Posted by muktar on 2008-05-07 20:43:02
My Score:

the fact that anyone could like this is depressing. shit band, and a review thats almost as bad. but still a shti band. and anyone who likes them must be retarded.

I love how all the people who disagree with the review put their review forward so well with an excellent grasp of English and a well developed argument.

But seriously - to the people bitching about the review - if you're going to whine, at least make sense.. I couldn't understand what the hell half of these fashioncore kids are trying to say - not that they mispelled words, it just doesn't make sense..

Ha! Love you review. Totally true. I hate how everyone loves them. I really dont see why. They sound like everything else... O whoops, I thought I was commenting on Fall Out Boy.. or was it Panic? O, its a girl singing.. I get it!

The album was overall poor in my opinion.Their first release held water,and as probably one of few out of this orgy of doom that enjoyed Paramore's first album and saw them live supporting it, they did well, and the band was nice overall.

I feel like the new one has drifted more towards selling, but if you payed any attention you'd know Paramore signed a major "360" deal, which basically gives the label rights over marketing and music and all sorts of things. The new album isn't as well written, the songs feel empty to me, and honestly I feel the band performed better on a small stage with 20 kids than with the 1000 I saw at last Warped.

That being said they hardly deserve the crap this board is bringing, and the review if well intended kinda fell flat.

Posted by jy on 2007-11-23 19:14:33
My Score:

paramores album riot is awesome. there music rocks.

This album rocks! It's probably the best album I own.

paramore is the bast band and this cd reates to my whole like at this time and i sometimes dont know what i would do without the cd to help[ me deal with the hard good sad happy ime i love pararmore and glad it around

Wow the most stupidest review ever !!! paramore kiks ass their awsome!! album rocks...

i prefer reviews over fan-fiction

"Look at me! I'm retarted!"

You must be. Even a child can spell "retarded".

I know it's a low blow, but you kind of asked for it.

"Score is for Coldwaffles trying to make an impression on the punknews community."

If I wanted to do such, I wouldn't have written positive reviews for Anberlin, Silverstein, or Young Love, really. Instead, I'd have written a review on the Chuck Ragan Blueprints, or something.

Look at me! I'm retarted!

Seriously, you guys. Can't we all just get along?
Didn't think so.

You guys are total douches. Thanks.

"There's more out there than just orgcore guys. Ugh."

Yes. There is. But I don't like your assumption that the only reason people would dislike this is that they've pigeonholed their tastes to "org-core", and that, should they open up to new things, they would, of course, like this steaming pile.

There's a lot more out there. There's great alt-country, like Whiskeytown. Great electronic stuff like The Faint and The Postal Service. Classic rock, like The Who. Pop, like The Lemonheads. I could go on. Just because people don't like this band, doesn't mean they're not open-minded. Correlation does not equal causation. Some of them actually have taste.

There's more out there than just orgcore guys. Ugh.

where is the review?

I downloaded this CD off a torrent and I haven't listened to all the songs yet. I really like "Misery Business" and "That's What You Get" a lot though. Of the bands I saw live at Warped Tour, Paramore was one of my favorites.

pretty much sounds like kelly clarkson to me

Told ya so.

- Dude who initially started the Scott shit storm. Honestly though, the rest of you guys forget to mention how fat this dude is, and the magazine that he works for.

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 23, 2007 at 6:10 PM (EDT)
My Score:

Scott is NOT stoked!

Score is for how stoked Scott is.

Hey Scott-
Here's an idea, don't bash others for being unprofessional when you have a longstanding history of it yourself.
Things that spring to mind:
1) OneLineDrawing review
2) Most news stories you ever posted.
3) Accusing Brendan Kelly of being a rapist.
4) Trying to get on underage girls at shows in Cleveland.
5) In general being a bastard.

Add his Jello Biafra unfounded claims.

"You can be professional and still slam records. This review is just petty and throws around completely unfounded accusations. It makes Punknews look bad and amateurish.

I would have much rather seen Brian or Aubin tackle this, as at least they review things with minimal bias and point out positives and negatives.

There's more out there than orgcore, people. You don't have to like it, but you should realize that other people do.

-Scott"

funny, because those are exactly the criticisms i would have made about your onelinedrawing review.

This review looks like it was written by a goth kid who attended my old high school.

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 23, 2007 at 3:51 PM (EDT)
My Score:

Score is for Coldwaffles trying to make an impression on the punknews community.

Hey Scott-
Here's an idea, don't bash others for being unprofessional when you have a longstanding history of it yourself.
Things that spring to mind:
1) OneLineDrawing review
2) Most news stories you ever posted.
3) Accusing Brendan Kelly of being a rapist.
4) Trying to get on underage girls at shows in Cleveland.
5) In general being a bastard.

