Loved Dillinger. Swinging from the speakers and watching the emo kids below fleeing was awesome.

The more I realize what AFI played, the more I'm realizing I'm paying to see Dillinger... *sigh*

does afi ever play wester live??

Dear Reviewer,
Was the crowd holding hands and gently swaying back and forth during AFI's set? Because that set list is fucking weak. They pretty much ignored everything before STS. That sucks.

worst setlist ever?

damn they didn't anywhere near that much new shit in Toronto.

AFI did not play Last Kiss, Leaving Song, or This Secret Ninja either night in NYC.

Yer friend lied to ya. They didn't play those two songs.

JXS

I would believe this to be the second of the two nights AFI played NYC. A friend of mine was at both and told me the first night they played the last kiss and this secret ninja. I don't think I would mind if they played the majority of the newer material as long is they mixed the shit up. Celluloid Dream is awesome and so is Synthesthia, but in place of playing songs like that, we get stuck with the "hits" so fucking girls not grey, the leaving song 2, silver and cold, miss murder, totalimortal and (maybe days of the pheonix) take up a huge chunk of the songs where as they have much better songs they could be playing (not that those are bad, but they are just way too predicatble). That's what's annoying and if you see them on Warped Tour, that's like half thier set or so.

I would believe this to be the second of the two nights AFI played NYC. A friend of mine was at both and told me the first night they played the last kiss and this secret ninja. I don't think I would mind if they played the majority of the newer material as long is they mixed the shit up. Celluloid Dream is awesome and so is Synthesthia, but in place of playing songs like that, we get stuck with the "hits" so fucking girls not grey, the leaving song 2, silver and cold, miss murder, totalimortal and (maybe days of the pheonix) take up a huge chunk of the songs where as they have much better songs they could be playing (not that those are bad, but they are just way too predicatble). That's what's annoying and if you see them on Warped Tour, that's like half thier set or so.

maybe dillinger escape plan likes afi

"No one gives a shit about Dillinger Escape Plan. Reason? Their horrible music."
Man, I give a shit. That's why I said something, you silly goosecock. Anyway, I was kind of wondering why DEP hasn't talked shit on AFI yet. They seem to pick on every other band on earth, even/especially while touring with them, but I haven't heard so much as a peep about AFI making poop music.

afi played real sloppy the show. the show itelf was real fun though but i expected much more from afi. especially jade hu i think played horribly.

"No one gives a shit about Dillinger Escape Plan. Reason? Their horrible music."

This website alone is proof of how wrong you are. Your dislike for the band has NOTHING to do with their fanbase.

"i would have thought AFI would have opened. is Dillinger escape plan that unknown, or am i underestimating AFI's popularity?
i feel really disconnected."

No one gives a shit about Dillinger Escape Plan. Reason? Their horrible music.

"i would have thought AFI would have opened. is Dillinger escape plan that unknown, or am i underestimating AFI's popularity?
i feel really disconnected."

Haha, dude, they are (were?) #1 on the Billboard chart. Do you really think the Dixie Chicks have heard of DEP?

I really like NOY, the vocals are a bit sickly sweet and on the first track of the record he sounds like Matt Skiba but it's good honest pop with an edge.

As for AFI, I bought tickets to see them here in October since they play the UK so infrequently and I'm wondering now if I really wanna go.

Posted by HeresLookinAtYou on 2006-06-27 18:58:24
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i was at this show.
the fucking AFI fans sucked ass.
i remember hearing most of them saying
"oh man that band [Dillinger] sucked so bad"
after they finished their set.

but yea, dillinger tore it up
AFI played a pretty well rounded set
and I missed nightmare of you
the end

where there lots of jeffrey stars there?

This was the wettest show i've ever been to. when i came out of the pit i was soaking wet with my and other people's sweat. it sucked. but the AFI show was good. they were energetic and stuff. the lighting and smoke and all that looked really epic. it was fun that's for sure.

Not podcasts... I meant the KROQ Weenie Roast webcast. They sounded awful on that.

I was at this show and I thought AFI did a much better job than they were given credit for in this review. After seeing podcasts and hearing friends talk about how Davey wasn't particularly on key anymore, I was nervous but I felt as though they did an even better job than last time they hit Roseland. I would have liked a little less Sing The Sorrow and maybe more of a mix of songs

who cares about there old stuff miss murder is the best song anyway

Their real old stuff is terrible anyway, stop complaining.

funnnn showww

i really didnt mean that to be a smartass comment about sts

i guess all i am saying is that, although this set list doesnt appeal to me, i cant really blame them or hold it against them

maybe someday they will do ike alkaline trio recently did where they play sets of their back catalogue

sts is now their old stuff too, you cant expect them to ignore that album

Don't be smart, you know what I meant. I guess if that's what people want to hear, then play it. I like the new albums, I still say they should be playing a little of each album though. I mean I'm all for playing a few songs from the new one, but damn, level it out some.

sickboi,

sts is now their old stuff too, you cant expect them to ignore that album

they play more than a quarter of their material from pre sts, and more than half is from pre december, that is reasonable in my eyes. they had two wildly succesful albums since they left nitro, sts and december. it just seems like people want them to ignore those albums

I wasn't being sarcastic.

