hit or miss was a good song some of their songs are okay even though i really dont like this genre of music. its decent

OMG OMG OMG evil people I agree with comment below cuase NFG is so cool. BUT this album or shall i say band comes a littel after Alkaline Trio.

I love you guys. They are so cool. I mean after a while his voice gets annoying but if you take a break its really good. Like This album is my favorite cuase the song Singled Out. LOVE IT. But everyone has there own thought so i respect that.

Nothing gold can stay is a good album, but this is crap, and all goes downhill from there.

acting like morons?! that is some funny shit

i can't believe you just said 'first debut album'..

and techinically, 'nothing gold' wasn't released on a major....

the cd is ok, but they have a pic of a couple of 12 year olds making out inside the cover. it just kills it.

"Now, if you decide you have enough time and patience to sit through 20 something more minutes of it, you can hear the band act like morons at the end. They pretty much say stupid things like “There’s someone in your house….AHHHHH” and various other dumb things. It’s really not worth all the time to get to it though, so use your trusty fast forward trick if you must hear it."

NO NO NO bitch. thats no way to ruin a good secret song. that scared the shit out of me when i first head it. i thought the cd player was off in my car and then i head someone scream and i almost died. the end.

I really enjoyed nothing gold can stay, s/t got old real quick and I really agreee with this review. I think this cd was a disappointment even for nfg fans.

even there self-titled one was poser shit

This album is basically why I stopped liking this band. That and I got tired of their self-titled album.

New Found Glory is one of the worst whining poser punk band out there.

I have a a simple 2 step plan that everybody should follow in order to get rid of New Found Glory and their fans.

1) Find somebody that likes New Found Glory.

2) Punch him in the face.

...i actually meant to rate this album 3 stars, not 5.

"This music is so cheesy. I dont know how anyone outside of high school can listen to this crap. Do we need any more ass-grabbin songs about immature relationships? WHaaah whhaan sob sniff.. my girlfreind broke up with me... im so sad... I see her at a party.... she kissed another guy... Im so jealous.... shut up pussy"

I can see how someone outside of high school could listen to this "crap". I don't know about you, but it hurts when someone breaks your heart. If that's never happened to you, then i can see how you couldn't relate to this music. Some of us aren't as lucky...

On last thing, why are you against people revealing the way they feel? Why are you trying to prove your masculinity while degrading others?

i hate this album and i hate this band. that's the final word. out.

ya there ok saw them in conceert before they were known they werent too bad but they dont impress me but im not going to critisize them them just because they arent the voids or anti-flag they have talent, its good stuff just not what im into

this band is a fucking joke. i mean cheesy emo pop shit, and fat bass player who makes silly faces...umm, no thanks, i think i'll pass

I have been trying to see what the big deal about this band is... ive really been trying like really hard ive been listening to their songs reading their lyircs and doing some research on them...and i just cant see the big thing about them i really cant... these guys blow... hardcore the only soong that is quite decent is Head on collision but the rest i just cant deal with... ive listened to so many of there songs and tried to comprehend why people like them. And i camt the conclusion that people like them because they want to be them because these guys do it for chicks nothing else not for the love of the music just chicks... and thats why half of the kids in my school are running around wearing T-shirts and covering there songs. Well i suggets all you new found glory fans fuck off... cuz they suck.

i hate new found glory.. they do it for chicks... people are runnning aroun saying how good they are. they arent good. i wish they would just go away forever i really hate them a lot.

"also, u make fun of emo because it is just some shity boy band that sings abut girls and such. well who fucking cares, its not their fault that they are not homos that dont get girlfriends and sit and listen to crap that is dead while thinking how cool it is that they are an outcast and that they will never stop being an "old school punker" even though they just started listening to that music last week
and with that said....nfg is the shit
same with pretty much all the "emo shit""

So now you're homophobic? Go complain about you and your "emotional" issues elsewhere. What does that have to do with New Found Glory?

"this goes out to all you old school punkers
we all have opinions, we are not one sided bastards who listen to shit that is dead and walk around in the summer wearing leather all over and making sure that your hair is a perfect spike so that u can be "independent""

Go fuck yurself. NFG fans are in no place to attack people about indviduality, cos their music has no cause. Does New Found Glory once say anything against the establishment, the system, or even the fucking status quo? Fuck no, so go suck cock. I like old punk and I dont wear a Ramones uniform, dumb ass.

It actually DID change my mind about them. I've hated these guys for a long time.

This CD in general is shit. All their other stuff i can DEAL with

NFG bites.

This music is so cheesy. I dont know how anyone outside of high school can listen to this crap. Do we need any more ass-grabbin songs about immature relationships? WHaaah whhaan sob sniff.. my girlfreind broke up with me... im so sad... I see her at a party.... she kissed another guy... Im so jealous.... shut up pussy.

this goes out to all you old school punkers
we all have opinions, we are not one sided bastards who listen to shit that is dead and walk around in the summer wearing leather all over and making sure that your hair is a perfect spike so that u can be "independent"
just because some band was recognized doesnt mean the suck, they are still making the same damn music they always have, only now more people listen to it.
also, u make fun of emo because it is just some shity boy band that sings abut girls and such. well who fucking cares, its not their fault that they are not homos that dont get girlfriends and sit and listen to crap that is dead while thinking how cool it is that they are an outcast and that they will never stop being an "old school punker" even though they just started listening to that music last week
and with that said....nfg is the shit
same with pretty much all the "emo shit"

This is a kick ass album with songs that are fuckin catchy as hell. They are gonna be big. Their song writing has definately matured. The only thing I don't like is how other people are trying to be like them.

I just don't understand ... I'm 33 years old, listening to punkrock for something like 20 years now ... am I the only person around who loves all these bands that have been mentioned here? I like NFG, Dashboard Confessional, Saves The Day as much as I like NOFX, Black Flag, Anti-Flag, Bad Religion, Thursday and everything that is supposed to sound cool for any of the parties here ...
I feel like I'm the only lucky person on earth to experience this feeling when going through this board.

