This review is piss poor. What price will you pay and gamble are both great songs even if 2/3's of the songs are covers

Jelone always fucks things up.

What the person below me said. This review is poor.

this is a poor review, and not just because I disagree wholeheartedly with your opinion jelone. you seem unaware that every song on the EP is a cover version, and fail to mention the fact it was released as a benefit for Haiti. it's just lazy writing, plain and simple.

"Reading the comments below reinforces my belief that Propagandhi fans are a bunch of holier-than-thou douchebags"

That is a pretty holier-than-thou and douchy comment

I was thinking about buying this, but was inclined not to bother after reading reviews about it . Then I saw some awesome competition to win some of their old vinyl if you bought this EP and I thought 'why the hell not, I was considering it anyway, charity is charity and that extra vinyl insentive sounds pretty neat'. And then I see that G7 only takes Visa or Mastercard, cards that I don't have. Lame. Plus that competition is only open to people in the USA and Canada. Lamer.

i am their biggest fan and am not holier-than-thou, nor a douchebag.

Claiming "I am their biggest fan" resembles a holier-than-thou attitude.

Feeling the need and taking the time to say "[I am not] a douchebag" and refute that guy's statement resembles douchebaggery.

But I'm just messin' with ya. I'm the biggest douche of all.

Uhhhhh I love this record. Prop can do no wrong!

Weakerthans > Propagandhi

Reading the comments below reinforces my belief that Propagandhi fans are a bunch of holier-than-thou douchebags.

i am their biggest fan and am not holier-than-thou, nor a douchebag.

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"Just shit my NOFX shorts" should totally be a meme around here... get on that people!

Reading the comments below reinforces my belief that Propagandhi fans are a bunch of holier-than-thou douchebags.

I think this ep is pretty cool. Not disappointed at all.

Score is for finally getting a studio version of Gamble :D

Just shit my NOFX shorts after hearing Leg Hold Trap.

Previously unreleased for a reason...

Also worth noting, Stephen Caroll of the Weakerthans was also a member of Hercules Toothpick, the band John Samson was in pre-propagandhi and from which Leg-Hold Trap is a cover. Don't quote me on that though.

I'll agree that the charity should have been mentioned but saying that "it doesn't matter because it's for charity" does not compute. This is a music site, that has music reviews. If the quality of the music is impacted by the purpose for releasing it, reviews would become infinitely harder to write. That said, I echo the sentiment that it's probably just best to donate your money to the charity.

As a huge fan of their old material, I must proclaim that this EP is almost garbage.
So glad I didn't fork over any cash for it.

2/10

My copy of Quantity mentions no such cover-ness (it's the white cover with a picture of Jord with a mohawk). In any case, it appears to be a song John wrote while in a band called Toothpick Hercules previous to Propagandhi. So it's... still his own song. Anyway, I stumbled across this interesting link discussing ancient Propagandhi history: http://musicruinedmylife.blogspot.com/2009/03/peoples-history-of- propagandhi.html

Also, I always thought that "Leg-Hold Trap" was a cover, cuz that's what they said it was on Quantity.

I enjoyed the EP. The two covers are good. I kinda wish Chris' vocals were from that era, too. When I first listened to "What Price Will You Pay?" I thought "Wow, Chris sounds kinda like he does now. I guess he was going for something different, seeing as how he talks about how 'strange' the song was to him when he first heard it." When "Gamble" sounded nothing like the live version on Quantity, I thought that was a little odd. I finally got to the end of the liner notes, and saw that Chris' vocals and guitar were re-recorded for both songs.

In short: The EP is Chris singing two songs the band covered in '96, and a Samson HTCE outtake released for a good cause.

The liner notes are swell.

Misanthropee: It's a digital EP. There's no physical product.

pretty sweet ep, for a good cause too!

"[How To Clean Everything, Less Talk, More Rock, and Supporting Caste] feature the group’s best writing, in terms of political missives, rock music and humor."

"And let’s be honest, frontman Chris Hannah didn’t really come into his own as a lyricist until the new millennium. Sure, there’s a beauty in the directness of 'Stick the Fucking Flag Up Your Goddam Ass, You Sonofabitch,' but it’s not exactly the most eloquent, mature form of political discourse."

I'm a bit confused by that contradiction. Would you mind clearing it up?

"Let's hope this isn't a preview of the next LP."
- SmittyyttimS

These songs were recorded in the early to mid-'90s, they don't write like this anymore.

this really is the worst review i've seen on this site in awhile. not so much the writing just the serious lack of knowledge on the subject matter. who fact checks these things?

wow, i rarely agree with the reviews on here. I have every propagandhi album and this is complete garbage. The talking style vocals in that first song made me cringe.....how generic can you get with those lyrics? Let's hope this isn't a preview of the next LP.

I love the three newer propagandhi albums. But have no interest in hearing these old songs. I really think John is better of in the weakerthans and propagandhi are stronger without him.

this was released as a benefit ep

i don't think propagandhi had any interest in releasing "better" songs .

Wow. I didn't think it was that awful. It is what it is. A reminder of what Propagandhi was like back in the 90's.

For the record though, they got better and better with each album.

I'd say if you're willing to recognize the primacy of this release's charity angle, don't buy it and donate directly. Smaller overhead, and no wasted petroleum and wood pulp on a product no one in their right mind would enjoy as more than a novelty anyway.

Of course though, a lot of people who wouldn't donate otherwise will probably buy this, so whatever. I still love this band; their earliest stuff not so much, though.

The point that this is purely a charity release warrants the obvious lack of musical quality of this EP. It's primarily a record to serve as a relief for Haiti, regardless of the low revenue that will be most likely be generated. It's still an honourable effort from Propagandhi. Hence, it's quite difficult to rate this release by conventional criteria (i.e. musical quality), which consequently sparks a controversial debate. I say: just buy the EP and be happy you've done some charity work.

"all 3 are covers" - oof, taxi for Jelone!

all 3 are covers

Code of Honor (What Price Will You Pay?), some band called Toothpick Hercules (Leg Hold Trap), and Lowest of the Low (Gamble)

that said it's still eh, but the booklet on the g7 website you can read is pretty entertaining and the money goes to charity so no complaints here

Man, I figured eventually my run of submitted reviews getting used would end, but I wish it hadn't ended here, 'cause this review isn't that great.

I'll agree that the shit is sub-Propagandhi-par, and I completely agree that Track 1 is awfully reminiscent of Anti-Flag, but 1) You neglect to mention the charity angle, 2) You don't know that "Gamble" is a cover, 3) You don't mention that two of these tracks appeared as live cuts on Where Quantity Is Job #1, and 3) You think How to Clean Everything is better than Today's Empire's, Tomorrow's Ashes, which is insane.

wcgandy - he's not criticizing the cause, he's reviewing the EP. That's why it's on a music website.

I bought it, support the cause, but I agree with the reviewer's opinion. It's weak material from Propagandhi, which is disappointing because I love most of what the band does and was hoping for some lost gems from the Less Talk era.

propagandhi is a hardcore band?

This is one of the worst reviews I've read here recently. It's a benefit release. It doesn't have to be good. Sounds like you blogspotted this one without realizing what the cause of the release was.

I haven't heard this stuff yet. i'm sure it's some pretty ratty material, but if it was good you would have heard it 15 years ago.

Gamble" is a Lowest of the Low song.

at least 2/3 are covers. Don't know about the first track. Sweet guitar tone though!

How could you not like Todays Empires or Potemkin City Limits? I've always thought Propagandhi got better on each album they realeased. In my opinion Back to the Motor League is one of the best songs of all time. Each to their own though.