they suck. it was all over myspace when it was released. i don't use that site anymore.

haha go fuck yourself dbug

this website is terrible....how do you delete your account?

Funny...I don't think this band cares much if someone HATES them. I think they've proven this many times at Warped Tour when they spent their whole time on stage completely wasted and talking shit to the crowd, leaving only enough time to play 3 of their dumbest songs! I LOVE it! I you can't appreciate NOFX's true acts of Punk Rock then you're probably better off sticking with your Good Charolette and Simple Plan albums and other gay shit like that!!

i absolutely HATE everything about this band.

the variety is the best thing about this record.

this album is pretty good. its really catchy

One Celled is about Propagandhi, where rock for sustainable capitalism has a reference to NoFx, all good fun, both quality bands

is one celled creature about propagandhi?

m azing cd

In my personal opinion, this is NOFX's best album. Although I do like NOFX, I have always found that I skip a lot of songs on their albums.
But I can easily listen to Wolves, and enjoy it, all the way through.

you are all wrong, NOFX sucks, This cd is awesome, You all have bad taste

this album is for true "nofx-er's" the team that lives like rock stars. the fans that have passion and dedication to true, real punk rock. PAF

best release for some time....not up to "punk in drublic" standards though

This is one of their best. I'd say better than anything aside from Drublic and So Long. The songs are short, punchy, and catchy. The 60% Reprise is fantastic.

great album, the ep recently released was also kick ass

This is a fuckin'good NOFX LP. The best one since PID. "Doornails" is probably one of the most sad punk song I've ever heard. NOFX did much shitty songs for the last 5 years that this record is a big surprise for me. 3 month after its release I still listen to it every day (i listened to the previous one only twice before deleting it from my MP3 player think).

I like this album. No, it's not another Punk in Drublic or So Long..., but it's a lot better than, say, Errorism, and I actually think it flows a lot better than White Trash which, while blessed with some REALLY good tracks (The first three songs, "Liza and Louise," "Please Play This Song on the Radio"), just seemed to consist of a lot of filler. But oh well.

And damn, I love "The Man I Killed."

because you touch yourself at night.

how come this album fucking rules but war on errorism fucking sucks so much?

"I get a kick out of reading these comments... along with the comments on practically every other record review and news post on this site. It leads me to believe that a majority of the people that post on this site are 14 year old keyboard warriors talking shit about everything and whom wouldn't say anything close to what they type here to a person in a real life conversation. Cheers dumbasses!"

yeah because random, uneducated mass-assumptions are so mature.

I get a kick out of reading these comments... along with the comments on practically every other record review and news post on this site. It leads me to believe that a majority of the people that post on this site are 14 year old keyboard warriors talking shit about everything and whom wouldn't say anything close to what they type here to a person in a real life conversation. Cheers dumbasses!

I am honestly confused as to how someone who claims to be a fan of NOFX would not like this album, this is the band at thier finest, and in a very short time I have come to realize the Wolves in Wolves clothing is right up there with this band's most revered records.

This is the best records so far this year in my opinion. People just cant handle its greatness. Thats why they hate on it. One day you will all appreciate what this band is doing and has done. For now you should concentrate on graduating High School and forming your own opinions. Have a lovely day.

Chargyle

this is definetly a good album! anyone who thinks otherwise has to remember how many albums they have come out with. you can say wat u want after you have released as many albums as NOFX has. they have great music and some of the funniest and the most meaniful lyrics i have ever heard.

I like Mattersville.

i played this to my sister(maybe i was following a damned example) n she said it sounded like a shit cover of tom delongue played by my emo loving school friends

Another NOFX album with uneven songs but I really thought this one was produced excellently. Of course I decided to get it on vinyl so who knows if that's why I like it so much... Anyway pretty good album, the only one I'd rather not have to sit through is "Cool and Unusual Punishment", I agree with whoever said it's the "Mattersville" of this album

more list morons!!

1/ Punk in drublc
2/ Decline
3/ White trash
4/ Zoo/Ribbed !! after 2 complete listenings 1 joint and 2 beers, we can't choose between.
5/ So long
6/ Longest line
7/ War on errorism
8/ We Threw Gasoline On The Fire And Now We Have Stumps For Arms And No Eyebrows
9/ Pump up the valuum
10/ S&M Airlines

Signed : the bassist of no use for a name

Its a fuckin great album

i like the 7 inches better with acuostic versions and some really good songs

the man i killed - is about killing a politicians it doesn't matter which because there's always another one waiting to take his place

I like this album better than Errorism and I think Cool punishment sounds pretty decent with that rancid sounding guitar riff.

1. Drublic
2. Decline
3. Valuum
4. White trash
5. Longest Line
6. Wolves
7. Ribbed
8. So Long
9. Zoo
10. S&M Airlines
etc
that's approximately the order I'd give.

"truly are the coolest bastards of diy"

They say "bastions of DIY," not bastards. The CD is pretty great.

--"once celled creature" is most definitely about chris hannah. this is something that a poster on the g7 blog said about this:

"Propagandhi’s jabs at NOFX raise valid points, whereas Fat Mike making fun of a goofy, tongue-in-cheek photo is just kind of weird and stupid. Sort of like reviewing “This Is Spinal Tap” and writing a long essay critiquing the band’s dumb lyrics."--

I would have to disagree on this one because in my opinion the NOFX song doesn't make fun of the photo, but uses it as a reference to Propaghandi and makes a statement about leading by showing something positive instead of somethiing negative.
Anyway, I think most people can see both sides of a story so whatever, I don't think to much of the whole discussion. To me it's mainly just a good song and a good record wich has at least some lyrical depth on it. Musically I think there are a few songs that maybe shouldn't be on there but I hardly know of any records that are flawless from start to finish.
greets
a.

leaving jesusland has rlly fuckin good lyrics i personally love this album..i kinda hate pump up the valuum although it has good songs and so long was there best n punk in drublic was awesome...march to the indiferent drum is the best song id sey

punksxe

i hate to tell you this but the review you just offered was very useless, and also, i dont think you understand much of what the songs are about..
right now i dont have the energy to break it down for u, but if u comment again wishing to know , i'd be happy to offer some thoughts

i don't really think drublic was their best, though linoleum is probably my favorite song aside from the decline.

personally i think nofx albums tend to get a little bit better each time. well, maybe if you throw pump up the valuum out of the picture. but i don't think any nofx record is as catchy as this one.

why does everybody slag "leaving jesusland"? i thought it was catchy and funny, but hey, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, its just that no1s really reasoned why they dont like that song. (unless i missed something...)

also, maximum rock n roll and liberal animation aren't that bad, straight off the top of my head, having not listened to them for ages, i can name shut up already, beer bong, shitting bricks, and six pack girls as great songs!

