Box Car Racer - Box Car Racer (Cover Artwork)

Box Car Racer

Box Car Racer: Box Car RacerBox Car Racer (2002)
Universal Music Group

Reviewer Rating: 1.5
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Contributed by: maverickScott
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My proposed ad campaign that MCA Records might run for this album: "Hey kids, like Blink 182? So do we here at MCA Records! Are your favorite singles by the band those 'deep' ones like 'Adam's Song' and 'Stay Together For The Kids'? You know the ones I'm talking about, the 'emo' ones! Those s.
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My proposed ad campaign that MCA Records might run for this album:

"Hey kids, like Blink 182? So do we here at MCA Records! Are your favorite singles by the band those 'deep' ones like 'Adam's Song' and 'Stay Together For The Kids'? You know the ones I'm talking about, the 'emo' ones! Those songs are really good, right? You know they are!"

"Well have we got the band for you! Tom [he's the hot one you all like, girls!] and Travis [he speaks softly but carries big sticks!] have started a side band called Box Car Racer! You know from a name like that that they're a lot more serious about their music. You won't find songs about girls and masturbation here, no way! This band only deals with real life topics, like death and the government and stuff! Don't you worry, you'll be able to relate just fine, we promise."

"And while Tom might not be singing about girls, the music hasn't changed, so don't fret, kids! The choruses in songs like "And I," "All Systems Go" and "Tiny Voices" sound like they were taken right off of the band's latest albums!"

"Are you worried that your punk rock friends will make fun of you for this? Don't fret! Ever heard of Tim Armstrong? Probably not, but your punk rock friends have, and they think he and his punk rock band, Rancid, are really cool! When you tell them that he sings on "Cat Like Thief," your punk rock friends will be wowed and let you hang out with them all the time! Plus, Tim sounds completely drunk and unintelligible on the song, so that's even *more* punk cred for you!"

"And speaking of "Cat Like Thief," remember that band that opened for Blink last summer, the Alkaline Trio? Well, Tom liked them so much that he took the music from their song "Got So Far To Go" and just put new words to it for "Cat Like Thief!" Talk about thievery! But that's okay, because stealing is punk rock - those kids will like you even more now!"

"What's that, you miss Mark? Well he makes a special guest appearance on "Elevator," and the song sounds just like the Blink 182 you know and love. Do you need any more reasons to buy this super way cool CD? I think not!"

Ok, enough of that. To sum this CD up in a phrase, it's Blink 182 in drop D tuning. Tom plays both guitar and bass on these recordings, and it's obvious - both parts mimic each other at almost every turn. Travis' drumming is definitely a standout, but he can't make every song sound good. The majority of these songs sound like bits and pieces thrown together - in most cases, the verses and the choruses don't sound anything alike. Or, in some songs, the music never deviates from the main pattern laid down at the beginning [i.e. the ever-popular "Cat Like Thief"]. There's a lot of needless orchestral stuff peppered throughout this album, too. It's like the band thought that this wouldn't make their shit smell as bad. Wrong, guys. I feel bad for all the fans they're duping into buying this. Utterly forgettable. Completely and utterly forgettable.

"Act now kids, and we'll throw in a free sticker! Call 1-600-BOXCAR1 to place your order now!"


People who liked this also liked:
Angels and Airwaves - I-EmpireBlink-182 - Dude RanchBlink-182 - Take Off Your Pants and JacketBlink-182 - Enema of the StateBlink-182 - Blink 182Angels and Airwaves - We Don't Need to WhisperBlink-182 - The Mark, Tom and Travis Show (The Enema Strikes Back!)Against Me! - As The Eternal CowboyAlkaline Trio - CrimsonThe Gaslight Anthem - The '59 Sound

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Goodfella66 (May 24, 2011)

It's amazing how this review sucks. It is just completely false, biased, and poorly written.

The only good is that you noticed that BCR took a riff from Alkaline Trio.

The rest is just utter shit, because this album is awesome, no matter what you say. Suck it up.

C-Men (June 29, 2008)

it's alright. i love tim armstrong's vocals on cat like thief. it's amazing!

Anonymous (May 30, 2006)

wow thats a great reveiw scott. this album is actually very good. rather then listning to scott, (who probably didnt even listen to the album). my teacher from school who listens to everything , including real punk, loves this album. so scott, go listen to some ramones cd over and over again and think about anarchy rather then wasting time writing reveiws for bands who are succesful

Anonymous (May 13, 2006)

Sweetness, this album is sweet! Tom's lyrics show clearly and the gutairs and bass go well together. Drums amazing. 'Cat Like Theif' cool name great lyrics.

Poison_Operation (August 24, 2005)

When I first bought this CD, it was in pretty heavy rotation in my CD player. Then I bought another CD a few weeks later, and started listening to that. I kept buying new CDs from various bands, and didn't break out the Box Car Racer CD for a long time until just recently (about a month ago, to be exact). I popped it into my CD player after reading this review, thinking, "It wasn't THAT fuckin' bad." I guess it was just a phase for me, because this CD made me feel like taking a nap. And they ripped off Alk3 pretty damn bad on "Cat Like Thief," which turned me off pretty quick after I listened to it for the first time in a couple years (when I first bought the CD, I had never really heard of Alkaline Trio, so I didn't know they were getting ripped off). Travis' drumming is the only good thing I remember about this CD, and the drumming alone is not worth the $14 I wasted on this shit-heap.

The day after I played this CD for the first time in a couple years, I sold it to some music store for $6. I'm surprised I got that much for it.


crazytoledo (June 30, 2005)

BCR rips Clutch with their track "I Feel So"

crazytoledo (June 29, 2005)

Anyone relase on the single "I Am" they stol the one guitar riff out of "Impetus" by Clutch.

