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Bad Religion: New Maps of HellNew Maps of Hell (2007)
Epitaph Records

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Since the distinguished rockers of Tenacious D received an unexpected shout-out in the liner notes of New Maps of Hell, it's only appropriate that the legendary rock of Bad Religion receive the same beaming introduction as bestowed upon the D by Paul F. Tompkins in "The Pick of Destiny": This next.
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Since the distinguished rockers of Tenacious D received an unexpected shout-out in the liner notes of New Maps of Hell, it's only appropriate that the legendary rock of Bad Religion receive the same beaming introduction as bestowed upon the D by Paul F. Tompkins in "The Pick of Destiny":

This next band asked me not to read this…but goddamnit, I'm going to read it anyway, because I wrote it, and it's the truth: I fucking love this band. They are the best band ever, PERIOD. Ladies and gentleman…
Bad Religion has done it again. With an excessive amount of members. With an ill-received single. And with twelve stylistically similar albums already under their belt. Bad Religion has redefined themselves once again with a crushing wall of sound approach incorporated into the band's legendary command of precision skatepunk.

When Bad Religion regained founding guitarist Brett Gurewitz for 2002's The Process of Belief, the resulting three-guitar attack opened new possibilities that began to reach fruition with songs like "Sinister Rouge" from 2004's The Empire Strikes First that took advantage of the five layers of instruments and opulence of background vocals. With New Maps of Hell, the songs hit hard, and at no loss of pace, but they also manufacture a sonic depth to match the epochal lyricism of Greg Graffin.

Don't let Dr. Graffin's PhD fool you -- the unrelenting assaults on hegemonic preemption, predominance of religion on society, and the glorification of a culture of war are as scathing and merciless as ever, with a delivery that bears no mark of a band 25 years into their existence. Even "Requiem for Dissent," which hilariously features God-fearing scenesters Vanna, remains untarnished, held up by Graffin's eloquently pissed contempt: "The sanctimonious minions how they grovel at the feet / Authority is populist deceit / Pity yet another casualty's demoralized decline / Just a victim of irrational design." The fuzzy, sauntering "Honest Goodbye" had many scratching their heads after falling into heavy rotation at KROQ, but it makes more sense on New Maps of Hell, sandwiched between "Before You Die" and "Dearly Beloved."

The trademark melodic skatepunk Bad Religion pioneered in Suffer hasn't lost a thing, appearing in prime form with songs like "Scrutiny" and the minute-and-25-second "Heroes and Martyrs." Slower, bouncy rhythms on "Submission Complete" and "Before You Die" allow Graffin to harness some of the catchiest hooks on the record, while the album opener "52 Seconds" sears by at Bad Religions' most ferocious.

The dedication and drive of Bad Religion, a legendary band now 27-years-old, is unmatched in nearly all of rock music. While many veteran acts are content to wallow in their glory days, rehashing tired sounds and playing the same predictable crowd-pleasers to naive fans, Bad Religion continues to challenge themselves, revamping and redefining their sound without straying into the unknown. New Maps of Hell is a perfect example, and amazingly, some of the band's finest work yet.

 

 
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wadledee12 (January 4, 2014)

Much better than The Empire Strikes First. It had some really catchy and some heavy tunes, although there were a few weak points it was great overall. Biggest problem is the production and mixing sounds like shit.

patanno (February 14, 2013)

Such an underrated album. Love it but the production sucks

Let_Yourself_Be_Heard (December 11, 2012)

One of Bad Religion's shittiest moments!

Bobby72 (November 23, 2012)

One of the Bad Religion's finest moments!

chadillac (February 11, 2010)

The greatest punk rock songwriting duo of all time stikes again! This album is on the same level as Process Of Belief. The Empire Strikes First is awesome too, but POB and NMOH are the bomb. BR just gets better the longer they go. Thanks for coming back Brett and saving BR's good name.

StandAlone (October 3, 2009)

This is a really good album, but not as good as their last release. I think they are hands down the best punk band of today.

dbug (February 23, 2009)

Yeah, I'll admit that this album isn't my personal favorite, there are other albums that have a better collection of kick ass tunes to one album like No Control, Process, or Empire but you can't be pissed because it's no different. This is the same sound they've had for 20 years. After that long you can't expect it to change that much. It's just good to hear a fresh new song list and hear that BR is still Rockin!!!