Not bad for NOFX. I like this album because it has variety and that is the flavor of life. the album starts of with a dumb acoustic song called 60%. But then after that it goes into the fast and political track USA-holes. Then goes into the more funny :) seing double at the triple rock which is one of the best songs on the album, it was also on the never trust a hippie ep, just like the song the marxist broethers. then comes the song we march to the beat of a diffrent drum which is good but it has some slow parts but they all go together. then comes the marxist brothers which is nothing special has some funny lines but i dont really like it. Then comes a sighn of relief a good fast song that is under 1min and 30 sec. long. it is just like old NOFX. the lyrics are odd but still good the music goes from speedy acoustic to speddy eletric guitar. then comes another classic style song which is one of my favirote on the album it is called benny got blown up it is fast but not sloppy it is great. next comes the funniest and best song on the album LEAVING JESUS LAND. It has some really great lyrics because it is funny to hear a fat guy like mike make fun of fat people it is like reading a Dr. Phil book. Plus the song is good length and is really up beat and fun Well next comes the awesome and diffrent up beat short and melodic treat getting high on the down low another fast song but it has a real cool groove to it and I would not mind a few more songs like it. The next song is good to it is called cruel and unusual punnishment. it is a fun ska vibed song which turns into fast punk then goes back to the ska vibe it has some good lyrics and is another one of those songs you have fun well hearing. after that come the two worst songs wolves in wolves clothing and the lame ass waste of time cantado en Espenol. after that there is the song 100 times f@kder wich has a sick drum intro and has a cool guitar piece and i love the duel vox between fat mike and mel. Then comes the 30 second instant crassic it is cool they should have made it longer becasue it is really pretty good. Then comes you will lose faith is is a fast kind of classic style song but it is a little long and the guitar solo is more rock&roll than punk because it slows down but none the less it is mostly fast nofx with a cool solo and thought pervoking lyrics. next is the stupid one celled creature just skip it. next is the goofy acoustic song doornails it is cool the jokes get old but not bad. Now were on the last song 60% reprise it is cool more medicore kind of like old green day speed and the lyrics are kind of cool to it just talks about they love having fun making music and how they have there own label the truly are the coolest bastards of diy. have a great day and pick up this cd

I think you're confusing the blanket-term "liberal" with the modern democratic ideology of "liberalism". I consider myself a liberal, but I am not a supporter of contemporary party politics.

You silly cunts, liberal does not mean left-wing. I am left-wing and i hate liberals. From the Wikipedia article:

Broadly speaking, liberalism seeks a society characterized by freedom of thought for individuals, limitations on government power, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, and a market economy that supports private enterprise.

Read that last part again. Then read some Suhumans and Dead Kennedys lyrics and tell me they are liberal.

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well....that g7 poster proves single celled creature is about hannah.

but its fucking stupid: how the hell is propagandhi saying: "let me powerpoint your balance sheet" any more valid than nofx saying "In order to lead by example you have to show a path to a better world"...

going back to the whole punkvoter thing...at least fat mike was doing something to try and make a difference the best way he saw possible. chris obviously didn't agree with that but instead of doing something himself, he just bitched about the efforts of Fat Mike (the whole George Soros thing). So fuck him. in fact, i think NOFX's criticism is much more valid than propagandhi's (wow....fat wreck chords makes money. they also give the best royalty rates out of any label and treat their bands fairly.)

"they are sweet songs, I can't wait for the new record."

Yeah, that's fucking wonderful. Everybody loves when you tell them a song is good without information about the songs. What are they called? What's the tracklisting to the bonus disc?

I really hope the Subhumans are not liberal.

If you've heard the band and payed attention to ANY of their lyrics and still have to ask that question, I'm not sure that you actually understand what the word "liberal" even means. I'm not trying to be a smartass. Maybe read though this Wikipedia article? Maybe you're joking?

CF

Everyone is still jealous of NOFX.

"Did I hear something about two new GR songs?

yea, i read one comment on it. you'd think people would be talking about that all over the threads."

they are sweet songs, I can't wait for the new record.

I also quite enjoy the two songs by None More Black.

and I'm warming up to The Loved Ones.

"Propagandhi’s jabs at NOFX raise valid points, whereas Fat Mike making fun of a goofy, tongue-in-cheek photo is just kind of weird and stupid. Sort of like reviewing “This Is Spinal Tap” and writing a long essay critiquing the band’s dumb lyrics."

am I the only one that thinks that Propagandhi are selling out band that is almost completely responsible for thier success. (ie. NOFX) ?
Did Fat Wreck not give Propagandhi a home, when no other labels wanted them? Just wondering.

Did I hear something about two new GR songs?

yea, i read one comment on it. you'd think people would be talking about that all over the threads.

No, the Man I Killed is obviously about the President.

Any of you bitches that got the free sampler want to post the tracklisting? Did I hear something about two new GR songs?

" it reminds me of Screeching Weasel's Teen Punks in Heat. a ladder release, simple music, awesome lyrics, flowing production, great fuckin' record."

It always makes me happy to see props for Teen Punks In Heat. It's my favorite Screeching Weasel album.

The Man I Killed isn't really about any perticular person being killed. It's just about capital punishment. You people overthink everything.

"I really hope the Subhumans are not liberal. Dead Kennedys maybe (now, not then). The Sex Pistols were apolitical."

What the fuck are you smoking?! The Subhumans were definately liberal...er as "liberal" as a Brit can be. The Dead Kennedys entire discography is based on politics. And the Sex Pistols...God Save the Queen and Anarchy in the UK...maybe not completely liberal, but showing a dislike for standard democracy and a questioning of the government. A call out against what was wrong in England. COME ON! Punk has ALWAYS been political and has ALWAYS leaned to the left. Go listen to From the Cradle to the Grave by the Subhumans to get a sense of their political leanings and "liberal" views. As for the Dead Kennedys...We've Got An Even Bigger Problem Know...at least I think that's what it's called. The songs of listed are the most blatant displays of the bands political ideology, but almost all of the Subhumans, Dead Kennedys, and, to a lesser extent the Sex Pistols, have some political sensibility to them. Don't talk about punk if you don't know about punk. Period.

"once celled creature" is most definitely about chris hannah. this is something that a poster on the g7 blog said about this:

"Propagandhi’s jabs at NOFX raise valid points, whereas Fat Mike making fun of a goofy, tongue-in-cheek photo is just kind of weird and stupid. Sort of like reviewing “This Is Spinal Tap” and writing a long essay critiquing the band’s dumb lyrics."

i agree.

fuckyouoioioi,

ofcourse its possible to say "one celled creature" is about chris..

besides the fact that i'm saying it, which proves its possible....

there are many tips to make one believe this is so..

there are plenty of signals that make me think its about him and since i just got outta class for the day i think i'll do it::::

Life on a mattress in a robe,
in a room full of emptiness

[refering to the picture of "glen lambert" aka chris hannah in the booklet of potemkin city limits]

Knowledge has much better uses than self-pitty and superiority

[this , in the least, is commentary on chris/glen's outlook that he portrays in pictures,interviews, lyrics]

Maybe you are or could be the next Hoffman, Mahatma, or Chomsky
But no one will ever know
A sum of your parts are not gonna change any hearts
not with hate in your eyes

["a sum of your parts" might seem familiar.. this to me is another blatant signal that it could be about chris.. propagandhi's song anti-manifesto has the line "A sum of our parts and I've never laughed harder...a song in our hearts and ive never laughed harder..."
play on the idea of a actual creature with one cell]

In order to lead by example you have to show a path to a better world,
not a cell"

I am not offering this as the black and white answer..
you can read in to it however u want.. this is just how it makes sense to me

since humans usually try to make sense out of what they encounter , this is merely what im doing...

you agreed with my opinion of 'the man i killed" ... that seems like even more of a stretch in my mind..
do u just really hate the fact that someone is talking shit about the guy (chris) who likes to talk shit about everyong and everything else?

if so.. i know how u feel

Awesome album.
My favorite tracks:
USA-Holes
The Man I Killed
We March to the Beat of an Indifferent Drum
and although I had already heard it on Never Trust a Hippy, The Marxist Brothers.
A worthy follow-up to The War on Errorism

cyathrea (or whatever the fuck your name is): I agree with your diagnosis of "Man I Killed".

but, i'm not so sure about the one-celled creature thing. sure that was the first thing that popped into my mind, but nofx knows more people than we know about and writes deragotory songs about them on pretty much every album (see: "cheese/wheres my slice", "day to daze", "bob", "happy guy", "jeff wears birkenstocks" (although i know who that one is about), etc. etc. etc.

so i don't think its possible to say that song is about chris. if we did, we'd be two victims of the black and white...

about the one celled creature thing...if you see the world for what it really is, how could you NOT have a depressed view for the future?
this record's pretty good, i don't see why a bunch dislike it. it reminds me of Screeching Weasel's Teen Punks in Heat. a ladder release, simple music, awesome lyrics, flowing production, great fuckin' record.