Every major riff on the BCR song is on the Clutch Song and the Clutch Song is much better!

Anonymous (June 17, 2005)

tab is for idiots. most likely the music you found is incorrect.

Anonymous (April 25, 2005)

Hey its me Whatsername182 and some people might no me from comments on the band Mest(good comments). Now let me say Blink 182 is my favorit band i have loved them from age4. Box Car Racer is awesome so I read a review that was talking about a different band and at the end it said i still hate box car racer. and I want to say to that person that you better keep your name Anonymous or you will get hurt. TOM I LOVE YOU AND THE SONG THERE IS.

TENemorocker182 (July 17, 2004)

This is a great project band that tom and travis put togather. Obviously the review guy is has shit for brains because if he ever did play guitar he would have looked up the tabs for most of the songs and there are almost no songs in drop d you prob. just heard someone say that and wanted to put that on here cause your a dickhead that doesnt know shit about guitar or good bands so go eat out your mom.
Boxcar racer fuckin rocks

Anonymous (May 9, 2004)

Furthermore, the new, self-titled Blink 182 album sounds almost the same as this, and Scott ate that up. I liked the new blink album decently enough, but I didn't think it was better than this.


Anonymous (May 9, 2004)

a lot of people will hate this band for what their image is, just because its related to Blink 182. I know my opinion won't be valid, cause I'm supporting the band here, but I really do like their sound. While the lyrics are lacking at points, the sound is very cool. In any case, I think this album is good, and I feel that I agree with Scott on a lot, showing how music reviews are kinda pointless. But i think this is good.


Tumble_weed (April 6, 2004)

it sounds like blink 182 but with a different name....and luckily it starts with the same letter so you dont have to move far in the music store....but it's pretty good for only $A10 ;)

Anonymous (April 1, 2004)

i enjoyed this cd and i think everyone should stop ragging on blink because they "sold out" they didn't sell out, they just got really popular, and you can't really blame them for that. who cares if its not totally punk, its not like the genre has anything to do with the quality of music.

Anonymous (September 24, 2003)

I am willing to bet that 90% of the people who actualy bought/listened to the whole album, and i mean actually gave it a chance, had something good to say when they posted on here, because it is a great record.... 90% of the negative comments on here are by people who probably hadn't even heard of box car racer, and just found out they were affiliated with blink...ie: your comments are unjustified based on the fact you never fucking listened to the record...

You're only supposed to make a comment if you have listened to the cd and can make some constructive comments. "fuck box car racer cause tom and travis are a part of it, they are sellouts, i haven't heard the cd, i bet it sucks bigger thean the last dick blink 182 sucked." isn't constructive, it just fills up space...

so about the actual cd. It is fucking great. Im not just some big ole blink groupie fuck either, i do like blink 182 a lot, but as far as pop punk goes, it's the only band i really listen too. And i don't just like box car becuase tom and travis are in it. I like box car racer becuase the songs are so well written it's not even funny. Give this record a chance, i had to before i started to like it...

Anonymous (June 29, 2003)

boxcar racer sucks.


Anonymous (June 4, 2003)

I think Box Car Racer's cd is freaking awesome! It's deeper lyrics and cooler guitar playing makes them better then blink. But i still love blink. And to everyone that keeps saying that "there not punk" and all that other crap who really cares?! It's awesome music that i think doesn't need to be caterogized into every little detail, pop punk rock..blah blah blah. They just do there own thing and rock at it. So, to all the losers out there that have very thick skulls let me make it clearer for you NO ONE REALLY CARES WHAT YOU THINK!!!

Anonymous (March 27, 2003)

The following comment should read "This album kicked ass" or "This album was kick ass",
Your choice

Anonymous (March 25, 2003)

This album was kicked ass. First of all, Box Car Racer was Tom and Travis's idea, it wasn't the idea of some MCA suit. They wanted to voice their more serious ideas - like stay together for the kids. Furthermore, I found very little similarties between the song "You've got so far to go" by alkaline trio and "cat like thief". The bass line might sound the same, but it's a fucking bass, how much different can you make it?
I'm sick of all of you "punk police" walking around with an angry face telling people what's punk and what's not.
Do you think Tom Delonge and Travis Barker care whether you think they've sold out or not? As long as you've bought the CD, or you listened to a copy that your friend bought, they've made their money and it doesn't matter what you say.
Last, Blink and it's members haven't changed as much as all of you say they have, "Peggy sue" off of Blink's "Cheshire Cat" CD sounds remarkabley similar to their recent stuff.
They haven't "Sold Out" they've "Made Millions" and that's why I think you guys don't like them.
Fuckin' jealous "punk's"

Sick Of You All

Anonymous (February 6, 2003)

that was the best review ever

Anonymous (December 28, 2002)

Box Car Racer my favorite band in the whole world, this cd is awesome..if you dont have it go get it!

punkboy_1 (December 6, 2002)

this is a more mature offering from tom and i like it. his voice sounds really good to me (not annoying) and his guitar playing sounds pretty good too. travis's drumming is awesome too. cat like thief is a rip off of alkaline trio though.

Anonymous (December 4, 2002)

"Hey ramones, the clash, sex pistols all on major labels..."

What an uneducated guess. The Sex Pistols were kicked around from label to label, until they settled at Virgin Studios, at that time an Indie record company. In fact, if it hadn't been for the Pistols, Virgin would probably have never gotten big. I don't know if thats a good or bad thing, but i still love the Sex Pistols...

