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Review by: Scott See others by this writer The Get Up Kids online (link) Only registered users can post comments Published on May 14th 2002
Two types of people are going to read this review: people who hate the Get Up Kids and want to see me bash them, and - well, actually, that's probably the only type of person that's reading this. It's a shame, really. The Get Up Kids have inexplicably become the whipping boys of the emo-pop explosion, taking the brunt of everyone's criticisms from Pitchfork to Buddyhead. The band has gone from meager Midwest beginnings to being the openers on national tours for Green Day and Weezer, not to mention consistently selling out their own shows across the country. These kids have worked their asses off in their brief existance and all they ever do is catch flak for it; if I were them, I'd be burnt out, too. And if I were burnt out, this would be the album I'd make. Please login or register to post comments. What are the benefits of having a Punknews.org account?
Good fucking album, let me tell you what. They fucking completely revamped their style and I think they still sound great and our still original and still have their own sound, even if its not their old sound. I understand why people do hate this album, because the music they played on their previous albums might not even be considered in the same genre as the music that is being heard here. It just happened that they got lucky and made songs that still satisfy me. And isn't that what it's all about? So I commend you, Get Up Kids, for bending over and just completely putting yourself in a vulnerable position. You made music that you felt you had to make, even if your base fans fucking hate it. Long live. RATFE Dude, i LOVE TGUK. Ever since i heard Something to Write Home About, I decided that these guys are like, my heroes... but anyways, I got Eudora... and HOLY CRAP, that CD rocks! It's almost all i listen to, it beat out the battle for my CD player against Punk Rock Classics such as Lees Than Jake - Losing Streak, MXPX - Teenage Politics, NOFX - The Decline and Blink 182 - Dude Ranch. I seriously love that album. Then they came out with a new album. I got it. I was puzzled at first... but i started listening to it. I got those songs stuck in my head. It may not be high energy like Rx Bandits or Skankin' Pickle, but man, it rocks! I love this album. And Their drummer...! He's nuts! I play drums in a local ska band, and their drummer is one of the drummer i wish i could play like. Have you ever seen him play? He's like ambidexerous or something. It's so cool. But anyways... all i know is that this album may not be the "Hardest" or the "fastest" or "most emoish(if that's a word)" but it is definantly classic and i have to say that from this album to Four Minutes Mile, you got every type of music that i listen to, and that's why TGUK are, in my book, one of the best bands out there today. (they're up there next to 311) This album isn't so good compared to the other stuff. Something to Write Home About is definately the best of their works. But come on, we're die hard Get Up Kids fans... So we give them credit. Hannah hold on and Campfire Kansis were great songs! And it's EMO-punk... give them a break. TGUK for life!!! hii people,im portugal, dont be suprise but i listen to tguk for past 3 years, and i didnt realized that this band would be so talked, about the other critics i like to say that if you want to have a cool tguk,first respect their choices, and then make constructive critics to the their music...and what the hell, if you are pissed about the music and you have bought the cd, shame on you, even in the tguk internet page you can listen to the musics and choose to buy or not to buy it,i give 9/10 to this album because no one is perfect... Hey Get up Kids you are very cool,what about a concert in Portugal? could you consider that atleast? Go to www. Punkcreations. Com now !!!! This album is alright but their old stuff is definetly better. i recently saw the get up kids when they came to pittsburgh and they were pretty boring but hot rod circuit kicked ass! JB.... = Julien Bureau.. i enjoy this album quite greatly. the get up kids make me quiver with listening delight. I found 'Don't hate me' 10000000 times better than 'Shorty' but its just me. Personally, I found the vocals really annoying, but it works. Somehow everything comes together and the lyrics aren't too bad. And as for classifying them as emo or not... Who cares? Thanks -Gloria ok this is how it goes, first of all education does not scare me at all. I'm not afraid to learn or experience something new. Although I do enjoy learning there is a time and place for everything. In this case it might not be so obvious. This is a place to talk about music, in this secton in particular, the get up kids latest effort. Not how in the begining there was sad, then came upset, then "emo" music. If people want to hear about that go to a hitory of emo site, or if you want to talk about it create a website or forum or chat room or whatever else you want. You don't go to the DMV and ask about property rights on you house,come on. Or you could just take what I say, disagree, and respect what I say by not trying to degrade it with childish comments. I say long winded as an opinion, some state it as a fact that I am affraid to learn. There is a difference. (Now thats a lot of bs)RATFE I think the get up kids rock and this album would only really appeal to those "true" fans because i def agree that this album is like nothing else they're done but it's still a winner! I think the majority of the people who have commented on "On a Wire" are too hung up in the term "emo". I admit, I do