no appreciation for anything substantial." Well, I agree, but let's compare this album to Blink-182's Enema of the State, both being the second 'big' records by bands on major labels that don't sing about much other than girls. While it could be argued Blink just stuck with what they were good at and watered it down a bit, Enema managed to be coherent and simultaneously diverse, while Infinity is all over the place and simultaneously bland.

But most of these things can be ignored, because it's pop music. Here's my huge problem with the record: This is the most vain, self-indulgent trash I have heard in such a long time. The first four songs talk about being pretty or the 'scene' way too many times. It seems like Pete Wentz didn't want to actually take time out of his life to write lyrics, so he just pulled some recent notes in his diary about how conflicted he is for being a model and a millionaire, as if we're supposed to feel sympathetic towards him. Wentz even gets the vocal spotlight for a few seconds in the, uh, 'core-ish' breakdown to "The Carpal Tunnel of Love," where he proves he knows how to use his voice just about as much as he knows how to use a Sidekick. It's a laughably horrible and awkward part of the record that pretty much shows this is absolutely nothing worth listening to more than once.

I feel similar about this album that I did the last Fall Out Boy record; somewhere, within the 47 minutes and 51 seconds, is about four or five solid minutes of good tunes. However, finding those four or five minutes and enjoying them probably won't be worth your time. Everything about this record, from the unnecessarily long (and pretty lame) song titles to the, "Somehow I'm getting away with asking for more attention" style the lyrics are written in to the overall lack of ingenuity makes it pretty obvious Fall Out Boy is totally content with being disposable pop music for the masses of 14-year-olds who will eat this record up. This record makes me think how it wasn't that long ago that Blink-182 was MTV's breakthrough band, and how the guys in Fall Out Boy should take a cue and realize no one should take themselves this seriously.

 

 
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tmfxjohn (January 28, 2008)

sub par and far too serious to be taken seriously. boy band-ish melodies aren't completely off-putting, but it makes "take this to your grave" era fall out boy all the more enjoyable. it's not all bad, but fall out boy has done better

ihateyoubecauseiwantto (January 15, 2008)

fucking sell outs. been to one of their shows? fucking great energy and great performance but unless you want to get trampled by 10,000 "Mrs Wentz" t-shirt wearing "emo" chicks then stay away. They were so much better pre-FUCT release. Pete Wentz is to some degree some sort of lyrical genius buta band who was only ever BORDERLINE punk, they're now not a far cry from being a new tattooed and black eyeliner wearing N-SYNC! What a total shame!

Justlikeacat (December 24, 2007)

I was going to come on here and say all the negative things about them that I could think of, but I dont even think it's worth it. i can see the pre adolescent "I must be emo" fans coming out and attacking me already!

cagedpopmachine (October 3, 2007)

Even months after the release of Infinity On High, I'm not that excited about it. I love fall out boy, for the wit of the songs on Evening Out, and Take This To Your Grave being a solid record. but this? I'm not sure, there are some good points, there are some good songs, but it wentz's lyrics are entirely lacking. It's not very witty or clever compared to where the band was at a few years ago.
"Don't You Know Who I Think I Am?" is fairly clever and catchy. I hope the band does release this as a single, I could see them doing a peter pan video. I think that would some kind of compensation for the below par lyrics, the most glaring of which is "I'm so sorry but not really/ tell the boys were to find my body"
"You're Crashing But No Wave" is hard to appreciate with out knowing the backstory that wentz drew from. "Hum Hallelujah" could be good but gets off track with having a church-like chorus.
overall, it's worth a listen, but try not to go into it with any expectations, not matter how you look at it's it's not quite what you'd expect.

SammyVicious (September 25, 2007)

This CD was ok some songs were big disappointments. I understand song and sound changes, but they sold out. Now everywhere you look Pete's face is there. WHERE THE HELL IS THE REST OF THE FUCKING BAND!?!?!? PETE WENTZ IS NOT FALL OUT BOY!!!! Every time I see a picture of them Pete's so fucking close to the camera that everyone else is blurry! WHAT THE FUCK!!!

Fall4Pete (September 24, 2007)

Hey jackasses Fall Out Boy rocks ok.... so just shut ur fuckin mouths and go jump off a bridge while ur at it.

Anonymous (July 29, 2007)

fall out boy sucks balls. these emo pussys are the biggest posers ever, they should stop making music then go cut themselves

indianna (June 25, 2007)

why does anybody give a sh!t abut who dates who!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!??!?!?! pete can date who ever the f*ck he wants! anybody who thinks he's gay or something is nothing but a mother f*cker whore of a jelous b**tard!!! and needs to get a f*cking life!!!! and grow up!!!! pete has a great life and is very blessed!!! i usually dont cuss btu everybody here just p!sses me off!!! only the HATERS THOUGH!!! stop trying to make us SUPPORTERS think otherwise!!!! u cant control us and the way we think!!! so u know what!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!????????????!!!!!!!? !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! go 2 mother f**king he!! b!t3he$!!!!

u ppl need to get a f**king life!!

Anonymous (June 25, 2007)

why does anybody give a sh!t abut who dates who!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!??!?!?! pete can date who ever the f*ck he wants! anybody who thinks he's gay or something is nothing but a mother f*cker whore of a jelous b**tard!!! and needs to get a f*cking life!!!! and grow up!!!! pete has a great life and is very blessed!!! i usually dont cuss btu everybody here just p!sses me off!!! only the HATERS THOUGH!!! stop trying to make us SUPPORTERS think otherwise!!!! u cant control us and the way we think!!! so u know what!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!????????????!!!!!!!? !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! go 2 mother f**king he!! b!t3he$!!!!

u ppl need to get a f**king life!!

pitoresco (June 12, 2007)

I liked the last 2 fob albums, even so from under the cork tree demonstrated that they were selling out...anyway, it was an very good album, where the first 3 musics stucked in the head sooo easily. and the lyrics were good. This album is worse and even more commercial and my patience reached the limit...like my chemical romance, they get more and more commercial whit each album, and fob got worse and dumber. many songs give me the felling "a have already heard it", stump´s voice sometimes is incredibly "pop-sounding" and the whole album is over-produced. it´s ironic that the first songs criticize the critics of the bands and this is their poppiest album to date...not enough, they have a hip-hop/r&b/any-nowadays-crap single...fucking assholes. and there are not any music that stuck in the head like the last album singles...and more, there arent really many specials lines in the lyrics like before...

after all, this isnt a completely bad album because they have at least some talent, but they are getting worse and stupidly selling out

Anonymous (May 15, 2007)

well jesse "boy band" means that they sing sappy love songs...and dance.....fall out boy is not a boy band!!! backstreet boys, nsync, 98 degress are boy bands u dumb ass!!!