Alien (April 21, 2008)

"Firstly, I'm a hug bad reoligion fan and have been since I first heard them in the early ninties.

But how can this be the best punk album in the last 15 years when it's not even THEIR best? Suffer, Against the Grain, Generator anyone? And what about *gasp* other bands!!" "

hahahahha
you know your stuff.

tmfxjohn (April 20, 2008)

probably my least favorite bad religion album. i can't stand the production on this record.

royalt (December 21, 2007)

"Posted by TardytotheParty on 2007-07-12 13:20:57
My Score:

Firstly, I'm a hug bad reoligion fan and have been since I first heard them in the early ninties.

But how can this be the best punk album in the last 15 years when it's not even THEIR best? Suffer, Against the Grain, Generator anyone? And what about *gasp* other bands!!"

You would think that such a hug bad reoligion fan would know that those three albums came out 15 years ago or more.

Anywho, this album is fuckin' good. Deal with it.

Mafiachick1313 (September 10, 2007)

This album's pretty kick ass, fast and very punk

clamum (August 30, 2007)

"It sounds like everything else they've done."

Yeah it's fast catchy punk rock, and it kicks ass.

thomas7155 (August 28, 2007)

this album is awesome!! love every song. except maybe the more boring rock numbers near the end.

nameless (August 9, 2007)

This is a decent album at best. It sounds like everything else they've done. There's nothing new or extraordinary; it's just decent. Personally, I think New Wavew beats it by a mile.

Anonymous (August 2, 2007)

Good review, but there's one thing that bugs me: Brett writes the lyrics too. You seem to only be giving credit to one songwriter/lyricist.

Windfall (July 28, 2007)

After The Empire and Process, this album just seems so bland and boring.

Anonymous (July 18, 2007)

yawn! can i have an order of the usual

Albert_Belle (July 17, 2007)

This is the best punk band...ever.

baseball (July 17, 2007)

love this album, better than Empire but not quite as good as Process

yeah Bad Religion obviously haven't made drastic changes in musicianship but they always keep things interesting lyrically and this album is no exception

it seems like a lot of people are overlooking that...."Prodigal Son" and "Submission Complete" are a couple of my favorite tracks lyrically that they've written since Brett came back

"Fields of Mars" and "New Dark Ages" are fantastic tracks as well

Anonymous (July 17, 2007)

score is for NOFX

Anonymous (July 17, 2007)

dull

Anonymous (July 17, 2007)

god isn't this typical they don't need to release an album to have good reviews. it's like a band for the cool punk kids. i like bad religion but nothing pasted gray race after that repeats. i'll still give it a listen and maybe change my opinion about their recent efforts but def not going for the bad religion trend

Scruffy (July 16, 2007)

" even a fan of this band has to realize that they've changed absolutely nothing in their sound since, "the New America."

Actually give me an honest, intelligent explanation as to how "Whisper In Time", or anything on New America sounds like "52 Seconds", and I might agree.

maverick (July 16, 2007)

Whoops: Meant "Germs Of Perfection," not "Germs And Perfection." My bad.

-Scott

maverick (July 16, 2007)

I listened to this all weekend and feel like I can properly critique it now. It's definitely a fast-paced, enjoyable listen and the great songs are REALLY great, but there's a good chunk in the album's second half that just glide by (tracks 13-15 especially).

"Fields Of Mars" is epic. Probably my favorite track, followed by "Germs And Perfection" and "New Dark Ages." Thank god that Bobby Schayer got tendonitis (I'm an asshole; I know), because Brooks Wackerman makes this band so much better musically than they ever were in the '90s.

Not in my top 3 (which, since you asked, are Stranger Than Fiction/Process Of Belief/Generator), but it's solid.

-Scott

Anonymous (July 15, 2007)

" even a fan of this band has to realize that they've changed absolutely nothing in their sound since, "the New America."