I really hope the Subhumans are not liberal. Dead Kennedys maybe (now, not then). The Sex Pistols were apolitical.

---I've only commented on here twice. i dont wanna take the time to create an account cuz i know i might get too wrapped up in most of this rediculous discussion about which album is better and all that lame shit----

heres my name though: CYTHEREA

how bout this.... lets discuss what we think about the lyrics, like what we think they might be about.. let's try not to think in such black and white terms...cuz if u really pay attention you'd remember " too bad the world not work that way"..

i've already mentioned what i thought about "one celled creature"... it's about nofx's view of chris hannah (guitarist of propagandhi) and his slip into a more depressed view for the future.... at least thats what ive come to think about the song - no one else has offered a better answer besides it just being a joke-

secondly, what about the song "the man i killed"?
it's definitely a catchy song.. one that was released on their 7'' of the month club deal but was all folk acoustic...
after thinking about the lyrics i've come to think it's about a future assassination of the president....possibly Dubya..
the first thing that made me think this was his line about the man's "beady eyes". In nofx's older song "idiot son of an asshole" he says

"beady eyes, and kinda dislexic..."

also, at the very end of "the man i killed" the lyrics say as the man is about to be killed for his act, a priest kneels down and basically tells him that the man-he-killed's replacement (Dick Chaney) planned the whole scenario... and what he did , didnt really matter in the end because think about it...Chaney is just as greedy, if not greedier

anyway thats another of my additions to the commentary of this album...

lets try to break this album down and see that theres more too it than it seems...

--CYTHEREA

Not worth owning. 2 good tracks. I am a NOFX fan but I think it's time to hang it up.

This album is boring all around. One might argue that they use the same formula on every album, and yeah, it usually works...but this time around it's just overkill. There's nothing new and exciting about this release.

Yeah, it's cool they have stuff to say, and most of the time, they are completely right, but if the music is gonna start to blow this much...why doesn't Fat Mike and crew just coin "NOFX: The Book"...and leave the music to rest.

Man,
that to me was one of the best reviews i've ever read about an album. I couldn't have agreed more.
well done to the reviewer

This album is growing on me. The first time I listened to it, I would've given it about a 6, but now it's an 8 for sure. Addictive.

I got this album. Probably should have thought more about the purchase as my musical tastes have matured slightly from when I thought errorism was a good effort. even though I will always defend nofx to the deth, I doubt I will listen to this often if at all. Story goes if you only got one or a couple of NOFX albums dont get this, if your in the 10 album fanatic catagory go buy another style of music diversify it doesnt mean you have to stop listening to NOFX.

I looooove the spanish song before "100 times fuckeder.".!! It compliments it soo well... ITs soo a la punk in drublic,the track before "how did the cat get so fat" . My favorite tune on wolves is "cruel and unusual punishment", I loove the guitar in it,soo good,could go down as one of the best melodies/riffs not only in punk but in rock n roll and all music of all time. Favorite track on the e.p is "golden boys", and favorite on the 7"inches is "jamaica's alright".

HA HA HA HAHAHAhahahahahaha
(i'm laughing).
I don't shit on your musical opinions at all. You can prefer any album you want AND explain why you do to make it constructive or at least interesting. But I shit and puke on those (maybe not you at all) who insult each other crying out that everybody must like this album because it's good and the ones who like this other one are stupid because it sucks. It's like they want us to change our point, kinda "oh yeah you're finally right, I got no taste ! Insult me again and I'll adopt yours."
Maybe I shouldn't have been clearer. Sorry bout that.

The wacky foreigner.

shitting on others musical opinions and then sharing your own is what being an american suburban 'punk' is all about. you wacky foreigner.

Paul

"This album is the best ! No this one ! Are you kiddin it's this one ! Fuck you this one sucks. Here's my list. Here's mine."
Do you all want everyone else to think the way you do ?
I thought this kind of freedoms were important for punks.
So.... fuck you all who review people's tastes. I suppose you do know what is anarchy about... You do not even talk like democ-rats.

cordially, JL (sorry pour mon maybe shitty anglais).

My turn! Could change tomorrow though.

Studio full lengths:

1. Drublic
2. Shoes
3. Zoo (that's right!)
4. Errorism (uh huh!)
5. Ribbed
6. White Trash
7. Wolves
8. Valuum
9. Airlines
10. Animation
108. Maximum

I honestly have to say...I fucking love this record.

And for those who say that the record is not cohesive...

this is punk rock. Punk rock is best when served quickly and randomly.

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i think this might actually be nofx's most solid album in a long time. there aren't really any songs i find boring unlike the last album which had a few.

The end of the song wolves in wolves clothing reminds me of LAX by big d

wolves in wolves clothing. too middle of the road. it doesnt explore anything new, its really not that fun...its just vanilla flavor nofx. nothing to piss off or alienate old school fans, but nothing to keep them interested either. i'd rather just put on 'so long' which is the closest album theyve doen before to what I think this one is like. its ok. 'leaving jesusland' and 'seeing double' are pretty classic. but not 'bob' or 'linoleum' or hell, even 'dinosaurs must die' classic. I'm just kinda bored with it. nothings funny enough, nothings obnoxious enough...its just there. its pretty uninspired. and i'm sick of mike making such a big deal about how they're old now and blah blah the scene today sucks....he started doing that with 'seperation of church and skate' and now its even more blatant. hes getting too bogged down with yesterday. the scene, himself, even nofx.

i reposted just this part so that those of you, who like me, wont read a long rambling post but will make your own will at least read the part thats about the new album.

paul

Cool and Unusual Punishment is the worst song on here easy.

it's the mattersville of this album

haha, dude, mattersille is like linoleum compared to cool and unusual punishment. that song falls into the category of...well nofx songs that go nowhere, and only the 10-15 or so of fat mikes friends actually 'get it'.

or i coulda just wrote this

"This just sounds like a Nofx record. A few awesome songs and a lot of not so great songs"

yep.

Paul

well i only get to do this every 2 years....

1.punk in drublic-most solid, so many classics, defined mid 90's 'skate punk', defined nofx, and made a bunch of 13-25 year old guys really like punk rock in its pureist sense...well, purest if you consider pure punk rock fast mid 90's skate punk. it has linoleum on it. therefore, their best album.

2. the decline-yea its one song, yea its 18minutes, yea its not a full length, but its probably the best thing fat mike ever wrote, artistically, lyrically and musically. its everything nofx was, done at its best. fat mike at his peak as a songwriter.

3.pump up the valium-this album to me was just so fun, it is without a doubt the funnest nofx album that you can still sit through. its right on par with

4.so long-which is right on par with valium. why valium higher? cuz the second half of 'so long' is kinda weak by comparison. other than 'desperations gone' and 'quart in session' the second half kinda blows after the awesome first 7 songs, which is maybe the strongest section of any nfox album. but i love 'thank god its monday' and 'dinosaurs' so valium gets the nod.