AND I STILL HATE BOX CAR RACER. What the hell type name is that any way?

MrVeryDrunk (November 26, 2002)

Blink 182 was a decent pop punk band before Enema of the State. They were fast paced,funny and crude. This is not Blink. This is utter shit. Yes this is even worse then Blinks new albums.

Anonymous (October 27, 2002)

Man I am so fucking punk it's not funny, What do I listen to you ask? I listen to Blink 182, Boxcar Racer, Simple PLan, Mest, MxPx, Good Charlotte, and of course the band who started the punk lifestyle NEW FOUND GLORY! Grow up you fucking retards who actually think that Blink and Boxcar Racer takes talent to make theuir songs. They are a sad excuse for a band. Go cram your pre-pubescent nuts in your mouth and blast your stereo to Boxcar Racer.

Anonymous (September 18, 2002)

this cd is the one of the best! it's not blink-182 at all, just two of them and add a few more guitars and bass players and you got a more deeper and more real-life anthems. I listen to this cd all the time and it's awesome!
Tom's vocals are about the same just in a different mood, while travis durms are better than ever! i recconmend that you get this cd!

Anonymous (September 16, 2002)

to tom and travis: FUCKIN FUNNY AS HELL!

to everyone who is giving scott a hard time: it was a good accurate description of this cd. im a somewhat fan of blink, i gave this a try, and i want my damn money back. admit it~it wasnt too good. and for the record scott mentioned 10,785,391 times that he likes bnlink and wasnt biased.

and finally, to that deutsche bag below me: learn to spell before you make comments.


Anonymous (August 23, 2002)

you guys that dont like blink and boxcar cuz there on MtV need to sut the hl up becusae this is a decent cd and its a decent band, you guys think you r punk experts but i bet most of you odnt know the difference between emo and hardcore, let pepole likee what they want

Anonymous (August 22, 2002)

It's very evident that Box Car does not sound like Fugazi or Refused or any of the other mentioned bands. We all know that but Tom didn't say that. He said that it was influenced by these bands. There's a major difference. Just because you are influenced by a band doesn't mean your songs will sound like theirs. Lots of us have been influenced by Blink, mainly back in the Cheshire Cat and Dude Ranch days, but that doesn't mean we're all going to write songs like these. They simply influenced us. And Yes he ripped off Alkaline but lots of "punk"(even though Box Car isn't) bands rip off other punk bands. Get used to it and deal with it.

Anonymous (August 18, 2002)

I agree with every single word written.

Anonymous (August 9, 2002)

Blahblahblah...all I see in the comments is bitching.

It's simple. If you don't like Blink 182, fine. You probably won't like Box Car Racer. But if you aren't a closed minded shit you'll listen to this CD and see that it actually decent.

Anonymous (August 6, 2002)

Ha! That shit is funny. If either of you are Tom or Travis (which I doubt you are) then I have just have to say...great fuckin job, man! Ditch that stupid Duche bag Mark fuck him. He can't write songs or play bass worth a shit. Man I could play Carousel better than him when I was 13.

Anyway this shit is much better than Blink cus I don't have to put up with that ball licker for more than a few minutes. Tom writes kick ass songs and Travis is the man on drums.

Anonymous (July 28, 2002)

hmmmmmmmmmmm.......this cd was fucken horrible. it wasnt even worth downloading. just another sell-out band that you can read about in a girl magazine.

lolaq (July 5, 2002)

Funny thing... One of the first things that was written in the review was about this CD being more like Blink's "Adam's Song" and the other "deep" songs like that (which, by the way, are not "emo", as was written, but, whatever)... Those are the only Blink songs that I like, so I actually like this album, because I don't have to sit through crap like "All the Small Things". But, whatever, you guys have some lame comments. Grow up.

Anonymous (June 21, 2002)

fuck you Travis, you can kiss my ass and then go put your tights back on and go back to playing for the fuckin Aquabats...chump. respect my fuckin nine and pull you tounge out of Mark's ass you fuckin momma's boy.

Tom DeLonge

Anonymous (June 21, 2002)

oh come off it...this shit fuckin sucks man. i can't carry the fuckin band all by myself. why the fuck do you think Mark didn't want to come along shit for brains. we fuckin suck. you suck more than us though...come on, take your nuts out of the vice and sing like you got a pair.

Travis Barker

Anonymous (June 21, 2002)

all you mutherfuckers are gonna pay...i know where all of of you live, and i'm coming for you. If you dumb-asses would listen to my shit, then you would know that i wrote "i feel so" about you guys. i get sick of taking it up the ass from all you fudge-packin dueshe nozzles. leave me the fuck alone and find someone else to talk shit about...

Tom DeLonge

Anonymous (June 13, 2002)

I can't believe so many people can blindly hate music for it's image, fans, or any other shit they can think of to hate, instead of actually listening to the music. If you are intelligent enough to actually judge this cd on it's music, it's worth buying, but if you are more worried about it's 'punk image' your missing out on a great cd.

Anonymous (June 12, 2002)

I wish you fuckin pussies would grow the fuck up and get over yourselves. All of you are a bunch on no-talent posers who get their kicks out of tearing other people down. I like this fuckin cd...go on judge me for that. If you got a problem then e-mail me: drno122@hotmail.com

Anonymous (June 10, 2002)

I like this album alot, so fuck all you who think that it sucks!

Anonymous (June 8, 2002)

all you poppy butt humpin freaks out there ought to check out something that you haven't seen on mtv or read about in some girly teen magazine

Anonymous (June 8, 2002)

Someday I'm gonna assasinate Tom Delonge for doing this to society.