Anonymous (May 10, 2007)

TO
DAVID

ur totally right.
fall out boy is not even punk.
stupid bitch boy band

----- jesse

Anonymous (May 10, 2007)

god christ motherfukers.
whats wrong with ur fucking ears!!!
fall out boy is so lame.there songs are to long and their fukin sell outs cause of that bitch pete wentz......lol he's a fukin lame ass........ashley simpson!!! what a fukin queer

--- david

Indianna (May 1, 2007)

Who the f*** do u think u r? !!! never did i think any body would ever say " fall out boy sucks!" like u just did! u odvisously dont know what is good music and what is not! fall out boy is great music!

kitty2102 (March 27, 2007)

Who the hell is the person who reviews the new cds that come out??? And why is he comparring fall out boys new cd to blink 182??? Is this person insane??? He is making it sound like fob should sound like blink 182.... News flash there will never be another blink, just like there will never be another elvis presley!!! every band has there own sound, i don't care if it is counrty, rap, or even rock, there well always be songs about girls, sex, drugs, and heartbreak and everyhting in between!!!! and plus i can understand everything that the lead singer is saying, maybe you should clean the wax out of your ears.... Oh never mind your brain might leak out if you do.... Fall out boy rock!!! and screw anyone who say other wise!

xohannaxo (March 24, 2007)

Best album.. The messages you get from the lyrics are abounding & high-minded... The band is the best ever because they stand up for what they believe and aren't in the business for the money... I can't wait I got tickets to their May 12th concert.. Row T =(

Anonymous (March 21, 2007)

OKAY FallOutBoy PWNS!! u ppl are weird!!! THEY ARE THE BEST BAND EVER!! along with The Academy Is!!! im going to their concert and its going to be INSAAAANNNEEEEE!!!! if you guys don't like FOB u obviously just don't know good music....psshhh you ppl are FREAAAAKKKKSSS!!!

SayMySkirtIsSoShort (March 5, 2007)

what kind,any kind, of punk band starts out their album with some rapper offering "shout-outs"?

FLpunk (February 23, 2007)

WTF is this even doing on "punknews.org." If you want punk, buy Reinventing Axl Rose instead.

ash-ley (February 21, 2007)

Fob new cd is the best!!

Anonymous (February 18, 2007)

Fall Out Boy’s new album is great. There are some great interviews and music videos of their new album on mtvU.com. Here is the link:
http://www.mtvu.com/music/spankin_new_music/

jy (February 14, 2007)

I love fall out boy pete is hot and i love there video "this aint a sceen, its an arm race.

Anonymous (February 14, 2007)

This album for me is like Good Charlotte's "Chronicles Of Life And Death" that after the success of "Young and Hopeless" GC came up with a boring and empty album,, is almost the same with the new cd of FOB, it is boring some of the songs sound the same and are pointless, maybe a couple of good songs,, It sucks because their first two albums are great but this is a big disappointment...

Anonymous (February 13, 2007)

Anyone hating on this band (or any other) for any reason besides the fact they don't like the music, is a fucking fool.

Calling them sell outs is laughable... It's a pop punk band, formed by members of previous metal bands. They started the band as a business move, seriously. They did it for the money from the beginning.

That said, this album kicks ass. Them crying about their fame is hilarious to me, because I doubt they actually are. They've only realized they can write whatever the fuck they want and they'll still sell out shows and make their profits.

So no, this band is not punk rock... It never has been. Nor is any other recent pop punk band. It's not about fighting the system or whatever it is you mohawk jocking fucks do these days.

If you like pop punk, you'll like this album. Anyone claiming otherwise, is just trying their hardest to hate fall out boy because of who they are... Not for their music.

Anonymous (February 12, 2007)

I've been a Fall Out Boy fan since the release day of Take This To Your Grave and I have to say, this is, in my opinion, the best album the boys have ever made. Say what you will, but you can tell they put a hell of a lot of energy into this (especially Patrick Stump, who can only be described as "insane" here) and I believe the results are more diverse, mature, and catchy than any past release

rkl (February 12, 2007)

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 12, 2007 at 9:29 PM (EST)
My Score:

Im a HUGE fan of FOB
and i gotta admitt i was pretty disaspointed!!
although i like some of the lyrics
but i really miss the old FOB!
they're kinda like green day now


quit fooling yourself, im hardly a huge green day fan(pretty much quit listening after "time of your life" single came out), but this band is the equivalent of green day's smegma

Anonymous (February 12, 2007)

Im a HUGE fan of FOB
and i gotta admitt i was pretty disaspointed!!
although i like some of the lyrics
but i really miss the old FOB!
they're kinda like green day now
Thriller was dedicated to us

fugazifreak (February 12, 2007)

I'm a huge FOB I did not like this album it was just disponting

fugazifreak (February 12, 2007)

I'm a huge FOB I did not like this album it was just disponting

fugazifreak (February 12, 2007)

I'm a huge FOB I did not like this album it was just disponting

SilentStorms (February 12, 2007)

A bigger map of mainstream garbage! Hence the crappiness of mainstream music.

Shortie (February 11, 2007)

Screw the fact that I'm a big fan of the band, cause even if it was the first time I heard of this band, I would've bought the record. Infinity On High still does not beat Take This To Your Grave, but these boys made a hell of an album. If you love sounds of the 80s and early 90s, you shouldn't really have a problem. Most bands and artists have tried to fuse rock and hip hop together, or rock and R'nB together but ended up with a record that sounds just the same as the genre they started with in any case. This album did exactly that, and you can hear the different genres they used instead of one. They didn't produce an R'nB album which some people expected to happen. If you had really high expections or devastatingly low expections on this album, you're bound to be dissapointed or change your mind. If there's something the guys are good at doing, it's making records that are a lot different from the last one, which is awesome. I'm sick of buying some bands' records and basically hear the same stuff as the last record and think, I might as well downloaded this instead of buying it at the store. Unlike the last album, this one is not about Pete Wentz only, it's also about the three other guys he shares this band with. There may be some faulties in this record, but at the end of it, it's one of the best records that will put this band on an even bigger map.

Anonymous (February 10, 2007)

pick up a Black Flag or Fugazi album and stay away from this crap

Anonymous (February 10, 2007)

Herny Rollins or Tony Victory who would win a fight to the death

skolarx (February 10, 2007)

tracks 7 and 8 are probably the best songs fall out boy have ever released. the jury is still out on the rest of the album though, i found myself skipping a lot of tracks

Anonymous (February 10, 2007)

i have only heard two song of there new cd but i love them

Anonymous (February 10, 2007)

Foul alt yob.

jumptheshark (February 9, 2007)

What a piece of shite. Laughably bad. They seem like something someone would make up as a parody of Fall Out Boy, it's just so asinine.

"this record isn't that bad. it's not that good, but in musical terms i'm sure anyone of you would rather listen to this than beyonce, nelly furtardo or any of the other bands in the billboard top 10. to get all punk police on this album is about as constructive and worthwhile as bum-puffing a cigarette"

One, we're (at least i'm) not getting "punk police" on it and I dont do that. I'll admit, I loved that recent My Chemical Romance album. that said, this is just shitty fucking music. I'll take Beyonce or Nelly Furtado any day

rejectedbyrequest (February 8, 2007)

I'm confused...why would anybody buy a Fall Out Boy CD in the first place?

Scruffy (February 8, 2007)

"what happened to the actual "good" stuff?"

On another band's CD, like it's always been.

D00M3D (February 8, 2007)

this album is the epitome of ridiculousness.
their new song sounds too synthetic, fake, and overdone.

what happened to the actual "good" stuff?

Anonymous (February 8, 2007)

what happen to Grande Jumper
what happened to their underground days
now it sounds like a generic poppy Fugazi album
seriously what happened

LosPeptobismol (February 8, 2007)

>>>i would get a refund and use the money to buy a metallica,panera,or led zeppelin cd before you commit suicide.

Is Panera going the Starbucks route?