like the bands who fall under that category, but I also respect their desires to change their music. As James Dewees says, "You never write the same thing twice." I'm sure some of you have followed The Get Up Kids for many years, starting with Four Minute Mile. I have. My opinion is, if you really truely love a band for who they are, you will like anything they release. When I first heard "On a Wire", I skipped through the tracks quickly and thought, "This isn't TGUK at all." Then I started to realize, this is Matthew Pryor, Jim Suptic, Rob Pope, Ryan Pope, and James Dewees. These are the guys I have been listening to forever. I listened to the record with that in mind and I loved it. If you love a band, you're going to at least respect what they change in their music. The Get Up Kids have just proved to the world with this record that they are out to make music and nothing more, and that makes me love them even more. I see that some of you have said that they are weak lyrically and musically and I think that that is completely wrong. TGUK were strong in both fields with "Four Minute Mile", "Something to Write Home About", and "Eudora" but I think "On a Wire" reflects their most effort, both musically and lyrically. I think that people need to let go of the "emo" term and learn to listen to music that doesn't always fall under that category. This post will probably cause some people to get mad, but that's a risk I have to take to get my point across: "On a Wire" is amazing work by none other than the greatest band in my mind. RAFTE, What happened to the old get up kids??? Im the dork who wrote the long winded comment. There is no need to get offended over the comment. You need to calm down. Its nice to write a comment about the album but not talk about the origins of the get up kids and emo music since the beginning of time. Take some pepto and kick it. RATFE Hello EvilDeadalive, i prefer their old records but this one isn´t bad either. i really apreciate that they chose the hard way with a record like this. another "something to wr...." record and they are the next big "emo" thing... I think I get your point now. You're arguing for the sake of arguement? One guy cuts down another for a simple typo, and yet makes one himself, and I point it out. No need to make this a bigger deal than it is. Calm the fuck down. If you look you'll see that this arguement (the most pointless one in history I might add) started because I think the grammar police have a little too much time on their hands. I could care less about peoples typos as long as I can understand what they are saying. Evildeadalive, Calm down toughguy, whoever you were bitching at made a simple typo, it's not the end of the world. And you're questioning my maturity? Evildeadalive, do you actually spell check every comment you make on here? give me a fucking break. "Cute and Paste", umm I think you meant cut and paste. Next time you might want to spell check. I think the person is just jealous because s/he can’t write as good and with intelligence. The Get Up Kids rock and the new direction does take a few listen to get warmed up to but overall it is great. Hello, Dork below me, just because someone is educated and has something to say that is correct, does not make them "long winded". As for free time, some of us get paid lots of money to surf the web. So stop being jealous and it does not take much time to cute and paste from articles or is that concept too mind blowing. So, give respect to the generation that is educating you all about the history of punk music. Your an idiot, so just shut the hell up. However, TGUK have produced another great album. Some of you people have too much free time and are long winded. Good album, Rthfe For those of you wanting a definition and history of emo here it is. If you want further information go to www.allmusic.com. That is were this information was taken from. Digablechild, you are pretty right on with your comments. As for skating, just pop some pain pains and keep on shreading. Some people are just so touchy these days. For your information I am a thirty year old who has done his fair share of staying true to the alternative community. I have watched and participated in the many trends while growing up. I had my first skateboard in the 70's. Yeah it was one of those colorful banana boards. I have been a skater until a few years back when my lower back and knees just couldn't take it anymore. The lingering effects of a bad car injury in highschool finally caught up with me. A day doesn't go by that I wish I was out skating. However, since I have lived most of my life in the DC area, absent five years in Knoxville for college, I have watched the DC punk scene grow and explode. It pains me to hear people not know about the roots of emo music. This is the best get up kids CD of all time, cause they made sure that none of the "I swear I friggin' hate pop, even though i obviously love it" people will never listen to this. Great music, great CD I'm beginning to wonder if this site is nothing but a bunch of wannabe-bigshots insulting each other's opinions without even validating theirs beforehand. If you have something to say, make sure it's about the album, and make sure you've actually given it a chance without prejudice. Emo is another name for sissies. This has NOTHING to do with punk (and I actually listened to the cd before saying that) Everyone in here needs to go out and get or DL the Ramones S/T or Rocket to Russia. Its a sure cure for the blues, cos thats wat I had to listen to after I listened to this record. I'm looking forward to that... :/ Holy shitfuck. New Found Glory is trying to be Less Than Jake? yeah yeah yeah, this is from that same anonymous guy who commented