5.white trash-its got bob, liza and louise, stickin in my eye, soul doubt...its really fuckin good. but vocally, musically..it just isnt what they were about to become, but its still damn good.

heres where the list starts to go down hill

6.war on errorism TIE heavy petting zoo. the two most misunderstood nofx albums. heavy petting zoo saw mike exploring new song styles and structures, and ended up with a mixed bag. amazing songs like 'freedom lika shopping cart' get bogged down with some garbagio like 'liza'. it wasnt very fun, and mike quickly rebounded with the fan pleasing and much more fun and classic 'so long'

errorism saw mike again exploring some new sounds and structures and his political leanings became much more blatant (franco unamerican, idiots are taking over, etc.). it was his call to arms against george bush, but it really had some solid moments and some fun ones too. anarchy camp is great.

7. wolves in wolves clothing. too middle of the road. it doesnt explore anything new, its really not that fun...its just vanilla flavor nofx. nothing to piss off or alienate old school fans, but nothing to keep them interested either. i'd rather just put on 'so long' which is the closest album theyve doen before to what I think this one is like. its ok. 'leaving jesusland' and 'seeing double' are pretty classic. but not 'bob' or 'linoleum' or hell, even 'dinosaurs must die' classic. I'm just kinda bored with it. nothings funny enough, nothings obnoxious enough...its just there. its pretty uninspired. and i'm sick of mike making such a big deal about how they're old now and blah blah the scene today sucks....he started doing that with 'seperation of church and skate' and now its even more blatant. hes getting too bogged down with yesterday. the scene, himself, even nofx.

ribbed, s/m arilines, liberal animation. if you can still listen to any of these in sequence, without getting bored, tired, or annoyed, hey, kudos to you. you're probably that same guy who doesnt mind sitting through local acts. they are worth a laugh. but man...even 'moron brothers' is starting to sound pretty...pretty fuckin bad.

and if you want to count it as an album, '45 or 46 songs' is probably in the top 4. some of those outtakes and comp songs were some of the best they ever did.

Paul.

oh well, at least its new nofx. who am i kidding. if they make another album, i'll buy it too. its nofx. come on now

This album is tits. I dig The Man I Killed especially.

Liberal cunts, eh? If you hate punk, go elsewhere. Nearly EVERY punk band since the Sex Pistols have been "liberal cunts". If, of course, you consider question your government "liberal". Look back at every major punk band throughout history. The Sex Pistols, the Dead Kennedys, the Subhumans, etc etc. And NOFX has always leaned to the left. So it's you who is the cunt, for going to a punk site even though you hate punk. Go fuck yourself!

leaving jesusland's breakdown's are truly awful whereas usa-holes are magnificent

the sniping and lyrical references are obviously tongue in cheek, hell fat even laughed about the prop lyrics on their website

Aubin, I have to disagree with your casting of Leaving Jesusland. Other than that, it's a great song.

NOFX are fucking liberal cunts.

Another top notch album from the boys. Of course there is some filler but a good 70 % of the songs are fucking pure nofx goodness.

Filler in a nofx album shouldnt be something to complain about. To each their own and after 150 - 200 songs over 23 years I guess you just have to expect that every single song just isnt gonna be a classic!

Amen NOFX! Keepin it real!

hey sorry CUAPUNKRADIO

this was the first time ive read this review..i scrolled down a good while , but i could only read so many to see if anyone mentioned it...

i think i saw someone say it was all tongue in cheek and that theyd leave eachother if they were being serious.. i think thats a really good point to bring up.. its hard to think theyd just be doing this for drama..theyve disagreed on other things i believe.. and i read Chris' journal entry about how disheartening it was getting tons of emails about the situation between the 2 of them, and not more emails about how some guy was in jail (i cant remember the exact person)...

its hard to take sides... each of them make good points..

...I side with Propaghandi

I think this album is way way way better than war on errorism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! album should be scored an 8!

for the kid who said that no one has brought up the 'one celled creature' jab. i brought up that exact point about a week ago i think in the nofx e-card thread. i think fat mike has really taken the potshots to a new level. and i think his criticisms hold more clout than hannahs. i said it.

the comment about one celled creature is pretty enlightening. thank you. I would have never ever noticed that, since i stole potemkin city limits and dont have any of the album art. the lyrics (and the song) are so much better now. i love interpunk jabs. like back in teh day when joey vindictive and ben weasel used to smash pies in each others face. joey really liked the pie i think.

I think Fat Mike reads this and he'll be spewing that Atreyu beat him on PUNK news.

Yes, I'm sure Fat Mike will be devastated that a random 17-year-old thinks the new Atreyu is spectacular and that long-time NOFX fan Aubin Paul merely thinks the new NOFX is merely pretty good.

Leighton, there is no correlation between these two whatsoever other than the fact that both chose to convey those opinions through a CD review. Why do people always assume the opinion of one represents a publication as a whole? It's never, ever the case, but this is such a persistent attack against any sort of music publication it's mind-boggling.

Y A C O P S A E is coming to the US for 4 east coast shows. Turbo Speed Violence!!!

-Ken

I'm pretty sure it's all tongue in cheek. Fat Mike mentioned Todays Empires in "The Marxist Brothers", and a recent Propagandhi news post said that they got the idea to ebay their merch from that song.

If Fat Mike was really that pissed at Propagandhi, he would drop them from his label. If Propagandhi were really that pissed at NOFX, they would leave his label.

'm curious as to how anyone who has paid attention to NOFX and Propagandhi didn't pick up on the lyrical content of NOFX's song "ONE CELLED CREATURE" ?

whoever did this original review was wrong in easily stating this particular song was a tribute to the adolescents song.

if you own Propagandhi's latest album Potemkin City Limits (A cd that i have listen through countless times) there was an obvious shot taken at Fat Mike in their song "Rock For Sustainable Capitalism" . In the cd booklet there was a picture of singer Chris Hannah - in a red robe, in a very small room with a mattress.. look up the lyrics to NOFX's song...actually just read there right here and see for yourself..

"Life on a mattress - in a robe, in a room full of emptiness
Knowledge has much better uses than self pity and superiority
Maybe you are , or could be the next Hoffman, Mahatma (ghandi), or Chomsky but no one will ever know.
A sum of your parts are not gonna change any hearts, not with hate in your eyes.. In order to lead by example you have to show the path to a better world, not a cell."

Im sad that i havent heard or read anything written about this back and forth criticism of each other... I find it extremely interesting, even though theres a chance that its all a joke...i dont know though..

but for sure - this is the boldest song on the album..
it would be silly to take a side in this feud..and wanting to know about it doesnt help make things any better...but it shows us while both bands are taking on bigger issues than most bands (propagandhi actually would have to deserve the most credit for doing this) that they are still immune to these smaller battles..

interesting..

but damn, i wish i had some more information on this

I think Fat Mike reads this and he'll be spewing that Atreyu beat him on PUNK news.
It is a sad day.
I still haven't heard this cd but I will form my opinion soon.
I'm one of those NOFX fans that has to hear The Decline once before death.
If anyone wants a laugh at a try hard profile picture, here's my entry into the comp.....
www.myspace.com/LeightonESmith

This just sounds like a Nofx record. A few awesome songs and a lot of not so great songs.

this record rocks ! Sometimes I like to say, they've never been so good as actual !

what exactly "sucks" about liberal animation? if youre going to decry an album, at least give some reasoning.

Best NOFX albums.