So what? When they first tried changing their sound, they lost all of their fans (see "into the unknown"). Then, almost 15 years later, they tried it again and came up with their 2nd least popular album (see "no substance"). Now, Bad Religion creates music their fans enjoy (what's so wrong about that?) and leave "branching out" for their solo projects (see "cold as the clay, daredevils, black president, etc)

misterspike (July 14, 2007)

So Mr. Brett's grand return affects the Production. Gotcha. If I want to know about "Wall(s) of Sound" I'll check out some Phil Spector.

Good record, but not in the BR top three, in my opinion (as so many are falling over themselves claiming on here). New Wave has gotten more plays from me (*GASP*!). Score is for the record and Greg Graffin bringing his webcam on tour and Broadcastin' Live!

Almosttragichero (July 12, 2007)

misterspike- "wall of sound" is how this album was promoted. if u listen on headphones it's a thicker, deeper sound than before.

Anonymous (July 12, 2007)

Fantastic. One of the best BR albums ever.

misterspike (July 12, 2007)

When Bad Religion regained founding guitarist Brett Gurewitz for 2002's The Process of Belief, the resulting three-guitar attack opened new possibilities that began to reach fruition with songs like "Sinister Rouge" from 2004's The Empire Strikes First that took advantage of the five layers of instruments and opulence of background vocals.

Yes, I'm picking nits, but what does Gurewitz really have to do with BR's sound other than the songwriting? Bands routinely record several guitar tracks over one another on their albums. And while I've seen BR five times since '02, not once have I seen Mr. Brett play live with them.

Anonymous (July 12, 2007)

@strewtho: I love Lost Pilgrim, but am less fond of "Murder". It's growing on me rather quickly, however.

whatchokesbegin (July 12, 2007)

This album is good as the new Against Me! is bad. I guess that means New Wave gets a 3.

-Strewtho- (July 12, 2007)

Just a question to those who think theres filler on this album, which songs do you consider filler?
The only one I'm not too into is Lost Pilgrim

BrandonSideleau (July 12, 2007)

I do consider this to be one of the best and most consistent albums of the last decade.....so YES.....by all means this is within the top 3 Bad Religion albums.

Anonymous (July 12, 2007)

"Posted by TardytotheParty on 2007-07-12 13:20:57
My Score:

Firstly, I'm a hug bad reoligion fan and have been since I first heard them in the early ninties.

But how can this be the best punk album in the last 15 years when it's not even THEIR best? Suffer, Against the Grain, Generator anyone? And what about *gasp* other bands!!

Phenominal album, but get some perspective fanboys."

Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe, just maybe, there are people who like this a lot more than you do? And who might potentially like this better than Bad Religion's other albums? I am not a "BR fanboy". I just really like this album.

Anonymous (July 12, 2007)

So good.

Anonymous (July 12, 2007)

Dude, this is the worst bad religion shit i've heard, respectable that they made another album and tour, but it sucks.

TardytotheParty (July 12, 2007)

and yes I am a "hug" BR fan.

damnit...

TardytotheParty (July 12, 2007)

Firstly, I'm a hug bad reoligion fan and have been since I first heard them in the early ninties.

But how can this be the best punk album in the last 15 years when it's not even THEIR best? Suffer, Against the Grain, Generator anyone? And what about *gasp* other bands!!

Phenominal album, but get some perspective fanboys.

Anonymous (July 12, 2007)

saw bad religion on the day this came out. they did not disappoint. and it was FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE muhahahahaha

damnitsderek (July 12, 2007)

Let me try that again:

Bad Religion > Eddie Murphy's solo career > Against Me!

Put a telephone in your butt!

damnitsderek (July 12, 2007)

Bad Religion > Eddie Murphy's solo career > Against Me!

Put a telephone in your butt!

Anonymous (July 12, 2007)

Not only is it my favorite BR album (and to-date, I couldn't decide on one at all), I would argue that it is easily on of the best punk rock album of the last 15 years. It's brutal and intense, poingiant and intelligent. Begining to end, this album is astounding.