Anyway, this disc is indeed not as good as their first, but better then their S/T. Which still leaves me listening to it, until it grows old on me. This could be quick, it could take long. How in hell could I know this before it actually happens. I'll probably put on some Queers-stuff when it does, or maybe listen to some Thrice, or some Something Corporate or grab back to my old Descendents, Jawbreaker and Husker Du stuff. I think it all just has to do with involvement. I happen to feel involved with the entire punk-scene (and don't start shouting that this scene has died) which for me NFG is definitely a part of, no matter how they are promoted or what label they are signed to. They weren't just picked randomly to be where they are now. I'm pretty sure of that.

"u little kids don't know anything- politics should be burned it only causes bullshit- in a world without bullshit there are no problems. Everything would be straight, decisive and brutal- the weak would be forced to get stronger and the ignorant would be killed."

politics cannot be completely done away with, it is a natural extension of humanity. seriously, as long as there are human beings living on this planet, there will be politics. people will have opinions, people will agree, people will disagree. there is no avoiding this.

that post was a little fascist there bud. chill.

NOFX is pretty easy compared to led zeppelin, radiohead, metallica. Most punk is easy comparitive to bands like these. Thats all I'm saying

u little kids don't know anything- politics should be burned it only causes bullshit- in a world without bullshit there are no problems. Everything would be straight, decisive and brutal- the weak would be forced to get stronger and the ignorant would be killed.

anarchy and punk? hahahahahaha ahem well when i was 13 (no offense to the 13 year old friends out there, it's just a number) i used to think that if you want to be punk, you have to believe in anarchy. hahahahahaha uhuk ahahaha.

well, now i'm uhm just 4 years older and now i'm pretty sure punk is NOWHERE like anarchism. wait ha, then again these days there are all these different kind of punks heh like pop punk emo punk hardcore punk crust punk gay punk jew punk. i mean if you look at it from the general view that a lot of people would agree on (hopefully), punk is about rebelion against, well, things (depends on what type of punk, pop punk rebels against moms, emo against love, political against government, ya know what i'm talking about). but anarchy does not necesarily mean "going against something". anarchy is basically about creating a different kind of society that has no hierarkial system. so punk is punk, anarchy is anarchy. i suppose sometimes some punk kid would believe in anarchy and called anarcho punk or whatever.

shouts: pat41, stop talking. just from your nick you sound gay and easily predictable regarding your musical taste (yes i'm prejudice towards your kind). tgarn, you don't know shit about playing guitar if saying nfg and nofx are the easiest. nfg might be really easy, but nofx wouldn't be the easiest. if nofx is the easiest, then what's blink or rancid? waste_elite, keep up the good job, friend.

- n'deso

anarchism is a serious way of thinking. it is much more than just some "over rebellious" kid spouting rhetoric. it's a philosophy that's been explored and examined for hundreds of years by everyone from emma goldman to noam chomsky. it's much more complicated then the simple "fuck the system! smash the government! destroy everything!" nonsense. real anarchy is essentially very much in the vein of socialism and marxism. of course, there are about a million different mutations and branches of "anarchy", so there isn't necessarily s simple explanation of it. but the most popular form seems to be the anarcho-socialism approach.

its the 5 yr old again, not to be confused with other anonymous posters. There are anrchists who arent 23 yr old punks. If you type in "objections to Anarchism" in a search engine, you'll find this page which is actually VERY(well to me) intelligently argued. Anarchists arent neccesarily associated with punk. Theres old guys with grey beards too. The page is really good reading. And i do think anarchism is a liitle too far, but at least they aint servile flatterers, at least their opent o the fact that this capitalist system is serving a very small minority, and some of the things that serve them just happen to coincide with our needs, but not all time. And untill the people rule i will not be happy. We are not living in a democracy. And to support that double poster i will double post this post. The ignorant unite. am i lame? yes.

its the 5 yr old again, not to be confused with other anonymous posters. There are anrchists who arent 23 yr old punks. If you type in "objections to Anarchism" in a search engine, you'll find this page which is actually VERY(well to me) intelligently argued. Anarchists arent neccesarily associated with punk. Theres old guys with grey beards too. The page is really good reading. And i do think anarchism is a liitle too far, but at least they aint servile flatterers, at least their opent o the fact that this capitalist system is serving a very small minority, and some of the things that serve them just happen to coincide with our needs, but not all time. And untill the people rule i will not be happy. We are not living in a democracy. And to support that double poster i will double post this post. The ignorant unite. am i lame? yes.

And just for the record using fuckin multiple times in a post doesn't show your pissed or mad it shows your ignorant.

Thats exactly the bias I'm talking about. Saying liberals are middle of the road and want it both ways. I think are government needs about equal amount of representation from all parties, so they can put checks and balances on eachother to keep it legal and fair. Sorry if I insulted you, and I think its great you read but not everyone is as informed like you. Thats all I was saying. On a side note anarchy is for over rebellious people who are ungrateful for all the things we get in the US.

i agree with some points of anarchist theory. some of you really need to read up on this stuff. i believe there needs to be a reduction of power, not a complete elimination of it. complete and undiluted nihilistic anarchism is not what we want people. you think you are oppressed now, wait until every form of protection we take for granted is taken away. the thugs with the biggest weapons and the biggest numbers will rule. famine, violence, and terror ensue. not many of today's "anarchists" actually believe that the total destruction of organization and rules will work. you pretty much only hear that shit from some dumbass pseudo-anarchist trying to show how punk he is.

of course this is all pretty obvious...

yo man, relax. It just souded like a pissed off comment.

yo man, relax. It just souded like a pissed off comment half joking.