on the onther album. Everybody had got to shut the hell up. This is just simply amazing music here people. What this is is just raw emotion and musical talent. I dont understand how the hell you couldn't like this cd. I bought it the day it came out and still have not stopped listening to it. So for all you people who dont like tguk, please go get a life. And yes they maybe weak but who the hell cares, i guess your not the type who should be listening to this. The used is my favorite band but TGUK are a close second, SO SHUT THE HELL UP. Tguk are something desperately needed in the punk culture, there are to many damn poppy bands like new found glory, who is just trying to be less than jake, so do yourselves a favor, if you dont like tguk, dont bother posting a comment. Thank you No we arent. The Hidden Public controls this web site. I command you to LOVE all NoFx- even if they are old, fat, boring, men with no good music to write or anything to sing about. BECAUSE I SAID SO. Hey cunthead we re here to give our opinions so shut your hole. "Since when did punk mean "what i think is absolute and perfect and if you dont agree you are a poser and you suck" ?" Since when did punk mean "what i think is absolute and perfect and if you dont agree you are a poser and you suck" ? Quick! Conform and try to agree with everyone before they hate you! Hurry or you wont have friends and life will be just TERRIBLE! Are we over our middle-school-become-the-default-personality-thing now? I sure as hell hope so. This album is a piece of shit. Why is it reviewed on PUNK news??? This is by far the best album the Get Up Kids have made. The lyrics are awesome and creative. The way they use the acoustic is bad ass. Oh yeah and im a 19 year old who listens not only 14 year olds listen. We don't have enough do-nothing whiny bitches in the music industry, do we? I can see how girls could like this music, and maybe a few gay johns, but men? Grown men? No! The music is bland and shitty, the vocalist is a annoying to no end. I turned it off at track 3 screaming "MY GOD! THIS IS WHAT THEY CALL ALTERNATIVE?" Its just a bunch of shitty love dittys and other stuff that makes stupid little brats cry. Good. Just don't act like this band perfected a respectable genre! this cd is nothing to write home about, but "Campfire Kansas" is probably one of the best songs i've ever heard to chill to. I give all my respect to the The Get Up Kids for trying to evolve and grow as a band. It's real refreshing to see a band take a chance and change their style. Put themselves out there for everyone to critique and i really respect that. They get 8 points for Campfire Kansas and Overdue. well after reading all of these comments and replies i've come to the conclusion that MOST of you aren't over the age of 14 and you wouldn't know good music if it hit you in the face. Well, I've listened to it... many many many times over and I can't shake it. I don't like this album. At least not nearly as much as i wanted to. They just seem so bored. And man, I'm really starting to be annoyed by the keyboard modulating crap that James is adding to every song. I did go to see them live when they came with Superchunk. It hurt soooo bad. They played a grand total of two songs off of Four Minute Mile ("Don't Hate Me" and "No Love" which was introduced as a song of this CD they made in 2 days). They played the entire new CD, which despite what they were trying to promote on their website, did NOT get any more rocking live. They even managed to ruin songs I liked with added organ (thanks James). I'm happy that they're doing what they want and not just hammering out the same thing again. It just could have been so much better... 10,000 hits? i dont know if i like this cd or not. its not the get up kids that i know but everyone has to change every now and then. there a few really good songs and a few terrible ones. Strange that the review should mention 'The Company Dime': - I really like the Get Up Kids and, despite my initial disappointment, have grown to love On A Wire. This album is so different but so great i am a big fan of the get up kids and all other vagrant bands and any one who hates this album is not a true get up kid fan and as the band say you only dissapoint the ones who don't believe. i agree that the Get Up Kids new cd is awesome. i bought it the next day it was out and i really look up to the way they put so emotion into their music. it sux that their others were so pop-music like. but that wont change the way i feel about them now. dude, the better tracks are great (campfire kansas is an awesome "chill song"), the lesser tracks are really weak, but i give props to tguk for trying to evolve as rockers. Too many bands do the same thing over and over and its real refreshing to see a band defy the emo-status that everyone placed on them. though more of a "chill" cd then the others, its still better then the junk most bands put out. its a shame that the get up kids put out such poppy emo stuff before "on a wire" cuz so many people that would love this cd will never give it a chance. this is by far my fav get up kids cd, the song writing and lyrics vastly improved from "something to write home about" to this cd. at 13 this cd probably would have pissed me off too but you will like it in a couple of years. the getupkids newest cd kicks ass... c... ur are the coolest chick in the world! i heart c! The music is well thought out. The lyrics are strong. People named Eric Killian need to learn how to spell before they cricize a perfectly good cd I was pretty dissapointed when i first bought this cd, because i know the fast, raw energy of four minute mile and the perfect pop of something to write home about. however i gave it a few