Not-To-Regret (July 12, 2007)

BR rocks hard at times and I respect them a lot but once a friend heard me listening to some BR (sorrow?) and said it sounded like Great Big Sea... fellow Canadians I'm sure you can understand how unsettling that is. That about sums up my thoughts on BR.

nocontrol (July 12, 2007)

Prodigal Son's chorus is out of this world!

Jon_the_Skafather (July 11, 2007)

"Don't let Dr. Graffin's PhD fool you "

smart people can be cool too!!!

oh wait...bad religion was always about smart, insightful lyrics. flat earth society, anyone? it's not just a clever name, people.

also: like i said earlier(when i was posting from work); this album sounds just like process of belief which sounds just like stranger than fiction.....which is stale by this point. their best was no control and against the grain. they had solid releases with brett after those albums but this last one sucks.

FuckYouOiOiOi (July 11, 2007)

Best Bad Religion records:
1. No Control/Against the Grain
2. Suffer/Process of Belief
3. New Maps of Hell/Recipe For Hate

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

Wow.... ties the Nightwatchman for release of the year, simply outstanding. There is not a weak song on the CD, it flows from track to track superbly. I had some misgivings about it before it was released, especially with Honest Goodbye, but in the context of the album the song is fantastic. Lyrically Graffin does it again, truly some of the best lyrics (if not hands down that best) being written now period.

BrandonSideleau (July 11, 2007)

This is easily the best Bad Religion release out of the 3 recent Epitaph albums.....I liked TESF alot but I thought it lost some steam towards the end (although the last track is cool) and TPOB was great but I don't think it can hold up to the brilliance of New Maps Of Hell. This album is easily up there with Suffer, No Control and Against The Grain.....an equal to those (if not better) in my opinion. There isn't a single song on this record that I don't love.

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

I don't know what it is about this album. More than any other release I've witnessed in a long time, there is an enormous discrepancy in the response from listeners. I think it's one of the best punk albums of the decade, whereas people, long time Bad Religion fans included, think it's garbage. I guess it's just one of those albums. I'm not going to be angry with anyone for disliking this album, but I'm still surprised by some of the negative things I've heard said about it.

Since everyone else is comparing the two, I would just like to say that I really like New Wave as well. But, I prefer New Maps of Hell by a fair bit.

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

Great, dark album, and the new Gogol Bordello is fantastic as well.

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

THIS got a better review than the new Against Me! ?

Granted, New Wave isn't spectacular, but it's a grower.

New Maps of Hell just blows.

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

This album is better than great.

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

"so if 1/2 of 1 band "rocked this hard" we'd be in a better place?"

There is only 1 "new" band?? Try to keep up...

Score for your reading skills.

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

This is much better than The Empire Strikes First...that album was so bland I could never get through it in one listen.

Although, New Maps of Hell is pretty solid, its still far from Bad Religions best effort. Its a bit long for my tastes, and they should have cut at least two tracks.

notatfault (July 11, 2007)

Not as good as Process of Belief but a close second. Kick ass!

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

Anybody know the story behind "Lost Pilgrim". One of Bad Religion's top friends is this "Pilgrim" whose heroes include Donald Rumsfeld and John McCain: http://www.myspace.com/pilgrimdoss

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

overrated.

elephantdwarf (July 11, 2007)

"If half as many new, young, fresh bands rocked this hard we'd all be in a better place."

so if 1/2 of 1 band "rocked this hard" we'd be in a better place?

iconoclast (July 11, 2007)

fucking incredible album. im so stoked about it.

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

"Against the Grain 10/10, No Control 10/10, Suffer 9.5/10, TPOB 9.5/10, Generator 9.5/10, New Maps 9/10, TESF 9/10, Stranger than Fiction 9/10, Recipe For Hate 9/10, The Gray Race 8/10, HCHBAW 8/10, New America 6.5/10, No Substance 6/10 and Into the Unknown 5/10

New Wave 5/10"

The post to end all posts.

Not BR's finest, but a great addition to their library. If half as many new, young, fresh bands rocked this hard we'd all be in a better place.

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

This just might be their best album yet. Hard to tell at such an early stage.

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

give it up greg. your old.