In the miidst of a somewhat intellegent debate about politics (which I dont know why its on an NFG thread anyway) comes just the comment I expected out of a wannabe anarchist punk. Something about break the system fuck it all we dont need it. Every country in the world needs a system of government. everything our country thrives on comes from a system of government that, while it may not be the best, works just the way we need it to. National security, put together by the government. Welfare programs, put together by the government (I personally disagree with the current state of welfare in our country but a lot of you "punks" seem to think we need it). All foreign trades that bring new technologies to our coutry in attempt to make something work better come from our government. Yea it may be a government that is based on wealth and greed but its a government that is, right now, keeping the best country in the world alive. 3rd parties have even become more of a prominent idea in our society these days. Ralph Nader and Ross Perot in recent years have taken a higher percentage of votes than any 3rd party candidate ever dreamed of taking. The biggest joke for a governor ever, Jesse Ventura, is a 3rd party elect. While there may be plenty of things wrong with out form of government tell me why we need to get rid out of... why fuck the system... why break it down? A system that is keeping you alive and healty, a system that is keeping everyone in country in a state of protection after serious terrorist attacks and threats. Whats wrong with that?I am sick of trying to convince people to give up on their "punker than thou" attitude and forget about bashing these pop-punk bands that keep popping up. You arent going to stop them, they have no chance of being stopped until the fad goes away. Give it all up. As soon as the fad goes away they will no longer be there to do whatever it is that is offending you so much. Give up it.

tgarn,It is me, the 5 yr old. What's this constant gibber about bands being liberals. Liberals are the kind of people who want it both ways. They want to carry on the bombing, but they dont want to hurt anyone. Wars are ok, as long as not too many people die. Why do you have to keep on putting yourself on a pedestal and degrading my comments by saying bratty things like i watch darma and greg for info. Isnt darma and greg a cartoon. I dont know. OOhh, your so smart, your the only person who likes punk who reads books aswell.
"SO JUST TO RE EXPLAIN i SAID JUST GO AND LEARN ABOUT THE CONSERVATIVE ARGUMENT, LEARN WHAT THE NAZIS THINK, FIND OUT ABOUT THE GREEN PARTY, JUST LEARN IN GENERAL. But I quess its punk to be stubborn and to think that the government is evil and so are republicans" You really think your great. How do you know i dont read? How do you know if i know zilch? I may know MORE than your lame ass. And im 5. Your so fucking up yourself. How do you know if i dont know how nazis think. How do nazis think. What do you think? Where the fuck do you stand, with your nose stuck up in the air thinkin your so above us because you read books. FUUUCKKK.

"good album, shitty review from a shitty fan"

fine pigfucker, then write your own damn review and see if it gets accepted.

i bought their first CD back whenever it came out(first LP I mean). Its good, but I'm not going to listen to this now. Too many people from my town listen to it, I just don't want to be like them, I want to be different. That's why I listen to the Hippos never. I listen to a lot of CODESEVEN and LEWIS. I also really like the soundtrack to THE JACKAL, I always crank that shit in my 2002 Chevy Blazer

who cares about republicans or democrats- break it down- kill politics- destroy the system, just break it- we don't need it

To think these discussions erupt in a NFG thread. Very nice

You make some good points, its nice to see someone debate and have it be relevant, but come on a lot of people don't know these bands are liberal. In fact out of the small percentage of people that vote 70% of them dont know the difference between a republican and a democrat

I agree with waste elite, I said JUST TRY TO GET THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE ALL POLITICAL BANDS ARE LIBERAL. And to the person below me I named liberal bands not conservative. Do you know the difference between the two? The tv news also has a liberal bias, so you don't get the other side from watching. Maybe your problem is watching too much tv, so while your watching Greg and Dharma for your info I'll read a book. Everytime I go to a concert I see mostly poser kids jumping on the latest bandwagon, and honestly I know a lot of people that are not to smart and these punk bands are the only exposure they get to politics, SO JUST TO RE EXPLAIN i SAID JUST GO AND LEARN ABOUT THE CONSERVATIVE ARGUMENT, LEARN WHAT THE NAZIS THINK, FIND OUT ABOUT THE GREEN PARTY, JUST LEARN IN GENERAL. But I quess its punk to be stubborn and to think that the government is evil and so are republicans.

tgarn, when youre 14, your able to disagree or agree with ideas your are confronted with. I meant young as in very young. And i am 5 years old, so your riducule is acurate.
"just try to get the other side." We live surrounded by the "other side". The other side saturates us, we dont need to look for it. Is on the tv. Its in our schools.
"Name one conservative minded band, thats right dipshit there isn't one" Well, since you asked and answered your own question, so i guess your the dipshit. There are neo nazi punk bands. They talk a lot, but they aint got the action. Explain how exactly political punk bands are brainwashing. They way people in rich and privelleged countries are produced by systems of thought control from the day they were born is brainwashing. On the news, from the politicians, from the schools, from mass media and advertising.

of course you aren't going to find any conservative punk bands (unless you count nazis). punk is the antithesis of conservatism. the two have almost nothing in common. and who the hell wouldn't know bands like anti-flag and propagandhi aren't liberal.come on man, they pretty much exist solely to spread the far left's message. they aren't trying to "fool" anyone, they are pretty straight forward about it. it's not brainwashing. brainwashing is the american media. if anything, these bands encourage kids to question what they've been told. to not be complacent. to learn about the world around them. pretty much every political band in existence encourages kids to go out and educate themselves. why is that brainwashing.

rock n roll and conservatism have always been at odds with each other. always have and always will, thank god.

of course political bands are one sided. everyone is one sided politically (unless you're apolitical). it's called having an opinion. what the hell would be the point of a political band that stands directly in the middle. the whole reason the majority of these bands exist is to spread the message. call it brainwashing, they are just trying to make kids think. if you want brainwashing, go watch the news.

Political punk is the best, it's good though- IT'S BETTER THAN THIS POOR EXCUSE FR MUSIC AND EXPRESSION ANY DAY!!!!!

"Brainwashing with ideoligies and ideas starts when from when you a young, and comes from your suuroundings, not from three dicks in a punk band." A ridiculus thing to say, seeing that half the people that listen to these bands are 14. So are you saying once you pass a certain age no NEW ideas can be recieved? Well thats how it came out. But obviously thats how it worked for you because apparently you've got the intellect of a five year old.