more listens and a few songs grew on me. Campfire Kansas is a great little sing along, "Wish you were" here remembers the best of their emo days and "worst idea" is fun too. The kids are exploring new territory here and most of the time come up strong. I wish i never heard "all i know" because itsw just awful. The new songs didnt go over very well when i saw them live. The crowd was just kind of staring, until they busted out the old stuff. New album is wicked. who gives a fuck about emo. good music is good music whatever genre. Its just plain BAD i disagree, ON A WIRE is a beautiful follow-up, ignoring all 'emo' propaganda and evolving their music into not neccessarily what they think will sell (because they could write an album for simply big money purposes), instead its a display of their progress as musicians.. at worst the album is a little dull, but "Overdue", "Stay Gone", "Let the Reigns Go Loose", and "Grunge Pig" are GUK memorables.. Honestly i think that this album shows that te gt up kids are falling apart. If they dont change fast then there gunna be a band that sit y a fire and sings folk songs. There god musicians, and the Midwet Rock type o music wa a success. It as the ablum was even too emo, it wa to boring. AI think there work on this album was indeed horrible, and the album showed. I will no settle for this. I'l just hav to cntinue listening to Red Letter Day Somthin to Write Home About, & For Minuete Mile, until they get there act together. Its a shame, there my favorite band, i hope for geat chnge i do, n so does a lot o people. one of my favorite cds, different from there past releases, but change is good. this shows them maturing and progressing musically. this album was great. i havent been a tguk fan for very long, in fact this was the first album i had lestiend to. after buying this i bought something to write home about and loved it the same. even thou the two are totally diff. i like the type of music they changed or excpreinced with. emo is a gener that is diffinantly a trend. and emotion is in good music any music with emotion is cool. im a hardcore kid and i took a chance and now i lesten to dashboard conffesional and i love it. its no glass jaw or refused but its still bad ass!thubs u tguks fucking rock and if your redkneck you wont like this or if your a meatle head who lestiens to metalica cause then your deff a redkneck so fuck off! I happen to think this album is great. Granted, it's not what I expected, but what the hell. After a couple of listens, it really grows on you. This album is fucking good! So what if its different to the classic 'something to write home about', its a great album. shit man! what tha fuck is it?? This album sucks! I want the old Tguk back, indie really sucks, i won´t go to GUKs show again! I want the EMO BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!! i wonder if they did this shit (album) so as to sell more! A dissapointed old FAN.. I agree with TheGetupChick and all the people who have said this before...this album was an immense disappointment for me. This CD sucks and that's all there is to it. If you don't believe it, then come to a show, and watch the disappointment on the faces of the entire crowd when all they play are the shitty new songs. I was just at the KC show, and it was awful. This is their hometown, where some of their most dedicated fans who have known them for years are. (I should know, I am one.) No one wants to say it to their faces, but the album BLOWS guys, seriously. I listened to it a million times and I just can't even take it one more time. I think I'll sell it back to the Love Garden Sounds....sorry. The first GUKs Cd I bought was something to write home about. At first I didnt listen to it that much...but then when I was tired of my other CDs I put in the GUK and I absolutly LOVED IT! I just kept listening to it in the shower, on the way to school everywhere! Then I bought the Four MInute Mile and I just kept buying their Cd's and I NEVER got tired of them! They are just like my favorite band, and I LOVe their drummer he has so much rythm. So I considered myself one of the BIGGEST GUKs fans! I finally saw them in concert in Las VEgas....I was so excited about it. And TGUK just played their new shitty ol' songs...and live they just really sucked (well the audience was lame 2) when the GUK played their old stuff every1 was happy, then the new stuff it was like NO! For some reason I just dont really care for their New Cd....but I will alwayz love their old music, and I still cant go a day w/ out hearing one of their songs! I got this album when it first came out, rushed home, threw it on and was immediately dissappointed. I left in my desk for a month or so and found it one day and said what the fuck, i'll play it, after all I never listened to the whole thing. Well HOLY SHIT..this album is really great. It's just damn good indie rock...leavin' the gay emo shit behind was a good move. If I don't fall asleep to this album, then you guys will, bitching about categorizing music like sorting fucking mixed play-doh, it's just plain ignorant. ever since i heard my first get up kids song, i haven't gone a day without listening to one of their songs. they seemed almost too good to be true. the songs seemed so inspired and freeflowing. each instrument tickled more than just my sense of hearing. and the drumlines... the most creative i have ever come to know. when i heard overdue for the first time, i thought the song was cool and figured it would be the exception on the album with regard to its not being much like the kids' previously released music. i couldn't have been more mistaken. Almost the entire album has a depressing theme to it. They seem almost like a different band