Problematiclogic (July 11, 2007)

Amazing, this band just never stops.

It's very solid as an album as a whole, unlike Empires which for me, had some amazing tracks and some really weak tracks.

I think this one is really gonna stand the test of time. The best band in punk does it again.

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

insane!

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

""Why the fuck are some of these people hating on BR! The album's great."

because some people have taste"

this doesnt make any sense at all.

joeg (July 11, 2007)

who said punk rock was about individuality and thinking for yourself? certainly not bad religion superfans posting on punknews! oh the fucking irony.

elephantdwarf (July 11, 2007)

"Why the fuck are some of these people hating on BR! The album's great."

because some people have taste......... and personal opinions.

Anonymous (July 11, 2007)

Why the fuck are some of these people hating on BR! The album's great.

Phantom_Maggot (July 11, 2007)

Much better than I expected. I was not going to buy the album until I read all of the positive feedback. I wasn't really a big fan of "The Empire Strikes First" and had kind of stopped caring, because in my opinion, that album lacked energy. Still, I am not going to say this is one of their finest works, bu this is a solid Bad Religion album which is more than I ever expected.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

Anyone who doesn't like this is a poo poo head!

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

The first band I liked in my life is still great. This band is for me the only reason to listen to Music. Bad Religion is the best Punk-Rock (More talented than punk-rock bands, it's not really punk-rock anymore.) band ever... Musically it depends on your tastes, but lyrically, it's the best.

Hell Yeah Bad Religion

F**k Haters, go listen to your Fall Out Boy.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

Fuckin Excellent!! Good fuckin job guys, I can't wait for the club tour in the fall!

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

Against the Grain 10/10, No Control 10/10, Suffer 9.5/10, TPOB 9.5/10, Generator 9.5/10, New Maps 9/10, TESF 9/10, Stranger than Fiction 9/10, Recipe For Hate 9/10, The Gray Race 8/10, HCHBAW 8/10, New America 6.5/10, No Substance 6/10 and Into the Unknown 5/10

New Wave 5/10

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

"god you guys are fucking pitiful. bad religion releases a shit release and you still worship it."

How shallow are you? Big deal, you don't enjoy it. I think it's one of the better albums of the decade, personally. But then again, you have "ska" in your name, so I don't think I could go by anything you say with regards to music anyway.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

bad religion is my favorite band, but i am not one to be blinded by their glory. they've put out some pretty mediocre albums in the past, but this one is just awesome. there is no filler in here. they put a lot into each song and it makes a great album. great job guys.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

Greg Graffin's oft-mentioned doctorate does not save his band from boring the living shit out of me.

-Ken

Jon_the_Skafather (July 10, 2007)

god you guys are fucking pitiful. bad religion releases a shit release and you still worship it.

clamum (July 10, 2007)

Great fucking album. Guys are in their 40s and rocking harder and better than most of the bullshit out today.

Requiem for Dissent, Before You Die, Dearly Beloved, Grains of Wrath... fuck, the whole album is great.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

This album is really great.

I am going to say that bad religion is and has been so influential to so many bands in the punk scene that they don't need to "reinvent" themselves.

They just write great solid songs. They don't water down their sound. And they've released 3 times the amount of great CDs that 90 percent of other bands, mainstream, punk, or whatever will release.

The harmonies are huge, and the lyrics are interesting. Thats what bad religion does well and they didn't stop with it.Thats the important point.

Any reasonable person could'nt have expected a new suffer/ against the grain/ no control... its just not possible there not young anymore, they don't write that way and this isn't 1987-1993.
And about against me, they didn't try something new. In fact, that CD just is mediocre at best.

BrandonSideleau (July 10, 2007)

Some of you people must be smoking crack......this album is amazing.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

"4.5/5? Haha, let's get realistic here. There were maybe 2 good songs, the rest subpar at best. Only this site would give this album a near perfect score. That's like Rolling Stone giving anyone their friends with good reviews"

read the comments, dumbass. bad religion is one of the best punk bands of all time, why would you expect a site called punknews not to like it? fucking moron.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

Nice "Into the unknown" pun.

