The interview was conducted by Ariana Rodriguez. The band talks about their past, their new album, On the Western Front and being covered by Slayer on Undisputed Attitude.
There is a very tight association with D.I. and your former band, the Adolescents. The two bands have shared band mates and even song sets. Where does this closeness come from?
Casey: Weíre not trying to sellout or anything, weíve always just been friends. It has never a business; itís just been an underground punk rock vibe. We have never grown apart, and have always just been happy being semi-popular. We never thought we were going to be successful, and now kids from this generation still love the music and weíre still kids in our own head so it just keeps perpetuating in a very strange way.
What makes D.I. different from the Adolescents?
Casey: Besides the singer being totally different style, ÖI donít know, weíre kind of from the same mold. Everyone thatís in D.I. was around when I was in the Adolescents. We all grew up together, so weíre pretty much the same≠- just different faces.
There have been many significant events in D.I.ís career, the first being appearing in the 1984 film, ďSuburbia.Ē Tell me about that experience:
Casey: We were just playing a gig and then Penelope Spheeris (the director) came up and said she was making a movie and asked if we wanted to be in it. So we said yeah and just showed up. We went down there and started filming the scene. It was at Godzillaís, a private club in L.A. and we filmed all the footage there.
What about Slayer doing covers of your songs?
Casey: Kerry King, Slayerís guitarist has always been a punk rocker at heart and heís the one that asked to do it for (their album) ďUndisputed Attitude.Ē I think it was awesome cause these metalers thought that punkers were cool. You know, metalers are kind of arrogant and just to hear them be like Ďyeah, Dr. Know and D.I.í- that was surprising. Even though punk wasnít big, we knew that we were coming correct with being honest about everything: brutally honest. I always knew that it would come back in a positive way and it did.
Casey: Oh, that was cool! That was so great! We found out that D.I. is Jesse Jamesí favorite band and I couldnít believe that! I thought that was awesome. We were on the show and it was great cause there were flying midgets and we got to play Jesseís birthday party. In fact when you watch Monster Garage, you could hear ĎJohnnyís Got a ProblemĒ in the background. They painted our guitars for us, so we were really stoked. Theyíre really cool dudes; just like us but with different faces, again. Weíre really honored to have that happen.
The members of D.I. have been in the scene for a long time, what are some major changes youíve seen?
Casey: People were a lot more unfamiliar with punk rock when it started and everybody was freaked out. The hippies wanted to beat us up and everybody thought we were just junkies or fags. It was more of a challenge to have green hair and now if you look around everyone has green hair so just the social context has changed greatly cause it was just a new fad then and now itís more understood. Itís just more mainstream and itís just gayer now than itís ever been.
Eddie: Iíve seen punk rock become marketable. Back when I was young I actually didnít think Iíd live it to be this old. We were just large and in charge, yíknow charge and forward march. Anything was possible, anything went. These days, Iíve seen bands come back. Itís coming back around to how it used to be but itíll never be what it used to be. But itís here and itís a fuckiní movement!
Joey: The change thatís really interesting to see is the young kids. There are so many Hot Topics and the kids are into punk rock. It wasnít so mainstream back then and you had to go to Black Hole Records to actually access it, but now with MySpace and punk in the malls with the Hot Topic stores, itís a lot more accessible and has gotten a lot more commercial but thereís still a lot of crazy kids out there that wanna tear it up so itís definitely a different crowd. Itís a different scene with all the younger kids wanting a piece of the old action.
Chckn: Punk rock hasnít really changed, I think the people that listen to punk rock have changed. Itís a dynamic that no one couldíve seen coming. A lot of people whine Ďoh, punks not what it used to beíí Ė of course not, stupid your fuckiní face isnít the same, either! Nothing is ever the same, ever. So, sure a lot of it has gotten commercialized but so what- that happens. We play shows and see little kids 12 years old, singing the lyrics to our songs. Itís fuckin great! I donít get it when people complain. They should go turn metal or something, get the fuck outta here!