altogether. i suppose if this were the first album i had ever heard from the get up kids, i might have rated it a 6 or 7. but considering their older shit, i can't help but be extremely disappointed. but hey, there's gotta be a reason for this album turning out the way it did; that's what i'm bent on finding out. this alblum is great because it is different from the rest. If anyone was a true music fan rather than a "hardcore punk rocker" they would really see the alblum for what its worth. There are some songs that lack at some points but as a whole i think the alblum is fantastic. Plus "Campfire Kansas" is a fucking awesome song. But what do i know im not punk. personally i think this scott dude is a total fucktard. so what if this cd doesn't sound like the rest. i have loved tguk for a long time and i don't intend to stop. i love the new cd, and the songs were great live as well. maybe you should listen to the cd more than once before you critique it. hey scott, just to tell u, i went to tguk show in dc and they played campfire kansas live...it rocked. tguk are the best band alive and their new album is just tguk trying out new stuff-they arent copying off anyone...their music is original and just plain COOL! But I do agree, their old stuff is the best ever. anyways this album is good...i mean it sounds like a definite group effort. this album has some of my favorite songs by them [hannah hold on, campfire kansas, fall from grace]...i'd tell anyone i know to buy this - yuou cant base a review of an album on comparisons to past albums theyve made. the question is...if this was a NEW band coming out, with this being their debut CD, would you still give it such bad reviews? huh-huh...WIMPCORE - did you make that up yourself you fucking idiot? some people shiould be banned from places like this. heres to you man fuck off and maybe LISTEN t6o music inste4ad of hearing it once and saying - oooh this is DIFFERENT i hate it. fuckin wanker. I think it was 1996 when The Get Up Kids became my cd players new obsession. I would drive from coast to coast with The Four Minute Mile, Woodson and Red Letter Day non stop for 40 plus hours and I never got sick of the same songs. I got to see The Get up Kids in North Carolina in a small record store in Chapel Hill to then watch them play at the Cat's Cradle the same night, it was nothing but Amazing I must say! I bought "On A wire" about a month ago and I have forced myself to like it but it just aint happening. I can't think of 1 get up kids song that i don't like but this record has more than a few. I actually thought it was the wrong cd in the cd case that I just purched when i first heard it since i always skip the first track to play the cd from the middle. It's just some weird bullshit thing I do when i hear a cd for the first time. I hear some New Amsterdam coming through in this plus some other style that i have no idea or care where it came from. I love the new amsterdams but lets keep the get up kids a seperate deal....."just like my opinion man.....the Get up Kids will remain my favorite but this cd was not a good one, cool to experiment but I want to hear what sounds good and this does not sound good to me at all. i can swallow about three tracks, Track 1 is great, track 8 is amazing but that is all I can deal with. the get up kids are so amazing for what they have released thus far so don't count them out. The Get up kids are the best even to a old 30 year old washed up skateboarder. Take care!! This album is a complete disappointment to any rock fan. I don't know if it should be considered ironic or simply a trade off for selling records to audiences who never supported bands when they were "local." Local doesn't carry with it the hope of being big; it displays a love for music and those who take the time and energy to venture past programmed radio stations. I can't help but ask, "who is their audience?" I skipped through every track and will skip the next album release. The get up kids should be changed to the GET OUT KIDS. Seriously, a song titled "Campfire Kansas" belongs on the soundtrack of "Wizard of Oz." Read this too, more fft This CD is really a great CD, I first heard TGUK when i heard Something To Write Home About, as soon as i heard it i bought it, then I started buying all there other CD's like 4 minute mile, Eudora, REd Letter Woodson. Personally, i love every last one of those cd's, at first i didnt like the keyboard stuff they did, at all, but after a while it kinda rgows on ya. I was expecting something a little bit more upbeat from them with this album and at first, i was sorely dissappointed, but if you actually take the time to listen to most of the songs you will actually start to appreciate it more, here's a few qoutes i would like you all to read,just a little food for thought. Scott sucks big dick. While it isn't quite as catchy and great as something to write home about i think the album is pretty good. it's a way different sound than their previous albums but what can you excpect people to grow up and mature and keep playing the exact same music that got them to the top of the indie scene. that's ridiculous. i just saw them live and all the new songs came off great and more rockin then the cd so maybe you guys should go see them live and then make your harsh judgements. face to face sucks just as bad as the get up kids. "Who's idea was it to let morons hear music?" "fugazi rules- and fugazi isn't emo, by what the description of emo is- then Ben E King and those old time '50's love singers were Emo as well dumbshits- emo seems to be whinning about girls and relationships- or crying about something. I don't hear Fugazi whinning about girls or relationships, their music doesn't have a genre, it's just