This band isn't very good.

However, they deserve an actual review.

If this can pass a a album review, please tell me what excludes a review from being posted?

Come on punknews...maintain at least some sort of credibility. I'm not trying to stick up for Paramore - I don't like their music and probably will never listen to an album of theirs straight through - but they deserve a semi-serious review from a less biased reviewer. I understand that it's really cool to bash and hate bands that everyone else hates, but this is the best review you guys can put up there?

It's a crime when bands like this are more popular than Fifth Hour Hero were, before they broke up.

Posted by coldwaffles on 2007-07-23 02:25:50
My Score:

I say good on ya--although I think the idea was kinda lifted from the Pitchfork review of Louis XIV. Oh well--there's nothing new under the sun."

I don't read Pitchfork. Even when I want to, the site is so shitty it won't load half the time.

Even so, this is a pretty classic review style, I've seen similar reviews in more than just music mediums. It wasn't a really original concept, to be honest, but it wasn't intended to be. It's how I felt about this record., and how I felt I should express such feelings regarding this record. I'm not trying to impress, who do I have to impress here?

Score is for Pitchforkmedia's loading capacity.

Anyone think the cover rips No doubt Rock Steady?

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 23, 2007 at 1:49 AM (EDT)
My Score:

I thought the review was alright. How many different ways can you write a review of a record? Did you really want to read about their influences? Did you want to know what tracks were "killer?" You're being here pretty much guarantees you and all your beardo friends will hate this record...at least this way you got to think about the review itself instead of the album. I say good on ya--although I think the idea was kinda lifted from the Pitchfork review of Louis XIV. Oh well--there's nothing new under the sun.

Hey champ, I know this CD is shit (although I'm about 1,000 percent sure they'll be on an AP cover in the next year assuming they haven't already).

I was just pointing out the Scott calling the kettle fat. Yes I think I'm clever.

- the voice of reason

but yeah, whatever, people really like you around here.

"- anonymous, yet still somehow the voice of the majority"

You sure about that, champ? You might want to re-read all the comments...

-Scott

Id bang the lead singer.

I hate this band with a passion but this review's smug humor annoyed the shit out of me. Leave the trying-to-be-clever bad metaphors to pitchfork.

This band is a lame christian pop group, on a formerly independent record label now owned by Warner Brothers, there is nothing remotely "punk" about Paramore, their "fans", or any of the morons who eat this shit up along side Ashlee Simpson or 50 Cent! If you can find a way to validate this band you should go to the nearest mall and practice self-immolation.

"A perfectly valid criticism, and you would have been much better off actually writing a critical piece based off that -- not some juvenile joke review. That's all I'm sayin'.

And I wasn't directing my orgcore comment specifically at you, it's more at the whole site (or at least the majority of its registered users).

Someone asked below what I'd give this record -- I already wrote below that it has three very strong songs but that's it. I'd give it 2.5 stars.

-Scott"

Right, because your boxcar racer review was like OMG so funny. Just when I think you couldn't be any more a fat piece of shitty music peddling shit, you go and outdo yourself.

- anonymous, yet still somehow the voice of the majority

UMM, is this a review of an album or some pathetic attempt at witty humor? Heres a tip, if all the sentences in your review begin and end with quotation marks, you might want to start over again.

"I don't like the band, but it could have at least gotten a review based on the actual tracks on the album. After all, isn't that what reviews are for? It isn't really the place to create some little scenario that's got nothing to do with the actual tracks. Not really helping someone who wants actual insight into the album."

Actually, it did describe the tracks. You don't need a track by track review with names to do that.

Jesus fuck, you guys. If you don't like this review, listen to the album, write up your own fucking review and submit it yourself. You're allowed to do that here, you know.

I don't like the band, but it could have at least gotten a review based on the actual tracks on the album. After all, isn't that what reviews are for? It isn't really the place to create some little scenario that's got nothing to do with the actual tracks. Not really helping someone who wants actual insight into the album.

this is not a review...you didnt even fucking review the album, you just made fun of paramore.

there is only good and bad music fuck a genre discussion. I listen to plenty of music that isn't punk or whatever but this stuff is just garbage.

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 22, 2007 at 11:37 AM (EDT)
My Score:

There's more out there than orgcore, people. You don't have to like it, but you should realize that other people do.

-Scott

Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's any good, though.

This band deserved this review.

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 22, 2007 at 11:30 AM (EDT)
My Score:

Score is for the review.