FatTony (July 10, 2007)

Snooze. Then again, I've never been a big BR fan. Each album seems to have 1-2 great songs and the rest are mediocre at best.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

4.5/5? Haha, let's get realistic here. There were maybe 2 good songs, the rest subpar at best. Only this site would give this album a near perfect score. That's like Rolling Stone giving anyone their friends with good reviews.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

whoa this is like every bad religion album in one!!!!new dark ages kicks some god damn ass!

KungPowza (July 10, 2007)

Good album, but it doesn't seem to be quite as good to me as their last few albums. I'll probably end up liking it when I listen to it a bit more.

branden (July 10, 2007)

this album is approved. very good.

nocontrol (July 10, 2007)

sweet mother of god, this album is amazing!

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

Holy fried arseholes, this is amazing! The only song I'm not really floored by is "Murder". Everything else is stunning.

655321 (July 10, 2007)

Great BR release!!! I don't understand how anyone can't like this album. unless of coarse, you don't like bad religion - in which case why would you dicide to listen to this album?

BR hasn't really changed their sound in the 27 years that they've been making music (except for maybe into the unknow - but hey, they returned). So why would they change now?

If you like BR then you will like this album. If you don't like BR then build your bridge............get over it.

joeg (July 10, 2007)

there's some fantastic songs here (New Dark Ages, Grains of Wrath, Scrutiny, Heroes and Martyrs) but there's a lot of ho-hum been there, done that. hardly redefining or reinventing. enjoyable? catchy? sure. it's standard bad religion. it's hard for me to not find at least something i like about each song and i'm liking it more and more since the first time i heard it. but it seems like they're running out of ideas and riffs. this isn't a landmark record by a longshot. it doesn't have the longevity of a no control, against the grain, or even a process of belief, simple as that.

Not-To-Regret (July 10, 2007)

This is a good album but I think Glasspipemurder is way too generous in handing out stars. Start looking beyond punk and ska music (or at least reviewing more random albums) and maybe you'll see that in the context of music as a whole, that some of these albums you praise don't deserve so many stars. I'm not calling 'pipe out, I'm just saying review these albums as if you're not into punk at all, be more objective, like the Against Me review, its not about the bullshit, its about the substance of the music.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

not as polished as TESF, but raw and a great cut through all their albums, a lot of riffs that remind people of older albums, even from no substance. having finished this "homage" and looking back , i cant wait for their next album.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

Their best album since well Process of Belief. What's funny is I am hearing prise for their last album "Empire Strikes First" which i thought to be a huge step back following Process of Belief.

CatNamedVirtue (July 10, 2007)

I've heard the leak, and it sounds like your standard Bad Religion album. Nothing more, nothing less.

But... if you like Bad Religion, you'll be happy; which I do, so I guess I'm content.

panicbxmb (July 10, 2007)

3 good albums in a row. bad religion are definitely back in their prime. I haven't liked them this much since i bought Suffer :)

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

This record seems to be getting crap just because it was released on the same day as the orgcore band Against Me's new record.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

The one thing that has always drawn me to this band is Greg Graffin's ablility to rip apart modern society song after song. He is probably the most politicaly aware song writer of today. While the comments that state "the sound has never changed since the late 80's" are partially true, they never dumb down the lyrics, which are their strength. And the guitar solos on here aren't bad either. Best album of theirs since "Generator" in my opiinion.

And the new Against Me! record is tight. So their not a punk band anymore, who fucking cares. It's very solid rock n roll... punk is dead anyway.

yayforapathy

BrandonSideleau (July 10, 2007)

This is a landmark album from one of the greatest bands of all time.....plain and simple. Every song is great and 90% of them rank up with Bad Religion's all time best. I cannot think of how this album could have been any better.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

this album isn't any good. it's like a rehash of process of belief which was a rehash of stranger than fiction and this time around, it's stale. with process, it was refreshing to hear that sound that was lost when brett left the band. this time around, it just sounds like they gave up on writing and just re-hashed the same songs. i'd much rather the broadness of the empire strikes first over this rotted, stale piece of shit.

bad religion: you can do better.

bad religion fans: you should expect better.

pn.org: at least you didn't suck against me's dick as well.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

Everything the new Against Me! should have been.