Anonymous (February 8, 2007)

sounds like a generic version of Rites of Spring meets a poppy version of Ian Mackaye
Fall Out Boy was good what happened
I really love Take This To Your Grave

Anonymous (February 8, 2007)

sounds like a generic version of Rites of spring meets a poppy version of Ian Mackaye
Fall Out Boy was good what happened
I really love Take This To Your Grave

Anonymous (February 8, 2007)

Dude, if someone was to ask me who is the gayest band ever, i would respond either panic! at the disco or fall out boy. punk rock is the biggest insult on musicans ever, with few exceptions(like ranicd, matt freeman is an animal). this insult usually isnt that big of a deal, until you come along fall out boy. you find yourself wondering how someone could even get a gig at a bar, let alone what they have acomplished already. this band is overrated more than any band ever. if you someone get coned into purchasing one their albums, i would get a refund and use the money to buy a metallica,panera,or led zeppelin cd before you commit suicide.

JKyle (February 8, 2007)

Score is for grealy's comment.

hayz_182 (February 8, 2007)

whatever happened to "The Pros And Cons Of Breathing" Fallout Boy?

This album, and the last, are terrible.

they're losing it big time. They are MASSIVE sell outs, and Pete proved it from his crying after it was leaked over the net, yer i suppose a band would be annoyed, but it HAPPENS. It's not as if their pockets are empty, they should be happy some people actually want to listen to that excriment they call a cd.

agreed?

- hayz.

cadavermine (February 8, 2007)

This review was accually pretty accurate except for the "14 year olds are gonna eat this album up" part. Cuz it's the pop loving preps that are gonna make this album big, and most of them are like.....17

Anonymous (February 8, 2007)

the fall out boys are laughing all the way to the bank. they couldn't care less about the feedback generated from spoon-feeding this poop to the masses. they're booking tv shows, tours, selling a ton of records, buying fancy cars and houses....good for them? this record is bad, bad, bad. the jayz intro is pathetic. my girlfriend loves it though! so there's always that? i threatened to use her disc as a coaster for my ice cold beck's last nite...she was not amused.
-TOBB

Anonymous (February 8, 2007)

To the guy below me:

Yeah because Spin and Rolling Stone know shit about music.

Anonymous (February 8, 2007)

http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/falloutboy/infinityonhig h

on metacritic (a site that combines a whole bunch of reviews) Fall out boy is actually doing pretty well. Score wise they are higher than Bloc Party, Clap your hands say yeah, Incubus, Jay-z, Norah Jones, and 44. I have not yet listened to this cd yet and probably wont but judging by the single this is not my cup of tea.

Anonymous (February 7, 2007)

Comparing Fall Out Boy to Blink-182 is like comparing Hitler to Bush. They both suck, but one sucks substantially more than the other.

m-oo (February 7, 2007)

When I saw FOB a couple of years ago, I was wearing my larry arms t-shirt. FOB's merch guy came up to me and was talking to me about how amazing the larry arms were. He also got me a free pint.

This album is at best a 4/10 and I like FOB to an extent.

My score is for the merch guy at that gig!

damnitsderek (February 7, 2007)

I'll admit Under The Cork Tree was fairly empty fun, this isn't generic it just isn't done very well. If you want good interesting pop music check out some of Of Montreal's work, Belle & Sebastian or hell even The Format. There just isn't any need for a record like this.

Perfect. Of Montreal is a really good band. I enjoy them, and Peachcake as well, even though the guy's voice sounds very reminiscent of Brandon Flowers.

Anonymous (February 7, 2007)

This band is such a joke. Just make them go away, PLEASE!

grealy (February 7, 2007)

this record isn't that bad. it's not that good, but in musical terms i'm sure anyone of you would rather listen to this than beyonce, nelly furtardo or any of the other bands in the billboard top 10. to get all punk police on this album is about as constructive and worthwhile as bum-puffing a cigarette.

good review, as it was done properly. like i said, contextually, this album isn't that bad. the singer can really sing, and the way it's produced/recorded is hot as hell. of course on the down side, the lyrics are totally balls and pete wentz totally has his hand on it. the thing i like most about this record though is that it gets mad discussions going like the one going on in this forum.

score is for Hov. he once said "like it or hate it man, at least y'all feel something", and i think that this is never truer than when talking about an album like this. these types of reviews should be on this site.

klonny (February 7, 2007)
niveK82 (February 7, 2007)

"Wentz is the new Billy Corgan"

The Chicago Sun Times

Kursk (February 7, 2007)

that is the lamest album cover I have seen in a long time.

I give them a 2 because there are still a couple of songs from Take This To Your Grave that are still catchy as hell to me.

Anonymous (February 7, 2007)

whoever wrote this is about gay

onegirlarmy (February 7, 2007)

the question would be what innovative thing has this band done to be that highly praised um, some of their songs are catchy i admit that but theres a difference between being catchy and doing thins half-assed as some say, in my opinion for a record to be good it has to have great lyrics complemented by great music, as yes i agree that some people dont even pay attention to the lyrics, well im one of the persons that does, its better when a song says something worthwhile than when its just a hollow song with no real content behind them, my guess everyone who loves this band will bash the people that are honest about what they think of this record, its just another pop-punk album that apprently tryes to do too many things and fails miserably, i like a wide variety of music genre so its kind of stupid when a person says the reviewer was biased as i read listened to the record with and open mind, what this band finally tryes to do is only appeal to the mtv crowd nothing more than that, and only adds more fuel to the fire in the obsession wit beauty !

that may be the longest run-on sentence I've seen in my life. Good lord, my head hurt trying to read that.

Anonymous (February 7, 2007)

Fall Out Boy are great punk rockers
The band got down like a Magikist
The crowd roared like a lion
The punk rock show was whooping a giraffe's ass

ConsolationPrizefighter (February 7, 2007)

Do any other users see 10 really really good albums under "People who liked this also like..." and are really kind of disturbed by that?

Like I'm seeing Small Brown Bike's "Dead Reckoning", A3's "Goddammit", the latest 3 Larry Arms full lengths, The Decline, Keep Your Heart, Searching For A Former Clarity, Change Is A Sound, and Above The City.

That just is not computing for me.

SloaneDaley (February 7, 2007)

me and you sounds like maroon 5 and I like that.

yikes paul, Maroon 5 make the most bland boring music in the world and I'm talking in terms of pop music and I enjoy good pop music.

I'll admit Under The Cork Tree was fairly empty fun, this isn't generic it just isn't done very well. If you want good interesting pop music check out some of Of Montreal's work, Belle & Sebastian or hell even The Format. There just isn't any need for a record like this.

Anonymous (February 7, 2007)

Yea FuckYou OiOiOi... Blink was the shit... enema remains my all time favorite record. Obviously this record will be no where near it.

SayMySkirtIsSoShort (February 7, 2007)

ever since i heard "chicago is so two years ago" in 2003, i was hooked on take this to your grave but my passion for the band slowly declined from there. from under the cork tree had two or three good songs, but this...this is the metaphoric final nail in their coffin. congratulations fall out boy for contributing tho the already dying music scene. and a special thanks goes out to mr. wentz himself killing my best friend. this royal piece of shit doesn't deserve a score. fall out boy, you had me at the start but you have now fallen almost to the level of avenged sevenfold. eyes closed...ears open.

Anonymous (February 7, 2007)

Thanks Paul, very refreshing :)

P.S I'm the girl who colin thinks has no writing structure.
P.P.S I really am being sincere, I think punknews should officially post your review.