Anonymous (June 8, 2002)


Anonymous (June 8, 2002)

Do any of you realize that this album is being hated solely because it is bad music, and not a Blink side project?

Anonymous (June 8, 2002)

i think boxcar racer is really rad, and one of the best things that has ever come out of Tom Delonge.

Anonymous (June 8, 2002)

From reading all these comments, I don't think the reviewer was trying to look "more punk" at all. The guy even said he likes Blink... Just accept that he didnt like this album... Do half you idiots even read whats on here or do you just look for stuff to bitch about?

Anonymous (June 7, 2002)

I like the cd,its blink meets a few different styles,keep an open mind-
nothing groundbreaking obviously, but ok. Oldpunker-

Anonymous (June 6, 2002)

Since this is "PUNK"news.org and this band has members of Blink-182, obviously the reviewer is gonna trash it. To mantain there "cred" assholes like Scott do anything so people think they are punk. The whole bull shit about "Cat Like Theif" is ridiculous! Its a good song, with a great guest appearance by Tim Armstrong. And by the way, all of his words come out fine. Someone with an open mind needs to review music, not a punker than thou jackass.

CallingLondon (June 6, 2002)

actually writer of this review does like Blink. if you read the comments, you'd see.

Anonymous (June 6, 2002)

hahasha, yea i hate the 'emo' scene too. bunch of pretentious psuedo intellectuals, acting all withdrawn and introverted, it is grunge all over again. i much prefer the pop punk scene, at least the teenyboppers arent putting on a front.but as for this album, scroll down to my post for my review.kinda funny that i picked up on the alk3 rippoff adn i didnt read teh original review til now.hahaha.good pickup scott.

Anonymous (June 6, 2002)

I really dont give a shit what you guys think about this band i think its good. Let me guess the reivewer of this article hates blink 182 because they are on a major label and are on mtv. Well the ramones, sex pistols, and the clash did the same. You are probley just some fucking grad student emo kid. I think emo bands are good but i hate the fucking scene that comes with it its just like fucking grunge all over again lets all act smarter and more depressed than we actually are.

Anonymous (June 6, 2002)

Oh yea I give this album a 6... but the review gets a 1

Anonymous (June 6, 2002)

Travis' drumming is just incredible. I dont know of a `ny drummer that can match his skills and originality. To all the people that dont like this cd and keep bashing it... dont listen to it! Why do these supposedly "punk" kids that have to make fun of something that is not like themself all decide to read about it on a regular basis. Including you Scott. You are the biggest fake of them all. I have stuck up for you in the past but right now you have done exactly what I hate... make fun of something you dont like in a music review instead of actually reviewing the album. I think you wrote this review with the intent to provide kids with something to bash, meanwhile trying to run a respectable punknews website.. which I admit, until this review was almost respectable with the exception of a few people that just said stupid things but now... you have made "punknews.org webmaster" a laughable title.

sockk (June 6, 2002)

in short, box car racer may be doing to hardcore what blink did to punk

this album has as much to do with hardcore as nickelback has to do with hardcore.

and best band that travis barker has been apart of has been the aquabats, if only for a fleeting moment.

CallingLondon (June 6, 2002)

actually, i'm gonna give this a five. i give these guys credit for trying to improve on their sound. i'm not quite sure why they couldn't just do it in their first band (actually, yes i do, it's because they're afraid of losing their 90 million 12-year old fan base), but atleast they're attempting.

CallingLondon (June 6, 2002)

so i went on over to amazon.com to see how much they were charging for this album, and i looked at the customer reviews. they're hilarious. one of the reviews says "get used to the guy with a funny voice" for cat like thief, referencing to Tim Armstrong for the slow witted. i think that says something about the audience of this album.

Anonymous (June 5, 2002)

"emo" is the most overused (now) mainstream buzzword i have ever heard. it is such a blanket statement that gives you no accurate description of what a band sounds like. christie front drive and the white octave sound just like each other don't they? they're both supposed to be in some emo genre aren't they? half of you are fucking morons. buy a vowel and a new adjective, vanna.
d4 rules. nut up.

Anonymous (June 5, 2002)

props to the reviewer for picking up on that blatant alkaline trio rip off.
how could you write that song, play it for a few friends, go into a studio, make a demo, make another demo, then record it, master it, and then STILL not realize that they ripped off a song that has been stuck on repeat in their cd players for months. fucking dolts.

Anonymous (June 5, 2002)

To the anonymous guy 2 posts down saying that if you like blink you will like this,and if you dont then shut up-amen-oldpunker-

Anonymous (June 4, 2002)

the drumming! as a drummer i will say travis finds a way to make the most elementery riffs sound hard by challenging himself to come up w/ cool beats. dope drumming. again, im out.

Anonymous (June 4, 2002)

first off, i'll never understand why people read and then comment on albums that they know their gonna hate. interested in this album? let me lay it out for u. do u hate blink? if yes, don't listen to this album. its that tom guy u hate. if no, then do u think their serious songs are shitty (adams song, stay together...)? again, don' t listen to this album.
overall this cd aint bad. its heavier at parts and lighter than blink ever gets. the refused, fugazi stuff i don't hear.who cares. tom is not phenomenal. but if ulike blink you'll like this. it gives different variety to blink shit. acoustic stuff. some chorus' are very blinkesqe (track 2 and 6)its a little more serious in lyrics, but not deep or anything.tim sounds drunk on track 5, so thats pretty cool. the riff is an alk 3 ripoff (listen to 'uhave so far to go' for the original bassline/riff) its not bad, its not great. final verdict-if u like tom, want to see more stuff like stay together, then get it. if not fuck off. if u think blink suck, fuck off. if uthink your punk, go pan for change and listen to against all authority or american nightmare or something, bitch about society and politics. go paint an x on your hand. go listen to 'out of step'.go listen to the sex pistols (who were on a major). don't waste your time bitching about fun pop punk bands. or their attempts at something new.i'm otu
paul 'punksaresodamnelitest'

Anonymous (June 3, 2002)

does it surprise anyone that the fiver year old spammer would be reading the review for this cd?

blink and boxcar racer are just bad marketing campaigns... no substance

Anonymous (June 3, 2002)

paul coffey's boss, this album sounds like blink, way to rip off a good band in the trio, blink 182/3 are not emo in any form, never call any of tom's lyrics "brilliant", they sound nothing like fugazi and refused.