Scott is not stoked!

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

garbage. fuck this band.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

great record. maybe a little exagerated review, but everyone's entitled to an opinion

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

Goddammit...bad religion could all take a collective shit, put it on a plate and release it and it would garner 4 or 5 stars at this site...then shoot to a week later when the songs have already grown stale and everyone hates them again.

Let me go ahead and clarify, this record is shit.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

"where a band like against me! tries something new..."

what exactly did they try new? sounds just like the last fucking album but much worse and on a major label budget. score is for bad religion not singing about music..what a dumb idea.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

bad religion is still amazing.

possible record fo the year.

capitalist_pig (July 10, 2007)

I've listened to most of the album now, and while it's a good punk album, it's nothing groundbreaking. If you like Bad Religion's last couple albums, you'll like this one. I enjoy the album but a 9 seems a bit high for it.

booker_pee (July 10, 2007)

woops, wasn't logged in.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

after listening to this i have no choice but to agree with scott: i have no idea what is wrong with you people.

other comments talk about how the "evolution" of this band is so exciting and that makes absolutely no sense. even a fan of this band has to realize that they've changed absolutely nothing in their sound since, "the New America." and the only change that came after that record was to go back to making records that sound exactly like the albums before that, only maybe make some of the songs shorter.

i guess it goes to show how backwards the majority of us are; a band that sounds exactly the same for the better part of twenty straight years is continually lauded as the top of the heap...where a band like against me! that tries new things (and yes, sometimes fails) becomes the pariah.

and for the record, "wall of sound" doesn't refer to turning up the guitars until they sound burnt. this is not "wall of sound" production.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

hahahah love the Pick of Destiny reference at the beginning. that guy is hilarious.

WainscottRockCity (July 10, 2007)

Did someone reverse the scores of this and New Wave? Because I could have sworn that album was awesome and this album was a rehashed mess of poorly written versions of old songs.

JerryCola (July 10, 2007)

I've listened to this album non-stop since it has leaked and I'm planning to go to the store and buy this CD very soon...

...but one thing that does irk me a bit about this album and their past few albums is that they aren't really trying to create any new riffs or chord sequences. A lot of these songs are starting to sound like previous Bad Religion songs and it kind of bothers me because they work so hard on everything else like the lyrics, the melodies and the production. I think it maybe Greg & Brett should let Baker & Hetson in more on the music writing process to get more variety in.

Despite my criticism, I really have to say that this album is my favorite so far since Brett rejoined the group. New Dark Ages and Dearly Beloved are my favorite tracks. The only song I don't really enjoy is Submission Complete. Other than that one song, I can listen to this album from start to finish.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

not the best bad religion album but still SOOO GOOOD!!!

the continuing evolution of the band's sound is what does it, first 7 tracks right in a row are probably the best lineup for opening an album they've ever had.

love it

Dante3000 (July 10, 2007)

I can't believe Against Me! got two stars and this got four and a half.
And I can't believe it's not butter.
-Dante

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

SO so so damn good
-Janelle

danperrone (July 10, 2007)

seriously? a nine?

Albert_Belle (July 10, 2007)

Bad Religion > Eddie Murphy's solo career > Against Me!

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

I can't believe that this ONLY got 4 1/2 stars either Scotty!

poonk (July 10, 2007)

Very good album – way better than The Empire Strikes First (and also way better than against me, but that's obvious.)

maverick (July 10, 2007)

I can't believe Against Me! got two stars and this got four and a half.

-Scott

LeightonESmith (July 10, 2007)

There's only two songs on this I don't love.
Definately going to be in my top 10 for 2007. Classic.

Thanks BR! :-)

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

Awesome

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

absolutely awesome. been listening to it no stop since it leaked and it just gets better and better.... this is vastly superior to the last record and on par with process of belief.
definitely in their top 4 albums, which is an amazing feat considering the quality of the 3 above it.
finally, probably the first record since the gray race without a skippable track.

alexwank

booker_pee (July 10, 2007)

i like learning big words from bad religion, but i haven't been the least bit interested in hearing new music from them since "the grey race" (with the exception of the big non-comeback that was "process of belief").