Anonymous (February 7, 2007)

Ok, I've listened to it a bunch of times.

awesome songs:
thriller
the take over, the breaks over
hum hallelujah

you can talk all the shit you want, anyone who is in a poppy punk band would kill to write the hooks in those songs and the lyrics to hum hallelujah are certainly above average.

good songs:
me and you
the afterlife of the party
track 8
track 10
track 11

me and you sounds like maroon 5 and I like that. afterlife of the party has a great hook. 8,10,11 sound like pop punk by numbers and are all solid, but nothing great.

shit songs
golden -lame piano ballad, completely uncessary, ruins the flow
thnks fr th mmrs-sounds like my chemical romance and way to obvious single writing
fame>infamy-filler
you're crashing-lame lyrics, very lame. kind of my chemical romance again
all this rining in my ears-great vocals on the chorus, but the overproduction ruins an already average song

so there you have a completely objective review. i don't care how many little girls and boys listen to them, how lame pete wentz is or anything else. i judge it just like I would a larry arms cd. speaking of which

awesome songs:
the devils taking names
opposable thumb
are you there god?
track 8

so catchy, and the social commentary in 'opposable thumb' is amazing. toby keiths horses? i love it. devils taking names has the best hook i've heard since 'thriller' by fall out boy. are you there god has a great guitar lead and i love the duel vocals. track 8 is a great chris song.

the good songs
cut it up-it kills live, on cd its good but kind of...i don't know

great lakes-the chorus seems off key to me? i know its the lawrence arms and they arent all about being on key but it just seems sloppy

jumping the shark-fun as hell

track 12-fun as hell agian, a bit short

key to the city-great verses, the chorus is a little repittive, but gets stuck in your head. almost as endearing as 'sugar we're going down' by fall out boy.

mediocre
old dog new tricks
track 9

these songs just seem filler to me. i've heard much better.

there you go.

Paul

SloaneDaley (February 7, 2007)

hey everybody! music isn't as objective as you'd like it to be.

weirdmusician (February 7, 2007)

the question would be what innovative thing has this band done to be that highly praised um, some of their songs are catchy i admit that but theres a difference between being catchy and doing thins half-assed as some say, in my opinion for a record to be good it has to have great lyrics complemented by great music, as yes i agree that some people dont even pay attention to the lyrics, well im one of the persons that does, its better when a song says something worthwhile than when its just a hollow song with no real content behind them, my guess everyone who loves this band will bash the people that are honest about what they think of this record, its just another pop-punk album that apprently tryes to do too many things and fails miserably, i like a wide variety of music genre so its kind of stupid when a person says the reviewer was biased as i read listened to the record with and open mind, what this band finally tryes to do is only appeal to the mtv crowd nothing more than that, and only adds more fuel to the fire in the obsession wit beauty !

Anonymous (February 7, 2007)

'i believe that i gave it a fair chance. i listened to it, didn't i? it seems like you're trying to include people who would write off this record without even listening to a second of it simply because it's fall out boy with the ones who did listen to it and didn't enjoy it, which is weird. you're creating a bond between arrogance based on opinion to an at least partial attempt at objectivity. then again, based on your writing structure and style, i'd assume you're an early level high school student so you're not ready for that sort of argument intellectually just yet'

I'd just like to respond to this quickly. The comment I posted was written in haste, a hurried response to a review and a reviewer that serverely pissed me off. In my opinion you did not give this album a fair chance...yes you listened to it but that is no guarantee that you heard anything besides your own preconcieved opinion. I dont think you read my comment properly at all...I said that I thought reviewing this album on this website was not fair to the artist because it would be judged on criteria it never claimed to live up to. Still...perhaps you truly did review this album fairly and without bias. In that case I disagree with your rating, and everything you had to say regarding Patrick's vocals. Perhaps Pete's lyrics could have been done better, but then as i said before fall out boy never claimed to write awe inspiring prose. In regards to my writing skills, thanks for the compliment. I got under your skin enough to warrant a cheap shot at my structure. I'm not sure what your problem was with my sentence construction and I really dont care. I wrote that comment simply hell bent providing an opinion besides 'fall out boy is the worst band ever'. Your retort showed a severe lack in understanding the ideas expressed in my comment, perhaps I did not make myself clear or perhaps your skills of argumentation and cognitive thought are not as adept as you percieve them to be.

colin (February 7, 2007)

revenge therapy, you seem to be telling me that so long as a record is pop music, it should be allowed to have shitty lyrics because that's the going standard these days, as if pandering to the lowest common denominator is acceptable. if you think that's right, then you should really get a job in marketing or a&r.

i believe that all art, no matter of intent or purpose, should be scrutinized, for only then can standards be set and reviews be applicable in any sense of the term. if we were going to say "well some music is okay to not care about the lyrics on," where does that stop? that new lifetime record sure is poppy...

as far as thinking a band needs to "change it up," you couldn't be farther from the truth. i think when a band tries to and fails they should be held accountable. i thought when blink "changed things up" they sucked ass and that self titled was a worthless disc. sort of like this.

and i didn't just tear this record down, i gave it a shot. if i wanted to simply tear it down, i would have posted the endless amount of lyrics that offer no sort of intellectual attempt at introspection beyond looking in a mirror, no sort of attempt at storytelling beyond fruitless bedroom ventures, and no sense of growth for a band that has a few records to their name.

Jimbojones (February 7, 2007)

It really isn't a good album. It sounds like they lost their direction of where they wanted to take the album. It's not even good pop

Badger_Legion (February 7, 2007)

This thread reminds me why I hate humanity.

Anonymous (February 7, 2007)

wow....this album suprised me, it actually has a lot of depth to it.
I can agree that Pete Wentz is a little too much in the spotlight but you have to atleast respect him for what he does. he has built an empire and this empire is sweeping the nation. This is the return of good emo where its more than just whining. Bands like taking back sunday who started the whole emo scene are becoming a little stale in the mainstream. Wow...i just can not believe how good this album is...its almost comparable to the first time i listened to The beatles. Just put this album on 5.1 dolby surround sound and you will become a believer

SuperRad (February 7, 2007)

"anyway, back to rocking out to the the newest NFG album, now THAT'S true punk."

I'm pretty sure you're serious. Anyway, I agree. A very solid album. True punk? Haha maybe.

almostpunkenough (February 7, 2007)

ah, thanks Brian... in that case i gotta give you a lot of props Colin, even though you shit on this thing, you knew it was gonna cause a shitstorm and you did it anyway... good for you.

anyway, back to rocking out to the the newest NFG album, now THAT'S true punk.

damnitsderek (February 6, 2007)

Doofus.

haha

R3venge_Therapy (February 6, 2007)

the reason pete wentz's lyrics need to be taken seriously in a review is because they are going to be taken seriously by those who listen to the record. there are going to be stupid kids who get this shit tattooed on their future love handles using daddy's credit card and a fake id.

And so the witty remarks keep spilling over...that's fine. You can keep spouting crap about kids getting tattoos on their lovehandles and shit but your "scathing" view on society isn't exactly original. The point being, generalizing about the lyrics by saying such things about the young fans has no real merit in the argument. No one who is old enough to get a dreaded Fall Out Boy tattoo is stupid enough to hang onto these lyrics like they're scripture (unless they're like those stupid Christians! Hah! Just thought I'd throw my own social commentary in there! p0nx!1!) but seriously, this band is not to be taken as anything more than the way they present themselves: a popular act of our time who will fade out and never leave any kind of mark on anyone in 10 years.

i'm just saying, while i don't take pete wentz that seriously, the lyrical content of an album is essential if the album is vocally driven.

