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Media: Propagandhi: "Supporting Caste"

Contributed by MN_punkmaster-skaman. Posted by aubin on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 at 3:00 PM (EST)

Propagandhi have posted a stream of their new full length. The record is titled Supporting Caste and is due out March 10, 2009. It is the follow up to 2005's Potemkin City Limits.

You can check out the album on their myspace page.

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FelixT (March 3, 2009)

Wow there IS a God.

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Scarysmurf (March 3, 2009)

Dont kid yourself.

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ChadReligion (March 3, 2009)

the review of this in the new vice magazine is hilarious

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FelixT (March 3, 2009)

Could you scan it? Or just post some hilarious bits?

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ChadReligion (March 3, 2009)

PROPAGANDHI
Supporting Caste
Smallman
“Clever” titles, “melodic” singing, and totally restrained pop metal come together to form a boring record full of the kind of songs that you hear in a movie theater before the previews. This band treats punk like a shitty job where its members are dragging themselves to the job site and counting the minutes until they get to go home and drink and eat their Hungry Man dinners while furiously beating their wives.

RICK CRAZIN

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lintsay (March 3, 2009)

Oh lawd. My eyes hurt from all the rolling.

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ChadReligion (March 3, 2009)

I wonder if the reviewer took into consideration that these guys are gay

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lintsay (March 3, 2009)

Ugh.

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the_problem_with_fire (March 3, 2009)

they're straight, but, ugh... i guess it doesn't matter either way. they are very supportive of gay rights.

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ChadReligion (March 3, 2009)

are you sure they are????

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ZombieCrush (March 3, 2009)

THey said so in the special bonus crap on Todays Empires. Stick the thing in your Compy-comp and viola!

I do have to admit though this album does sound a little "meh". I really miss the LTMR style. Maybe I have to see it live before this album sets in for me. I am disappointed in it though. Time will tell.

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MisFit4Me (March 4, 2009)

How to Clean Everything was way less metal. I liked it. Now all their new songs sound the same, nothing's sticking out.

The Weakerthans > New Propagandhi

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Banal242 (March 3, 2009)

Is hitting women part of Godwin's Law yet?

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Laurier (March 4, 2009)

Did Hitler beat Braun?

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Babrook (March 3, 2009)

Oh lord.

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the_problem_with_fire (March 3, 2009)

i can't tell if this "review" is serious or not... if it is, then what a waste of paper. If it's not then it's seriously uninformed.

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acris (March 3, 2009)

vice doesn't have an opinion on music

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StuckInBielers (March 4, 2009)

Vice IS hipsterdom, their whole schtik is that their massively obnoxious and offensive for no reason.

"Look, its an article about the thai sex industry next to a trendy Puma advert, your mum wouldn't approve."

Fuck em

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lintsay (March 3, 2009)

I love you.

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ffwoodycock (March 3, 2009)

hopefully the stream has the hidden track

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Seanith (March 4, 2009)

Come! Come! Come to the Sabbat!

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Laurier (March 4, 2009)

Satan's There.

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MN_punkmaster-skaman (March 3, 2009)

Ooooooh yeeeeeah!!

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badbrain (March 3, 2009)

anal bum of the yar

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MN_punkmaster-skaman (March 3, 2009)

A penis mighter for $500 please, Alex

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24HourPriapism (March 3, 2009)

yeah, i'll take the ehhhh, the ape tit thing for uhhhh...10 grand.

it's a big hat, it's funny.

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baldsteve (March 3, 2009)

Anal Bum Covers for 200

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MN_punkmaster-skaman (March 3, 2009)

Jap Anus Relations

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ffwoodycock (March 3, 2009)

Famous Titties for 1000
Who is Dolly Parton?

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24HourPriapism (March 3, 2009)

only on account o' yer DAILY DOUBLES, ye BRIGAND!

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baldsteve (March 3, 2009)

So good

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lintsay (March 3, 2009)

The rapist for $200.

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soundforlanguage (March 3, 2009)

And I see that Burt Reynolds has changed his name to Turd Furgeson...

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24HourPriapism (March 3, 2009)

supporting caste leaked.

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Evil_Dead (March 3, 2009)

Yeees!

Wait, so they DO have a MySpace?

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thegimper (March 3, 2009)

I read this as, It is the follow up to 2005's Pokemon City Limits.