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

I've liked all the Post-"Process" records as a whole better than the old BR records. Sure, the old ones have better songs, but they make better RECORDS now.

Hope this one keeps up the momentum that Process and Empire brought back to the band.

PS. Where's the new Reel Big Fish record review?

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

at first i was thinking this was just ok. after having it a few weeks, i think it may be in the top 5 albums of theirs.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

"Album reviews, while articulate, are getting a little predictable GlassPipe"

Is he supposed to start giving good albums bad scores like the Against Me review?

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

More like Brad Religion. The rebel frat boys like to drop this band name in between The Used and Dylan.

stevejonestherealbones (July 10, 2007)

arent there supposed to be blackhawks on there somewhere?
--jones the bones

- steveehenene

Almosttragichero (July 10, 2007)

it is pretty dang amazing Bad Religion can be this good after 25 years...not too many early 80's bands still have i t.

GlassPipeMurder (July 10, 2007)

predictable in what way?

passionisafashion (July 10, 2007)

Album reviews, while articulate, are getting a little predictable GlassPipe

elephantdwarf (July 10, 2007)

"elephantdwarf has the shittiest taste out of any 'org poster. score is for bad religion."

if this rehashed bullshit is considered good taste on the 'org than i'll take that as a compliment.

besides lawrence arms/broadways are pretty much in my favorite 5. and the 'orgers love that shit. i think i have impeccably good taste in music, but whatever, musical taste is just an opinion anyways.

Torgo (July 10, 2007)

I'll download this album just so I know the new shit when I see them at Warped.

defianceohioequalslove (July 10, 2007)

Holy shit this is an amazing cd. And yeah, I'm going to have to agree with the few people and say that this is one of my favorite BR cds ever.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

elephantdwarf has the shittiest taste out of any 'org poster. score is for bad religion.

elephantdwarf (July 10, 2007)

see score.

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

Very good album, but far from being the most precious jewl in their crown

coldwaffles (July 10, 2007)

there is no problem with this record.

BrandonSideleau (July 10, 2007)

I fucking love this record....and although I am bound to be attacked for saying this......but this is my favorite Bad Religion album. I've been listening to it almost non-stop for 3 weeks now and it never has a dull moment.....it features all of their strengths and none of their weaknesses. Bravo indeed!

FuckYouOiOiOi (July 10, 2007)

I know it leaked, I know they streamed it, but I'll be damned if I hear this album without the cd booklet in front of me.

Can't fuckin wait to get this, score is for the band.

sickboi (July 10, 2007)

Bad Religion and Black Flag were the two bands that got me into punk. This is a good album, but too much filler. The track sequencing is also a tad bizarre. If they had cut it to say, 11 or 12 songs it would be a very solid album.

-chris

nocontrol (July 10, 2007)

just from listening to it all the way through once i can tell this album is epic. Bad Religion has done it again, and have proven why they are the best punk band ever.

Ollywood (July 10, 2007)

Great Album, I really didn't want to enjoy it as much as I do
Favorite song: Dearly beloved
When I hear Grains of Wrath "I don't wanna be" i can't help but sing "E-M-P-I-R-E" the chorus also reminds me of Tiny Voices.
"Honest Goodbye" reminded me off that Cher song. It reminds my friends of Weezer.

-Strewtho- (July 10, 2007)

Easily one of their best. Good job on the review.

ozmanx (July 10, 2007)

I'm not really a BR fan but I can't stop listening to this record.

kingofsuck (July 10, 2007)

Yeah, because Bad Religion has never put out any bad albums/EPs...

Anonymous (July 10, 2007)

I like both CDs, but it's kind of sad/amazing that Bad Religion can create one of their best CDs, after 12 full lengths, while Against Me! can't even make one of their best after 3 CDs.

How can a band of 40 year olds be on the rise while a band with 4 CDs is on a steep decline?

Score is for New Maps of Hell.

Albert_Belle (July 10, 2007)

I love what I've heard, and it's only gonna grow on me even more.

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