War on Errorism
Wolves in Wolves Clothing
Punk in Drublic
So Long and Thanks for All the Shoes
Heavy Petting Zoo
Pump up th Valium

Liberal Animation is so fucking horrible. omg it sucks. im sorry, i love nofx, but i bet even they will agree that this album sucks.

one of my favorite songs on wolves is doornails. even though its slow, its really cool.

i myself, didnt really like valuum or war on errorism.
this album, i feel, is a return to form.
LOLZ MY TURN TO RANK ROLF
(1) Liberal Animation
(2) Heavy Petting Zoo
(3)White Trash
(4) Punk in Drublic
(5) S & M Airlines
-everything else
i like my punk music to actually be recorded like punk music, studio gloss is for pop princesses. give me cracks and whistles. give me distorted vocals.

Punk In Drublic is hideously overrated. It's such a mediocre record, So Long..., White Trash, War on Errorism, those are all much more listenable and fun and better. Yeah. PUNXORS 4E!!!!1111!!!!

Since everyone else is doing it, I guess I will, too. (I'm excluding "The Decline.")

1.White Trash, Two Heebs, And A Bean
2.So Long And Thanks For All The Shoes
3.Punk In Drublic
4.War On Errorism
5.Everything else...

VThat made me laugh my ass off.

And why the hell are fuckyouoioioi's myspace songs included as hidden tracks?

It's nofx.
Some great tracks, some skippable ones.

"s&m sucked, ribbed sucked, liberal animation sucked, the longest line was ok, white trash awesome, punk in drublic awesome, heavy petting zoo average, so long awesome, the decline awesome, pump up the valium bad, war on errorism bad (good lyrically though), this new one - ok"

Agreed on all accounts, though I wouldn't call Errorism "bad." Although it's definitely closer to bad than great.

Just downloaded this.. Never again will I listen to this garbage. 1 or 2 listenable songs. How do people like this?

I have to admit that the first time I listened to Wolves, I listened to it on my computer, and I was a bit disappointed, but I put it on my MP3 player and listened to it with headphones on and it was a lot better. I listened to it two or three times through and I have to say it's one of NOFX's better Albums. For me, they're best albums would go something like this:

Punk In Drublic
The Decline
The War On Errorism
TIE: White Trash and Wolves
Then after that...I guees So Long or Pump Up The Valuum

Wolves certainly isn't NOFX's best album, but it's definately worth a listen. There are a few songs that seem out of place, like Cantando En Espanol and Cool and Unusual Punishment, although I really did like the latter. Overall fantastic album.

No Sick of it all review? that shit is wild

"Andy's from Snuff"

almost correct. he was but passed 3 years ago. it may refer to another Andy as he wasn't the snuff bassist after 1998 but was the bassist before the original split

ps - heavt petting zoo is shit

melvin's vocals on Leaving Jesusland are just brutal,
I cringe everytime they hit.

note to Fat Mike: you and your band should never be mentioned in the same sentence/song lyric as The Ramones.

Everyone seems to dislike "Heavy Petting Zoo." I love that album. "Freedom Like A Shopping Cart" kicks ass.

theres no real fast songs like white trash, punk in drublic and so long.

s&m sucked, ribbed sucked, liberal animation sucked, the longest line was ok, white trash awesome, punk in drublic awesome, heavy petting zoo average, so long awesome, the decline awesome, pump up the valium bad, war on errorism bad (good lyrically though), this new one - ok

PuNk RoCkEr bOi:

Kill yourself you little 8 year old.

best nofx song

dont call me white

what's your opinion?

from this record i choose the man i killed

anti flag suck cock....im sorry but they really do

you guys are idiots.
liberal animation shreds!
A200 club!!!

"Gayest name you've ever seen"?

Fuck you.

I find it hard to imagine that so many of the people that hate the new Anti-Flag love this...sonically the two albums aren't too far off from each other, and politically they're very similiar. The only difference as far as I was concerned is that the new Anti-Flag was better overall, but this album doesn't take itself so seriously, which is a good thing.

"I've not heard of this band but are they anything like The Used.
My pal who is a big The Used fan loves this group.
I love the Used more than the world . Will I love this?
PuNk ROckEr BOi"
This is sarcasm right? That is the gayist name I've seen.
Brokeback Mountain Man-

lynn and dobbs is a snot reference

they were pretty cool for a rap rock band

This is just a good cd hands down, not the best nofx, but I`m sure happy they put it out!

The guy who said Pump up the Valuum was NOFX at their "peak".....you've gotta be kidding.

1. Punk in Drublic
2. White Trash
3. So Long...
4. Decline

...the rest.

heres the fucking list, 1-ribbed
2-white trash
3-s&m airlines

so like can nofx ever really write a song thats a 'response' to potemkin city limits....

Because it would be kind of like responding to King Kong with Koko the talking gorilla.

i reckon one celled creature is a pretty righteous response

I've not heard of this band but are they anything like The Used.

My pal who is a big The Used fan loves this group.

I love the Used more than the world . Will I love this?

PuNk ROckEr BOi

Andy's from Snuff, Jason could be either Thirsk (although it's over 10 years now) or the singer of RKL who died recently.

Score is for the album, good not great

jockmcbored -

It's cool that you used "Slow Chorus Overlap" as an example. I've always said that if I had to show someone the essence of 90's skate punk with one song, it would be that one.

That said, this album is pretty damn good. A billion times better than Errorism.

cheers, my missus is into RnB but loves that song. i quite liked errorism but again no real standout tracks apart from "whoops i od'd"

is it me or are nofx's better songs now becoming the acoustic ones?

Lynn is Lynn Strait from Santa Barbara's Snot. Lynn was a friend to many of this group. Dobbs is Lynn's dog, who was always by his side and died simultaneously with Lynn in a car crash. Dobbs is featured upon the cover of Snot's Get Some album.

"accept that everyone has a differet taste"

yeah, so why even bother to write a review, lets give all albums the best rating. cause its not possible that a band releases a crap or mediocre album...

come on guys.... accept that everyone has a differet taste.... stop this
only 5 good songs blablabla crap

Some more guesses about Doornails:

"Bradley".... Nowell from Sublime?
"Jason".... Thirsk from Pennywise?

I have no clue on:

Andy
Lumpy
Friday
Lynn, Dobbs.

Anyone have any insight?

Who all is Doornails about? I've figured out Derrick Plourde, Jim Cherry and Bommer from RKL

so futurama, anyway, is anyone else pumped its going to come back in one off movies?

What happens to scruffy the janitor? Does the professor use the finger longerer on leela? is the best trick the robot devil ever pulled that no one believes he exists?

so like can nofx ever really write a song thats a 'response' to potemkin city limits....

Because it would be kind of like responding to King Kong with Koko the talking gorilla.

And, kong just ripped a t-rex's bottom and top jaw apart, i saw it, seeing stuff doesnt lie, it was real, that shit was raw.

wyzo

Why has no one mentioned "Doornails"? it's a nice tribute track.

-phdecontrol

I was listening to SLATFATS the other day, and as I thumped "It's My Job to Keep Punk Rock Elite," I had the thought, "My goodness, FM sure did a shitty job."

good album, great band.

notfeelingcreative, that list kinda sucks

that p.o.s. album is fucking trash

ahhh i hit post too soon. i meant to say, i agree with you fuckyouoioioi, except keep leaving jesusland. everything in moderation and im going to hell for this one are such fucking good songs.

I take back what i said. this album is complete and flows nicely with the exception of: Jesusland, Getting High, Cool and Unusual. Instead of those should be: You're Wrong (punk version), I am going to Hell for this one, Everything in Moderation (or Golden Boys). And "You will lose your faith" should be the acoustic version.

and this album is about showing them as aging punk rockers.

with those changes it would get this score.