Posted by maverick on 2007-07-22 09:59:10
My Score:

"my fault with this record is that it is a vocal pop record disguising itself as a "punk" record. it becomes really trite in that effort, and it comes off as fake, less of a record, more of a business move. the record itself is a solid, if really predictable pop record, but in respect to this site, i reviewed it as the punk record it wants to be."

A perfectly valid criticism, and you would have been much better off actually writing a critical piece based off that -- not some juvenile joke review. That's all I'm sayin'.

And I wasn't directing my orgcore comment specifically at you, it's more at the whole site (or at least the majority of its registered users).

Someone asked below what I'd give this record -- I already wrote below that it has three very strong songs but that's it. I'd give it 2.5 stars.

-Scott

This is the worst review I've ever read on this site, and that's saying ALOT.

I'm not Paramore's biggest fan but a lot of your claims are totally unfounded. Did it occur to the reviewer that maybe they wanted to craft a poppy album because that's the music they want to make? I'm pretty sure if they wanted to totally sell-out to the labels they would've written a way poppier and accessible record than what they put out with Riot.

With all that said, this is definitely an album that's not in my tastes. I do like poppier bands like Piebald and the sort, but I'm just not a fan of some of the newer bands. I admire what they try to do with taking a sound and trying to make it theirs, but this record wasn't the one to do that.

You shouldn't even bother to review anything anymore or even try to justify this abomination of a review that you spewed on to our computer screens.

I'm not a fan of this band, but this review is really fucking badly written.

The only point I can agree with is that the chick will forever overshadow the rest of the band in recognition, everyone will be like "there goes that chick from paramore, i'd totally smash her box in" and the rest of the band probably wouldn't even get recognised enough to have their noodles slurped by underage sluts in the tour bus.

"There's more out there than orgcore, people. You don't have to like it, but you should realize that other people do."

if this is a shot at me, i don't think anberlin, head automatica, punchline, silverstein, or young love (which you totally trashed in the comments, without reason...) are "orgcore." but that's okay.

my fault with this record is that it is a vocal pop record disguising itself as a "punk" record. it becomes really trite in that effort, and it comes off as fake, less of a record, more of a business move. the record itself is a solid, if really predictable pop record, but in respect to this site, i reviewed it as the punk record it wants to be.

honestly, i was personally amazed this review made it up my self. it's not particularly well crafted, but i believe i did make my point. to claim my review has weak writing is one thing, but really, i don't think you can bash me on my position here.

also, sorry im a little drunk. i forgot to mention that reviews and articles on here are and forever have been user submitted. therefore they represent different facets of what the community around here is about. maybe no one else submitted a review for this because no one that cares about submitting reviews cares about this band.

scott, just because there's more out there than "orgcore" doesn't mean that every review on here only gives praise to "orgcore" and completely disregards anything else. i saw a positive review for 108 on here. and they are soooooo not "orgcore". shitty music is shitty music, thus shitty music gets shitty scores. what would you have rated this? and please let any tiny bit of credibility you had get thrown out the window for good.

"I'm pretty embarrassed that a place as respected as Punknews would run a review this blatantly biased and hateful, though. Is professionalism too much to ask?"

Professionalism in what way? Can't someone just slam a shitty band? Or should everything get 3 and a half stars like the Rolling Stone?

yeeesh. Reviews like this keep this place interesting.

You can be professional and still slam records. This review is just petty and throws around completely unfounded accusations. It makes Punknews look bad and amateurish.

I would have much rather seen Brian or Aubin tackle this, as at least they review things with minimal bias and point out positives and negatives.

There's more out there than orgcore, people. You don't have to like it, but you should realize that other people do.

-Scott

I think "music" like this is just a vehicle to enable these people to be seen hanging out with the weapons from good charlotte and fawl owt boi.

i read this 3 times before i realized it said "come on TO hailey everynight at warped tour" i originally just thought it said "..come on.." that would have been funnier, and also a really true fact because i totally came on her in pittsburgh hahaha

The review wasn't very well articulated but I believe made a valid point of the state that labels such as FUELED BY RAMEN and others which started with an indie/punk aesthetic and philosophy were swayed by dollar signs and the concept of releasing interesting art took back seat to pop-culture and maximizing profits. But let it be realized that FBR is not alone. There is a multitude of labels from TOOTH AND NAIL, VICTORY, etc... that have decided to ride down the wave of dollar signs and easy sells. Now, put yourself in their shoes, MAYBE you would do it too? Who is to say. But it is an interesting turn of events nevertheless and eventually a shift needs to occur where one is to question the motives of the marketers and try and cut through the noise to find the true inspired "art". Which then again, I can question myself and say "what is art? doesn't placing a word like VALID on art create elitism"? It does... but in the end one needs to just refocus and reclaim what PUNK is... it is not a genre of music, but more of an ethic and way of life... a refusal of accepting overly marketed things and focusing on community and a true economic model that does not need to depend on any multi-national affiliation. PUNK started as a genre but then quickly became two things - an ethics-related movement with many sub-movements.. and a word for marketing rebellion. Pick you side and follow with pride. - Demosthenes

Exuse the typos in the comment below.

