Before heading out on a US tour soon with Into It. Over It. and A Great Big Pile of Leaves, Punknews interviewer Xan Mandell caught up with Greg Horbal of The World Is A Beautiful Place And I Am No Longer Afraid To Die to try and dissect the difficulties of being in a band with eight people, as well as talk about the new music they're writing.
During the discussion, Horbal said in regards to being one of the hype bands for the emo revival, "It's not even really worrying, we're kind of waiting for it to end."
It was a small, but very important statement. When a new wave of music comes around, a band that is at the forefront of it usually soaks it in, trying as hard as they can to ride it and stay at the top of their game, but not The World Is A Beautiful Place And I Am No Longer Afraid To Die. No, they're not in it to win it. They're in it for the pure joy of expressing themselves and enjoying doing so with strangers in sweaty venues. The honesty of their music doesn't just come out of headphones or speakers; it comes out of them, as human beings.
Was there a conscious effort to have that many people in the band?
It has been building to as many people as we have now for about two years. When I first joined the band, in 2011, we were a five piece. The first lineup of the band was a four-piece. Our third guitar player, Chris Teti, heâs been on all of our tours and was driving us all the time and the discussion finally came where it was like, "Fuck it, you can just be in the band, three guitarists is pretty cool." That happened right after we finished recording our split with Deer Leep. The LP itself is mostly written as a six piece. Our old singer Tom was originally playing both keyboard and singing and when he left, it was like, letâs just get a separate keyboard player. Derek started singing a little bit, then out of no where, Julia, our cello player, started recording with us, and we were like, "Oh you can play whatever shows you want. Youâre in the band!" So thatâs where we are right now. Weâre planning on having shows where weâre a 15-person band, with some horn and string sections, and maybe a second drummer. Itâs all about making a loud show.
Would you want to write for a 15-piece band?
Weâre not trying to write for one; weâre just trying to play as one sooner or later.
I just mean very heavily layered tracks with a lot of different elements to them in the studio.
Exactly, yeah, the plan is to go above and beyond with that from here on out, and experimenting with stuff that isnât in our live show. Everything is open right now. We just started writing again, so itâs going to be a while until we have a clear vision of what we want to do.
Youâre going on the road soon, is that going to interrupt the writing process at all?
Oh yeah. It is going to be real frustrating. Once weâre done with our European and US tour weâre going to not be on the road for a while and weâll be focused on writing.
Then why start writing now?
When we practice weâve already played all the songs weâre going to play live a million times. So weâre like, "Ok, letâs do this." There is always an excitement with starting something new. Weâve been writing since Whenever, If Ever was done. We have a lot of older songs and ideas that just never got off the ground around when Whenever, If Ever was done that we were like, "Hey, this is good, but this does not fit with the idea of this record," so they were shelved.
Do you have an idea as to when youâll be back in the studio?
No idea. That is a long time off, but Iâm hoping maybe fall of next year.
So a pretty long while then?
Yeah, the thing is too, weâre not going force ourselves to record if weâre not happy with what weâre making.
For the writing process, kind of everyone for themselves and then bring it together, or is there a skeleton that you build from?
With Whenever, If Ever and lately itâs been like, "I have this one idea, let's expand upon this," and there are maybe one or two exceptions to that rule, but for the most part it's everyone jamming it out, and we got the songs to where weâre all happy with it. The vocal process is done collectively as well. Then weâll demo out the song instrumentally and then record demos of vocals on top until weâre all happy with whatâs happening.
What does having eight people in the band do for the writing process?
We demo after almost every practice we have, so weâll all go back and listen and be like, "I know the flow of this," and itâs easier to hear everything thatâs going on, and from there we talk about what we want to change, then every once and a while a person -- sometimes itâs hard for everyone to show up, so we have that to show them what happened. But you know, in terms of writing, it always changes. I wouldnât say there is a set way that we do anything. Right now, weâre in the studio, kind of working on a collaboration with a friend and we didnât write or practice anything before we got into the studio, we just thought, "Let's try to experiment this a bunch," which has been a pretty interesting process. So, itâs all about just keeping a mind and trying a lot of different things.
Youâre music is pretty atmospheric and spacy. What steps do you have to take to transfer that to a live setting?
A lot of the live stuff that we do, including the interludes between songs, we donât practice that, it develops over a long period of time of live shows and getting comfortable with transitions. Sometimes youâll see us and between a song youâd think, "Ok, this transition is badâ¦" Thatâs because we were writing it then. Itâs funny where there are some songs where we know exactly what to do all the time, and there are some songs where you have no idea what is going on. You work through it though. That side of the live show is fun, because you donât know what is going to happen, so weâre trying new things all the time.
Is there a question of what key youâre going to do it in?
I donât even remember. Between some of those songs there is a long tuning break, and it is not getting there yet. We get it sometimes, sometimes we donât.
Are you excited to be playing what I imagine will be big shows on your upcoming tour with Into It. Over It.?
It should be good. My old band, My Heart To Joy, played with Evan and Into It. Over It. early on, so itâll be good to be doing this again with him. Iâve known him a long time, so it is exciting.
Iâm sure youâve heard the term "Emo Revivial" at this pointâ¦ Itâs funny to me, because it reminds me of three years ago, when pop punk became this whole big thing again and then simmered off. As a band at the forefront of the revival, do you worry about the trend fading?
Itâs not even really worrying, weâre kind of waiting for it to end. We will continue doing what we do whether Pitchfork is talking about us or not. I donât give a shit. So itâs cool that it is happening right now, but Iâm not planning on it to be here by the time our next record comes out. The crowd may be gone by then, but you expect the best and we will continue to put out as good of material as we are capable of, so I donât really give a shit.
But itâs gotta be kind of nice to get all those mentions around the Internet?
No one is complaining about it for sure, but you have to be ready for the moment those people wont be there.
I think thatâs all Iâve got for questions right now. What about this for an ending question thoughâ¦ What is a release youâve really dug from 2013?
There is this band, Special Explosion. We played with them, and Iâve never been so blown away by a band in my entire life. Their album is on Bandcamp for free download by Topshelf Records. I highly suggest checking that out.