Clinton: Itís kind of come full circle. I was into it as a kid. It never really faded out but itís more mainstream now which is good and bad. Good for bands like us cause kids that are younger can be exposed to our music. Anyone can access the Internet and listen to our songs without having to go to a record store. They can watch a video. Basically see the whole thing without even being there and make his own choice on whether he wants to take it or not.The negative side would be the over saturation. Everybodyís in a band.
Is Punk Dead?
Casey: No way! Iíve been in two major movies about punk in the past year: ďPunkís Not DeadĒ and ďAmerican Hardcore.Ē
Eddie: Well, weíve always been here! We havenít gone anywhere. People would consider punk dead cause everyone grew out their hair and started wearing flannels, but it just migrated into different scenes. Thatís what people do. Itís changed.
Tell me about the new members of D.I.
Casey: Weíve just always been friends from the neighborhood and Eddie and Joey Tater lived down the street. Everyone from D.I. went to the same high school as me. Eddie and Joey went to the same jr. high school so we go back to about the 6th grade. When I was in Social Distortion and the Adolescents, Eddie and Joey would always go the gigs or house parties, so everyone thatís in D.I. was there all the time, no matter if they were in the band or not. They know everyone that ever was in D.I. In fact, Brad and Louis of the Kottonmouth Kings used to be in a band called ďDoggystyleĒ back when we were all kids. Brad used to live down the street from me, too. We were all hanging around since way back. Everyone in D.I. knows Brad and Louis from back then. They used to live in Placentia and we lived in Fullerton. So yeah we all went to the same high school, except for Chickenhead he got kicked out and had to go to continuation. We all went to Troy High School. Since day one, weíd all hand out. Weíd have parties and set up Social Distortion right in peopleís living room.
To the newest members of D.I., when did you officially join D.I. and how has the experience been so far?
Eddie: Late 2001, but I go way back. Iíd jump in to play for D.I. throughout the years but itís been more constant over the past couple of years up until this point. The experience has been exhilarating.
Clinton: Iíve been in the band since 2001.
Joey: Iíve been in the band for about 3 Ĺ years. Itís been great. Itís strange to see the resurgence of kids wanting to hear punk rock from Orange County punk. Itís really popular again.
Chckn: I was in D.I. back in 1998 and played a few shows with them and then I rejoined in early 2000. The experience is a blast. Iím in D.I., a band that Iíve loved since I was a kid. Itís a natural progression of things to go from hanging out with them to being in the band.
What was it about D.I. besides your friendship with Casey that made you want to join?
Eddie: Iíve been in the punk scene for about 23 years and D.I.ís always been a great part of the punk rock movement, a pillar in the punk rock community. I grew up with D.I., Iíve been around D.I. a lot and itís just in my blood. So to be a part of that in a different phase of the line up is really great. It seems right. Weíre bringing it all back home to the members of Fullerton, to those that were a part of the early punk rock scene.
Joey: Casey and I had been in and out of bands and we went to the same high school back in the early punk days. We did it then and now we get a chance to do it again. Itís a different year, and the musicianship- weíve all gotten tighter so the shows are really fun to play. Weíre all Fullertonians that have sort of kept D.I. alive in the old style way.
Chckn: Casey and I have worked really hard to put D.I. back in a position where we could play a lot and the current lineup clicks really good. Eddie writes great lyrics and Casey and I write really well together. Itís working out really good and happy with how things are going.
Clinton: The music. I was a big DI fan before I joined the band.
Chickenhead,Ö how did you get your nickname?
Chckn: Oh, I got that name when I was like 19 or 20. We used to play drunk punk rock baseball in the park and I used to have these Mohawks. I was too drunk to hit the ball. I kept swinging and missing it and then someone yelled, ďhit the ball you fuckin chickenheaded motherfucker!Ē I used to hate it but now Iím kind of partial to it.
Tell me about the new album.