What? No it's not. There are fucking millions of people that listen to music every day and don't give a flying fuck about 'lyrical content', they care about whether it's good enough to dance to, or just the melody in general. How the fuck do you think bands like Simple Plan peddle their bullshit to people? In mainstream music the equation goes something like this:

Melody/Catchy hook > subject matter.

as far as why i how i can like the first song but not the rest, it's because the rest of them sound like lame, re-hashed versions of the first. standard structure, little to no change in speed or length of songs... et cetera.

And yet you seem to enjoy Blink 182 quite a fuck of a lot. I like Blink, predominantly the early material before they went all Nightmare Before Christmas, but claiming that a band needs to "change it up" all the time in order to be good...that's just stupid.

In the end I have nothing against you, as this is the internet and we're all retarded for arguing opinions, but I really think this review was pointless because you did nothing but tear down a band that has already recieved enough backlash from this site. Anyone can write a biased review, but being objective shows true integrity.

cantsitstill (February 6, 2007)

once again, Colin reviews the album that everyone knows will get a really low score

well, usually that's Anchors' job.

cantsitstill (February 6, 2007)

why do bother reviewing this at all? are you going to review the daughtry record too? of course you'll give this record a crap review, but you know what? fob didn't record it with any intention of getting a "punk" following. they're a straight pop band, they've got no bones about it, and are doing quite well going in the area they're shooting for. they don't pretend to be part of any "punk" scene so why even pay attention?

yeah, that's why Colin pointed out that it's POP music.
and then that it's BAD pop music.
if there was any mistake, it was when Island sent this to PN.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

why do bother reviewing this at all? are you going to review the daughtry record too? of course you'll give this record a crap review, but you know what? fob didn't record it with any intention of getting a "punk" following. they're a straight pop band, they've got no bones about it, and are doing quite well going in the area they're shooting for. they don't pretend to be part of any "punk" scene so why even pay attention?

skaboom (February 6, 2007)

These comments are gold. I'm not sure what else to add. I've gleaned far more enjoyment out of reading you folks bitch than I got from listening to this record.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

I think it's amazingly overlooked on this board that the singer has a fantastic voice. Despite the music's blandness, that part of it really shines here.

-the black knight

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

fall out boy is the WORST band ever.i listend to the album and it was horiable.i couldnt stand it. fall out boy and panic at the disco suck.pete wentz is one of the worst bassists ever.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

Dude, Colin, go home already

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

revenge therapy:

the reason pete wentz's lyrics need to be taken seriously in a review is because they are going to be taken seriously by those who listen to the record. there are going to be stupid kids who get this shit tattooed on their future love handles using daddy's credit card and a fake id.

i'm just saying, while i don't take pete wentz that seriously, the lyrical content of an album is essential if the album is vocally driven.

as far as why i how i can like the first song but not the rest, it's because the rest of them sound like lame, re-hashed versions of the first. standard structure, little to no change in speed or length of songs... et cetera.

and any commentary about the "scene" - coming from the band or from the people in this comment section - is ridiculous. the scene pete wentz is speaking of is made up of mall cliques and fashion whore teenagers hell bent on showing their individuality through bad haircuts and "being misunderstood." it's not a scene, it's not an arms race, it's just a part of being a stupid kid with no sense of identity so they latch on to their idols. in this case, it's mascara wearing mr wentz who somehow feels like he should insult all the kids that look up to him simply because he doesn't want to admit he's some hollow, arrogant, egotistical doofus who can't write a decent full song (lyrically) to save his life.

-colin at work

ps - to staff comment, not staff. i choose to write these reviews because i enjoy the aftermath. no joke. i was going in to this record expecting to not like it, the first song proved me wrong and i got really excited about the rest. then it became a huge let down.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

it wouldnt be really fair for me to rate this album seeing as i've only heard a few songs. From what I've heard, i won't go as far to say the songs are terrible, but they're pretty much unlistenable for me. I'll admit that i really like take this to your grave and still listen to it alot, but it seems that after they signed to island ,fob just lost what made them good.

Jackisch (February 6, 2007)

I'd never heard Fallout Boy before, so I checked them out yesterday, and it seemed like average pop stuff, but nothing to get worked up about and feel actual hate.

Why do people care so much about them? It's obviously not good music, and just incase we were in doubt of that, we got a dude who sometimes likes shit like this confirm it for us.

Ollywood (February 6, 2007)

for some reason I assumed Colin was staff,
in that case he got my respect back and i appreciate the work he work he does

inagreendase (February 6, 2007)

Sorry Colin,
you just lost some of my respect
I don't think it's cool for a staff member to call the people within his community a "fucktard" regardless of circumstance


Except, Colin isn't staff.

AlmostPunkEnough: Colin volunteered this review entirely on his own.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

I am gonna go listen to lawrence arms now

freesandwich (February 6, 2007)

score is for the comment below me

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

"they are doing something pretty original with fusing R&B with Punk Rock"

Since when is Fallout boy the who?

I'm calling it, this thread is officially dead to any useful addition.

Let's see if we can lower the IQ on the lifetime thread, they've only gotten to "Lifetime- BORING". We can kick it up a notch. Maybe someone lose respect for an org staff member for saying 'fucktard' (incidentally, for those who love google news, 40% of all kids have seen internet porn unintentionally, so lets keep these threads as classy as the medium).

And there is no "scene". The "scene" is a fiction constructed by people who want to make money claiming/rejecting it. Grow up.

When you get to this level of business as a band, there is no "good/bad records" only people who are/aren't going to give you money.

wyzo

pwrf12 (February 6, 2007)

I think Ignite's "Darkest Days" had the best flow of any album that came out in 2006

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

pop/punk music:

descendents/ALL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fall Out Boy

kjb83 (February 6, 2007)

The post by damnitsderek is probably the smartest thing said about this review. It really is a lose-lose situation. I think Colin did an honest review of the album.

You can't have a totally unbiased mindset before you listen to the album. You're always going to have some sort of expectations. I'll admit it, before I listened to this, I was expecting it to be bad judgiing from my distaste for their previous releases.

almostpunkenough (February 6, 2007)

how'd you get stuck doing this review Colin?

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

"stuff stuff stuff stuff

Paul"

I agree wholeheartedly. I too like pop-punk for the fun aspect. This CD does not deliver like the previous discs.

damnitsderek (February 6, 2007)

You know, posting a review for an album like this is a double edged sword. If you post a review with any sort of praise whatsoever, you basically get roasted by every asshole on this site for "liking shitty music". However, if you trash it, you'll get rabble rabbled at in return for being biased, or for not listening to it, or for some other reason.

I think it's safe to say no matter how bad or good or pointless this album is, we all knew a review was coming, so what's the big fucking deal? You guys can bitch and moan about it all you want, but the review's not going anywhere all the same.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

"I thought this record was more of a statement rejecting the "scene" and what the media has portrayed them as. More of an honest record, this review sucks." This is exactly what i was thinking, it sucks to get suched biased bullshit from a reliable site, actually listen to the record.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

he lives in portland.

he makes art type shit.

fox82 (February 6, 2007)

Mr Anonymous, would you rather people only offer up one side of the story? This is not a Fall Out Boy fansite, so if you can't take criticism... weep and write another record as atrocious as this one.