That would have been a much better album title.

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KillThePatriarch (March 3, 2009)

You forgot to mention how good PCL was.

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carrymeoutlaw (March 3, 2009)

I haven't been reading much about these guys lately, so I wasn't expecting this at all.

Probably the best "surprise news" like that since Thorns of Life videos were posted.

And I thought I was having a good day before I read this.

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badbrain (March 3, 2009)

Being on this site I would think it'd be harder to avoid the leak of this album than to not. Or something

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eazyd2 (March 3, 2009)

what is so good about this band?

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usversusthem (March 3, 2009)

Everything?

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lintsay (March 3, 2009)

Pretty much.

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baldsteve (March 3, 2009)

The joy of Iron Maiden covering a Howard Zinn book on tape.

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eazyd2 (March 3, 2009)

sounds enthralling

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MN_punkmaster-skaman (March 3, 2009)

The fact that they started out as a generic skate punk band with a political message on Fat Wreck Chords and finally changed their sound up on Potemkin City Limits.

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badbrain (March 3, 2009)

I think the sound change really came on Todays Empires

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MN_punkmaster-skaman (March 3, 2009)

The hardcore aspect, but they didn't have anything on their like "Cut Into The Earth".

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LinoleumMagazine (March 3, 2009)

There aren't really any slower Todd songs like that on this new record.

That's my only major complaint.

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BarleyPat (March 4, 2009)

That's the only thing I DIDN'T like about PCL. Agree to disagree.

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deadXlast (March 3, 2009)

I got into em because they were a Fat skate band, but they have a lot more depth than that. They're great writers, and the lyrics are intense and direct.

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SloaneDaley (March 3, 2009)

I dunno but they are the only Fat skate punk type band I ever really enjoyed at all.

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JustLikeDelilah (March 3, 2009)

The fact that you're not in it. SICK BURN!

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donny (March 4, 2009)

absolutely nothing, this album is pure shit

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bassthoven (March 5, 2009)

don't do what donny don't does

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eazyd2 (March 3, 2009)

worth paying $120 (like US $80) to see Madness?

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baldsteve (March 3, 2009)

I love Madness, I'd say yes. Who else are they playing with?

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eazyd2 (March 3, 2009)

some band called "Support"

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baldsteve (March 3, 2009)

You are too much. I hope you have a moustache.

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LinoleumMagazine (March 3, 2009)

I picture a young Crocodile Dundee.

Actually that's how I picture all those goofy Australians.
And when will they learn to speak American like normal people?

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MN_punkmaster-skaman (March 3, 2009)

If it's a majority of the original members or all, then yes.

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LinoleumMagazine (March 3, 2009)

As long as it's most of the original members (lead singer is a must) then I'd go in a heartbeat.

I bet when Eazy goes to a show he gets up front and starts yelling about cunts and faggots.

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eazyd2 (March 3, 2009)

wrong. except at guttermouth shows

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LinoleumMagazine (March 3, 2009)

Rupert Murdoch and Fox present a stream of the new Propagandhi album...

and I heard they used to eat meat when they were kids. Hypocrites.

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MN_punkmaster-skaman (March 3, 2009)

I laughed. Can someone explain the whole FOX and myspace deal?

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miniblindbandit (March 3, 2009)

there was a really good piece on murdoch in last october's vanity fair.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/10/wolff 200810?printable=true¤tPage=all

you get a pretty good picture of what he's really like from it.

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10-4Eleanor (March 3, 2009)

Animal rights is just another religion.

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breakout (March 3, 2009)

I used to like them 'till I heard they were gay

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joemomma420666 (March 3, 2009)

All they do is party and get low=ded.

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LinoleumMagazine (March 3, 2009)

My friend saw you guys at the Triple Nickle and he said you were "that D4 / Hot Water Music style punk".
I'd take that as a complement.

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10-4Eleanor (March 3, 2009)

Any old day of the week.

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LinoleumMagazine (March 3, 2009)

I have yet to hear you guys because my laptop is a virus filled piece of crap that I don't like to open and I can't access myspace at work.

But I'm intrigued.

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10-4Eleanor (March 3, 2009)

I hope you'll enjoy it, but I don't think the demo recordings really do us justice. The full length is being mixed even as we speak, though.

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kencollapse (March 3, 2009)

They're playing with the Bad Brains on the 5th. How sweet will that show be?