Reading and comprehension people, thats all I ask for. I SAID thats fine to listen to these bands just try to get the other side. I just went to the warped tour and three bands just went off on republicans saying they were "fascists" And I don't know if you've been to a warped tour lately but its full of impressionable sheep that believe anything they say. I've never once heard a conservative sided punk band, or any kind of band ever. I'll just name all the liberals: anti flag, propagandhi, pennywise, strike anywhere, system of a down, rage, pearl jam, nofx, andgood riddance. Name one conservative minded band, thats right dipshit there isn't one. And most people don't even realize or identify these groups as liberal because they sure as hell dont identify themselves as that. S

good album, shitty review from a shitty fan

well tgarn, name a political punk band that isnt "biased". Bias isnt the right word. They have an opinion. "they are all very one sided liberal soap boxes". Well if they werent one-sided,they'd sing about burning the flag on one song, then praise the government on another song. And their not brainwashing kids(although the world would be better off if they did). Brainwashing with ideoligies and ideas starts when from when you a young, and comes from your suuroundings, not from three dicks in a punk band. And even if you do think they have a biased agenda, what is that agenda? Fighting for the truth and justice? Then that "agenda" is prefered to the "agenda" of the mass media, to me. FUCK THE GOVERNMENT! THEIR FUCKIN EVERYONE!FFFFFUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK!!!!

I like the review a few posts down, well said. I'll tell you the problem with all these politic-punk bands, they are all very one sided liberal soap boxes used to brainwash young impressionable teenagers to think the way they do. Don't get me wrong I like a lot of political bands but they have a biased agenda just like americas news media. Listening to these bands is fine, but find the other side of the story and different views via reading

"Anyone ever notice how the bands that everyone loves to hate and make fun of get the most views and comments on their reviews?"

ha ha true
how can i score an album i haven't heard but i liked the self titled

jee that was real biased :P

I'm gonna give it a fair, unbiased review now- not opinionated. Here's a list of pros and cons- Cons- 1.) Very Unoriginal, it soundsl ike every other pop punk band- and weather you like it or not it is very uninspired and tired, 2.) The singers voice sounds very screechy and whinney like he never reached puberty and it can be very annoying, but if you like it.........hey! 3.) WAY too sappy, not a hint of dark undertones or messages- just staright pop teeny bopper crush songs made for kids by guys who wish they were kids. 4.) And finally- poor musicianship, these guys make no attempt to get crazy with their guitars or inventive- it's just the same ol' crap- obviously made for a profit, nothing more. Pros- 1.).............................................................. ..................................------SORRY GUYS, BUT THERE JUST AREN'T ANY!!

"u know nothing about except what some fucks tell u in their barely educated songs."
Ha ha, pretty smart, kid. Politically minded bands open your mind unlike some other bands would. Youre right, all i know is what those dumb propagandhi losers say to me. I take in and believe everything they say. I cant and dont think for myself. Your absolutely right.

umm i still live with my parents but i dont care about offending them. You freaks when you get old you think that all the young kids have to be pushed out of your exclusive club :P. j/k bronco bill. Anyway as for hard and soft music, thats a fucked point to make and the person is real oblivious to an individuals musicals taste making them biased to a type of music with more chord formations. Such as this guy allans holdsworth......hes like the best guitarist ever, but i think he sux. He is boring to listen to. Then again lots of people would disagree with me. As for this new found glory shit, the songs about girls need to stop as they get very old unless your some love stricken teen to scared to talk to a girl because she may think your weird. Dont ask me why im reviewing here i just am.

Just reiterating how ignorant the guy two posts down is. I've said it once, some of you need to quit head banging and you really need to work on your reading and comprehension.

Calm down, just making a little point. And wouldnt you say Korn is harder than NFG? Thats the point I was making. And I have no idea why people take this shit so personnal. This jackass acted like I just raped his mother and stole his so treasured virginity

KORN isn't a hard band you idiot- they are fucking skinny pussys as well. They are like a nike sponsered wannabe joke metal group- they are about as much a joke as their even dumber sidekicks limp biscuit. If you think this is "hard" music then you haven't heard "hard" music.

I didn't know we had the music God here telling us what isn't music. Im not a nfg fan, I liked some stuff on ngcs, but come on its still music dipshits. So is Korn better becauase their so hard and tough? I'm not saying they aren't, but we shouldn't base good music on how much distortion they use or how much they hate the world. And down with the government, anarchy

i agree with what u mean, lots of their fans do lean towards the just-got off the baby formula-age, doesn't mean if someone else likes them it's a sin...and i hope that job comment was for them, not me...i know i gotta get a real one, but my part time thing is holding up for now. adios.

I say kill osama and kill bush- both are pieces of shit!!!!!!!

Of course- to the guy 3 posts down- see, these are the only people who listen to NFG- people who still live with their parents and worry about "offending" them- go get a job kid!

I agree...........I hope NFG sees these and kill themselves- that would be the most emotionally intense thing they could ever do- and the most pleasing for us

Enough with the bullshti- this band sucks- they have NO talent, NO originality, WIMPY music, TERRIBLE lyrics, it all sound the same, the guys voice sounds just like the guy from Blink, Somethibng Corporate, Sum 41, etc. etc., doesn't mattaer if this is punk or not- it's just bad music, there is plenty of soft and melodic music that is good- but this fuckin' crap isn't it!!!! This not music- this is a tool for money and it grabs the ears of 12- 14 year olds who haven't yet finished puberty and only think about what the radiop tells them too. Do you think these guys are passionate about music? HELL NO! There is no anguish or intense heartbreaking pain in their so called "love songs"- it's just poppy, annoying bullshit. NUFF SAID!!!

I always feel when someone calls something a "guilty pleasure," it's a nice-looking way of saying "I like this but don't want to be ridiculed for liking it."
If guilty pleasures were dished out in music, esp. within punk, I think citing Neil Diamond as a guilty pleasure is more applicable than saying New Found Glory is a guilty pleasure.
NFG isn't a bad band. I really agree with the idea that it does suck when mall trash digs a band because I detest people who like a band because everyone else does. Liking a band is something you do, not something someone does for you.
If you like this band or this CD, just say so, it isn't gonna be a blemish on your perminant punk rock report card. If you don't like it, have a reason, like the lyrics are bull or his voice bites or the bassist refuses to wear a shirt (ok, maybe that has nothing to do with the music...). Don't hate something without giving it a listen or don't hate something because everyone else does. The herd mentality of hating something because everyone else does is no better than the mall trash liking a band because everyone else does.
As far as this CD, I haven't gotten to listen enough to make a solid statement on it, but it's a CD that I can play in my car with my friends or my mom and offend neither, so that's a plus.