I take back what i said. this album is complete and flows nicely with the exception of: Jesusland, Getting High, Cool and Unusual. Instead of those should be: You're Wrong (punk version), I am going to Hell for this one, Everything in Moderation (or Golden Boys). And "You will lose your faith" should be the acoustic version.

Nofx was at their peak with the 1-2 punch of the Decline and Pump up the Valuum.

The list goes:
Good Records
1. The Decline
2. Pump up the Valuum
3. Punk in Drublic
4. Heavy Petting Zoo
5. White Trash
6. So Long
7. Errorism
8. Longest Line
9. Ribbed

Bad records:
S/M Airlines
Maximum Rock N'Roll
Liberal animation

I don't see why people think it lacks cohesiveness. I believe there are three-four songs in the middle of the cd that flow together perfectly with no pause inbetween songs.

The Man I Killed is my favorite song by far and it might be the best song this band has ever written......besides the Decline.

jockmcbored -

It's cool that you used "Slow Chorus Overlap" as an example. I've always said that if I had to show someone the essence of 90's skate punk with one song, it would be that one.

That said, this album is pretty damn good. A billion times better than Errorism.

anyone thinking this is the best record of the year tells me they've only heard 1 record so far. this is pretty mediocre at best.

"please tell me one record released this year better than this one."

how about you tell me one record released this year worse than this one?

this should be a much shorter list

"please tell me one record released this year better than this one."

Moneen's "The Red Tree"

just ok

where do i start.....

usa-holes is great.
man i killed is great and is the first almost "standard" punk song they;ve done (light, guitars crash, light, guitars crash)

the spanish song is total jizz.

great band, good album but as ever there are no outstanding songs in the vein of:

slow chorus overlap
libertine
hopeless romantic
walking is still honest

anyone actually put any NOFX songs on mix CDs/tapes apart from linoleum? i don't but i still love 'em

ps - saw bouncing souls in leeds tonight - weren't much cop and i love them to death - bugger

1. this album is decent, but nothing exceptional. little replay value. it has already gotten old for me.

2. to say "NOFX has always been NOFX" is a joke. compare Liberal Animation to anything they've released in the last decade, then tell me it's the same shit. it's an entirely different band (thank God). if you had said they've had the same sound for the past ten years....THAT would be an accurate statement.

"those neutrals, with their suspicious neutrality.....

what, no one watches futurama?"

I was at work, sorry.

"There. Now no one can say I don't own John Larroquette's spine."

maverick/scott: listen a few more times and the music starts to flow. it all sounds more coherent once you forget where you heard the songs first. I think this is a solid album, a lot of these songs will be awesome live.

it seems to me that all NOFX albums have shit songs on em mean even punk in drublic had my heart is yearning. its just a charachteristic of their albums

"please tell me one record released this year better than this one."

You want a list? So far we've had:

Lawrence Arms "Oh Calcutta" (mentioned already)
Loved Ones-Keep Your Heart"
Bigwig-"Reclamation"
POS-"Audition"

I also have high hopes for the new Coup album dropping next week, as well as the upcoming releases from NMDS ing bouncing souls, which I haven't heard, but I believe it will probably be better than this. I love NOFX but this is far from the record the year!

i kinda like the lack of cohesiveness here, just sounds like pure fun

"So while taking it from both sides..." HAHAHAHAHA. NOFX takes it both ways.

well, "white trash..." is the best.
and errorism is way better than this one here, this one sounds like a b-side compilation of errorism, and not even a good one. around 4 to 5 good songs, the rest is filling it up so it doesnt seem like a big rip off. nofx, next time, wait till you have enough real good songs for a new album and not "just" songs.

good fair review by the way.

The other Scott's right. That list is 100% spot-on.

This record is so half-assed, it's not even funny. A complete letdown.

-Scott

I can't belive some people like Errorism better than this.

Errorism had like 5 good songs on it. This has at least 12

This is their best album since Never Trust a Hippie

here. this is list is correct. yours is wrong.

1. punk in drublic
2. the decline
3. white trash
4. so long
5. errorism
6. everything else

Better than War On Errorism, for sure. And Pump Up The Valuum....the best since The Decline.

War on Errorism was the first I heard, but "White Trash" is probably my favorite proper album. "The Decline" is the best thing they've ever recorded.

This new one is pretty solid, but it seems like there is some filler and it's just really sloppy and thrown together. Definitely seems like they only gave about the "60%" they admit to on the first album. "USA-Holes" "The Man I Killed" and "60%" are probly my favorites.

good review. you put into words my feeling of mild dissapointment, it comes from lack of cohesiveness. still a great album though.

"please tell me one record released this year better than this one."

Oh! Calcutta! was far better than this.

As was Never Trust a Hippy and The War on Errorism

So much better than "war on errorism", not quite as good as some of their other releases.

not bad, not great.

what a shitty review .. 1/2 star for a nofx album ? What a fucking joke. He obviously doesn't know music and he should go back to playing pogs.

I love NOFX still and will toss on their most recent albums all the time, but mostly the Decline. Probably the best So-Cal punk CD ever BTW.

I had to change the playlist of this album, cause some of the 7 inch songs I've been listening to already for close to a year:

- USA-Holes (I didn't want to have to wade through the first version of 60% to get to this and Triple Rock, these songs rule.)
- Seeing Double At The Triple Rock
- We March to the Beat Of Indifferent Drums
- Everything in Moderation (Awesome, awesome song. Should be longer, but it's rad enough as it is. Shoulda made the album.)
- The Man I Killed
- Benny Got Blowed Up (I didnt over kill this 7incher song yet)
- Golden Boys (Why leave this off?)
- Going To Hell For This One
- Wolves in Wolves Clothing
- Cantado en Espanol (It fits will between Wolves and 100)
- 100 Times Fuckder
- You Will Lose Faith
- One Celled Creature
- Doornails
- 60% Reprise

The japanese song and Instant Crassic, Marxist Bros,as well as Jesus Land and the 10 minutes of testing acoustic versions of songs, see you later. This easily could have been a perfect album leaving some of the 7inch stuff off, and putting some of the EP stuff on. It still leaves it at 15 songs, which is EASILY enough.

Still a cool album that i'll listen to for a year I'm sure. I don't really listen to WOE or PUTV anymore... but I felt the same way about them when they came out as well. I can see how Fatty would be proud of the Decline and SLATFATS.

i do not understand how a man who is supposed to be following the commandment of "thou shalt not kill" can

well

kill

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28151

please tell me one record released this year better than this one.

we demand too much from this guys.

they still doing good music and this effort is full variety and talent.

Yesss, cool and unusual is the low point for sure. good thing cd players come buttons that allow you to skip.

Cool and Unusual Punishment is the worst song on here easy.

it's the mattersville of this album.

I really like the song The Man I Killed, but I think it's too short.
That being said, I agree that the songs are all thrown together and sound rushed. Who mixed this?
They should have never done the 7" club thing. That was just stupid.
This cd sounds more like a NOFX compilation of unreleased tracks rather than an actual album that is supposed to flow together.

I like this album a lot. Like most have already said, some songs aren't really worth listening to (Instant Crassic) but the rest make up for it.

Best songs = "The Man I Killed", "We March To The Beat Of Indifferent Drum"

And I might be the only man on this planet that thinks it, but I can't say Punk In Drublic is anywhere close to their best....it just bores me, save "perfect government" and maybe a couple others.