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ffwoodycock (March 3, 2009)

"soul" brains will probably cancel. with HR leaving a humerous answering machine message.

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MN_punkmaster-skaman (March 3, 2009)

Hallelujah!! See you laaaaater.

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ffwoodycock (March 3, 2009)

haha, that part is so creepy.
i also like how they just change the first 3 digits of the phone number, so its easy to figure out.

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MN_punkmaster-skaman (March 3, 2009)

I just love it that they some how know Sib Hashian from Boston.

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ffwoodycock (March 3, 2009)

oh yeah, that was so random. i forgot about that.

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MN_punkmaster-skaman (March 3, 2009)

If only I could be at Harvest of Hope to watch that one stage all day with Propagandhi, Against Me!, Bad Brains, the Bouncing Souls, Strike Anywhere, Valient Thorr, Paint It Black, and None More Black

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ChadReligion (March 3, 2009)

sounds too good to ever hit the west coast

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jibber (March 3, 2009)

Propagandhi is playing with Bad Brains? Really? I remember years ago, seeing them, and Chris went on a big rant about fuck anyone who supports Bad Brains, for being homophobic rasta assholes.

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LORDSHREDDER (March 3, 2009)

I am definitely loving this album! Good job again, boys!

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mikexdude (March 3, 2009)

Holy shit, I haven't seen you in forever.

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clamXtears (March 3, 2009)

Where the fuck have you been? Look! I got an 'X' in my name now!

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Seth_Uber_Alles (March 3, 2009)

No surprise that this album is amazing. Probably album of the year. I FUCKING LOVE THIS BAND.

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ChadReligion (March 3, 2009)

PROPAGANDHI
FROM VICE MAGAZINE

Supporting Caste
Smallman
“Clever” titles, “melodic” singing, and totally restrained pop metal come together to form a boring record full of the kind of songs that you hear in a movie theater before the previews. This band treats punk like a shitty job where its members are dragging themselves to the job site and counting the minutes until they get to go home and drink and eat their Hungry Man dinners while furiously beating their wives.

RICK CRAZIN

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badbrain (March 3, 2009)

I'm assuming that review is being facetious. If not, major negative repercussions are due for the writer

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mikexdude (March 3, 2009)

But WHO do they SOUND like?!!?!?!?!?

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kencollapse (March 3, 2009)

I stopped reading Vice when they started attempting to write 'bad ass' reviews of video games.

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kencollapse (March 3, 2009)

And for that matter, Vice loved Against Me's New Wave.

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hooges (March 3, 2009)

Is this a joke? Is he listening to the right album?

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PhillipIck (March 3, 2009)

Rick must be offended. Fag.

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deadXlast (March 3, 2009)

Hahahaha, I'm gonna subscribe.

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airick218 (March 3, 2009)

iteration > last will and testament

the only let down of the album is the last track (not hidden)

who knows maybe it will groe on me

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badbrain (March 3, 2009)

Iteration > a lot of things

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MacbethMystery (March 4, 2009)

I am also a little bit disappointed with track no. 10. "Iteration" was an awesome closer for PCL, and when I read "oh shit, 15-odd minutes for just 1 song", I was so fucking stoked to hear a really epic piece of music. "Last Will & Testament", however, is just decent. Along with Todd having no slower songs on the record, it's the major letdown of the album. Anything else is simply amazing, though.

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MacbethMystery (March 4, 2009)

I meant no 12., sorry.

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miniblindbandit (March 3, 2009)

i like this more than pokemon city limits.

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mikexdude (March 3, 2009)

Good, I'm not the only one who thought of that.

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hellxblazer (March 3, 2009)

I didn't much care for PCL. This is way better. Not album of the year, but I wasn't really expecting that.

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popquizkid27 (March 3, 2009)

I still can't get into anything after "Less Talk, More Rock." That album was perfection to me.

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rugget (March 3, 2009)

agreed

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airick218 (March 3, 2009)

eh time will tell

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psychosis_cheer (March 3, 2009)

I've heard they joined the "Stop Cursing Club".

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Seth_Uber_Alles (March 3, 2009)

Definitely not. F-bombs all over on Supporting Caste.

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FuckYouOiOiOi (March 3, 2009)

so did the casualties

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Windfall (March 4, 2009)

great post/name combo.