I was really surprised by how well they played at Warped. Seriously, they put were one the tightest bands that played.

"I'm pretty embarrassed that a place as respected as Punknews would run a review this blatantly biased and hateful, though. Is professionalism too much to ask?"

Professionalism in what way? Can't someone just slam a shitty band? Or should everything get 3 and a half stars like the Rolling Stone?

yeeesh. Reviews like this keep this place interesting.

Terrible music.
Terrible band.
Terrible review.

this is everything that is wrong with music today. and to all the people bringing up how "young" the band is... why does that come into how the album is scored? an album that sucks still sucks no matter how old the makers of it are. stop defending the shitty music cause you think you have a shot at getting your dong wet with the singer. which you don't.

this band is a blackhole of suck. I hope their fans get eaten by penguins

hahaha.

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 6:23 AM (EDT)
My Score:

So, Avril or Hayley? My nut's on Avril, the Paramore chick kinda screams jailbait.

Yeah, I'd sooner join absolutepunk than punkbands.com

punkbands.com! HA HA HA! Get the fuck outta here douche, no one takes your shitty site serious. Not like anyone really takes this one serious either, but it still has way more credibility than yours.

It's better than my review:

"These guys suck, but that singer chick looks hot sometimes"

Posted by coldwaffles on 2007-07-21 00:30:17
My Score:

"I personally love "That's What You Get". . . that's about it. The Score is for Hayley's orange pubic hairs."

amended score for just that song. it's really a perfect pop song.

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 12:12 AM (EDT)
My Score:

"Hallelujah," "Born For This" and "Misery Business" are all great pop songs. The rest is pretty forgettable, though.

I'm pretty embarrassed that a place as respected as Punknews would run a review this blatantly biased and hateful, though. Is professionalism too much to ask?

-Scott

Yeah, they are posting advertisements for this album on the banners at the top of the page. This is a horrible review. I doubt the reviewer listened to it more than once. This album sounds like what I imagine a Kelly Clarkson album would sound like. Not a great album but it is ok.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 20, 2007 at 11:46 PM (EDT)
My Score:

   
 
  
I personally love "That's What You Get". . . that's about it. The Score is for Hayley's orange pubic hairs.
   
  
 

its really not bad. nothing groundbreaking, but some fun songs

cheers. I thought the review I wrote at punkbands.com was rough. you may have out done me. good work!

eddiecash
-punkbands.com

Posted by keithybobeefy on 2007-07-20 22:14:22
My Score:

I realized that the song I liked wasn't a Paramore song at all. It was a Lydia song.

Still though, the girl is hot. So tens all around!

Posted by maverick on 2007-07-20 22:10:16
My Score:

"Hallelujah," "Born For This" and "Misery Business" are all great pop songs. The rest is pretty forgettable, though.

I'm pretty embarrassed that a place as respected as Punknews would run a review this blatantly biased and hateful, though. Is professionalism too much to ask?

-Scott

... and infact, this disc would probably get two more stars if it said KELLY CLARKSON on the front. not that i think hailey is as good of a singer.

and this wasn't done with humor in mind, rather, it was the best way to express how i felt.

"The reviewer is a douche

if this bands name was Tsunami Bomb,,it would have gotten 5 stars....grow up old punker"

no, because it would still be a fake vocal pop cd disguised as "postindiepunkpoprockcorewhatevertheywanttolabelitnowadays".

Posted by krid1987 on 2007-07-20 21:19:53
My Score:

hey btw extremely dumb review buddy...Not a great record but i will sell well. Last time I checked how young is this band?

What a terrible review.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 20, 2007 at 8:07 PM (EDT)
My Score:

On one of the songs they throw in a subtle little Refused rip off (although im sure they'd call it a tribute) from the Shape of punk to come...lame.

I would give this a one, but they get an extra star because i would totally let the singer slurp my noodle.

Wow, this review was stupid. It wasn't funny at all. If you thought it was funny, you must be slow-witted. Fucking idiot.

I was surprised when I read this entire review only to find it contained no humor.

This shit sucks.

Reviews on this site are bogus. Either they're fanboy gushing or its crap like this where the person "reviewing" the CD obviously hates the band or genre to begin with and is just venting.