Eddie: Itís been a lot of work forthcoming. I think the writing a record was sort of challenging. D.I. has a certain profile and anyone can write music but some of these songs I wrote quite some time ago. I had a whole memoir of songs and when I got together with Casey and started to come up with choruses to songs, everything just fell into place.
Joey: This new record sounds very 80s-esque. Eddie, my brother did a lot of the writing and it sounds like these songs are from that time frame and it wasnít such a big change to hear.
Chckn: D.I. turned up the temp! One thing I was really disappointed with bands from our era, I mean I love them, theyíre great friends but it just seems like Iíve been disappointed with their latest releases, they sounds tired and kind of nice. Thatís why it took us so long to release this record. Weíre really picky, weíre not just gonna release anything and just be like Ďwell theyíll love it cause its us.í I wanted to make sure it was heavy and angry. Just being pissed off, Ďfuck youí punk rock!
Clinton: We tried to capture the old sound of D.I. with new songs. We stayed true to D.I. without trying to be overproduced or change the format of the band.
What was the record inspired by?
Casey: Itís just a persecution of the modern California citizen. Similar to communism, our political state has become a little invading on everyoneís privacy and we feel that itís not a free country if youíre just being persecuted and searched for no reason. The prison system doesnít care about anybody. They get money for just holding bodies. Theyíre just trying to get their dough so theyíre trying to get people in trouble so itís a hypocritical system and this album just tries to combat that unfairness.
How is the new album different from previous ones?
Casey: I think it just sounds the same, pretty much. Thatís who we are, and thatís all we know how to do, is be ourselves! It just seems that now we have the obligation and the ability to make some pertinent comments about society because weíre role models now. Thereís a lot of people that are going to listening to us, so I think we were able to go over the edge a little and talk about things that are a little more controversial now like prison reform. We have the ability to bitch more and thatís fun.
Joey: Each song has a story and it sounds like vintage Orange County punk rock but obviously from the year 2007. I like that it has that feel to it. That early sound had a lot of harmonics; even the Offspring uses a lot of harmonics when they play. The songs are pretty diverse, every oneís is very well thought out. Itís catchy, itís got something for that young skater punk today and it also has that heavy feel. It has something for everybody. Thereís a lot of stuff people can grab onto.
How long did it take to work on the record?
Casey: It took a few years cause we wanted every song to be perfect and let every one in the band agree cause itís important that everyone give their input. It took a while but itís definitely the best album put out by D.I. and Iím really excited about it.
How has your experience been as part of the Suburban Noize family and how is it different from other labels?
Casey: Weíre a family of different sounding music but weíre closer than labels that have music from the same genre. Itís great. Hed Pe and Mondo Generator are excellent bands. Itís a total brotherhood. Itís great to be on this label.
Eddie: Hooking up with Suburban Noize was great and talking with Brad X, Iíve known Brad for years. I remember him from early early days in Placentia when he was with ďDoggystyleĒ which was a great band. Brad has always been Brad X. Heís bad! So hooking this new CD up with Suburban Noize was great for a number of reasons. Bradís one of us so thatís really cool. Itís not just gonna go to some random label that doesnít know anything about us. Brad actually is a part of the punk rock movement, has been for years and he has our best intentions at hand. We totally trust him and it brings it full circle for us, having someone that knows who we are and what weíre about thatís dealing with us.
Joey: The time in the studio was the smoothest time Iíve ever had. I loved it. We recorded in many different locations, over a period of a year and a half. Itís always stressful in the studio so it depends on whom you work with thatíll make it go smoothly or not.
Clinton: Working in the studio was awesome. Weíve known Brad for a long time so it was a comfortable situation.
Chckn: Brad was a fuckin kook just like he is now! We ended up backing KMK during a show and one thing led to another! Nothing personal, but labels like BYO- it just seems like thatís where punk bands go to die, a punk rock cemetery. Itís a trip cause itís two musical cultures and it proves that good things can happen when you put your mind to it.