The Al Qaeda rock NFG when planning out terrorist strikes. It's true.

He went to school with anti-flag, genius, not NFG.

i'm back, same guy as the quote just below, i'm sorry i just don't think my response was very good , first off, go to propagandhi's website , read their news and opinions sections , read the articles, now read their songs again and then tell me about their lyrics .

secondly, if you went to high school with NFG that makes you about 23,24?
.....and you still listen to NFG and think they are punk? grow up.

and dont tell me to use my brain cause the only time you use it is to masturbate to some shallow girl that your lusting over. that's about the extent of NFG's intellingence

by the way , i don't mind the c.d.
nothing special , but not bad

to the guy below who wrote about propaghandi and their barely educated shit, hahahahah, there is really nothing i can say to reflect how retarded that quote was, but what's even worse you're saying while talking about nfg!!!! hahahahahahahah

p.s even if you live in a middle class environment doesn't mean you can't cirtize what you think is wrong. i personnaly think A-F's lyrics are better suited for the 14-15 year old politically conscious people but never the less.

oh boo hoo none of the wannabe punks that populate these pussy boards like these guys. so fucking what. go listen to your propaghandi bullshit and bitch about the govt. u know nothing about except what some fucks tell u in their barely educated songs. by the way, i went to highschool w/ anti flag. 'mt. lebonon hs in pittsburgh, PA' and they were about as nonpunk as u can get. they are very wealthy,from a upper middle class white suburb. just like me,but i don't front like they do. they thought punk was cool, so they started a band, and started buying punk clothes. at least nfg doesnt front like they do.u guys have no fucking brains. research your shit.

People like to talk shit and argue.

Major label bands garner much anger towards these bands due to their affiliation with such labels. Sooooooo you have the ones that don't care about the label a band is on, then you have the ones that do. Argument ensues.

Then there's the hardcore kids bitching about the fact that these bands are whiny, wimpy, etc. These type of kids don't sound too intelligent, which is why their idea of shit talking a band consists of: fuck them they're whiny. I also found this statement amusing: "I'll be sensitive while I pound your fucking face and ripping your guts out kiddies." Pure genius.

For the record I think some hardcore is great (Bane, American Nightmare, Converge etc.). But I like some less screamy stuff as well (Saves the Day, Sunny Day Real Estate, River City High etc.).

I think people need to accept different styles of music a little more.

New Found Glory is pretty bad though.

-Scotty

Anyone ever notice how the bands that everyone loves to hate and make fun of get the most views and comments on their reviews?

the trendy kids in my grade at school wear NFG sweatshirts. The day i see them wearing propagandhi sweatshirts im gonna shoot myself.

oh yeah, and from what I've read, Pat41 is a fucking douchebag.

As far as good love songs how bout "my favorite chords" by the weakerthans, damn, thats a fucking amazing depiction of what love is really like. NFG sounds very derivitive to me and very boring. I watched about 2 songs of theirs at warped and decided I was getting a ear raping... so I left.

amen to that

Im sick of people saying "this is gay" "emo sucks" "nfg are sissies." When are you going to realize that there are different types of music out there and different people like different things. That doesn't mean you can bash anything and everything you dont like. Yea, ok compared to Black Flag NFG is going to sound like sissies, but then to other people Black Flag will sound like just noise. I hope that you people can become a little more open-minded and realize that there are different types of music that serve different kind of purposes and appeal to different kinds of people.

Can't anybody give a better reason why saves the day and dashboard suck other than the fact their "wimpy" And the reason everyone has respect for the Ramones because they were one of the first if not THE first to do the punk thing. NFG just jumped on a trendy bandwagon. But bash all you want because they are "wimpy"

I'm also sick of all these anonymous writers who bash something and give their opinion without the worries of somebody shoving what they wrote down their throat later on. And Mudvayne was cooler the first time I saw them...when they were Gwar(jk)

Hey guys, we're forgeting this band is about be "sensitive" and "caring " and stuff................HA!! Yeah, I'll be sensitive while I pound your fucking face and ripping your guts out kiddies- Black Flag rules!

THEY DON'T CONFORM!?!?!?!? YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!! This band is all about conformity- fucking little kids don't know what music is about. Die already. These musically iliterate bastards should go walk off a cliff because they sound just like "Something Corporate", "Blink 182", "Sum 41", etc. etc. etc.- there isn't a band on the planet that sounsds klike Black Flag my friend- these pussys can't make music, their vocals are whinney and annoying and he cries klike a little girl. LOVE SONGS?????????????? These aren't love songs, these are songs about girls rehashed from for little teeny boppers l;ike yourself from everyother pop release. Some real love songs would be "Sistinas" by Danzig, "Summer Nights" by Rollins, "Stand By Me", I don't remember that older bands name(not the PW version)- you know, some bands with a little balls and variation- not bands that sound like 12 year old boys with no testosterone whinning about some 12 year old girl. Maybe when grow up a little you'll realize- and if you are grown up i feel terribly sorry for you!

>i got into nfg when they played with hc bands. things have changed but they can still make a catchy song

I thought I explained this with my meningitis comment.

I'll repeat for you:

Meningitis is catchy too, doesn't mean that it is good.

the person below me says that the music is wimpy. May I ask why? Is it because they are so blatent in their song's intent. That a love song is a ballad and not screaming with distorted guitars to hide the off-key moments? That they don't conform to what we think they should sound like? That they dare to be different not because they are hoping we like it but that we understand it? If you don't like it, fine. But if you criticize (or however you spell that word) then use a point of reference so we know what you are comparing to. Because if you try comparing dashboard and tool, then no shit you'll think they suck.
NFG, I think this album is an evolution in the right step lyrically, but they tend to stay guitarwise. Perhaps even a small step back. Great tracks, Sonny (my favorite) Head on COllison, forget my name, my friends over you then the other songs. Overall, for NFG fans a worthy album, just the same for pop-punk fans.

It has nothing to do with them being on MTV or being popular you morons!!!! It's just that their music sucks- punk or not- the music is juist fuckin' wimpy!!

hmmm, i wasn't logged in. that was sockk

when people say that dashboard confessional and saves the day are going to save rock and/or roll, i like to put in my opinion.