True. You forgot about fanboys being dissapointed in a release and scoring it a 4.

I don't like this band, but this review was crap.

hah that was great review.
this band is 100% bullshit.

No one would care about these hacks if this girl didn't put out on a regular basis.

that's the biggest piece of crap and lies i've ever read. i met paramore and they were nice geniune people...this review makes them look like idiot teenagers who don't put passion into their music...and if you really did research on the song meanings and backgrounds you'd realize they're the complete opposite of what this piece portrays them as.

journalism is obviously a dying art, because anyone with talent would know not to print information so false as this.

Posted by keithybobeefy on 2007-07-20 15:55:21
My Score:

I enjoyed one song from their prior release, and I think it's ebcause I was in a real sappy mood.

But, the girl is pretty hot. So she get's a 10 for that.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 20, 2007 at 3:41 PM (EDT)
My Score:

Score is for your girl slurping MY noodle!

Posted by skeetskurt on 2007-07-20 14:45:24
My Score:

score is for the noodle slurpage.

my chick likes this band. i had to sit through one of their songs and pretend it wasn't as awful as it really was. whatever it takes to get my noodle slurped i guess.

the Hanson of punk.

"surprised they arent on a major."

I think that they actually are on a major; it just doesn't say it on the side of the case. Look at the trademark/duder on the back of the case with all of the small font and I think it says Atlantic.

so where was the review? you do realize they are just kids anyway.

The reviewer is a douche

if this bands name was Tsunami Bomb,,it would have gotten 5 stars....grow up old punker

sort of like you with my MCR reviews eh?

Nothing was ever proven...nothing.

Great review, horrilble band! I didn't even want to hear what it sounds like. Nice!

street teamers?

Posted by CantSitStill on 2007-07-20 13:58:00
My Score:

remember when Vinny ran FBR?

All these "postitive" comments in a row must be one pissed off Paramore fanboy.

sort of like you with my MCR reviews eh?

When people want to see paramore more than bad religion, the world is in need of some help

All these "postitive" comments in a row must be one pissed off Paramore fanboy.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 20, 2007 at 1:38 PM (EDT)
My Score:

This is just about the most ignorant review of an album I've read this year.

This is the record the BAND wanted to make - heck yes, they'd like to be successful, but they didn't compromise their music one bit to get there. They made exactly the record they wanted to make and they fought and worked like hell to make it...so whether you like it or not, it's as far as you can get from a corporate manufacturered album.

Of course, I don't know why I would expect the reviewer to know that, since they can't even spell Hayley's name correctly.

Review is probably too harsh. These kids may not be your thing, but they're pretty earnest and Hayley is adorable.

Score is for the review/reviewer. It's remarkable how he criticizes Fueled By Ramen and Paramore for the opportunity to sell records and reap long-term profits. Your review could pertain to any band wishing to establish a career predominantly because eventually, one objective for artists is to bring more awareness to their brand (or in this case, band). Moreover, have you considered that Paramore possibly desires to play and takes pleasure in the music they are recording and releasing? Close-minded douchebag...

Oh, and you write like shit. Take a course in journalism.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 20, 2007 at 1:22 PM (EDT)
My Score:

ugh, terrbile, although Im looking forward to the new Eisley-oldpunker-

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 20, 2007 at 1:21 PM (EDT)
My Score:

Fuck this review. The band and the new album are great! ;)

Wow. This album is a step up from the last one, and the songs rule. The band is tight as hell live. Bashing a band like Paramore to look cool is like kicking a puppy to look hard.

ooooooooooh man this band is my guiltiest pleasure ever, and i really just dont care.

what's up with these reviews lately? at least the gallows one was funny, this is just boring.

lame.

This band and album are lame, and it seems like it's meant for high school kids, mainly.

HOWEVER, "Born for This" is a catchy song. Admit it.

Posted by tylerdurden8136 on 2007-07-20 12:53:04
My Score:

Haha, great review, this shit sucks ass.

You can tell this review would have been exactly the same regardless of what's on the CD.

i don't hate this cd at all. it is fun, and i absolutely love the second track, but it totally comes off as fake, and corporate. surprised they arent on a major.

I get the review but listen to it for what it is: Fun.

Saw them at Warped, at the risk of coming off like a complete douche, I atually enjoyed their set. Their, I said it, they're good live.

Reviews on this site are bogus. Either they're fanboy gushing or its crap like this where the person "reviewing" the CD obviously hates the band or genre to begin with and is just venting.

Posted by glasspipemurder on 2007-07-20 12:18:10
My Score:

this band is a joke.

the video for whatever single is on this album plays non-stop it seems like at my gym

this stuff is not good at all