NOFX - Wolves in Wolves' Clothing
Posted by on 2006-04-21 02:00:09

2. They have always sounded like NOFX. They did then and they do now.

Umm... that's balderdash. Liberal Animation and S&M Airlines are absolute dogshit, barely listenable, and only good for historical purposes. Ribbed is a mixed bag, at best. It wasn't until White Trash that this band started to be worth getting excited about.
i could give some wordy reply, but i think "eat shit" will suffice.
score is for the current album

i mean COME ON that is the fucking easiest one to follow

i do not understand how a man who is supposed to be following the commandment of "thou shalt not kill" can

well

kill

Good NOFX album overall. Not great. I like WOE better than this but this one has a few really awesome songs and a few which just really aren't that special. I would have liked to ave seen some of the songs taken from the 7 inches replaced with different ones from the 7 inches.

those neutrals, with their suspicious neutrality.....

what, no one watches futurama?

"tell my wife i said hello." - one of my favorite futurama lines

this album is not very good. i've only listened to it once so far, but it didn't hold my attention the way that errorism did on first listen.

It's a good thing this record has so many tracks. There's 5 songs that I think should be taken off, and on a normal length album, that would be only 7 or 8 tracks left.

But if you take off Leaving Jesusland, Getting High..., Cool and Unusual Punishment, Cantado and Instant Crassic, that leaves 13 tracks, all fucking GOLDEN.

With those 5 tracks gone, it leaves a normal amount of songs, and some of the best stuff NOFX has ever done.

the dudes are old. As I said in another post, "The desperation's Gone."
It sucks that people have to buy this shit because it feels very "thrown together" and the songs lack the fucking rawness that NofX you to spill. There is only like 2 fast songs. The best part of it, is how they admit that they don't even have to try.

can someone describe what this is a cover of? is there more to it? dudes lined up, one is on the floor with a broken arm? what is little poof on last standing man? is there meaning deeper?

- Fedor

Aubin sucks cock...he's very good at it too...

This is something I'm wondering.
How many people here's favorite NoFX album is the first one they heard?
Because that seems to be the case for a lot of people. I know Punk In Drublic is my favorite, and that was the first real album I heard (after I Heard They Suck Live).

The Man I Killed is my favorite track

More like Fags in Wolves Clothing.

i agree with the score. i bought this on Tuesday and while the first listen left me wanting more, now that im on my 5th or 6th listen, its growing on me, just like every album of theirs does. the songs i like the best are as follows, in this order:

-Leaving Jesusland
-60%
-Seeing Double at the Triple Rock
-Wolves in Wolves Clothing
-You Will Lose Faith
-USA-holes
-60%(reprise)

the rest of the songs dont make much of a mark on my radar, and thats fine, because its just good to have another of thier albums in my cd player. its almost comforting when a new NOFX album comes out. ive gotten everyone since Punk In Drublic on the day it came out, and i'll probably never stop.

Liberal Animation has some quality songs on it!!! Sloppy English and On The Rag are amazing!!

You guys are fucking crazy. I've seen Valuum, Heavy Petting, and the Decline mentioned as the best NOFX albums.

White Trash and Drublic are cleeearrrly their best. There is no discussion. It's undebatable. Stop the insanity.

shitty.

NOFX is the shit. I think it would be difficult to stay as focused as they were on Ribbed, White trash and the other classics when you have been around so long and are getting older. I am staisfied and think that they will never be able to recapture what they once were. Compared to other modern punk NOFX is better thatn almost all of it.

ehhh. nothing memorable. too many throw away songs. not awful, but it's already out of my rotation for the week. i'll go with white trash or punk in drublic next time i want to listen to nofx.

I've always enjoyed "Liberal Animation." Sure, it's quite rough but there are some killer riffs and it's just an overall fun record. I don't think that "Maximum Rocknroll" gets shit on nearly as much as "Liberal", which I think is unfair. THAT record is basically unlistenable.

That all said, I love "Wolves" too.

to the kid below me.....uhhh yea, i'd say their centrists. remember that whole, punkvoter, rock against bush, vote for kerry thing? the same kerry who voted for deploying troops in iraq, whose voted for deploying troops pretty much anywhere going as far back as Panama?

Good review. Agreed that their is too much filler and i personally think War On Errorism is better. Some of the songs on here just sound tame and rushed. Disappointing.

Am I the only one that thinks White Trash... is their best?

No, That is my favorite as well. I just don't think a lot of the kids on hear are really old enough to have full appreciation for the album.

i agree with that dude that said the "golden years" for NOFX were "PUTV" and "The Decline". those albums are perfect. and their best.

i don't actually own this one yet, (little bit poor at this time), but from what i've heard from the ep and the album stream, it sounds really good. nice mix of political sensibility and classic fun nofx. not sure if it's quite as good as war on errorism, but like i said, i don't own it yet. repeated listening will tell.
great review too. just one disagreement i have. nofx as centrist? in my opinion, if these guys leaned any harder to the left, they'd tip over. (but hey, so do i)

Solid record. It sounds like NOFX and lyrics are good. It's good that they've dropped the serious politics, that's just not there style. Funny, fast and melodic. That's the shit. NOFX is THE punk band.

And by the way... Fuck everyone who talks shit about NOFX.

after a few listenings i really get into so i think is their second best record and by far better than so long...

best records of the year
1-ignite
2-nofx
3-ryan's hope

but i'll wait for rise against

this album is boring and medicore at best
there is way too much filler and no flow to the album at all
sounds like they just took a bunch of random songs and threw them together

solid album for sure, but nothing outstanding. too many songs, too much filler. Lots of tracks end really abruptly and much earlier than it seems they should. "Benny got Blowed Up" is the main one to come to mind. Still tracks like "USA-Holes" and "60%" and "Leaving Jesusland" among others are really good.

Anyone who ever tries to mock Christians by going "Where is your god now?" deserves to be slapped hard round the face. Pointless, moronic assholery, which just makes the good kind of assholery seem lame by association.

Great review. I've been on the fence about how I feel about this record in regards to the rest of the NOFX "ouerve" (look it up). The comment about a lack of cohesiveness is pretty spot-on, but it's still a strong NOFX record. "Triple Rock" is a strong first single, and "Doornails" is a great tribute to fallen friends.

Fans will love the the 11-minute "hidden track" with Fat Mike demoing snippets of various tracks for the rest of the band. Fun to watch the songs evolve.

Worst album cover art for a long while. Did they employ a 5 year old to do graphic design?

Pretty good review : i agree with most of it, although i don't like "Leaving Jesusland" nor think this record is « a solid entry » at all : 6 or 7 good/okay songs (including "Cantado en Español", which i kinda like) out of 18 : i can't give this album more than a 4/10. Maybe a 5, 'cause it's still NOFX, but a 7 is way overrated. This is their worst full-lentgh since Liberal Animation.

I won't call it a disappointment as i took the EP's mediocrity as a warning and didn't expected anything brilliant from this album. More than ten songs are bland, boring, lazy, unoriginal or, to put it in short, perfectly forgetable. As the reviewer said, the whole lacks cohesiveness and that's probably actually its biggest flaw (too many songs, too many songs !). It sounds like a big but bad patchwork of songs and melodies, perhaps a bit as did the Fat Club 7"s (same type of mediocre songs). And among the better songs, too many come to an end just when you're expecting them to start (e.g. : "Wolves...").

Still, a few tracks stand out like "Seeing Double", "We March..." or the electric version of "The Man I Killed", but don't make up for the failure of the album as a whole. Too bad.

Plus, the Jesus jokes are really getting old. NOFX are becoming too excessively and almost exclusively political and preachy, à la Propaghandi, but with a tongue-in-cheek approach, and that's both boring after a while and doesn't suit them that well. They should stick to their classic good mix of political/funny/pointless/drug or lesbian or whatever-related songs.