Score is for overall effort of the band.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

score is for all of you bitching. u are pathetic. if u dont like the band, than who cares about your opinion about how shitty they are. grow up.

not-to-regret (February 6, 2007)

Some people see this review as pointless, but not me. I never listen to mainstream radio or watch MTV or Muchmusic so it gives me some kind of perspective as to what is popular vs "indie". 10 years ago one could review a Soundgarden album and it may have received the same flak, but probably not, it's a good example of how the mainstream alt-rock/punk scene has gone to shit. But on the other hand, mainstream has produced many great albums, that can be fun, accessible, danceable or whatever and still maintain artistic intergrity. Hell, most of my top 20 from 2006 is mainstream.

20 - Bad Astronaut - Tweleve Small Steps, One Giant Dissapointment
19 - Pearl Jam – Pearl Jam
18 - The Slackers - Peculiar
17 - The Raconteurs - Broken Boy Soldiers
16 - Tool - 10,000 Days
15 - The Evens - Get Even
14 - Nick Oliveri/Mondo Generator- Dead Planet: Sonic Slow Motion Trails (2xLP)
13 - Deftones - Saturday Night Wrist
12 - Rx Bandits - And The Battle Begun
11 - Beck - The Information
10 - ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead - So Divided
09 - Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan - Ballad of the Broken Seas
08 - The Strokes - First Impressions of Earth
07 - Eagles of Death Metal - Death By Sexy
06 - Pink Mountaintops - Axis of Evol
05 - The Bronx – The Bronx (2006)
04 - Thom Yorke - The Eraser
03 - Gnarls Barkley - St. Elsewhere
02 - TV On The Radio – Return to Cookie Mountain
01 - The Deadly Snakes - Porcella or: A Bird In The Hand Is Worthless (2xLP)

Ollywood (February 6, 2007)

"to be honest, i would really enjoy an album like this to be really good one of these days, so i can give it a good score just to watch all you fucktards bitch and moan and have pointless debates, instead of falling in line with the choir of how wasteful pop music is. there are gems out there, this just is not one of them. sorry if i pissed you off by taking the "easy way" and giving a record the score it deserves."

Sorry Colin,
you just lost some of my respect
I don't think it's cool for a staff member to call the people within his community a "fucktard" regardless of circumstance, although i do see where you are coming from.

Ollywood (February 6, 2007)

"to be honest, i would really enjoy an album like this to be really good one of these days, so i can give it a good score just to watch all you fucktards bitch and moan and have pointless debates, instead of falling in line with the choir of how wasteful pop music is. there are gems out there, this just is not one of them. sorry if i pissed you off by taking the "easy way" and giving a record the score it deserves."

Sorry Colin,
you just lost some of my respect
I don't think it's cool for a staff member to call the people within his community a "fucktard" regardless of circumstance, although i do see where you are coming from.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

Race Traitor ruled.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

"AHAHAHAHAHAAH fall out boy is awesome yay.... fall out boy rocks my pants woopie yay they are sooo cooll
SHUT THE FUCK UP! these guys sing about girls and they are gay, okay! i bet they had to suck cock for sum intruments hahaha oh gosh do they suck. fuck a doodle doo this band is... gay1 nothing new i give them 3 albums and then the ass gets old and they break up"

according to this guy this band has one more record before falling out.

Cos (February 6, 2007)

(crawling out from the rock I was living under)

I had no idea Pete Wentz wasn't the singer. Seriously. Dude is in front of all the promo shots, interviews, name-dropped with every mention of the band... what else was I to think? This is just shocking. SHOCKING, I tell you.

ilikepunkrock (February 6, 2007)

I agree with revenge therapy, there is no way Colin listened to this album going in thinking it would be good.

R3venge_Therapy (February 6, 2007)

Hey, guess what? I completely disagree with this review. I never, in the history of time, thought I'd ever stick up for Fall Out Boy, but I think this review is bullshit. It seems as though you went into this thinking "Oh, this is going to blow" and then listened to it once, read the lyrics and picked the damn thing apart.

Firstly, why the hell are you taking their lyrics seriously? Please, elaborate on why anyone should take anything Pete Wentz wrote seriously. It's pretty clear to me that this record was not written as a way of expressing anything personal. They write music for fun! It's not any deeper than that. You can see by the ridiculous song titles that they aren't writing music to be "deep" or connect with their listeners emotionally. Anyone who has an emotional attatchment to a FOB song needs to seek psychiatric help.

Secondly, I'm entirely baffled as to why you claim to love the first song but not the rest of the album. It's just like almost all of the other songs, and in many cases, I don't think it's even as solid as more than a few other tracks. The songwriting is varied and the melodies are well-written, unlike on their previous albums which were just plain annoying. The extra instruments are surprisingly well-incorporated. What more do you want?

This is pop music. I'm not denying it, because that's just what it is. Pop music is generally there just to entertain, and rarely to be deep or have anything more than face value. You read far too much into this, and then delivered the bullshit review everyone expected to hear from this site. I'm not saying you should like it, because music is subjective, but why claim that it's garbage when it's actually pretty damn well-written from a musical standpoint? I think it should be clear even to people who hate it.

Score is for the album.

PS. When the FUCK did it matter that you can't understand the singer's voice? You like punk? Half the punk bands on this site that are heralded as the next coming of Jesus fucking Christ don't have vocalists that are easy to understand.

ilikepunkrock (February 6, 2007)

Someones user name is INDIE is BETTER THAN PUNK..

that just isn't true

Ianw (February 6, 2007)

best stoner album of 2007.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

I think you are confusing this with The new Witch album.

punkinohio (February 6, 2007)

I thought this record was more of a statement rejecting the "scene" and what the media has portrayed them as. More of an honest record, this review sucks.

kjb83 (February 6, 2007)

I'm confused as to why the reveiwer, Colin, is getting so much shit and why so many people are sticking up for fall out boy. This is very puzzling to me.

And the person below me, complimenting Pete Wentz's singing/screaming voice? Are you serious? I hope you're kidding. Pete Wentz is probably one of the least talented musicians in music today. Have you heard him try to sing or scream live? He's horrible. All of his vocals are so ridiculously overproduced.

baseball (February 6, 2007)

I think pete wentz has a really good screaming voice on the new record. He should sing (scream) more. I dont understand why so many people are hating on them because they are doing something pretty original with fusing R&B with Punk Rock. You guys should suck on a bag of dicks! just light up an L and listen to this album with the lights off....best stoner album of 2007.

i thought his screaming sounded forced and incredibly awful

and if i had to listen that guy's voice (not Wentz) while i was stoned, i'd probably want to kill myself....this is the exact opposite of 'best stoner alubm of 2007'

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

I think pete wentz has a really good screaming voice on the new record. He should sing (scream) more. I dont understand why so many people are hating on them because they are doing something pretty original with fusing R&B with Punk Rock. You guys should suck on a bag of dicks! just light up an L and listen to this album with the lights off....best stoner album of 2007.