great music. " Oh no, it looks like GUK abandoned the formula they perfected, and you're all sad. Who's idea was it to let morons hear music? I also just noticed that Scott gave this album a better rating than he did the new Face to Face...now that is a crime. It's no good having lots of reviews in your portfolio if none of them are accurate. - bigjerk This album blows. A few good songs but that's it...what a disappointment. Here's to all the emo kids regretting the TGUK tattoos they got a few years ago. - bigjerk Pretty amazing that such a bad record can cause such comment mayhem. Hahahaha. I on the other hand am just commenting to comment on that fact. And oh I almost forgot, since the split with rocket from the crypt came out I knew that their next album would be mid-tempo Cheap Trick (after they lost their edge) kinda boring FM poprock. But hay if that's what they gotta do.. Now they pulled a Cars (anno 1987), maybe next time they will pull a (godforbid) Incubus... To whoever was bitching about the naysayers being 13 year old kids: by the way- I never said Fugazi was pussy compared to Minor Threat dipshit- I said these pop emo bands are- not fugazi, fugazi rules- and fugazi isn't emo, by what the description of emo is- then Ben E King and those old time '50's love singers were Emo as well dumbshits- emo seems to be whinning about girls and relationships- or crying about something. I don't hear Fugazi whinning about girls or relationships, their music doesn't have a genre, it's just great music. Planes Mistaken For Stars is about as hardcore as they come- that isn't emo- what exactly makes a band "emo" and what makes a band "punk"? Huh? Dipshits? I mean, these "punk" bands nowadays resemble nothing of what punk was to begin with- so what makes them "punk"? Is it because htey started out independent? Most bands do idiots. The whole point and the whole purpose was lost long ago and now all we have are people like yourselves trying to place things into a genre the "corporations" basically created for you. You disgrace me and music in general. Die.....Please Die! Fucking idiots!- that sums up anyone who listens to this shit and everyone defending this band. CASE CLOSED "[insert band name] is emo" "[insert band name] is not emo you fucking idiot"All I ever hear on this site is how emo sucks and how too many bands these days are trying to be emo and are "selling out" or whatever. If emo is all that bad why does it matter who is emo and who isnt. Fuck it all, right? How can Fugazi not be emo whenever people heard them, tried to label them, and called them emocore? Isn't it hard not to be something when you invented it? Its like saying the Ramones aren't punk. Fugazi may not be mall emo...but dont say theyre not emo... and please figure out what youre talking about. dont just go buy the genre markers at hot topic. by the way, they have a new saves the day patch that you need to buy and iron on your emo shirt. The whole album is just a cheap immitation on Elliott Smith but with more of a Clingy, Geek vibe to it. They should stick to the Hard Rawwwk. Oh and to the idiot who said Fugazi aren't emo: That made me laugh for no less than 87 minutes. Then you go on to say that they are pussy compared to bands like Minor Threat? Well, considering some certain Fugazi members were in Minor Threat........ Calling London: I don't care what your friends think is emo. They are wrong. Who cares if TGUK have influenced new bands. Doesn't matter. They are'nt emo. wow, i did use the word "emo" a lot in my last post, didn't i? I know i don't know everything about the style of music, however, i do know enough about it to know that TGUK is the band most people (or atleast my friends) think of when they think of emo. i also know that they've influenced a bunch of newer bands. Ummm... emo is not a trend... well it is, but it has been around a long time as well (not as a trend of course), and yes it is considered a genre of music. I just read the response to my last comment about how much I was looking forward to this cd and all I have to say is if listening to this album and weezer makes me a pussy then fuck that I am a pussy. Call me what you like but I am going to listen to what I want and what I like. You know what I always say?... pick what you like and like what you pick. Carry that over into musical tastes and you will be fine... fuck everyone else that might give you shit! I just got this album today and I love it... but I am thinking it will end up in the same pile as Dashboard Confessional, The Anniversary, and a few other of my "emo" albums. They are in the "I will listen to this while I do my homework because it is so good but it wont make me want to sing along with it and I can concentrate" pile. But I am really into this album as of right now... I'm on track 5. EMO ISN"T A GENRE, IT'S JUST A TREND It's a stupid fucking name for a genre anyway. Isn't all music supposed to be emotional? No one can give a clear definition of emo, no one. - bigjerk i'm really sick of every band's new album being a disappointment...this sounds like country meets really bad pink floyd...i was just waiting for them to rock but they never did...but i still love 'em no matter what...hannah hold on and the first track were pretty good... drug addict music rules, pennywise sucks. Lou Reed > pennywise jocks. as for this album, i'm sure it gets old after listening to it twice. "..but the mohawk punk you speak of is even more pathetic- fuckin' drug addict music....Emo bands are pussy compared to bands like Black Flag...." I don't know what you guys are all yapping on about...personally i don't give a fuck whether a band is emo or not and the same goes for punk bands, metal bands, rock bands,... I like a lot of