Anonymous (June 3, 2002)

i may be mistaken but wasn't "ruby so-ho" the only song (and conveniently the hit single) on "and out come the wolves" that jerry finn did?

even if he did produce that album, his more recent status as the producer of choice of major labels in making bands oh so sugary and listenable kinda tarnishes his name.

Anonymous (June 2, 2002)

Nad says this album sucks balls...........but of course it does its blink 182 :-|
what a pile of shit, nice one scott you jewish bastard!

Anonymous (June 2, 2002)

travis barker is the biggest influence on my drumming, so i guess i could be a little bit biased.

i happened to like the majority of the songs on this cd. the elevator song sucks a lot... the instrumental song could have used a little more variety, a couple more sections, perhaps some silence building up to a giant balls-to-the-wall rock-out part.

in short, box car racer may be doing to hardcore what blink did to punk, but i think if you shake off the elitist in you, you'll find that a lot of the songs are very decent and one could even venture to call them good... and while it may sprout many watered-down versions of the band, there may be a band that uses this music to get them into "more geniuine" bands.

at the very least, listen to the goddamned drumming! IT'S SOOOOOO FUCKING GOOD!

Anonymous (June 1, 2002)

now thats what i call a cool kid

Anonymous (June 1, 2002)

box car racer
is something new
is not really the biggest punk band ever
of course
but i like some songs
and its better than the new shit 182
oh sorry i mean shit 182 oh wrong again
blinkshit 182

Anonymous (June 1, 2002)

Travis licks Tom's balls. That's why Tom allowed Travis to join the band instead of being permanently exiled to the Aquabats, who suck balls A LOT. Now Travis is in Blink and he has groupies who will suck balls for him.

Anonymous (June 1, 2002)

Everyone's so obsessed with the whole "is blink 182 punk" or "is this band emo"..who gives a shit, listen to the damn music, don't label it. Who cares what it is... Box Car is decent, some of the songs sound the same, but they're really good...and if everyone's voice was the same music would suck..tom's voice isn't whiny, it's unique...

Anonymous (June 1, 2002)

oh wow, more followers of the 'lets hate blink182 crew'. yep, im so emo and i hate blink182, anything corporate sucks man, i ONLY listen to underground emo, and drink coffee. here we have a new side project to all express our emotions to, and show how cool we are hating anything to do with blink182.

Anonymous (June 1, 2002)

i like that this boxcar racer thing and blink are even considered punk. rather amusing, what MCA can market as the ever street credible "punk" music.

ApAtHeTiC-BaNd-GeEk (May 31, 2002)

See, A band that used to be punk but went main stream... 2 of the members have decided to start an emo band and scince blink 182 has so many fans, emo may go mainstream now. We just have to hope for the best. Box car racer will gwet much mainstream attention and this is bad. Im sure this will go nowhere.

ludacris (May 31, 2002)

shit like this makes me listen to rap. fuck all yall niggaz.

Vien (May 31, 2002)

Hey scott, did you write this review just so kids can write in on how much it sucks donkey balls? GOOD JOB!

kirbypuckett (May 31, 2002)

emo isn't really defined and for ignorant people wanting to make fun of something it's easy to slap that label on it.

maverick (May 31, 2002)

Okay, for the last time:

STD is watered down pop punk.
Dashboard is just watered down acoustic pop.

Yes, I like both bands. But neither are emo bands [and neither is a New Found Glory, so stop saying they are!].


Scuba7Hood (May 31, 2002)

I agree, other punk bands owe blink and green day alot they opened up the punk scene to the world without them other bands would not be very popular.

Anonymous (May 31, 2002)

I think this is a great cd with a good sound. And whoever toms voice is annoying and to whiny you must not like emo cause I can't think of an emo band where the singers voice isn't whiny. I guess you don't like saves the day or dashboard. But on the cd I think its great and that people are just saying it sucks becuase they are mad at blink for some reason.

Anonymous (May 31, 2002)

I think this is a great cd with a good sound. And whoever toms voice is annoying and to whiny you must not like emo cause I can't think of an emo where the singers voice isn't whiny. I guess you don't like saves the day or dashboard. But on the cd I think its great and that people are just saying it sucks becuase they are mad at blink for some reason.

Anonymous (May 30, 2002)

This cd was pretty damn straight. And for the record, Tom is sexy as hell..


Anonymous (May 30, 2002)

that 10 star rating was unintentional. this album is... bad.

Anonymous (May 30, 2002)

yeah, i'd say tim armstrong deserves "punk icon" status. after all he was in the legendary OpIvy and heads one of the most important punk bands of the 90's. people talk shit about rancid, but hey, they made it big without selling out. more power to em.