-The future of Music 101

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

your metaphor about fall out boy and brand new as types or girls is troubling.

beand new's latest record is not selfish at all.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

stick a fondu fork in my eye

colin (February 6, 2007)

millisecpwned on this one, but i'm glad it was brought up;

didn't you give the latest brand new album a good rating? THAT was "the most vain, self-indulgent trash I have heard in such a long time"

there's a good argument here. both brand new and fall out boy are rock bands. however, i think these two albums show the extreme ends of approaching music as an art form and approaching it as a bank account. fall out boy continued to work with a formula (musically) that was making them money, while discussing topics superfluously and without meaning or reason beyond it will help kids with their superiority conflicts deal with their myspace top 8 dramatics.

brand new, meanwhile, wrote an incredibly introspective record that walked the line between self-deprecation and a humble yet appropriate realization that they are, in fact, an incredibly talented band that has something substantial to say. is this to say that substance comes in the form of social discourse? no, their record was fairly selfish as well. but when it comes down to it they delivered an actual piece of art that can be listened to and discussed when it comes to content and conflict, whereas fall out boy recorded a piece of plastic entertainment.

to put it into language fall out boy fans can understand, brand new's record is sort of like a great girlfriend that can break your heart. fall out boy's is like a shitty one night stand while wearing beer goggles and having to spend the next month of your life with your friends making fun of you for it.

colin (February 6, 2007)

while responding to anonymity isn't my deal much, there's some good debate going around.

does colin only review shitty bands because this is actually what he listens to? he just gives them all low ratings seeking the approval of everyone on this website? it's getting annoying.

i'm going to refer this one to paul's comment about pop punk. i mean, i know i've reviewed some shitty albums, but my taste is probably far different than that of most of the reviewers on this site. i don't really dig "real" punk or hardcore. i grew up on pop punk, i love pop punk, and this is bad pop that was formerly pop punk. i don't need anyone's approval, i write reviews because i enjoy cultural commentary and i love writing about the different aspects thereof. if i wanted approval from this website, i'd actually care about rancid.

the reviewer needs to take some of his own advice and pull his head out of his ass. pete wentz is being vain? he pal, you just gave a pretty solid pop record a mediocre score to maintain your "cred" you're reviewing on a fucking message board. how about you get off your high horse?

listen, i don't follow pete wentz's life. i mean, i have no clue whether or not he's vain on any sort of regular basis. i know he's the dude in the band the girls love, but outside of their music, i know little to nothing about fall out boy. again, credibility is for the birds on the internet.

You know, I cant tell which is worse, the fact that not one person who visits this website gave this album a fair chance

i believe that i gave it a fair chance. i listened to it, didn't i? it seems like you're trying to include people who would write off this record without even listening to a second of it simply because it's fall out boy with the ones who did listen to it and didn't enjoy it, which is weird. you're creating a bond between arrogance based on opinion to an at least partial attempt at objectivity. then again, based on your writing structure and style, i'd assume you're an early level high school student so you're not ready for that sort of argument intellectually just yet.

also, i'm not exactly sure why some get so abrasive about reviews. this is a based-upon-submission site. you're all more than welcome to submit your own ideas as to why this album is a success or failure. just because i do, it seems you take that as a recourse to making your opinion heard, instead of doing any actual work and trying to write a coherent, objective review on your own.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

"This is the most vain, self-indulgent trash I have heard in such a long time"

didn't you give the latest brand new album a good rating? THAT was "the most vain, self-indulgent trash I have heard in such a long time"

dusticles (February 6, 2007)

i usually dont agree with you colin, but you're dead on. not only did you review the album fairly, but you pointed out the huge flaws that most people will not see.

score is for the review

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

I liked fall out boy for about 4 years - until this record came out. The review is accurate in respect to how I feel about this record.

"Take this to your grave" was a great album, "cork tree" was good but had a few crap songs in there and this record is just like all the crap from cork tree but worse.

a band doesn't need to scream or yell - but they do need to write decent songs.

baseball (February 6, 2007)

seeing as how the only FOB i've heard is the videos that come on while i'm at the gym i decided to give the AOL stream of this a shot....EVERY 20 seconds there's this voice that comes on and says "new album Infinity on High available February 6th", not just the first track but the whole thing, now that's ridiculous

anyway, after some listening i think this review is pretty accurate....this is just badly executed pop music, it sounds like this band could write some decent pop songs but they failed horribly, this is just obnoxious to listen to

Hasheesh (February 6, 2007)

Nonetheless, while I respectfully disagree with your opinion of the album, this is a very colorful review. I enjoy it, especially the line about the Sidekick.

Hasheesh (February 6, 2007)

I just bought this album, alongside the new Lifetime.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

the reviewer needs to take some of his own advice and pull his head out of his ass. pete wentz is being vain? he pal, you just gave a pretty solid pop record a mediocre score to maintain your "cred" you're reviewing on a fucking message board. how about you get off your high horse?

freesandwich (February 6, 2007)

I can't wait till the day when everybody hates the band...just like limp bizkit

kjb83 (February 6, 2007)

"anyone who doesnt have the raspy none more black or lawrence arms voice is labelled crap and you know, not EVERYTHING has to have screaming in it. I think it was plain retarded to try and apply standards to a pop punk album that it can never live up to, its FALL OUT BOY, yes its poppy, with guitars and Patricks smooth smooth voice. I'm going to ask nicely now, get over it! "

in response to this comment, the lawrence arms and none more black don't have screaming in it....i don't know what you're talking about. fall out boy has more "screaming" in it than bands like nmb or tla. Personally, I don't have a problem with stuff that's poppy. But there's GOOD pop music and BAD pop music. Fall out boy is BAD pop music. Their lyrics suck, their music is predictable (more so than other pop-punk bands), and they are extremely terrible live. plus, the fact that pete wentz comes off as the biggest asshole ever doesn't really help their case.
- kevin

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

does colin only review shitty bands because this is actually what he listens to? he just gives them all low ratings seeking the approval of everyone on this website? it's getting annoying.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

score is for Simpsons movie opening in July.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

i mean less than 2 years after their last album, not their debut.

I got 'take this to your grave' in december 2003 when they were on tour with LTJ and no one knew who they were. I thought it was a classic pop punk cd, if not a bit dirivative (thats never bothered me in this genre though, if its direivitive but done well I could give a shit)

Paul

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

I'll come clean, I'm a huge fan of pop punk and I'm 26. I got dude ranch when I was 17, dookie when I was 14 and life in general around 18. I now have 600 some pop punk songs in my itunes. I love the genre, I don't care if 90% of the songs are about chicks, I don't care. Its catchy, its fun. I love the first 2 fall out boy records.

This one though...not so much. Its overproduced big time. strings, chimes, bells, synth, choirs, handclaps, etc. very ill fitted for a pop punk album. and its just not as catchy.

the first 2 songs kick ass. the single is annoying. the middle part of the album is mediocre (tracks 6-9). The end is forgettable (whereas I thought their last album ended on arguably the best song on the disc).

very average, but with the pressure of being huge and the urge to crank out a 3rd album less than 2 years after their debut, I'm not surprised. I've heard worse.