I really really like this album. It is getting me incredibly pumped to see them August 15 at Warped tour. This is the first album i bought that I liked this much since mudvayne. I think this is a much more mature album for NFG track numbers 1-4 are incredible and I love #10 (even though it has a shitty intro). I only have a few questions for the people who post on this comment board shitting on dashboard confessional and saves the day. How come before they got popular and started being played on MTV and stuff we all praised them as innovative and original bands but now we shit on them just like you do to NFG, blink 182, and good charlotte and sum 41 and all those kinds of bands. My other question is... WHY DO YOU FUCKING CARE. just dont listen to it. who cares if it is ruining the image of punk or whatever. they image of punk went out in the early 80's. People now dress the part but the attitude is not alive. If you were so "punk" you wouldnt care about these bands that you hate. You would accept them for what they are and pass them off as something you dont care to think about. Just because you dont like something doesnt mean it is automatically horrible and it also doesnt mean it takes no talent to play. Any instrument takes talent. I try to play drums, I have no talent and I sounds horrible. My brother however has talent and can sound incredible when behind a drum set. Guitar is the same way... I have tried to play guitar and can get a few chords out but nothing like NFG can play while it isnt breathtaking it does still take some talent. What ever happened to music being music once in a while instead of it always having to be art. Sometimes I just want to listen to something that is simple. Sometimes I want to listen to something innovative and original.and another thing... if bands like NFG and blink and others are so bad because they all play the same kind of music explain why the ramones are hailed as punk gods even though all of their songs are played with 3 chords and half of them sounds incredibly the same with different lyrics. I am not saying I hate the ramones... its just the opposite I think the ramones are awesome but why are we all so hypocritical.-pat41

I dont care what anybody says. This cd is damn good. Not punk? Well i dont give a shit, if I like the music that`s what counts. It's catchy as hell and Bane does background vocals. It kicks ass. Who cares the elitist piece shit people who complain all the fucking time

-Ejaculine

i got into nfg when they played with hc bands. things have changed but they can still make a catchy song

Yeahm, Black Flag fuckin' rules- Rollins tears shit up and I wish there was a punk band around now that could match that guys intensity- I was at the Warped Tour last year in NY and Rollins leveled the place and made every other band on the teeny bopper warped tour bill look like 12 year old girls- it's pretty sad when a 41 year old guy is in better shape and has 10 million times more energy than guys who are 20- just shows you that these new pussys would be eaten' alive at a Flag show!

Black Flag is my favorite band of all time and some of their stuff is punk- like Damaged, but it's more hardcore. Then the rest of Black Flag's albums like the awesome "My War" and "In My Head" are a hybrid of dark metal, hardcore and blues- which in my opinion is better than anything that has come out in the past 10 years.

black flag isn't punk? coulda fooled me, "damaged" is one of the best punk/hardcore albums ever. and to the guy that shitted on them for the song "tv party". i'm pretty sure that song was making a mockery of people who waste away in front of the television not a genuine celebration of television.

the cover looks like a fucking abercrombie and fitch shopping bag

Yet again I am misunderstood by ignorant know it alls. I didnt say black flag was a punk band I said they INFLUENCED punk, theres a big difference. Just like weezer isnt punk or emo but they influenced both genres. So how about you guys work on your reding and comprehension skills then write derogatory remarks about me.

And to the guy a few messages below me, I do know a lot about guitar, I play it. And the easiest songs I know are NOFX songs or NFG. Their not hard. So maybe you should practice some more

Why is that girl raping the guy on the cover??!!

Selling your record for virtually nothing at Best Buy will get you to #4 pretty quickly.

'But NFG must be doing something right to have gotten to #4 on the Billboard top 200....'

What is Britney doing right to be up there?She has the looks...like NFG with their tattoes.She sings pop songs, like NFG...whats the difference?

I didn't go to warped tour last time (In Australia) because there were heaps of shitty bands playing, including this band.

"And that guy who said go listen to Nofx for good music is a jackass, they have turned into your standard three chord pop punk band."

What the fuck are you on? You obviously know absolutely nothing about NOFX or playing the guitar my friend...go listen to Pump up the Valuum and tell me if that is "3 chord pop punk".

Black Flag is the best group ever- and they weren't really even punk buddy a few posts down!

what i don't get about this cd is why bane, what feeds the fire, matt skiba, and dan andriano are doing singing back-up. I mean i can understand the last two, seeing as alkaline trio and nfg toured together, but how did bane and what feeds the fire get suckered into appearing on this album?

NFG arent really that bad, they just arent really punk either. They are way more power pop than pop punk. Pop punk is bands like Screeching Weasel, The Queers, Descendents, even NOFX... WHO KOWWS WHY THOUGH? IS IT ME?

Black Flag is so emotional!! I saw their music video for a song I believe was called TV. It was about him and his friends watching Tv, I almost cried it was so full of emotion. I'm not saying black flag sucks, and they did do a lot for punk, but I'm saying they arent that emotional. Energy should not be mistaken for emotion.

And that guy who said go listen to Nofx for good music is a jackass, they have turned into your standard three chord pop punk band.

And I didn't say std and dashboard were emo bands, I said they had emotion. And they can save rock from this jock rock nu metal bullshit that dominates the radio.

"If this album didnt suck, it would probably be alright.
Actually, on second thought... no, it would still suck."

I don't understand why bands like NFG are making millions on MCA, while good pop punk bands like Cadilac Blindside are on Fuled By Ramen living in a van by the river.

The reason people who don't like pop-"punk" bands discuss them on this site is because they are an infringement upon the idie scene. To even mention the term "punk" in the same sentence as New Found Glory is a travesty. Despite the fact that the scene has become saturated with mediocre, wannbe mainstream music, it still lives. The backlash against these so called pop-"punk" band is proof of such. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with bands such as NFG searching for fame and fortune. I do have a problem with them and their fans making a mockery of the indie scene. However, one can take solice in young bands such as strike anywhere and thrice perserving the scene through their passionate, honest, and energetic music. Much in the same vein as Bad Religion, Social Distortion, the Vandals, and later bands such as Nofx, Rancid, Lagwagon, Strung Out, Good Riddance, ect...