Anonymous (May 30, 2002)

yeah the album is SOOOO shit

cool review scott dude :D

Anonymous (May 30, 2002)

Hockey rules... I'd say Coffey goes to the Hall. He was a Wing and the Wings rule. Needless to say, I'm glad we booted his ass and got Brendan Shanahan instead -- Coffey dried up after leaving Detroit. I think he left enough of a legacy before leaving Detroit to warrant the induction. I think most of the Wings' current roster will make it in. Hockey is pretty punk rock, if you ask me. It's like a 60 minute mosh pit. Detroit will win the Cup this year. Box Car Racer is surprisingly good. Don't trash it. It's better than Blink, I think. Musically, I think they did a great job with it.

kirbypuckett (May 30, 2002)

cause leclair brings all his good shit when he plays the penguins, thus the hate. lindros is the worst player ever! i hate him more than the yankees.

Anonymous (May 30, 2002)

The 2002/2003 NHL season will be the year for the Edmonton Oilers just you wait and see...

oh yeah, this album like the last few blink albums would have been better had it been faster...

Anonymous (May 29, 2002)

how in the hell do you hate a player like john leclair? i mean, wow, there are so many other players to hate. tie domi sits at the top of my list. eric lindros is another. dominik 'don't bump into me or i'll whine for days to the refs' hasek. so yeah, don't be hatin.

kirbypuckett (May 29, 2002)

i hate john leclair, but he's had a solid career w/ the exception of after this years olympics.

Anonymous (May 29, 2002)

Fuck Basketball, it's sooo boring!
Fuck Toronto.
Fuck Blink, 182 and 183

nice review btw


wyzo (May 29, 2002)

good review, pretty bland record. When a blink side project is worse than your expectations, something has frozen in hell.


seek (May 29, 2002)

Punk icon Tim Armstrong? heh

evildeadalive (May 29, 2002)

I'm a fan of just about every sport. Not very punk I guess, but who gives a shit.

Kirby - I don't think John LeClair's gonna make the hall.(unless he turns this downward slide he's in around)

Go Avs!
Go Nets!
Go A's!
Go Capriati!

That's all for now.

kirbypuckett (May 29, 2002)

I'm a baseball guy as well (the sn tells you that obviously), but hockey is my number 1 love. I guess being from Pittsburgh I'm a football fan because well the Steelers own.

Anonymous (May 29, 2002)

The biggest mystery in Music. Is Blink 182 punk? What the hell is punk icon Tim Armstrong doing on this album? Why do I like Boxcar Racer so much? This should of been a Blink 182 album. The songs are pretty good and they dont try to preach anything trough their music, its raw. I also like the Drumming. Travis is the best out there as good or better than jordan from Strung Out. Boxcar Racer was produce by Jerry Finn the same bro who produce the best Punk album of the time ...and out come the wolves; so he knows Boxcar Racer can pull it off and they do the lyrics are a little hard to get used to it; I feel that anything tom will sing "she is cool she is hot she is my friend." Why the hell does blink/boxcar like MTV why are they so mainstream? The world may never Know.

BROken fence

ludacris (May 29, 2002)

fuck the boston celtics, go nets!

maverick (May 29, 2002)

I had no idea there were this many hockey fans on the site.

I'm a baseball fan myself.



Anonymous (May 29, 2002)

Boy am I glad I signed on to Hockeynews.org, lets talk about the album again huh go celtics (ha im so funny) but seriously go celtics

kirbypuckett (May 29, 2002)

Paul Coffey played w/ Wayne Gretzsky, Mario Lemieux, Jaromir Jagr, Jari Kurri, Ron Francis, Brian Trottier, Mark Messier, Steve Yzerman, Sergei Federov, Nikalas Lidstrom, John Leclair, just to name a few...Now tell me which one of those guys isn't (if not already) is going to be in the Hall of Fame?

Anonymous (May 29, 2002)

OK Scott, This band is a blink side project but its NOT BLINK. you keep mentioning that they are some sort of rip off or soemthing of blink. They sound nothing like them except for adams song and stay together for the kids. No other blink song has the dark emosound of a lot of this stuff. Also, Elevators has Mark in it, yes, but it IS blink 182, HELL FUCKING NO. Elevators is a boring shit song that blink 182 wouldnt even bother shitting out. even though TOYPAJ was extremely dissapointing I was dissapointed in that song even more almost as much as I was with Cat Like Theif. Im not going to lie and say this album is great but its not the crap you are saying it is. Yea yea, you said it wasnt crap, you said if it was the next blink album it would get a higher rating but guess what, your supposed to review the music based on the music not the music based on the band that put it out. This album deserves no less than a 5 but no more than a 7 because some songs just bore the shit out of me.-pat41

Anonymous (May 29, 2002)

I wouldn't call this bagging the review, I'd like to say some constructive critism.
Less knocking and sarcasm etc. (it was kinda funny cause it's probably true)and more discussion of the sound as the review (much like the Face To Face one) has very little talk of the songs and the sound.

Anonymous (May 29, 2002)

Wow.............I'm so surprised(sarcasm). Of course this album was gonna suck ass- you've got a guy with the most annoying voice in the world (well, maybe the second most annoying, fred dirst's is very bad). His whinney, childish voice already ruins the album- then add on top of that shitty lyrics about heartbreak, etc. etc. and some poor musicianship and that's what this album is- a peice of crap.

evildeadalive (May 29, 2002)

Here's my two cents...

...Paul Coffey was still a decent player, he just wasn't really given the opportunity to do what he could. Given more ice time, more time on the power play, and better players to play with (instead of playing mostly with 3rd and 4th liners and the 6th d-man) i think he still coulda been a 50-70 point guy to wind down is career. If you wanna talk about a guy that shoulda given it up years ago it's Messier.

...Looks like Big Letter Guy is starting to take his game to the next level. I like.