different stuff and it's all good in my book as long as the music is good. So stop being so shortsighted and just let the music do the talking Hey, okay i agree, shut up with the genre bullshit. cos something's quiet doesn't make it "wimpcore" or whatever. Emo came from emotional rock, but whatever, people all interpret it differently. whatever it is, I like it. As for Disturbed... I LIkE MAINSTREAM. I just like more than that too. Sure, there are some fun mainstream bands, but there's so much more, you have to open your ears dude. I stick with my "review" of this cd. "Planes Mistaken For Stars" isn't Emo you dipshit! Neither is "Fugazi". And Emo is pussy music- but the mohawk punk you speak of is even more pathetic- fuckin' drug addict music. Pennywise rules- and just because you like Pennywise doesn't mean you're a drunk you dumb fuck, I've loved PW for years and I don't drink or party or watch porno you stupid shit- Emo is just for people who would rather cry and complain at shows than jump around and create violent havoc. Emo bands are pussys in comparison to bands like Black Flag, Minor Threat, Pennywise, Danzig, Misfits, and Striking Distance. Emo started when hardcore bands in the late 80's basically sang/yelled higher and had more personal lyrics. Fugazi and Rites of Spring are some early emo bands. Some good emo bands from the past few years are: Sunny Day Real Estate (everything before the Rising Tide), Appleseed Cast, Mineral, The Casket Lottery, Cap'n Jazz, Planes Mistaken for Stars, Texas is The Reason, and SOME EARLY Get Up Kids songs. And just for future reference: Dashboard Confessioal is NOT emo. Saves the Day are NOT emo. Jimmy Eat World are NOT emo. (well, except a really old song or 2) The Juliana Theory are NOT emo. Just because a band plays music that isn't always happy or fast and the singer has a high voice doesnt make it emo. By those terms, Rush would be emo. You freaking idiots. I found this cd in the used bin the day after it came out. It really didn't surprise me that someone sold it already. I'm not gonna say it's bad or anything, but I love every album they released before this one. I personally think they've taken a turn for the worst, but that's just my opinion. I'm not into the mellow stuff like this, I'd rather listen to Sunny Day Real Estate or Braid if I'm looking for something more relaxing. The new Guk cd just seems to lack energy. I really wish I could buy it but I really can't stand it. It's too bad too cause I was really looking forward to it. It just sounds kinda jaded to me. I'm not sure what to think of this. Maybe they have lost their drive? What's up with all the stoopid synthwankin'? This guy used to fuck it up with Coalesce... And; for all you "they are this and that style": grow the fuck up. One day, maybe, you'll figure out that music is just music. Ah, by the way, I'm way into the whole post-emo/new-crust/avant-punk thing! Shiat.. If you Like or Dislike THE GET UP KIDS to calling london: what makes you think that you know exactly what modern emo is? and i find it halarious that you used the word emo 5 times in one four line comment... What the hell is Emo? Is Emo the same thing as wimpcore? the get up kids aren't emo? what are you talking about? of course they're emo. they're like, or were on they're last two albums, the definition of modern emo. i'm not saying this is a bad thing. i don't have a problem with the style, but i love how for every single emo band out today, there are people who say that band isn't emo. "Annoying vocals, generic musically- just pop- period, terrible music with no intensity. This is music for guy's who had their balls chopped off and feel no testosterone" for the last three years the get up kids have continued to amaze me. This new album marks another change for the kids and its one for the better. they've matured at musicians and lyricists in the last few years. the new songs have a laid back, tired feel but they really seem to show that this is where the kids are at right now and i for one really enjoy it. you can tell that they're giving it their all and i commend them. You are talking to people about mainstream while you actually like Disturbed? Word. I bought this CD the first day it came out. Mind, my musical taste runs from Dashboard and the Lyndsay Diaries to Anti-Flag to Throwdown to Disturbed to Pink Floyd :) to the Beatles, I like a whole lot of music. This CD, in my opinion, is absolutely amazing. It isn't pop. It doesn't immediately get stuck in your head. It's laid back. But it has so many classic rock influences, while maintaining what TGUK already had, that it's just amazing. This CD is probably in my top five CD's of all time. They are a unique band, so some don't like it. That's fine, go listen to your mainstream. But they have a great sound, and it's proven that people like it. So don't listen to this review that says it's uninspired crap. I'm amazed, as well, that while Matthew Pryor is married, he still manages to maintain the type of music characteristic of a somewhat younger generation, adapting the content to his own life. REALLY. Check this CD out. It's really good. That is all. To the person below me: You are a complete idiot. TGUK aren't emo. And we've all known for awhile that punknews.org doesn't just show "punk" news. You have very low intelligence. Don't compare these little girls to the Beach Boys. It's not like The Beach Boys were hard or anything- but they played great music- unlike these people. This band is just run of the mill emo crap- I don't get it- this sin't punk at all. What's sad is that if someone wrote a review for a metal band like Danzig, which is far closer to punk than this wimpy stuff, people would complain about it being metal- but this