Paul

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

Good review. I did hear the album (it was available for free on bittorrent) and it's just as worthless as colin makes it out to be, you can feel the monstrous ego of Pete W sucking all credibility/creativity out of this band.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

You know, I cant tell which is worse, the fact that not one person who visits this website gave this album a fair chance, or that you actually reviewed this album here, where thousands of people who wouldnt touch the pop punk genre with a barge pole could rip it to shreds. Thats like throwing Paris Hilton into a moshpit at a Metallica show...very predictable. I've seen the reviews colin writes, anyone who doesnt have the raspy none more black or lawrence arms voice is labelled crap and you know, not EVERYTHING has to have screaming in it. I think it was plain retarded to try and apply standards to a pop punk album that it can never live up to, its FALL OUT BOY, yes its poppy, with guitars and Patricks smooth smooth voice. I'm going to ask nicely now, get over it! They didn't write this album for asses who dont believe its a moshpit until someones bleeding from the head from a flying spinning kick, they wrote it for people who like a catchy song, something to dance to that doesnt have a driving base going through the entire thing. They wrote it for people who enjoy guitar, easy pop punk guitar that in years to come will reminds them of the 11th grade. Why you reviewed this album is lost on me. I am an old school fall out boy fan, take this to your grave was awesome. I also happen to love none more black, the lawrence arms and probably a crap more bands that most of the people who trashed this album like too. All I'm saying is...review it for what it is and what it claims to be, fall out boy never said they were a hardcore band trying to write lyrics that'll change the world.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

If he gave it a higher score, I wouldn't want to listen to it. But, after hating that single soooooo much, I have a morbid curiosity about the rest of the record.
That being said, I kinda liked the singles of the last record; not enough to buy it, but still. The new single is among the worst things being played on the radio today.

superskabro (February 6, 2007)

where is your boy tonight? I hope he is a gentleman. SKA HA HA HAHAH A HAHAHA HAHA! My roomate and I would listen to that song on repeat and laugh ourselves drunk. Fall Out Boy doesn't know it, but they're writing the same joke pop jams that Ace of Bace and La Bauche wrote 10 years ago.

SuperRad (February 6, 2007)

...ugh. I'm sick of this band, I'm sick of hating this band, and I'm sick of this review.

Godfather (February 6, 2007)

terrible album, good review

ben_conoley (February 6, 2007)

My review would have simply been:

Fall Out Boy's new album Infinity on High is like fake tits.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

all these songs sound the same and fob seem to not be sure of just what direction, if any they wanted to go-oldpunker-

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

Why do we need a review? I thought that the 22,354,765 people the world over that liked Fallout By downloaded the album when it leaked.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

wyzo, trying to read your post gave me a headache. Try sounding more coherent next time.

mcgregor107 (February 6, 2007)

awful..
I heard that single on the radio the other day.. just awful.

wyzo (February 6, 2007)

"the 'R&B'-influenced single, "This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race,""

it takes so little these days to claim an influence.......its a straight pop song, R and B just isn't there but who even cares anymore.

I also take issue with the "Iowa" clip in their new video. Does every band not get the reason 5 middle school kids and the 16 year old goth chick you end up setting up tour van handjobs with on myspace are th eonly people showing up to your gig is your band is horrible?

As someone from des moines, if you dont live here, try to keep the cliches to your songs.

wyzo

AphasiacIIC (February 6, 2007)

score is for both the album and the reviewer.. hes so full of it

etwiels88 (February 6, 2007)

This album is great.

TheMarc (February 6, 2007)

All right, I'll say it: this isn't that bad.

ConsolationPrizefighter (February 6, 2007)

Long Titles Aren't Cool Anymore Because The Rest Of You Fuckers Are No Good At Them

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

Saying pop music isn't supposed to be innovative alone sums up the douchebag musical mentality that this website spews.

That said, all my favorite bands in the world are the bands that have recently been dubbed "orgcore", so I'm in part very much one of you.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

once again, Colin reviews the album that everyone knows will get a really low score

1 1/2 stars? really, Colin? wow, how daring of you! especially on this website!
before i even clicked on the FOB review i knew who was gonna review it. yes, this is a shitty album - especially that single - but when the majority of your reviews are of shitty albums, one has to wonder if you get some kind of enjoyment out of handing out low scores


1. i gave the new dashboard confessional a 6/10.
2. i really do like the first song on this record.
3. the rest is pretty much trash.
4. i enjoy reviewing albums that pose a challenge to review. believe it or not, reviewing an album people "expect" to get trashed is hard. note how i did not play the punx card, nor did i even claim this to be pop punk, or how all mainstream music is garbage, or anything that i would probably expect a lot of "real punk" kids to write about.

no, this is pop music but it's unfortunately self-absorbed, and vanity projects by multimillionaires don't impress me much. of course on this website this record would get trashed by a lot of the "real punk" kids because they give two shits about punk rock, whereas i'm not really punk or care about what other people think about punk at all. i was simply vocalizing how there are good and bad ways to approach pop music, and i think this record missed the mark.

to be honest, i would really enjoy an album like this to be really good one of these days, so i can give it a good score just to watch all you fucktards bitch and moan and have pointless debates, instead of falling in line with the choir of how wasteful pop music is. there are gems out there, this just is not one of them. sorry if i pissed you off by taking the "easy way" and giving a record the score it deserves.

-colin at work.

indie_is_better_than_punk (February 6, 2007)

well-articulated review. the whole thing really nails down exactly what is wrong with fall out boy. i really like the last line.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

Not on Fall Out Boy's side, but damn this statement sounds dumb

"fallout boy is garbage, the songs are too long and too repetitive. its fucking boring. good review (even though i haven't heard the album)."

Badger_Legion (February 6, 2007)

Oh, and fuck that creepy-ass cover too.

fallingupwards84 (February 6, 2007)

once again, Colin reviews the album that everyone knows will get a really low score

1 1/2 stars? really, Colin? wow, how daring of you! especially on this website!
before i even clicked on the FOB review i knew who was gonna review it. yes, this is a shitty album - especially that single - but when the majority of your reviews are of shitty albums, one has to wonder if you get some kind of enjoyment out of handing out low scores

Badger_Legion (February 6, 2007)

Tried listening to it... couldn't get past song 2.

Fuck mainstream, generic, whiny pop-rock.

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

My review of the last Hilary Duff album was more pertinent to the "punk rock scene."

And I bet a lot of people would have preferred to read it instead.

Sidenote: I feel really bad for the rest of this band for having to put up with Pete Wentz's tired antics.

Rocktopus (February 6, 2007)

Panic? At the Dickshow...

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

that first single from this album is soooooooooooooo bad. i mean seriously horrible. at least the last album the singles were good in terms of being catchy and semi-fun i guess. but that arms race song blows goat. i have proof.

ryanrockwell (February 6, 2007)

I like it!

strangenotes (February 6, 2007)

Why did they use a nursery rhyme cover?

Seriously, though, purge this fucking shit from the shitsystem this site has already become. Don't review this trite shit, don't mention it. Who the fuck cares about the reader database? Fuck this shit.

Dante3000 (February 6, 2007)

The low score only ensures this album will sell 800 trillion copies.
-Dante

ryanbolger (February 6, 2007)

the hold steady called.

they want their font back.

damnitsderek (February 6, 2007)

Score is for the use of your time when you could have been reviewing something halfway decent.

BrendanKelly (February 6, 2007)

great job.

FuckYouOiOiOi (February 6, 2007)

"nobody likes you when your 23". enema was a damn good record. fallout boy is garbage, the songs are too long and too repetitive. its fucking boring. good review (even though i haven't heard the album).

"do you want to know where the bullshit goes? it goes down the sewer to be disposed!"

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

if colin comes right out and says this is pop music, why the FUCK is there a story about them every day on here?

Anonymous (February 6, 2007)

album of the year!!! jk jk

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