...Stop worrying what all us whiny little bitches are saying Scott. When we get our own websites we'll be able to review whoever we want, however we want, and have everyone bitch at us about how so and so's not punk and how fat we are. I think you're doing a good job, even if I am a whiny little bitch sometimes myself.

...Gotta go with the popular opinion on Boxcar Racer. It doesn't suck because it's Blink 183, it sucks because it's pretending to be something other than just that. (well the music does kinda suck too..)

...Go Avs!!!

...Hurricanes?? What the...?

maverick (May 29, 2002)

10 bucks says I've met Blink 182 before - I've known Mark since 1997 and we've kept in contact somewhat over the years [although not as much in the past few]. I've interviewed him before, I've met all the guys. I don't want their autographs. I like Blink 182 [for the millionth time]. To be honest, this album is not that bad, it's just the way it was presented completely turned me off. That statement Tom made about it sounding like Fugazi, Refused, etc. will continue to come back to haunt them. If this was the next Blink album, it would get a higher rating. Standing alone, it's mediocre. Why? Because side projects are SUPPOSED TO BE DIFFERENT. That's the point of them.


cardhore (May 29, 2002)

Anonymous (May 29, 2002)

nice review, bad commenters

kirbypuckett (May 29, 2002)

ten bucks says that if it wasn't for the kid that reviewed this album this site would have a lot less content. Get off his dick already. i didn't like the review, but I'm not going to sit here and bash him. i was original and irespect that.

p.s. - scott, you look identical to my friend urban...


ludacris (May 28, 2002)

ten bucks says the kid who reviewed this would ask blink for autographs.

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Emo's dying, let the celebration begin

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Yeah Blink 183! Your the best band since punk started back in 1994...wait...you mean punk didn't start in 1994?

fAt mAn

seek (May 28, 2002)

"Josh", if he can't talk "bad" about a band in a fucking music review... well.. do I have to finish this sentence?

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

yeah, this cd is pretty bad. blink trying to be serious is laughable at best. kinda funny that a bunch of NOFX's reject songs are more enjoyable than these "deep" blink songs.

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Scott is the man, like really "Cat Like Thief" is a decent song, but damn that song "I feel so" makes me feel so shitty that I want to vomit.

Blink 182 has a lot of talent, the just forgot how to use it. Blink 182 hasn't put out a good album since "Dude Ranch", deal with it.

Go Detroit.

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

i have never liked you scott. and this just proves your an even bigger asshole. maybe by making fun of blink 182 people on this site will think your cool. if you dont like the music just say so you dont have to bash other band. dumbass


Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

I went and saw Grade last night in Edmonton, and that was way better than any of this Blink 182 shit...go Detroit!

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Go Avs!

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

I thought it was good review, damn funny if you ask me. Also if everyone hates this and scott's reviews so much where are yours,its easy to talk shit when you dont have anything up for people to read. Also they should have never said it would be like fugazi, minutemen, refused thats why people make fun of it, if they said hey it will be more serious like stay together then i think scott and others would cut them some slack. I think they were trying to hard to get some street cred back

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

hahahaha, scott, this one makes up for your face to face review....nice going, good review!

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

The blink-bias/bashing on this site is so hypocritical. If blink wasn't so "big" all you guys would love them,you know it too, so shut the fuck up. " They are on a major label, they are on the radio blah blah blah". Hey ramones, the clash, sex pistols all on major labels...anyway let me get off my soapbox and go onto the CD.
Some songs do sound just like blink182, while others sound heavier and harder and experimental. I agree thought it doesn't sound very much like fugazi, or the refused. Lyrically I think Tom has matured drastically, the lyrics in songs like " and I", " there is" , "sorrow", "the end with you" and "watch the world" are very well though out , and dare I say brilliant at times. " Cat like their" is sorta dissapointing, when I heard Tim from Rancid and Jordan from NFG were gonna lend vocals I was excited, but the song is dissapointing ( and Jordan's vocals seem like they are nowhere to be found). The reviewer is dead on, it sounds very simliar to the Alkaine Trio song. " My first punk rock song" is real cool, Tom's vocals sound awesome really fast. The review for this CD I have to admit was witty, but I think he's being too judgemental. I wouldn't mind if the next blink album sounded similar to this really, I think this is a good piece of music. so shoot me...

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Oh man! These comments are too fucking funny! I'm practically falling out of my chair laughing.

Scott, that was a fine review as far as I'm concerned.


Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Haha Paul Coffey, he was a Flyer far too long after anyone should legally be allowed to play hockey. As for this cd, well, I think releasing it under a side project is lame when this easily could have been a blink 182 cd. I bet they were afraid to experiment with a 'more serious' (oh god, i can't even say it with a straight face, the lyrics are SO trite) sound that might alienate some fans of theirs. Either way, the trio rip off is huge lame and very evident. so yeah, boxcar racer no good.

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Its better that Blink (even though that's not hard to accomplish), but it still nothing impressive.-SaYnE GuY

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

great review...BCR is a bad chardade, do they think people will actually believe that crap is fugazi influenced? it's just blink...and coffey is the bomb - bigjerk

kirbypuckett (May 28, 2002)

I do have a refused record.

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Coffey's best years were easily with the Oilers. 48 goals in one season playing defence no less.

waste_elite (May 28, 2002)

why does everyone bitch and complain about the reviews on this site. people take the time and try to write a decent review of a record for your benefit and you bitch about it. if you don't like the way a review is written, write you're own. otherwise, shut the fuck up. this is a fine example of what's wrong with the punk scene. people are always quick to complain about something but refuse to do anything constructive about it.

i, for one, liked the review.