I think this cd is pretty damn good actually. It's gotta be their best so far and it's def. more mature sounding. They may not be the most talented around but the cd is good. And for those that come on bashing the band and all the crap about not listening to pop punk... how come you waste your time discussing these type of bands then. It seems to me that you give way too much thought about them for not liking them. Thanks and Have a great day!

This message board does nothing but depress me.

Dashboard will not save rock.

Saves the Day is not emo/pop-punk.

Anybody that says emo is bad music has no clue what he is talking about.

If you consider Dashboard and Saves the Day emo, then you have never actually heard emo.

I don't even know why I waste my time typing all this cause none of it will sink in.

-Scotty

P.S. Please go to www.fourfa.com. There you can learn all about this music called emo. Maybe some of the nonsense coming out of your mouths will stop then.

Good review by the way.

i rule

personally im not into this whole pop punk thing but i can say that this review sucked as it seemed as if he purposley tried to find errors in the songs to exploit. i dont like it much but i hated the review......in other news ill compare them to a band totally opposite of the style ala black flag to look even punker by saying "jee this isnt even punk but ill compare it to black flag to show how un punk it is." lets compare nelly and nirvana now every1. as a group

anyone else think the lead singer looks like a cross between david silver and quentin tarentino? just a thought. i saw these guys a couple years ago with saves the day and face to face and they seemed to have plenty of energy. however, that didn't translate to a good performance overall. i gave this album a listen b/c ngcs for some reason struck a chord with me when it first came out on an indie. since then their releases have done nothing for me, especially the cover album. i'm 24 years old. i'm too old for bands that sing mainly about girls. this record just didn't do it for me. just an opinion. as for saves the day and dashboard saving rock and roll. wrong. i will. ha, ha.

"Meningitis is cathcy too, doens't mean it is good"

Hahahahah!!!! Oh man that was like the first thing that really made me laugh all day. Whoo. :)

As for this review, I think it was written pretty well. The only thing that kind of got me was the massive paragraph in the middle talking about the songs. But thats ok. I like when reviews talk about the songs individually instead of just brushing through it all saying "it's good pop punk, go buy it. I like it. They're great.".
As for NFG themselves, I like them; but i'm definintely not like infatuated with them.. I own their albums, and I don't think they're bad, but I'm not putting this album on my priority cd list... there's about 20 behind it. Heh.

To the guy a few posts down- even if tyhey did tour alot- Black Flag toured relentlessly- 42 shows in 43 days! And Henry still managed to beat the shit out of himself and the crowd everynight- without drugs, beer, smoke or any of that crap- these guys are just pussys- face it!

sticks and stones may break my bones but new found glory suck

I think they should change their name to Jew Found Glory....Because jews really are bad musicians....

I think this album is little too poppy for my tastes. My friend Joanna had me listening to this a few days ago and I didnt like it that much. There is only 1 or 2 good songs on it. I think this band needs to write harder sounding music and ditch the boy in love with girl poppy bullshit

Scott, where is my Original Sinners review?

>but who cares if it’s catchy as hell

Meningitis is cathcy too, doens't mean it is good.

why in the hell would matt skiba and dan adriano from alkaline trio sing on this album?

"I don't necessarily agree with the reviewer's opinion, but I respect his review because he commented on things like the maturity of the lyrics and the quality of the guitar work."

"I thought the review was honest and fair. I like the he pointed out the lack of guitar work."

Thanks for the positive feedback guys

the first two songs are decent the rest is the most boring cd on earth...

Know what I think would be a good feature for CD reviews? Something like "Get this if you like..." and name 3 or 4 similar CDs.

To the guys that said they looked tired at warped:

I don't know, I saw them on Conan, and they were moving around alot. I have never seen them live for myself, but I have heard good things about their shows. But think about it, if you are on a tour playing almost everyday, You can't help but be tired sometimes, you got screwed that day.

Sponge were one of the better bands to come out of 90s alternative rock. On the other hand, if I ever hear cumbersome on the radio again im going to puncture my ear drums.

I thought the review was honest and fair. I like the he pointed out the lack of guitar work. NGCS was their best album by far and for some reason they have strayed from that formula. The surge of pop punk reminds me when grunge got too popular. And crappy bands like Sponge and Seven Mary Three got radio play. Today you can substitute Simple plan and the Sugar Cult. It's over, the only thing that will last are quality bands like NOFX and Lagwagon.

Sniff my hairy butt cheeks.

Thi album is frustrating to listen to- even more frustrating than anything by Blink 182.

Better yet........where's my gun.

Where's the music???? All I hear are little 12 year old boys hoping around waiting for pubirty with poorly played instruments!

ewwwwwwwwwwww....New Found Glory............yuck, gross.....die die die

Kick out the jams motherfuckers!!!!!!!

I saw New Found Glory once- it was at the warped tour and I glanced at their stage- what a pathetic band! Their songs had no energy, no intensity- they just stood on stage a "tried" to sing and.............emotion? These guys have none of it! The only "emotion" bands like these and Dashboard cofessional have are the emotion of crying about a girl- oh boooohoooo, I'm a little fucking pathetic wimp!

Yeah, I agree with the guy below- what ever happened to bands like that- the one's that got up on stage and people knew they were in for a show that they would come out of bleeding!

Kill, destroy, annihilate, obliterate!

I say this all the time, but I'm going to say it again: If you don't like a band, find a more descriptive way to say it than "Fuck this whiny ass, pop-punk-emo Blink 182 MTV bullshit." It honestly AMAZES me that so many people will take up so much time and effort to say the same thing over and over again. I kinda like (not love) this album, so I don't necessarily agree with the reviewer's opinion, but I respect his review because he commented on things like the maturity of the lyrics and the quality of the guitar work. How many times have you seen people write "this band is gay" on here and then watched as others actually respond to that? Probably not very often. This is a discussion board, wouldn't it be nice if people actually coversed about things? I guess I can dream...

REAL EMOTION????????????????? Go listen to some Black Flag- THAT'S real emotion.

"i think that new found glory has attention deficit disorder. good review, though."

Thanks dude

"the complicated guitar from the first cd? i dont think so. honestly i own all cds and this is more mature but this is nfg. show me one complicated guiter line."