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Citizen_Crack (March 4, 2009)

Clearly you are unaware of who you are speaking to.

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Trauma16 (March 3, 2009)

Album of the year.

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Chupachup_Punk (March 3, 2009)

Album of the next few years till they release the next new one : )

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iconoclast (March 4, 2009)

agreed.

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rugget (March 3, 2009)

five words

today's empires tomarrow's fuckin ashes

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Hayman (March 3, 2009)

It's awesome. Good times, great band.

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Tahoejeff (March 3, 2009)

I think this album is great. It has a little something for everyone here. The musicianship and production are fucking incredible and this album actually has melody, something that I feel has been lacking recently. I think there's a couple songs that would fit perfectly on LTMR. Anyhow, definitely liking it more than PCL

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Jaydischord (March 3, 2009)

To me its this is the best since,lees talk more rock......ive had this for the last month too,if there were a private message option id share a little secret.....good album.

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chicagopunker (March 3, 2009)

Man this record is fucking incredible! Great guitar riffs, great melody, sick drumming...wow.

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SumWon (March 3, 2009)

This album is actually boring me a bit. And it sounds NOTHING like Less Talk. It sounds like an extention of Potemkin, which still bores me a bit. That gives me a bad feeling about this one's 'grower' potential.

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Citizen_Crack (March 3, 2009)

After one album I like the album, but don't love it. That's how I felt about PCL though, which turned out to be a grower. After one listen though, "Banger's Embrace" is easily my favorite song. What're everyone else's favorites?

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SumWon (March 3, 2009)

I like the title track of the last album the best after one listen.

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Big_Guy (March 3, 2009)

Without Love

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lintsay (March 3, 2009)

That song kills me.

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Since94 (March 3, 2009)

I agree after one listen "Bangers Embrace" but I know that will be one of first of many on the lp

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airick218 (March 3, 2009)

city limits by far

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EZ3 (March 3, 2009)

tertium non darfur

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mondogeko (March 3, 2009)

its like field of dreams and Chris Hannah is Kevin Costner

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BarleyPat (March 4, 2009)

I'm watching TV and there is a Transplants song on a commercial. Here's the kicker. It's NOT Diamonds and Guns (Whoo ooooo). It's that " I............Want........It..........All..........." song.

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IAmJetBlack (March 4, 2009)

I wish more of these songs sounded like Nation States. I could listen to that song a million times over and still dig it.

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dlangl4 (March 4, 2009)

Great stuff. Listening to this now for the first time and am going to preorder tomorrow

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StrizzMatik (March 4, 2009)

Best record since Today's Empire's by a mile. And really, fuck their old shit compared to their last three. Great albums for their time but I'm so good on the NOFX clones.

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KevinJamesSuperFan (March 4, 2009)

I don't get evertone complaining bout how this sounds nothing like Nation States...wht's his name left years ago to form the Weakerthans and Todd joined as the new bass player.

It was always evident that the other two dudes wanted to play heavier thrash influenced stuff, but the sensitive Weakerthans dude was just a weird fit. Good for him doing his own thing, but he couldn't have been more out of place and they've sounded nothing like that since he left. Todd's songs are straight up old school hardcore/ thrash and chris's are like a meoldic thrash and that started the moment the weakerthans dude left.

If you want to hear that old sound, than listen to early Weakerthans album. I don't think that these guys have any interest in revisiting that era and they're all the better for it.

They hae a realy unique sound, like a mix of thrash and

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BarleyPat (March 4, 2009)

Glad I'm not the only one who hears some Rush influence. I love Rush more than any man should. Fuck the haters.

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iconoclast (March 4, 2009)

i listen to the old albums all the time, however, their last three albums have taken "punk" to a fucking brilliant new level of creativity.

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the_problem_with_fire (March 4, 2009)

Well said.

I love John and the Weakerthans but he just didn't fit with Prop's sound well.

HTCE is my least favorite Prop release and LTMR is one of my favorites, they are still very worthy of listening to but I would hate to hear them regress back to that sound.

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raytmc (March 4, 2009)

sick sick album.

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MickeySkullz (March 4, 2009)

Fuck i love this band. Dear Coach's Corner is amazing...actually the whole album is.

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MickeySkullz (March 4, 2009)

Fuck i love this band. Dear Coach's Corner is amazing...actually the whole album is.

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bassthoven (March 5, 2009)