isn't punk in the slightest bit- punk seems to be dead and the only aggression remaining is from some new Hardcore bands and old guys like Rollins and Danzig who can still get it done- this stuff is weak,if this is what "punk" is than I don't want anything to do with "punk". It's one thing for a band to grow and change from one album to the next, constantly evolving their style, but this abandons their style completely. all of you who are complaining about the album "not sounding the same as the last one" are a bunch of 13 year old cunts. bands change, at least the good ones do. it would be incredibly boring if every album sounded the same. i'm glad the get up kids ditched the punk influence for a more rock 'n' roll sound and i'm glad they made this album. if you just plain dislike it that's one thing but if you dislike it because it doesn't sound like their old stuff your just being immature. some say this will alienate some fans, well if those fans are the people who want GUK to ake 'four minute mile' over and over then i say to hell with you. i'mglad your alienated because your obviously closed minded and not deserving of such an incredible band. listen to the ataris, they never do anything creative. We won't give you shit- we'll just call you what you rightfully are- A PUSSY!!! I like TGUK. Thats all there is to it. I will probably buy this album and the new weezer very soon. So you can all suck my balls if you dont like them and give me or any other fan shit. Very nice review. To me this is no more than a common tale. I've anticipated this album and i've looked forward to it for so long. It's happened many times in where i put on a cd for the first time and find that it's something totally different than what i expected. Now i'm not dissin the latest material from the get up kids, it's just that when i anticiapted this album, i anticipated to hear rocking tunes with crazy guitar riffs and catchy keyboard melodies. You know, what tguk are known for. The review made a good point on pryor's side project, the new amsterdams. You can definetly see an abundence of similarities in the lyrics and the music. All in all, i see myself listening to this album seldomly. I appreciate it for what it is. Don't get me wrong, it's great music, it's just not what i expected. horrible sounding, i found the cd on audiogalaxy 2 weeks ago, i know at first i said the same thing about saves the day's new album and it grew on me, but theres no way i can get used to this. pray that they dont play this shit at shows this summer. its a shame how many friggin bands have a cd with the song name "wish you were here" on it? I really like all of The Get Up Kids older albums. But I'm pretty sure I will never buy this album. If a friend of mine does happen to buy it, I might burn it, but thats it. Seriously though, their other albums are pure genious (not the complation one). I'm really looking forward to hearing this, I don't care what anyone else thinks. I enjoy their music, and I almost guarantee I will love this album. I think the only thing working on this album, and keeping it from sounding like a totally generic alt-rock/emo band, are Mathew Pryor's vocals. Their last album had slow tracks, but they were pleasant to listen to. These tracks aren't even that slow, just boring. I agree, this album is bad, but I like some emo. Annoying vocals, generic musically- just pop- period, terrible music with no intensity. This is music for guy's who had their balls chopped off and feel no testosterone wimpy album. period. These guys sound like every other wimpcore band. This goes out to the comment 3 down from me. What should they do when they are burnt by flak? You say get pissed?!? That is the worst reaction. THat is what is wanted and, moreover, expected by the persons throwing the flak. You say they are bending over, I say they are responding with a non-suttle anger/aggression. Violence is not a response, it's an impulse. It's an ignorant and arrogant result of acting on that impulse. The Get Up Kids responded with an ablum they deemed worthy, isntead of going reactionary and I commend them for it. Songs 5,6,12 are incredible. SOrry I don't know the names off top of my head. I'll go on record saying that I like TGUK..make fun of me, please. But I have yet to hear this album. - bigjerk Weak musicaly? If theres one thing that the get up kids arent is weak musicaly. The structures a way more complex than any punk or emo band i've heard. The riffs have plenty of variety and the drummer is freakin excellent. I would know, I am a drummer. Their just more suttle. I love the new album, it`s not like the older stuff but it is still great. Overdue is so good, I listen to it like 10 times a day. Very well written review I must say, kudos. But this band is just very weak musically and lyrically. I tried a few songs off this album and it wasn't bad, just wasn't anything- it made me feel nothing. Just, whatever- get some fuckin' energy. And the answer to your question- what should a band do when it is burnt out by flak and criticism? Go completely insane and be as brutal and violent as possible and do exactly what YOU want- these guys seem to just be bending over to takei t, rather than getting pissed- but then again, this is a pop band, so don't expect much They might lose some of their fan base, but remember, they made a huge sound change in between Four Minute Mile and Something to Write Home About as well, so this is not uprecedented. Anyways, I haven't heard it yet, so I'll hold off my opinions until I do. I agree with your review. The slow songs like Hannah and campfire kansas are all really good, its just theres no real good rocking songs to balance it. I like it, its just no something to write home about. |