At what point can "one-celled creature" be only passingly mentioned as an adolescents tribute? are you fucking serious? "hey, i played tony hawk pro skater two, I heard that song amoeba!" fucking great guys. no one seems to realize its a response to "Rock for Sustainable Capatailism" off of Potemkin City Limits. Good job on letting that under the radar. Or maybe no one wants to bring it up.

NOFX's "golden years" lasted exactly 1.5 albums.... "Valuum" and "Decline." I think for me it has a lot to do with Hefe's new guitar tone, or possibly the overall production on the new stuff. It's definitely not as clean and powerful as it used to be.

I didn't know that they still had this good an album in them.
Some of these are great, except that benny song and the spanish one which I really can't get into, and some of the filler songs could have been replaced by fast short songs ('so long' style).
Way better than Errorism, and also slightly better than PUTV in my opinion.

Could've chopped off the first half of the review

My review is up at:

http://www.scenepointblank.com/reviews/768

It's a multiple review, the other is a 9/10

best album is probably "Heavy Petting Zoo".

i'm gonna change my score to 8.5

Oh, and the free Fat sampler is great too. Lovin' the two new Good Riddance tracks...

Aubin, I disagree. I think this is a really complete album. Although I thought it blew because of the lack of bass chords. I can't stop listening to it. I just put it on for 60% and before I know it, the entire album has gone by. Also, the lyrics to "USA-holes" are some of their best.

potemkin city limits>wolves in wolves' clothing

uh-oh....i said it......

as people below have said, the good songs are fucking GREAT, but there's a lot of songs on here that are pretty boring and sound uninspired to me.

Without a doubt the best NOFX album to date! The execution song gave me goosebumps and so did the tribute song at the end.

NOFX > pennywise

Pennywise's last album is the best shit they've done since Full Circle. Everything about it was great. It's a shame Epitaph pretends they don't exist anymore.

NOFX are like Pennywise. With every release, you know what you're gonna get and it's neither going to suck, nor particularly grab your attention anymore.

Although it's still better than a lot of the shit out there...

I'm gonna shout out to sickboi and ramo down there in the hopes of attaining some .org board cred.

Tough call on the best NOFX album, though. On any given day it could be Ribbed, So long... or Heavy Petting Zoo, but I think Happy Guy secures Drublic at the top on my list.

As for this album, I think the review was right on. Good songs, but it doesn't really flow anything like the aforementioned top albums. But hey, it's new NOFX, so I'm happy as a pig in a pile of Toby Keith records.

Also, I think War on Errorism gets a bad rap. Love that album. So there.

p.s. Where is Superdude?

"the oft-ignored centrist America"

those neutrals, with their suspicious neutrality.....

what, no one watches futurama?

Anyway, i listened to this once, and the production as always is top notch, but not much to really push.

If you've never heard NOFX, this is as good as any place to start. If your already a fan, you won't miss much if you never hear this, might get 1 or 2 spins out of it if you do.

Too erratic, too random, too short, and too boring. But for a few seconds it was alright. Next.

wyzo

One more thing to add to that last post. People please tell me your favorite 2-3 songs from this record. Maybe if I listen to them one at a time I will be able to enjoy them more.

NOFX is my favorite band, miles ahead of any other. I thought Errorism was their best full length since Punk in Drublic. This one, though, with a near-total lack of good aggression that NOFX has always been the master of, has not even allowed me to listen to the entire thing at once yet. I can't get through it. I've heard the first half of every song at least once, but even the best songs like Seeing Double pale wildly in comparison to almost everything on Erorrism, or most everything else they've done. My favorite song from the past year is I'm Going To Hell For This One and they wasted that on the EP, and again, doesn't hold a candle to other non-album tracks like Lower, The Plan, We Threw Gasoline.. etc.

This was my most anticipated album, and the biggest disappointment of the past year. Luckily Anti-Flag managed to come through unexpectedly and deliver the best suprise of the past year. No Trigger rocks too.

Ramo is my dog, we might be the longest running posters here...depressing, I know...

Well I personally would go for White Trash... then Punk in Drublic.

With that said, their latest reminds me of their last effortThe War On Errorism. Good but not that great.

Ramo

agreed with dude below me...white trash was the best. yes, better than punk in drublic

I'd say this is an 8. The songs that don't fit really don't do much for me. However, the good songs are fucking fantastic. It's uneven but it's still damn good. But hey, I'm a fan.
-Dante

2. They have always sounded like NOFX. They did then and they do now.

Umm... that's balderdash. Liberal Animation and S&M Airlines are absolute dogshit, barely listenable, and only good for historical purposes. Ribbed is a mixed bag, at best. It wasn't until White Trash that this band started to be worth getting excited about.

i bought this...was expecting the usual decent booklet with some funny musings from mike. come to find jack shit. just lyrics and no pictures. balls to that.

Great review.

Am I the only one that thinks White Trash...(/i) is their best?

"was the new Atreyu really a full star better than this?"

Thats why we need to start a petition to stop Crazy Toledo from hurting music.

very good review. i'm not the nofx fan i used to be, but i'll have to give this album a listen. what i really want to do though is find my "the decline" album. that is a classic for me always.

nofx is alright... but seriously, what the fuck is up with the cover art?

"i also think i'm one of the few who hated Valuum and loved Errorism"

no i agree with you. i thought Errorism was a great progression.

i think Cantado En Espanol fits in perfectly between those tracks.. i rather enjoy it as a humorous light break

overall, this album is great. solid NOFX.

What's good on here is REALLY good... but what's bad on here is pretty lame. But then again, you can say that about almost every NOFX album.

3.5 now? Wasn't it 3 stars 5 minutes ago? Afraid Fat is going to get pissed because you actually gave a decent review for a record instead of making it 5 stars?

"...an ode to getting completely shitfaced."

I love this website.

Erroroism?

Really though, great review and right on target. Although it begs the question: was the new Atreyu really a full star better than this?

with everybody talkin about how uncohesive this was, by the time i actually heard it i didnt think it was too bad off at all in terms of structure.

its a pretty good album but i dont think ill ever listen to it all the way through again. its so long

I've only listened to this a few times so far, but I think it's more consistent than War on Errorism already.

It's a seven right now, but it still has the potential to grow on me and make it up to an 8.

This album is so uneven it hurts...

Some gret songs, and some songs that just don't seem to inspire....
The overll sound is great.....a fun NOX album, but cut out soe of the fille, ad the 3 songs from the EP, and this shi woulda been classic...

I'm really not sure where I stand on this. I bought it last Saturday and listened to it three or four times in the first two days but just haven't had the urge to since then.

Score is for their live show.

good review
album,eh not so much, never trust a hippie is 100 times better

To the person asking about Maritime: I'm waiting for my copy to arrive, but I had to mailorder it, so it might be a little while longer.

Shipping to Canada is done by dogsled and a prayer it seems, so I can't promise more than that.

its good, but there's a lot of filler. i also think i'm one of the few who hated Valuum and loved Errorism

I completey agree with everything. Great review, Aubin!

i would say the album has remarkable cohesiveness, it flies by. yet too much filler. fuck that benny song. what a piece

Where's the Maritime review?

Maritime > Slayer > NOFX > Dashboard Confessional > Victory Records

score is for the review, and the band.
I agree with the fact that the album is good, but not their greatest. One hell of a live band though, that's for sure.

it takes a few listens, but it's awesome. best since 'Valuum'.

It's OK. Nothing I'd own.