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Paul Coffey's best years were with the Oilers, of course.

This CD is no good, of course. Dave Kennedy is not small.

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

"Scott, you truly are the Paul Coffey of CD Reviews. You should have retired a long fucking time ago"

That was hilarious....still, i thought it was a good review....come on now, if you actually like this, you don't have any say in what is good music...

and goddamn, i'm glad scott mentioned how much "cat like thief" sounds JUST like "You've got so far to go..."

This cd is pretty terrible....come on "I feel so ANNNNNGGGGGRY!" what is that shit?

Anybody that is sticking up for this album should pick up a refused record instead and see where it's REALLY at...



Anonymous (May 28, 2002)


u fuckin herb

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

I've always thought that this site had somewhat terrible/somewhat tolerable reviews, but now I'm sold! I have never heard of this band before, but from the looks of this review, they sound hilarious! Watch out A&H.P, here comes a new no-talent-ass-rock band! GREATEST REVIEW EVER!!!!

kirbypuckett (May 28, 2002)

I agree his prime was w/ the Oilers but I'm a Penguins fan for life so I gotta say that his prime was in the Black & Gold. Next year the Penguins should be good, aslong as injuries don't fuck us over again.

evildeadalive (May 28, 2002)

I'm a huge Penguins fan, but come on, Paul Coffey's prime was clearly with the Oilers. And he has retired.

... I think the review was pretty good.

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

What a great review

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

wow, who wouldve thunk it, a reviewer for a "punk" site not liking a blink side project. that review was pretty predictable.

tom only said influenced by refused and fugazi, not that it was gonna be a tribute album or a cover album or theirs, or anything like that. all you fucks wanna do is blink-bash. its like how strung out says their influenced by the descendents, yet they don't sound a damn thing like them. quit being retarded

maverick (May 28, 2002)

Thanks for bashing my review.

I'm still waiting for someone else to submit their masterpiece of a record review, let me know when you do.

Until then, shut your fucking mouth.

Also, just to say it, I really do like Blink 182, I have since 1997. I think "Jacket" was lightyears better than "Enema," I think "Chesire Cat" and "Dude Ranch" are fucking great punk rock albums, and I think they're a really good band. This album is just inexcusable - it's boring, it's recycling old Blink guitar and drum parts, and it is *nothing* like DeLonge claimed it would be. Don't claim you're going to sound like the Minutemen, Fugazi, and Refused unless you're really going to sound like them.

Okay, I'm done, let the bashing of my review re-commence.


Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Good review that sums it all up. This record is tripe.

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Utter crap

kirbypuckett (May 28, 2002)

He said Paul Coffey! Holy shit! His prime was w/ the Penguins!

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Scott, you truly are the Paul Coffey of CD Reviews. You should have retired a long fucking time ago.

kirbypuckett (May 28, 2002)

I liked it. I also feel the review was pretty inaccurate at points. The idea was good, it just really wasn't that funny.

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

bad review. good cd. What does it sound like Scott, other than "the emo side of blink". Adams Song and STFTK are completely different sounding songs so that tells us nothing. Lets have more reviews like your promise ring wood/water one and less like this shitty one that bashes a band because their music is like another band that you may not like. Tom and Travis may be on it but this cd is not blink 182, its also not fugazi and refused. This cd rocks except for about 3 songs that kind of bore me. My first punk song rules too.

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Less sarcasm and mocking, more telling us about the sound.

QGJREVIVED (May 28, 2002)

I wasent gonna buy this album in the first place. Its one of those most kids bash without even hearing just cuz it has tom delonge in it. I can honestly say that "i feel so calysed" bullshit isnt worth buying if thats the song that represents the album. Be like me and buy nofx newest cuz u cant play vinyl. Or cuz you dont feel like playing vinyl because its the year 2002 and the only resons bands release vinyls now are to be cool. And maybe u actually wanna rock out in your car kiddies. Hell new technology like audiogalaxy never stopped fatwreck anyway. Just get the song "I gotta Pee" and youll have the best song on the damn thing :D. Anyway, I never like blink and i never will as it will make me feel un-punk in front of my array of mohawked buddys and afterall all that matters is what the mohawks think of us. And besides i feel left out when they all start doing kung fu in the mosh pit and i feel confused like "hey i thought the music slowed down why are we going crazier?!@?" By the way if you look at my advertisment of a kick ass band you wont be sorry

punky (May 28, 2002)

From the stuff that I've heard, they try too hard to sound 'experimental' and 'strange'.But there is nothing new here.And nothing like fugazi or refused. Just Blink emo side. And that guy that posted three comments in a row saying how scoot sucks, well you suck.

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

this cd is super rad any way you look at it, the writer of this, is just jealous that they did'nt think of it, isn't side bands suppose to be just for fun anyways, nevermind, you don't like anything thats any good anyways,

THEme (May 28, 2002)

Don't worry Anonymous, we won't point out the fact that you're a narrow-minded homophobe, but we will point out that you cannot write worth shit. And have a nice day.


Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

scotts gayer them tom

n dont starte with all the close minded homophobe comments casue i could give 2 shits

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

yeah funny scott
u fuckin loser

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

how uncool u r scott

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

You know, I actually like this CD. Although I agree it isn;t entirely not Blink-182. However, don't let MCA and Tom dupe you into thinking that this in any way resembles Fugazi, The Refused...or any other band Tom said this album was a tribute to. The lyrics are definetly the weak point to this album....it still seems to be about girls....Go buy the new NOFX B sides CD it's a better deal

Anonymous (May 28, 2002)


Anonymous (May 28, 2002)

Aren't these the guys from strife and the strike?

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