"A Single Second" is probably the only song resembling their older material I see on the set list. Shit, even "God Called in Sick Today" fits right in with how they sound now. Even when they toured for STS they were playing like 8 or so songs from the old stuff.

"I don't think I've heard them play a song off their first two albums live since '97 in the 3 times I've watched them since then so that is obviously not gonna happen anymore"

they played Perfect Fit on the last tour

After seeing that setlist I have no desire to ever see AFI live again. It would ruin my memories of them as a real punk band back in 1997 when I saw them open for Good Riddance and another headline show with Fury 66...

I think it's funny how some people will defend their favorite bands that sell out, even though it's kinda indefensible. AFI weren't really a hardcore band to begin with, it's just that, as opposed to being a pop-punk band, they now try to be an emo band. Right up there w/ Hawthorne, Thursday, etc.

This band has always been notorious for pushing newer material live as opposed to catering to fans of their older material. Granted, I haven't had a chance to catch them live since one of the Art of Drowning era tours but I'm not surprised they are starting to cut out those songs in favour of major label stuff. I don't think I've heard them play a song off their first two albums live since '97 in the 3 times I've watched them since then so that is obviously not gonna happen anymore. They are playing the Warped show I'm going to this year so I guess I can look forward to hearing maybe two older songs (Totalimmortal and God Called in). They have a lot of great songs throughout their career (newer albums included) so it sucks that they neglect their older fans like that. Imagine if Bad Religion or NOFX (not to compare the bands, just contrast their set list tendencies) would play sets that neglected their classic albums like that in favour of the newer albums. There would be an uproar.

i didnt proof read my comment below. oh well. anyway, among all thhe mistakes...

"pre sts is what? more than 6 years old"

i cant tell if sickboi's comment is sarcastic, but to him and everyone else (who i know arent being sarcastic),

if that is the set list, between 1/4 to 1/3 is from pre sts (5 of 17)

that is actually a pretty good chunck, considering pre sts is whhat?

alot of bands usually play a little less than half to half new material, and half old, which is pretty much what afi did, you hhalf to remember sts came out 3 years ago, annd people want to hear those songs too. you cant have expected half of their material come from albums written 6 or more years ago when they have two albums since then

i really do not see how people can complain about this set list realistically, unless afi were claiming thhey were gonna do something like alkaline trio recently did

you dont have to like this set list, but the "how could afi ignore their past" comments seem pretty silly

AFI's best song has to be i wanna get a mohawk(but my mom wont let me get one)

Re: AFI's popularity. decemberunderground was #1 on Billboard's album chart the week it came out (currently #3). So, yeah, I'd say they're pretty popular.

at least they still play A Single Second.. that's their greatest pre-BlackSails song

Wow, I can't believe AFI don't play any of their older stuff, that's just fucking ridiculous. Granted, you want to push your newer material, but based on the legions of diehard fans they have, i thought you'd get at least 1/4-1/3 pre-STS.

I can honestly say I would go to this show only for DEP.

So now they're basically pretending like ALL of their Nitro albums don't exist? Come on, what the fuck. I can understand not wanting to play "I wanna Mohawk" or something but there's so much good stuff to be found in thier discography. The four choices are pretty fucking weak too. "God Called In Sick Today" is probably their most overrated song.

Whatever. They're not getting any more of my money. The only reason I would've gone was to see the look on most of the kids' faces when DEP came on stage.

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 at 3:35 AM (EDT)
My Score:

Where's the Underoath review?!?!?!?!?!?!

Oh, also, "Summer Shudder" wasn't played this night, it was played for the first time ever on the second night. And it wasn't "The Leaving Song" it was "This Time Imperfect".

JXS

*Dillinger

Good show. I was one of the few in the front on both nights that enjoyed Dillinfer and that's a damn shame. The second night was far better. DIlliner was wilder, AFI's set list was better. Good times.

JXS

that is a weak fucking afi set

veggieska,

regardless of who is a better band, or hhas the better live show, if you thought afi should open for dillinger, you have been living under a rock for the last 6 to 8 years. even when black sails came out, i think they were more popular than dillinger ever has been...that may be pushing it, but for sure for the last few afi albums

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 at 1:39 AM (EDT)
My Score:

Don't care for the new album but Summer Shudder is a good song.

Also, the b-sides On the Arrow and their cover of Jack the Ripper aren't bad.

i would have thought AFI would have opened. is Dillinger escape plan that unknown, or am i underestimating AFI's popularity?
i feel really disconnected.

Posted by MikeStupid on 2006-06-27 01:06:54
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I was planning on seeing AFI next month, but if they're ignoring their older stuff this much, I think I'll pass.

Especially since tickets are fucking $20. Score is for that.