Listen to 2's & 3's, Tell Tale Heart and Passing Time. Then, go listen to Dressed To Kill, Sucker and My Friends Over You. There's a huge difference in the quality of the guitar work. That might not be true for all the songs on the stuff after NGCS, but overall, the guitar on NGCS was a bit more complicated then it is now.

dashboard will be one of the bands to save rock? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ehem, ehem HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA sorry, that was a good one. and while we're at it, let's liken dashboard to the ramones of our era that saved rock. yea sure, dashboard can appeal to a lot of dumbed down, uptight ass wipe emo faggots like yourselves tgarn.

I think this is probably nfg's best album yet. the songs are really good as is the quality. and for the person below me, who the fuck are you to say what real music is. god, you fucking "im the punkist kid in the world" people really have to chill out. i dont even like a lot of emo. i think std is shit, but that doesnt mean im gonna say its not real music.

JoSH

Emo/Pop must die motherfuckers. Emo is shit - listen to some real music like NOFX or Propagandhi. Get NOFX - stickin in my eye if ya never heard them b4. Try Propagandhi - back to the motor league. STD's are (is) gay.

Emo/Pop must die motherfuckers. Emo is shit - listen to some real music like NOFX or Propagandhi. Get NOFX - stickin in my eye if ya never heard them b4. Try Propagandhi - back to the motor league. STD's are gay.

I was hoping this album would grow on me after a few more listens, but it hasn't. It just doesn't click quite like the S/T album does. It does have its moments though.

I am a NFG fan, by the way.

dashboard confessional and saves the day will not save rock and roll, they will sell bunches of records and make people dumber. i'm not saying that selling records is a bad thing, but that rereleased dashboard confessional thing where they did a palette swap on the album cover and added drums to some of the songs was utter bullshit.

I have all the NFG albums, and I think this is their weakest effort. It just seems to me like the songs could have been better. The thing about the self titled and NGCS that makes NFG fun is that its easy to catch yourself singing along. I just can't do that with this album. I could be wrong, but I think they are going backwards. The lyrics don't seem all that mature, and after the 4th song, all the other tracks kinda sound the same. I can see these guys getting really popular with the masses, but their last album could have produced more radio hits, in my opinion.
Whats with the screaming in "Singled Out"? That ruined a potentially mediocre song.

I hope its not true that bleed american never cracked the top 40 and these guys were in the top 10...whats wrong with this world?

If you want to hear a really good band, check out The Stereo. The new album comes out Tuesday and it is very good.

come on people..fastest NFG song is better off dead..that song rocks

Yeah I hate bands that put REAL emotion into their lyrics and then have the nerve to sell alot of cds and appeal to all kinds of people...you are a fucking idiot. Dashboard will be one of the bands to save rock, along with std. Never heard something corporate

you're right. i thought nfg was a horrible band before this album and after listening to it, i still thought nfg was a horrible band. still, i give it a 2 because i like to reserve 1's for even worse bands like something corporate, dashboard confessional, saves the day and the rest of the shitty emo/pop-punk bands out there.

the complicated guitar from the first cd? i dont think so. honestly i own all cds and this is more mature but this is nfg. show me one complicated guiter line.

If this album didnt suck, it would probably be alright.

Actually, on second thought... no, it would still suck.

i think that new found glory has attention deficit disorder. good review, though.

This band is the worst band ever- I mean, the mainstream music world is so pathetic- terrible bands like this sell millions of records while excellent bands like Danzig are ignored- I guess it shows that this world is full of idiots! Wimpy idiots, who would wnat to listen to this whinney crap!

I saw them at a show last year when they played with anti-flag and less than jake. I didn't like them....

I was reading the paper and this cd made #4 on the billboard behind eminem, korn, and Megamix #245 or something like that...with 90,000 units moved. My mind was blown. The highest bleed american ever got was 40th, and NFG debuts at #4?! WTF

ahem! nothing gold can stay wasn't on a major. If my memory serves me correctly it came out on eulogy(sp) records and then was picked up by Drive thru records.

Oh, yes the cd wasn't bad, but it wasn't good. Very enjoyable though.

This record is pretty catchy and less melodic than the self titled one,i like this album better just because it doesn't get u bored like the s/t. One important hightlight of this album is that you hear chad screaming in one song,even thought its not for much it's pretty rad to hear jordan singing and chad screaming in the background like he did back in the day with the allmighty shai hulud.

"the fastest song NFG has done is Black And Blue"

yeah, you're right, it is a little faster than SICP.

"first person to count up how many times this reviewer used the word "hook"/"lack" gets a prize"

lol, i need a thesaurus

"go lisetn to passing time. one of the few songs that still sounds awesome live."

when I saw them live last year, they played that and Winter of 95, the only two tracks they played from NGCS. Passing Time is awesome live, easily one of the biggest highlights of their set.

New found glory is ska they is ska gay oooo so how are you gay sure hahaha whats my butt i lick you butt.

I think this is a little more interesting and catchy than the last one, but the first is the best in my opinion. It seemed a little more pationate and raw, not like this CD or the S/T one. Next stop, TRL and Blink182 "Mtv punk rock" stardom!!

i came here to make fun of nfg, but i can't think of anything creative...
i keep thinking of the comment about kool aid on the last "bands on tv" thread. heh.
the lead singer's voice hurts my brain. it's so frickin high, he must have no testacles.

all right, now everyone is going to make fun of me because i have nothing better to do than make fun of bands that i don't like. save your breath, though, i already know how pathetic i am.

the fastest song is "black and blue"

go lisetn to passing time. one of the few songs that still sounds awesome live.

I like NFG....but then again I like pop punk too. This CD ain't great, but yes, it'd good. Although I can't say I was blown away with it, like...hmm Midtown perhaps. But NFG must be doing something right to have gotten to #4 on the Billboard top 200....

first person to count up how many times this reviewer used the word "hook"/"lack" gets a prize. not a bad album...i like it after i listen to it a few times. nowhere near as disapointing as box car racer.

Pretty accurate review. I liked the S/T more than this. By the way, the fastest song NFG has done is "Black And Blue".